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DO CASINOS TIGHTEN UP AFTER A CASH IN ?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by wayram, Dec 15, 2005.

    Dec 15, 2005
  1. wayram

    wayram Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    sales
    Location:
    Australia
    Had a 2000 cash in at Roadhouse and since then have got absolutely Jack sh----!!..I have noticed before once you cash in they tighten so that nothing pays and if you get the free spins, again they pay very poor...My wife and I both have a computer each, and separate accounts and she seems to still get drops with hers but she has not had a payout....Does anyone else find that they tighten after a pay out and how long do they stay tight.????
     
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  2. Dec 15, 2005
  3. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

    Location:
    Haverhill
    Confirmation bias ...
     
  4. Dec 15, 2005
  5. lydia

    lydia Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Administrative
    Location:
    Europe
    It happens all the time to me in 90% casinos that I play, even in reputable casinos (nice exception is Harrods). After payout I usually don't win anything until my deposits are equal or more than my win. :cool:
     
  6. Dec 15, 2005
  7. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    LOL. Same here but with good reason i think. I tend to cash out after a winning streak. Note i say "after" - by this time i have detected a downward turn. Therefore its kinda logical that i'm not finished on this downward turn as i just cashed out, so it will continue next time. Usually - not always :)

    Or a more mathematical way of looking at it:

    House Edge = 5%
    Simmo! deposits $1,000
    Wins $3,000
    Cashes out $2,000
    Loses $1,000
    Goes on a date.
    Comes back. ( next day :p )
    Deposits $2,000
    Loses $2,050
    ---------------------------------------
    Total Loss = $50
    House Edge on Initial Deposit = 5%
    Expected Loss $50
    ---------------------------------------
    Dumps date claiming financial irregularities.
    ("Its not you, it's me...")

    Starts over.
     
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  8. Dec 15, 2005
  9. liquidsoap

    liquidsoap Dormant account

    Occupation:
    my self
    Location:
    home


    :lolup: :lolup:
     
  10. Dec 15, 2005
  11. gfkostas

    gfkostas Ex-Bonus Whore

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    UK
    :lolup: Nice one
     
  12. Dec 16, 2005
  13. phynqster

    phynqster Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Manager
    Location:
    los angeles, ca
    In the RTG casino I oversaw their was no way of customizing the casino for one player. What we would do on a more consistent winner was to flag them and give them smaller bonuses. As for the software went it had no idea if you were winning or losing. Anything more than that is a case for the X-Files.
     
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  14. Dec 16, 2005
  15. Slotmachine

    Slotmachine Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Management
    Location:
    US
    NB!!!

    It makes sense, seems likely to be true, and now there's an ex casino manager (apparently) confirming it. Thanks for posting this.

    I like the way you put it: The software has no idea if you're winning or losing.

    i.e. no Win Switch (or rather, Lose Switch...) guys! (Even in RTG):thumbsup:

    Cheers,
    SM
     
  16. Dec 16, 2005
  17. paul02085

    paul02085 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Mgmt
    Location:
    USA
    But the RTG casinos can change the payout % for all slot machines (just not individual ones).

    Thx for the info phynqster.
     
  18. Dec 17, 2005
  19. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    General tweak

    I think it's true that if a casino pays out rather more than it would like, it tends to recover profit by having tighter promotions the next time round. I have certainly noticed this at Spin Palace, where it looks like the profit from the previous month determines how tight or loose the new promotions will be.
    Currently, WR on bonuses has crept up to 15x from 12x a couple of months ago, and Blackjack is weighted at 10% rather than 20%. This WR "inflation" rarely goes back the other way:mad:
     
  20. Dec 17, 2005
  21. tombomb

    tombomb Dormant account

    Location:
    right here
    unreal!

    The fact that you cashed out $2k at roadhouse is unbelievable.That place sucked up my $500 in about 45 minutes.Their on my list of casinos that suck royal.Now watch all the paid puppets sound off.
     
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  22. Dec 18, 2005
  23. wayram

    wayram Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    sales
    Location:
    Australia
    I must admit since the cash in it has been really tight but prior to this the casino games paid pretty consistantly..Its also good with the combo match up bonus as it certainly gives extra spins, and if your'e lucky will give a good run for your money..I cant relly comlain as I am way out in front, i'm just waiting for them to start payng again..I find this casino okay.:thumbsup:
     
  24. Dec 18, 2005
  25. Johnny Casino

    Johnny Casino Dormant account

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    JOhnny CAsino
    Location:
    JOhnny CAsino
     
  26. Dec 18, 2005
  27. Lord_Have_Mercy

    Lord_Have_Mercy Quit Gambling

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    Parts, Unknown
    I find that hard to believe, since the software itself keeps track of wins and losts. It's a calculator/bookkeeping program also. It's design to make money not to payout. You as a manager might can't control it. But its written into the program. I refuse to believe otherwise
     
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  28. Dec 20, 2005
  29. chele

    chele Dormant account

    Occupation:
    professional gambler
    Location:
    Fresno, Ca
    I have never played at roadhouse but I totally believe that certain casinos get tight after a cashin. It always happens to me! specially with intercasino.. I won a rapid fire jackpot of 670 bucks last week and I've tried to recapture the magic and nothing. but oh well its to be expected if yer gonna throw it all back at them, ha. Although my husband did have some luck there today and were up by 200 on that 670.:thumbsup:
     
  30. Dec 20, 2005
  31. jpsartre

    jpsartre Dormant account

    Location:
    Denmark
    Listen, every time somebody feels like posting yet another conspiracy theory I wish they would just stop and think about it for a second. What would be the motivation for tightening the cashout for a specific player after he's had a big win? To make sure that the player will give back some of his winnings? But why would the casino care if the money they gain comes big winning players or loosing players? As long as the overall gain is there the casino will make money, and the overall gain is there since all the games have a houseedge. In the long run, big winning players will give back their wins if they keep playing. Could it be that they want to make sure that every player wins once in a while? So they move some money from overall winners to overall losers. But statistically, every player will win once in a while. There is no need to tighten anything. Again, in the long run the payouts will even out for all players.

    Some conspiracy theories at least make sense (the casino raises the house-edge to gain profit for instance) but this one just doesn't. And if you firmly believe it's true I can only recommend that you never go back to a plce after a big win.
     
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  32. Dec 20, 2005
  33. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    If they did tighten them up after big wins, then they forgot about Slotster!
     
  34. Dec 26, 2005
  35. universexf6

    universexf6 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Harakiri
    Location:
    A Country Called Full Of Geld
    So

    After winning about more than 1,000 USD or I am afraid the
    amount is more or less than so, my BJ bet range was LUCKILY
    "UPgraded" to USD 1 - USD 100 from USD 1 - USD 500 which is
    LITTLE BIT difficult for "PROFESSIONAL" players like me who is
    a genius making money out of BJ but very "UNREPUTABLE" to a
    casino which is called GEISHA LOUNGE WHICH somehow is
    ACCREDITTED by MEISTER here.

    They even stopped sending me e-mails to me which were flowing
    my e-mail box as a VIP player once upon a time.

    I think I HAVE NO TIME FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL GEISHA ANY MORE
    since I am now considered a "bonus abuser" or whatever that
    American phrasing is stating here and there.

    So I think we should understand first and foremost that ”Casinos
    can do anything whatever they want" as someboday who was
    "reputed" in this forum said before which is a complete BULL---
    to me.
     

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