Djcent vs Casinomeister

[Djcent]

Truth and Honor - Lies and Deception

When faced with injustice, silence is complicity. Today, I write to shed light on the appalling conduct of Betplays casino and the institutions that failed to uphold fairness and integrity: Askgamblers, Guru Casino, and ultimately Casinomeister. What could have been a clear case of fraud and deceit has instead been contorted into a sickening victory for a dishonest operator. Let this serve as a rallying cry for accountability in an industry plagued by corruption.

The Betrayal of Trust

Betplays lured me in with promises of fair play, swift withdrawals, and unparalleled entertainment. Instead, they ensnared me in a web of deceit. What began as an ordinary gaming experience spiraled into a nightmare of denied withdrawals, fabricated terms, and evasive customer support. The evidence I provided was irrefutable, a damning indictment of their dishonest practices. Yet, despite my efforts, justice remains elusive.



Turning to the so-called "watchdogs" of the industry, I hoped for support. Surely Askgamblers, Guru Casino, and Casinomeister—with their public commitments to fairness and player protection—would expose Betplays’ malpractices. Instead, they chose to shield the perpetrator.

Askgamblers: Complicit in Silence

Askgamblers, long hailed as a bastion of player advocacy, turned a blind eye. My pleas were met with formulaic responses, my evidence ignored. Their silence spoke volumes: they prioritize relationships with operators over the truth.

Guru Casino: A Hollow Echo

Guru Casino followed suit, parroting platitudes without action. Their failure to confront Betplays reflects either incompetence or willful ignorance—both equally damning.

Casinomeister: The Final Betrayal

Casinomeister was the final arbiter, the supposed beacon of integrity. After protracted deliberations, they sided with the liar. This decision was not only a miscarriage of justice but an outright endorsement of deceit. What does Casinomeister stand for if not fairness? Their judgment legitimized a fraudster and trampled on the trust of every honest player.



This case is more than my personal struggle; it is a microcosm of a deeply flawed industry. Betplays’ actions are symptomatic of an ecosystem that enables operators to exploit players with impunity. The institutions designed to protect us are complicit, either through negligence or greed. Without systemic reform, countless others will fall victim to this cycle of lies.



To players: Be vigilant. Research every platform you engage with and trust no one blindly. Demand transparency and accountability.

To regulators and advocates: This is your moment to prove your worth. If you stand for truth and honor, act decisively against operators like Betplays. Clean house among those who claim to represent players but fail in their duty.

To Betplays and their enablers: You may have won this battle, but your lies will not shield you forever. Truth has a way of surfacing, and when it does, your deceit will be your undoing.

The fight for fairness is far from over. Betplays may continue their deception, and Askgamblers, Guru Casino, and Casinomeister may bury their heads in the sand, but I will not be silenced. This is a battle for every player who values integrity and every institution that claims to uphold it. Together, we can demand the accountability this industry so desperately needs.

 

[mulven]

Truth and Honor - Lies and Deception

When faced with injustice, silence is complicity. Today, I write to shed light on the appalling conduct of Betplays casino and the institutions that failed to uphold fairness and integrity: Askgamblers, Guru Casino, and ultimately Casinomeister. What could have been a clear case of fraud and deceit has instead been contorted into a sickening victory for a dishonest operator. Let this serve as a rallying cry for accountability in an industry plagued by corruption.

The Betrayal of Trust

Betplays lured me in with promises of fair play, swift withdrawals, and unparalleled entertainment. Instead, they ensnared me in a web of deceit. What began as an ordinary gaming experience spiraled into a nightmare of denied withdrawals, fabricated terms, and evasive customer support. The evidence I provided was irrefutable, a damning indictment of their dishonest practices. Yet, despite my efforts, justice remains elusive.



Turning to the so-called "watchdogs" of the industry, I hoped for support. Surely Askgamblers, Guru Casino, and Casinomeister—with their public commitments to fairness and player protection—would expose Betplays’ malpractices. Instead, they chose to shield the perpetrator.

Askgamblers: Complicit in Silence

Askgamblers, long hailed as a bastion of player advocacy, turned a blind eye. My pleas were met with formulaic responses, my evidence ignored. Their silence spoke volumes: they prioritize relationships with operators over the truth.

Guru Casino: A Hollow Echo

Guru Casino followed suit, parroting platitudes without action. Their failure to confront Betplays reflects either incompetence or willful ignorance—both equally damning.

Casinomeister: The Final Betrayal

Casinomeister was the final arbiter, the supposed beacon of integrity. After protracted deliberations, they sided with the liar. This decision was not only a miscarriage of justice but an outright endorsement of deceit. What does Casinomeister stand for if not fairness? Their judgment legitimized a fraudster and trampled on the trust of every honest player.



This case is more than my personal struggle; it is a microcosm of a deeply flawed industry. Betplays’ actions are symptomatic of an ecosystem that enables operators to exploit players with impunity. The institutions designed to protect us are complicit, either through negligence or greed. Without systemic reform, countless others will fall victim to this cycle of lies.



To players: Be vigilant. Research every platform you engage with and trust no one blindly. Demand transparency and accountability.

To regulators and advocates: This is your moment to prove your worth. If you stand for truth and honor, act decisively against operators like Betplays. Clean house among those who claim to represent players but fail in their duty.

To Betplays and their enablers: You may have won this battle, but your lies will not shield you forever. Truth has a way of surfacing, and when it does, your deceit will be your undoing.

The fight for fairness is far from over. Betplays may continue their deception, and Askgamblers, Guru Casino, and Casinomeister may bury their heads in the sand, but I will not be silenced. This is a battle for every player who values integrity and every institution that claims to uphold it. Together, we can demand the accountability this industry so desperately needs.

If maxd and gourd sided against you then the evidence was probably compelling. Also please write Casino Guru, not sure why but it bothers my brain more than it should.

Betplays confiscated ten grand from me so I'm very much not a fan of them and now with the cessation of Curacao licences they only have an Anjouan licence which would make them even less appealing

From your posts you seem to be an advantage gambler, much like myself when I lived in Canadaland. Meaning you utilise bonuses with the goal of making profit rather than having fun.

It's not illegal but it does go against the terms of many sites.

With betplays they had an old bonus system where you could activate the bonus funds even if you withdrew your parachute cash early on a deposit offer (effectively making it bonus back on loss and wins). This was exploitable but after doing it once accidentally I decided it wasn't worth the risk of confiscation.

This was a long time before my confiscation but my best guess is they figured out I wasn't doing many cash only deposits and waited for the right time to pull the trigger (a big win or a big deposit) as it would be profitable to wait and let me rack up some losses first. Well played in my book they would not give up the specifc reason other than vague terms citation and their old Curacao master licence was useless. Ask gamblers said they don't deal with the type of term violation so I was out of options, outplayed. Sucks but I moved on, cost of doing business eh.

Betplays, as far as I know, brought in a new bonus system that is now "bonus first" meaning your cash is safe while you wager your bonus. This would allow you to play high risk (within the limits of win caps) with your bonus and then minimum wager your deposit and withdraw.

I can count on two hands the number of sites that use bonus first systems and it's extremely valuable to the player and an awful oversight from risk management of casinos that utilise it.

My best guess is you may have done one of the three following things.

1. Utilised the bonus funds after a withdrawal of cash, if this complaint is quite old.
2. Maximised EV in strategy and play of the bonus first bonuses and minimised risk. This pattern was detected and a confiscation was made.
3. You only ever played with bonuses so they labelled you as a bonus abused internally and waited for the right moment to confiscate to maximise profit.

When you play for profit and not fun you always run the risk of being found in violation of terms.

Your post is very grandiose and you make yourself out to be a massive victim who has been screwed by everyone.

You're an advantage gambler who flew too close to the sun. The value betplays put out is insane (after becoming bonus first / reverse parachute) and if they figured out you were taking them purely for profit purposes and had the evidence to back it up, of course 3rd parties will side with them.

 

[Webzcas]

Echo what Mulven states above concerning @maxd and @GourdFollower, who are now on a much needed break for the next week.

I am not privy to the PAB Complaints process and procedures here on Casinomeister, neither are any of the other forum staff or indeed writers for the site. So you will I am afraid have to wait upon Max's and Gourdfollower's return for them to address your claim that they sided with a 'liar'.

What I will say though, is that they take their role incredibly seriously. Hence year after year they have been able to help return monies back to players. For 2024 alone it currently stands at €1,175,689

That said, during this time in the role of running the PAB complaints service they have also busted many a fraudulent player.

I suggest therefore, until their return, you please refrain from throwing accusations their way. Thank you.

 

[mulven]

Echo what Mulven states above concerning @maxd and @GourdFollower, who are now on a much needed break for the next week.

I am not privy to the PAB Complaints process and procedures here on Casinomeister, neither are any of the other forum staff or indeed writers for the site. So you will I am afraid have to wait upon Max's and Gourdfollower's return for them to address your claim that they sided with a 'liar'.

What I will say though, is that they take their role incredibly seriously. Hence year after year they have been able to help return monies back to players. For 2024 alone it currently stands at €1,175,689

That said, during this time in the role of running the PAB complaints service they have also busted many a fraudulent player.

I suggest therefore, until their return, you please refrain from throwing accusations their way. Thank you.

Since it will be a little while before clarity is provided by the PAB staff, I'll shed some light on what this specific complaint is about.

DJCent appears to have won a large daily tournament prize. This appears to have been within the points/missions framework alot of websites adopted over the last year or so (not sure the exact name of it but I've seen it on so many unrelated sites). Betplays call theirs BP Camp.

DJCent was promotion banned at some point for inappropriate behaviour (read: abuse). Not sure whether this was all promotions or just a specific subsection. There is conflicting information regarding the status of his bonuses/tournament availability although some of it is from a live chat agent so what they say isn't necessarily correct or ironclad.

Timing of decision might be dishonest but that aside, it seems like the DJ was playing in a tournament he was restricted from and as the BP Camp is a generic system used by hundreds or thousands of casinos it's likely it was not synced with his promotion ban. Therefore BP Camp seems to have allowed him to win a tournament he was technically restricted from. And the winning prize was not credited due to the ban.

He was extremely rude and condescending with the staff at casino guru and his account was banned. This was not his first casino guru ban as his first account, leksandr (don't worry not violating rule 1.4, that isn't his name), was banned in 2022 due to offensive behaviour and unhealthy attitude. He seemed to be attacking/harassing and conspiratorially questioning other members of the forum.

He was not banned again for ban evasion as it appears he was given a second chance according to the ban message for his second account:

After your continued ungrateful and highly illogical attitude, which you demonstrated on the forum, and the fact that you consider the Trust Pilot review to be current despite the fact that you have immediately opened other free-of-charge complaints that you previously described very negatively through the aforementioned Trust Pilot review. Moreover, you literally bagged us to allow you to be part of our community again.

Based on our overall experiences with you, we have agreed that such an ungrateful person will not continue to receive our support and energy under such circumstances.
So, I'm just letting you know that I'm banning this account and any others you aim to create in the future without the option of cancellation.
We appreciate your understanding about this.

DJCent has also had an issue with Pin-Up Casino over their handling of a tournament prize. Not sure if this is a coincidence or an indication that DJ Cent might abuse tournament promotions in some form, for profit. He still plays there based on his posts in the screenshot threads so I'm not sure on the resolution to that problem (EDIT: based on a post on CasinoGrounds, he received his prize eventually). He has a history of account closures or management decisions to longer offer bonuses, IceCasino or AxeCasino for example.

I might rescind my initial assumption of advantage gambler as there are posts questioning the integrity of games due to lack of winnings and accusations of "unfair play" against casinos when he lost all his bonus money and deposit with very little wagering completed. Perhaps he like to only use bonuses but still doesn't have a deeper understanding of it all.

It is quite telling that complaints made by DJCent have been found in favour of the operator by ThePogg (2021), LCB, AskGamblers, Casino Guru and now Casinomeister. Once he hasn't got his way with sites like these he goes on a crusade against them across many platforms such as Trustpilot and even LinkedIn! After leaving a 1 star review for ThePogg in 2021 he still goes back to them in 2024 (CasinoReviews.com) to try and complain against Betplays (this was done around 7 weeks ago, wonder if it was concurrent with PAB?).

Continued tirades against AG/CG or Betplays in posts on the forum would contravene rule 1.11 and continued slander of Casinomeister and it's staff would contravene rule 1.19, including posts made on the likes of trustpilot.

Up until now his behaviour on casinomeister has been pretty normal other than some posts relating to BitStarz, however if the way he has treated AG/CG following their decisions on his complaints is anything to go by, this may change for the worse.

Personally I find it a bit rich that his post evokes the defense of integrity and the battle against corruption and greed and yet his youtube channel showcasing his wins is filled with affiliate links for the casinos associated with each win.

 

[mikedavis]

Can’t say I fully understand the complaint, but in my experience Casino Guru are fantastic, with a fully transparent and public tribunal there isn’t much opportunity for the operator to hide.
Personally I find reading the complaints section pretty useful when choosing where to play.

With that said, I can’t comment on AG or CM - they have their reasons to keep things private and opaque. In some cases it probably makes things smoother to negotiate, in others there’s almost certainty going to be some favouritism.

If all three found reason to rule against, there’s probably a reason for it.

 

[dunover]

Truth and Honor - Lies and Deception

When faced with injustice, silence is complicity. Today, I write to shed light on the appalling conduct of Betplays casino and the institutions that failed to uphold fairness and integrity: Askgamblers, Guru Casino, and ultimately Casinomeister. What could have been a clear case of fraud and deceit has instead been contorted into a sickening victory for a dishonest operator. Let this serve as a rallying cry for accountability in an industry plagued by corruption.

The Betrayal of Trust

Betplays lured me in with promises of fair play, swift withdrawals, and unparalleled entertainment. Instead, they ensnared me in a web of deceit. What began as an ordinary gaming experience spiraled into a nightmare of denied withdrawals, fabricated terms, and evasive customer support. The evidence I provided was irrefutable, a damning indictment of their dishonest practices. Yet, despite my efforts, justice remains elusive.

You had justice, just didn't get your desired result from 3 different arbiters, that should tell you something.
You are also technically breaching the rules on this site by using multiple portals to raise the same issue you have here on Casinomeister, yet CM still attempted to help you.

Turning to the so-called "watchdogs" of the industry, I hoped for support. Surely Askgamblers, Guru Casino, and Casinomeister—with their public commitments to fairness and player protection—would expose Betplays’ malpractices. Instead, they chose to shield the perpetrator.

Askgamblers: Complicit in Silence

Askgamblers, long hailed as a bastion of player advocacy, turned a blind eye. My pleas were met with formulaic responses, my evidence ignored. Their silence spoke volumes: they prioritize relationships with operators over the truth.

Guru Casino: A Hollow Echo

Guru Casino followed suit, parroting platitudes without action. Their failure to confront Betplays reflects either incompetence or willful ignorance—both equally damning.

Casinomeister: The Final Betrayal

Casinomeister was the final arbiter, the supposed beacon of integrity. After protracted deliberations, they sided with the liar. This decision was not only a miscarriage of justice but an outright endorsement of deceit. What does Casinomeister stand for if not fairness? Their judgment legitimized a fraudster and trampled on the trust of every honest player.

You mean they sided with the party you claim are liars. Only got your word for that.

This case is more than my personal struggle; it is a microcosm of a deeply flawed industry. Betplays’ actions are symptomatic of an ecosystem that enables operators to exploit players with impunity. The institutions designed to protect us are complicit, either through negligence or greed. Without systemic reform, countless others will fall victim to this cycle of lies.

To players: Be vigilant. Research every platform you engage with and trust no one blindly. Demand transparency and accountability.

To regulators and advocates: This is your moment to prove your worth. If you stand for truth and honor, act decisively against operators like Betplays. Clean house among those who claim to represent players but fail in their duty.

You play knowingly at a site that displays a license/business number that has about as much worth as the back of a cereal box, then call for regulation! Caveat Emptor.

To Betplays and their enablers: You may have won this battle, but your lies will not shield you forever. Truth has a way of surfacing, and when it does, your deceit will be your undoing.

The fight for fairness is far from over. Betplays may continue their deception, and Askgamblers, Guru Casino, and Casinomeister may bury their heads in the sand, but I will not be silenced. This is a battle for every player who values integrity and every institution that claims to uphold it. Together, we can demand the accountability this industry so desperately needs.

OK, you may not be silenced but you will be on here if you carry on this bitter agenda. You didn't get the result you wanted, above @mulven has demonstrated your 'methods' of winning cash from online casinos which are never going to end well every time, as you have discovered at least twice. Maybe stop throwing your toys out of the pram if you don't get your own way and be more objective about how you approach online casinos. People have tried to help you, advise you and done a bit of homework about your previous activity on various fora. You need to quit this bitterness as soon as.

 

[maxd]

...Casinomeister: The Final Betrayal

Casinomeister was the final arbiter, the supposed beacon of integrity. After protracted deliberations, they sided with the liar. This decision was not only a miscarriage of justice but an outright endorsement of deceit. What does Casinomeister stand for if not fairness? Their judgment legitimized a fraudster and trampled on the trust of every honest player.

First of all you seem to have forgotten that we helped you with a case in September and successfully resolved that for you. Your final words there were:

"Thank you Casinomeister for helping me get my prize money! Your advice and support have been incredibly helpful. Thanks to your expert help I got my prize money. I highly appreciate your work and contribution to protecting players' rights."​

You also neglected to mention that in your most recent case we were working on it for you as per normal for any PAB but there was one major problem: the casino neither acknowledged nor responded to your complaint, as you were warned might be the case given their feeble licensing. After two attempts we told you that there was no progress but that we were continuing our efforts. Your response:

“… your silence and lack of concrete action are beginning to raise my suspicions. Are you simply trying to buy time and cover up for this casino? I ask you to provide a clear plan for the next steps and inform me how you intend to protect my rights."​

Aside from the fact that you’d suddenly learned English — most of your previous posts being in your native language — and your text was looking awfully AI-ish you’d now crossed the line to accusing us instead of paying any attention whatsoever to the case as it had gone up to that point and violating both the Forum and PAB rules regarding abuse of and accusations against Casinomeister staff.

Needless to say things degenerated from there. I told you of the inevitable consequences of your actions if you persisted to which you responded:

“… things are heading towards the fact that you will shut my mouth by blocking me from your website. I am not afraid. I am just becoming more and more convinced of the lies that go along with gambling. Someday I will write a book about these lies."​

Obviously we were no longer useful to you and you’d changed your mind about how you "highly appreciate your work and contribution to protecting players’ rights”. I said it was time for you to apologise and allow us to proceed, or we’d come to the end and would withdraw from the case. You said:

"I believe I have nothing to apologize for. Unlike you, I never lie or demand dubious apologies using my position. Even if I were to apologize, it would be a lie, insincere. Therefore, I say to you: thank you, but no. If you believe you are right, go ahead and close this case. Let this casino continue deceiving its customers. I will manage to get through this."​

I said I would do as you requested to which you replied:

"I didn't expect anything else. You have neither honor nor conscience."​

At which point your case was closed and you proceeded to post as you have done here.

From our point of view your case was:

• dead in the water because the casino was not responding.
• on the chopping block because of your abuse and groundless accusations.
• doomed because of your repeated violations of the Forum and PAB Rules.

So yes, go forth and distort the facts wherever you find it convenient to do so. Like other sites before us we’ve come to point where we are withdrawing our offer of services from you including your continued membership here. As you predicted? You might think so but also as you’ve richly earned and made inevitable. Happy trails to you.

- Max