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got a mail from ladiesbingo
200% bonus only
got a mail from ladiesbingo
200% bonus only
Did you get a Christmas present from your Casino?
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You might want to log into your accounts to check rather than wait for an email. I haven't played at Vegas Country in well over a year (and only deposited a couple hundred total) but found $20 sitting there. Found $25 at Maple Casino (another one I'd only deposited a few times at). Casinos I've deposited 1000s at over the past year (Fortune Lounge, Spin Palace, Golden Reef) -- nothing. But I've cashed out a lot from them so maybe we're even 
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satori said:You might want to log into your accounts to check rather than wait for an email. I haven't played at Vegas Country in well over a year (and only deposited a couple hundred total) but found $20 sitting there. Found $25 at Maple Casino (another one I'd only deposited a few times at). Casinos I've deposited 1000s at over the past year (Fortune Lounge, Spin Palace, Golden Reef) -- nothing. But I've cashed out a lot from them so maybe we're even
You keep casinos installed on your computer that you haven't played at in a year? Geeze....
rudepete said:
Rude Pete makes a valid point here - if the casino screws up and the customer is prejudiced the casino should eat the mistake and learn from it.
We have several precedents for this convention in addition to those quoted by Rude Pete - Joyland being a recent one (although they apparently did not come through with many of their promises)
Another poster says: "I think that the main point of the thread is that casinos are businesses. We, the players, are their source of income. We are the reason they are able to stay in business. It is only common sense to make players feel welcome and let us know our business is appreciated."
I agree with that within reasonable limits, but unfortunately I think there's a lot of greed and a desperate deficit of real marketing expertise and player-sensitivity at many online venues, where the misguided thinking often seems to be that there are plenty of other clients out there so losing a few doesn't really matter. And common sense is often in short supply too!!!
The general impression one gets is that land operations, despite their higher general overheads are better at seeing the commercial advantages of generosity from time to time.
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You keep casinos installed on your computer that you haven't played at in a year? Geeze....
No, I only keep my regulars installed. I went to their websites and logged into the FLASH version
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Recieved no Christmas presents from any casino =/
Used the $10 from Inetbet and ran that up too $250 on Ronin slots. Then lost it trying to shoot the moon at $5 a spin =/
Used the $10 from Inetbet and ran that up too $250 on Ronin slots. Then lost it trying to shoot the moon at $5 a spin =/
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I agree with this, Jetset. When I first started gambling online (circa 2001), casinos were much more generous with random/birthday/Christmas bonuses (remember Easter and Mother's Day bonuses??). And I'm guessing that there was a much smaller player base at that time so perhaps the casinos were putting more effort into developing player loyalty by giving out more frequent bonuses (and typically $100-200). It seems that every year it has declined. which may be a combination of: cut in marketing budget due to increase in chargebacks, bonus abusers and fraud, or possibly a change in focus about the categories of players who will receive bonuses (ie those they deem as most valuable.. perhaps large depositors who rarely cash out?)
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Jetset and Satori make valid points. However i think Jetset's "greed" factor is worth picking up on here. As Mousey stated earlier, casinos's are businesses. But in actual fact we are all as individuals businesses, trying to survive, make a living and get from A to B in some degree of comfort.
Greed is, unfortunately, just part of human nature. I'm sure we have/do/will all be a party to it at some point. If you run a casino, you want to make it profitable. If you run any business you want to make it profitable. If we each want to survive, we have to be profitable. Many players when they gamble want to make a profit. Some will be "less than scrupulous" in trying to do so and the honest players, as in life, will end up paying the shortfall.
So the more bonus abusers and the more fraudulent players we see, the less profit a casino makes, the less incentives are handed out to the regular guys. That's business.
I still maintain my (apparently unpopular) stance that this industry will never get to where it needs to be and honest players will never fully get the service they want until signup bonuses are a thing of the past. If you remove the signup bonus and continue giving loyalty bonuses to players who are known and trusted, you remove the most prevalent method of fraud this industry has. Maybe then we'll see some decent Christmas bonuses back
Greed is, unfortunately, just part of human nature. I'm sure we have/do/will all be a party to it at some point. If you run a casino, you want to make it profitable. If you run any business you want to make it profitable. If we each want to survive, we have to be profitable. Many players when they gamble want to make a profit. Some will be "less than scrupulous" in trying to do so and the honest players, as in life, will end up paying the shortfall.
So the more bonus abusers and the more fraudulent players we see, the less profit a casino makes, the less incentives are handed out to the regular guys. That's business.
I still maintain my (apparently unpopular) stance that this industry will never get to where it needs to be and honest players will never fully get the service they want until signup bonuses are a thing of the past. If you remove the signup bonus and continue giving loyalty bonuses to players who are known and trusted, you remove the most prevalent method of fraud this industry has. Maybe then we'll see some decent Christmas bonuses back
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Simmo! said:So the more bonus abusers and the more fraudulent players we see, the less profit a casino makes, the less incentives are handed out to the regular guys. That's business.
I still maintain my (apparently unpopular) stance that this industry will never get to where it needs to be and honest players will never fully get the service they want until signup bonuses are a thing of the past. If you remove the signup bonus and continue giving loyalty bonuses to players who are known and trusted, you remove the most prevalent method of fraud this industry has. Maybe then we'll see some decent Christmas bonuses back
It is certainly true that it seems that as the industry develops things become tighter and tighter - a situation where one side seeks an advantage and the other then tries to counter it often seems to be the case in the pursuit of reward, and that's to be expected. But the danger of fraud is very significant as we have so often seen showcased on these very pages.
I entered the industry back in late '96 and I can recall bonus conditions that would make most online bonus fans salivate today - very low W/Ts that are now history!
I have to say that I share Simmo's views above - more focus on loyalty would be a good thing - but with the competititive imperative (and even priority) to acquire new customers and the now deep entrenchment of the sign-up bonus in the marketing psyche I don't see this incentive being abandoned any time soon.
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I just found $56 in an account I haven't played in about a month! I think part of it might be from comps and the other part an xmas gift. It's a nice surprise after losing all weekend
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jetset said:
Sadly, i agree Jetset.
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Macgyver said:
I think Jetset and Simmo! did a good job explaining this, check their posts. I find it immensely important that a Casino rewards loyalty, just like any other business who thinks you're an important customer. And, judging by the posts in this thread, others feel the same as well. (Some seem to feel very strongly
)We all lose money gambling (except KK
), so we pay for the entertainment. Sometimes we lose a lot, and it makes a huge difference that the casino gives some back.Just look at the publicity here in this thread: 32Red's marketing savvy ensures they get a lot of good PR here in the forums -> new customers, happy regular depositors -> more business, and more profit. 32Red are true pros. A lot of the operations seem amateurs in comparison.
A 3-digit cash gift in the account, no wagering requirement attached, along with a personal Christmas greeting from the management -> goes a long way, I'm sure.
I agree with Simmo! that signup bonuses are a bad thing. I acknowledge that the competition for new players is so fierce that the signup bonuses will stay around, but maybe, just maybe, there's a better way to attract new customers: keeping your existing customers happy. Word gets around - amazingly effectively these days. I'm sure 32Red will have quite a few new customers signing up after this Xmas, and the loyal ones aren't going away anytime soon...
Cheers,
SM
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All great posts gentlemen. I guess looking at it from a different angle, fair or not, how come a relatively small operation like a 32Red can be so generous to it's players on Christmas, and the rest of the more established field cannot? I'd expect the mega-affiliates like Belle Rock, VegasPartnerLounge, Grand Prive, or a Fortune Lounge to be more giving than they have been. I'd think that they would have enough assets to keep up with the rat race, and maintain their munificence of years past.
It's a growing field, and while I agree that it isn't like '96 anymore, where there were a handful of upstart casinos scrambling to lure-in whatever market (the players) was available then, it's good business sense that they should maintain their generosity (with the players who've been "loyal"). Their main objective is to keep their list of clients growing, while trying to retain as many as they can. How do you do that? Well you try with kindness and by keeping them happy (and presumably with bonuses especially on their birthdays and Christmas). Why take the risk of insulting them by not showing that you care for their business?
Personally, I wasn't really expecting much of anything this Christmas (with the exception of 2 casinos in particular, and 1 certainly came through for me). Jetset is right by stating that these casinos MUST turn a profit, and they must manage and at times juggle their resources according to the market. But as an armchair observer, you should make room to take some hits along the way. Crediting your "loyal" players with just $15-20 (although more would certainly be welcomed ), shows that your putting the company in a position of low-end risk, while most likely earning higher growth potential in the long-run.
You need look no further than within this thread to see that many forum members (and certainly an innumerable amount of others who'll never post here) feel slighted by casinos they've been going to for quite some time (think: Rudepete). It's not hard to fathom that they won't be returning to their regular casinos for the upcoming season, and find another casino where they'll feel more appreciated. 32Red I'm sure took a big hit for December, but the benefits that will likely follow in the coming months will more than offset the losses. Hmmm, you think by this time next year, EVERYONE at this forum will want to be a Club Rouge member?
A final thought about what Simmo! had stated concerning casinos pulling back on various bonuses, because of the initial deposit bonus. I too feel that the initial deposit bonuses are very responsible for hurting not only the player but the casino as well. While I like a Bet365, and they do offer one of those large initial deposit bonuses, there's nothing for the player who wants to keep making future deposits. I'll keep going back, because of their live-BJ (and those PlayTech loyalty comps build-up quickly... unlike most MG casinos), but I would highly doubt most players in today's market would want to return. As stated to me by one of their managers (via telephone), that initial deposit bonus costs them a lot, and they would much rather pump more bonuses into their poker and sportsbook side of things (which as I understand, has been a much more lucrative market believe it or not).
Now, this is just one casino, isolated from every other one in the field. But, few casinos give great (REALLY great) ongoing promotions, or monthly bonuses. The best monthly bonuses (and probably why KasinoKing favors them the most) can be found at various Cryptologic casinos, or at 32Red.
So again, where's the incentive for the player to return, seeing how the bonuses are already dried-up? Too many players will simply move-on to another casino offering a 100% match bonus on their initial deposit. In a sense, one can understand why the casinos (the reputable and accredited ones of course) could feel slightly cheated. They gave you a wonderful opportunity to win money, tried selling you their product by being loyal first, and many times the player won't stick around.
So yes, those initial treats have managed to backfire over the long-haul, thus creating lots of friction between the player and the casino. Now, imagine if there were no "Casinomeister.com" in place, trying to close that very gap. It'll be interesting to see how this practice of giving-out large initial deposit bonuses unfolds and evolves over the course of the next 10-years.
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Simmo!
jetset
satori
All great posts gentlemen. I guess looking at it from a different angle, fair or not, how come a relatively small operation like a 32Red can be so generous to it's players on Christmas, and the rest of the more established field cannot? I'd expect the mega-affiliates like Belle Rock, VegasPartnerLounge, Grand Prive, or a Fortune Lounge to be more giving than they have been. I'd think that they would have enough assets to keep up with the rat race, and maintain their munificence of years past.
It's a growing field, and while I agree that it isn't like '96 anymore, where there were a handful of upstart casinos scrambling to lure-in whatever market (the players) was available then, it's good business sense that they should maintain their generosity (with the players who've been "loyal"). Their main objective is to keep their list of clients growing, while trying to retain as many as they can. How do you do that? Well you try with kindness and by keeping them happy (and presumably with bonuses especially on their birthdays and Christmas). Why take the risk of insulting them by not showing that you care for their business?
Personally, I wasn't really expecting much of anything this Christmas (with the exception of 2 casinos in particular, and 1 certainly came through for me). Jetset is right by stating that these casinos MUST turn a profit, and they must manage and at times juggle their resources according to the market. But as an armchair observer, you should make room to take some hits along the way. Crediting your "loyal" players with just $15-20 (although more would certainly be welcomed
), shows that your putting the company in a position of low-end risk, while most likely earning higher growth potential in the long-run. You need look no further than within this thread to see that many forum members (and certainly an innumerable amount of others who'll never post here) feel slighted by casinos they've been going to for quite some time (think: Rudepete). It's not hard to fathom that they won't be returning to their regular casinos for the upcoming season, and find another casino where they'll feel more appreciated. 32Red I'm sure took a big hit for December, but the benefits that will likely follow in the coming months will more than offset the losses. Hmmm, you think by this time next year, EVERYONE at this forum will want to be a Club Rouge member?
A final thought about what Simmo! had stated concerning casinos pulling back on various bonuses, because of the initial deposit bonus. I too feel that the initial deposit bonuses are very responsible for hurting not only the player but the casino as well. While I like a Bet365, and they do offer one of those large initial deposit bonuses, there's nothing for the player who wants to keep making future deposits. I'll keep going back, because of their live-BJ (and those PlayTech loyalty comps build-up quickly... unlike most MG casinos), but I would highly doubt most players in today's market would want to return. As stated to me by one of their managers (via telephone), that initial deposit bonus costs them a lot, and they would much rather pump more bonuses into their poker and sportsbook side of things (which as I understand, has been a much more lucrative market believe it or not).
Now, this is just one casino, isolated from every other one in the field. But, few casinos give great (REALLY great) ongoing promotions, or monthly bonuses. The best monthly bonuses (and probably why KasinoKing favors them the most) can be found at various Cryptologic casinos, or at 32Red.
So again, where's the incentive for the player to return, seeing how the bonuses are already dried-up? Too many players will simply move-on to another casino offering a 100% match bonus on their initial deposit. In a sense, one can understand why the casinos (the reputable and accredited ones of course) could feel slightly cheated. They gave you a wonderful opportunity to win money, tried selling you their product by being loyal first, and many times the player won't stick around.
So yes, those initial treats have managed to backfire over the long-haul, thus creating lots of friction between the player and the casino. Now, imagine if there were no "Casinomeister.com" in place, trying to close that very gap. It'll be interesting to see how this practice of giving-out large initial deposit bonuses unfolds and evolves over the course of the next 10-years.
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John Steed's use of the phrase "managing or even juggling resources" is to my mind appropriate, because perhaps that is what needs to be reconsidered across the breadth of marketing budgets.
Several of the large groups in this business spend tens of millions, literally, on marketing and publicity especially in the States (remember those two groups that featured in marketing media earlier this year looking for agencies over there to turn $20 million budgets into large flows of players?)
One assumes that professional marketers employed by online gambling companies regularly do the sums and research before spending these significant sums of money, yet one hears little of loyalty initiatives other than occasional high profile events like FL's periodic dinners and gifts in the USA. And I'm not just talking about the almost universal practice of loyalty points at low percentage levels based on deposit amounts, either.
Online datamining technology now arms marketers with an immense range of private and relevant information on the customer, giving casinos the ability to be constantly aware of the ongoing value of individual customers and trends - that should be revisited frequently to establish whether the balance between new business and retention is right.
Judging by this thread there would seem to be a need for it - and operators don't have to wait for next Christmas to do it, either.
Several of the large groups in this business spend tens of millions, literally, on marketing and publicity especially in the States (remember those two groups that featured in marketing media earlier this year looking for agencies over there to turn $20 million budgets into large flows of players?)
One assumes that professional marketers employed by online gambling companies regularly do the sums and research before spending these significant sums of money, yet one hears little of loyalty initiatives other than occasional high profile events like FL's periodic dinners and gifts in the USA. And I'm not just talking about the almost universal practice of loyalty points at low percentage levels based on deposit amounts, either.
Online datamining technology now arms marketers with an immense range of private and relevant information on the customer, giving casinos the ability to be constantly aware of the ongoing value of individual customers and trends - that should be revisited frequently to establish whether the balance between new business and retention is right.
Judging by this thread there would seem to be a need for it - and operators don't have to wait for next Christmas to do it, either.
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Cha Ching
Let me interrupt this serious tone here for a moment to say I LOVE JACKPOT FACTORY! Really the only place I play (besides my weakness for iNetBet). I won some contest from the weekend and its in my account. Still waiting to find out if I have to play it and how much (usually 5 times). You don't have to play your comps redeemed so anything is possible with them. I wish other places would just give you your point money to cash out if you wanted like JP & land based. Sheesh. It's like going for them twice. Or really like 11x-15x in some cases. Doesn't matter in my case, I'll just be playing at JP's anyway.
******back to serious
I really despise casino groups that reward the non-depositor and ignore the paying public. Breakaway and SciFi are like that. Unless you are a big loser there, you can forget getting anything free from them. They have as much as told us that. Not even a stinkin' 10 on my birthday after hundreds deposited, but they consistently run that 10 free or whatever for existing members who haven't deposited yet. They are definitely off the list for me.
Let me interrupt this serious tone here for a moment to say I LOVE JACKPOT FACTORY! Really the only place I play (besides my weakness for iNetBet). I won some contest from the weekend and its in my account. Still waiting to find out if I have to play it and how much (usually 5 times). You don't have to play your comps redeemed so anything is possible with them. I wish other places would just give you your point money to cash out if you wanted like JP & land based. Sheesh. It's like going for them twice. Or really like 11x-15x in some cases. Doesn't matter in my case, I'll just be playing at JP's anyway.
******back to serious
I really despise casino groups that reward the non-depositor and ignore the paying public. Breakaway and SciFi are like that. Unless you are a big loser there, you can forget getting anything free from them. They have as much as told us that. Not even a stinkin' 10 on my birthday after hundreds deposited, but they consistently run that 10 free or whatever for existing members who haven't deposited yet. They are definitely off the list for me.
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Johnsteed, thanks!
There's just one thng wrong in your recent post..
I'm not a gentleman - I'm 100% woman
There's just one thng wrong in your recent post..
I'm not a gentleman - I'm 100% woman
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I stand by what I said
Thank most of you for agreeing with me to some extent. But I stand by what I told Inetbet, I deleted them from my computer. I did not play the free $10 and I sat and went through pages upon pages upon pages of my account there and found out just how much I really did play and lose and win there. So guess where that was. Lost consideralby more then I won. which in itself is okay, but:
When they all wake up and realize that taking care of loyal players and not catering to new players will benefit them in the long run.
pay attention to those loyal players, give them a little gift every now and then,for no reason, just a thank you gift of $5 or $10 would reap them many more dollars in deposits.
I used to have my own personal host at Starluck and she took care of me on a regular basis on top of the monthly bonus they do give and the fact that once you have 100 comp points you can cash in the $1.00 not have to wait forever for 50 points to get $5, which by the way takes forever to get if you only play European Slots.
So I will stick with the ones, that comp me monthly or when they make a mistake it is in my favor.
Happy New Year and may all your gambling pay off.
Pete
Thank most of you for agreeing with me to some extent. But I stand by what I told Inetbet, I deleted them from my computer. I did not play the free $10 and I sat and went through pages upon pages upon pages of my account there and found out just how much I really did play and lose and win there. So guess where that was. Lost consideralby more then I won. which in itself is okay, but:
When they all wake up and realize that taking care of loyal players and not catering to new players will benefit them in the long run.
pay attention to those loyal players, give them a little gift every now and then,for no reason, just a thank you gift of $5 or $10 would reap them many more dollars in deposits.
I used to have my own personal host at Starluck and she took care of me on a regular basis on top of the monthly bonus they do give and the fact that once you have 100 comp points you can cash in the $1.00 not have to wait forever for 50 points to get $5, which by the way takes forever to get if you only play European Slots.
So I will stick with the ones, that comp me monthly or when they make a mistake it is in my favor.
Happy New Year and may all your gambling pay off.
Pete
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Slotmachine said:
Let me clarify something, since it seems it didn't come across in my other post ...
I was referring specifically to expecting Christmas presents from anyone, including online casinos. I was speaking more of the Christmas spirit and its commercialization and loss of good-will than I was addressing online casinos' need to hold on to loyal players.
As far as the second idea goes (holding on to loyal players), I do agree that casinos (online or b&m) only benefit themselves by looking after their loyal players. I go to Intercasino and 32Red (I've got the johnsteed fever
) because of their monthly offers and their excellent reputation, given my own personal experience.In fact, those two casinos are some of a very select few that I patronize on the off-chance I get a wild hair up my ass and want to deposit without getting a bonus.
So, yes, any business should recognize and look after their repeat customers. I've said enough about the Christmas spirit, so I'll leave it at that ...
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Nice Gifts
I was very weary about posting this,because I didn't/don't want other players to contact these casinos and say something like "You gave n1stunnor "x" amount,how come you only gave me "x-smaller" amount",or something to that affect(Hey,there's alot of greedy players out there).
I got nice xmas gifts from both 32RED and InterCasino. The only 2 casinos I play at regularly.
Now let me just say before I post the amounts that I so generously received, that I believe that over the past 8 months or so I'm probably somewhere in the top 5 players at 32RED in terms of Club Rogue Points(which of course means I play a lot and bet a lot) and I have been a regular at Intercasino for a few years.
32RED- $632 Thanks Pat and Ed
Intercasino- $500 Thanks Ryan
You know where I'll be continuing to only play at next year
I was very weary about posting this,because I didn't/don't want other players to contact these casinos and say something like "You gave n1stunnor "x" amount,how come you only gave me "x-smaller" amount",or something to that affect(Hey,there's alot of greedy players out there).
I got nice xmas gifts from both 32RED and InterCasino. The only 2 casinos I play at regularly.
Now let me just say before I post the amounts that I so generously received, that I believe that over the past 8 months or so I'm probably somewhere in the top 5 players at 32RED in terms of Club Rogue Points(which of course means I play a lot and bet a lot) and I have been a regular at Intercasino for a few years.
32RED- $632 Thanks Pat and Ed
Intercasino- $500 Thanks Ryan
You know where I'll be continuing to only play at next year
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What I don't get is why casinos don't cater to low-rollers also. Sure the deposits are smaller, but they do add up, and sometimes quite fast. I think a match bonus given on a holiday/birthday, etc is just a slap in the face if you ask me...I could name two casinos (But I won't) that I've deposited thousands at (lost over the long run too), but not as much as a christmas greeting, let alone $.01 from either.
Oh well.....lol
Oh well.....lol
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I received a very nice Harrods hamper from Intercasino as a Xmas prezzie. Very nice!
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Wow. In thinking abot it, I agree with Simmo. They should can the
welcome bonuses ( at least the no depost free chips) and cater to the regulars. Makes a lot of sense. If I ran a business that is what I would do.
So many casinos have a large clientel now and they do not need to attract as much as they did at first, so cater to who you have.
Seven sultans group is great for paying out, but they never offer
any free money. Once i got 10 bucks after loosing a lot, and another time, I got an email saying they gave me 10 bucks, but it was not in my account.
When I emailed them about it bounced.
I wish I had the money to start my own online casino. I would do things
differently)
Amatrine
welcome bonuses ( at least the no depost free chips) and cater to the regulars. Makes a lot of sense. If I ran a business that is what I would do.
So many casinos have a large clientel now and they do not need to attract as much as they did at first, so cater to who you have.
Seven sultans group is great for paying out, but they never offer
any free money. Once i got 10 bucks after loosing a lot, and another time, I got an email saying they gave me 10 bucks, but it was not in my account.
When I emailed them about it bounced.
I wish I had the money to start my own online casino. I would do things
differently
) Amatrine
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$200 from Lake Palace and $50 from Breakaway - thanks guys
Im a bit miffed with Phoenician as I play there all the time, and Wild Jacks nothing either
Im a bit miffed with Phoenician as I play there all the time, and Wild Jacks nothing either
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So-so-so-so close... (sigh)
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I should mention that I did get a X-Mas from Carnival Casino, despite not playing there in eons. It was for $20, and despite not taking it very high, twice I was dealt 4/5 cards that would have made a Royal Flush. Missed twice.
Oh well, would they have paid? Not so sure.
Steed
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I should mention that I did get a X-Mas from Carnival Casino, despite not playing there in eons. It was for $20, and despite not taking it very high, twice I was dealt 4/5 cards that would have made a Royal Flush. Missed twice.
AARRRGGHH!!!
Oh well, would they have paid? Not so sure.
Steed
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Presents for 2006
Calling all casinos..... calling all casinos. For those who missed out on giving X'Mas presents to us players,this is your last call. You have only 4 days to give us your New Year presents. So join the festive season and be generous. Hehe!
Calling all casinos..... calling all casinos. For those who missed out on giving X'Mas presents to us players,this is your last call. You have only 4 days to give us your New Year presents. So join the festive season and be generous. Hehe!
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I don't play much at Grand Hotel but when I downloaded (had to get a new computer, mine crashed and burned right before Christmas) I had $100!! Didn't win anything but it kept me occupied for a few hours! Thanks!
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Presents
Just wanted to chime in. When I was a casino operater there were a couple of problems with sending out presents. First off since we were out of the country for our players, when we wanted to send them gifts we had to use a "third party", and we did not always feel safe putting our customer list in a third parties hands. Last year we sent Thanksgiving centerpieces to a number of our customers. 50% of the players who got them were upset for sending stuff to their house. About 25% were upset that the flowers only cost 100.00 and they felt they deserved more, and another 10% said they would rather of had us deposit the money in their casino account, the last 15% we never heard from if they liked it our not. All in all it was not worth sending the gifts out.
For Christmas I gave all of my VIP customers 25% cashback on their losses for the year. This went over very well but it took me 36 hours to review each account and credit it.
So when you wonder why some casinos don't give out gifts , there are some difficult circumstances that players are not always aware of.
Just wanted to chime in. When I was a casino operater there were a couple of problems with sending out presents. First off since we were out of the country for our players, when we wanted to send them gifts we had to use a "third party", and we did not always feel safe putting our customer list in a third parties hands. Last year we sent Thanksgiving centerpieces to a number of our customers. 50% of the players who got them were upset for sending stuff to their house. About 25% were upset that the flowers only cost 100.00 and they felt they deserved more, and another 10% said they would rather of had us deposit the money in their casino account, the last 15% we never heard from if they liked it our not. All in all it was not worth sending the gifts out.
For Christmas I gave all of my VIP customers 25% cashback on their losses for the year. This went over very well but it took me 36 hours to review each account and credit it.
So when you wonder why some casinos don't give out gifts , there are some difficult circumstances that players are not always aware of.
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phynqster said:
That is frigging brilliant though! If someone did that to me, i'd be made up.
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Wow..that's awesome.
((((((Paging Ed W and Pat H))))))
Na..J/K
They're already genorous to me.
((((((Paging Ed W and Pat H))))))
Na..J/K
They're already genorous to me.
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phynqster said:
So it's not just me who doesn't like getting casino stuff mailed to my home. I got a Xmas card from Geisha Lounge even though they'd promised not to send me any postal mail. Just made me irritated. Makes me feel like they don't listen to individuals, I'm just a number in their customer database.
Casinos please, oh please, don't send me flowers
Wow:notworthy ..any casino operators out there willing to give me 25% cashback please contact me ASAP and you'll have a customer and free PR agent for life!
On the contrary, it's really easy for a casino to give out gifts, here's a tip: No flowers, just a cash bonus in the account, even a small one will do thank you very much
Cheers,
SM
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As I occasionally use bonuses 
this is my 2c on this issue..
I agree with all those above who complain about the lack of 'loyalty' bonuses after the initial sign up.
Maybe I am just being a simpleton, but I simply can not understand the difference to the casino in giving a 100% match bonus to new players, and giving the same bonus to existing players each month (like Intercasino).
In fact, giving them to existing players is actually more sensible because once a player has an active account set up their is very little overhead for the casino in managing the account (no checking for fraud, ID, credit card integrity, etc..)
The way most places operate today actively encourages people to jump from place to place & sign up with new casinos every month (and I should know! ). I would much rather have just a handful of casinos I go back to month after month, but while I can get a better deal signing up at a new one than returning to the same place... well it's not really a choice, is it?
32Red & Spin Palace are perfect examples - I go back to these places month after month because they give me a 100% match every time. OK, they are pretty small bonuses in $ terms, but still at least 80% higher than most MG's seem to be offering.
When I look at my log, I see I am actually well in the red with both these places, but I will continue to happily go back to them repeatedly because at least they are offering a decent incentive - and a chance of maybe one day getting into the black...
this is my 2c on this issue..I agree with all those above who complain about the lack of 'loyalty' bonuses after the initial sign up.
Maybe I am just being a simpleton, but I simply can not understand the difference to the casino in giving a 100% match bonus to new players, and giving the same bonus to existing players each month (like Intercasino).
In fact, giving them to existing players is actually more sensible because once a player has an active account set up their is very little overhead for the casino in managing the account (no checking for fraud, ID, credit card integrity, etc..)
The way most places operate today actively encourages people to jump from place to place & sign up with new casinos every month (and I should know!
). I would much rather have just a handful of casinos I go back to month after month, but while I can get a better deal signing up at a new one than returning to the same place... well it's not really a choice, is it?32Red & Spin Palace are perfect examples - I go back to these places month after month because they give me a 100% match every time. OK, they are pretty small bonuses in $ terms, but still at least 80% higher than most MG's seem to be offering.
When I look at my log, I see I am actually well in the red with both these places, but I will continue to happily go back to them repeatedly because at least they are offering a decent incentive - and a chance of maybe one day getting into the black...
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I guess the trick is to become an affiliate and get the 25% back on other people's lossesSlotmachine said:
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Vesuvio said:I guess the trick is to become an affiliate and get the 25% back on other people's losses
I wonder if 32Red would have me as an affiliate playing through my own affiliate account
25% is a lot. Is that really what affiliates get? Damn, that must amount to a pretty decent income..
Cheers,
SM
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Maybe the ones who missed us all for Xmas will come through on New Year's? HA....well, a girl can hope can't she? 
After all said and done, I just realized 1 thing.
I HATE YOU GUYS!!! ... j/k
I didn't get anything at all for a very long time now. I used to play at InterCasino a lot, then I moved on to iNetBet, later to 888.com and then now I'm starting to play at 32Red but I got NOTHING from them at all. Totally NOTHING, ZIP, NIL, NADA.
Nobody gave me anything this Christmas or New Year.
The only thing I got from iNetBet is the same thing everyone else gets. $10. So darn frustrating. Hearing all the stories and etc, I'm really really jealous about the FREE money and etc that you guys get.
WHY DO I GET NOTHING??? I want something tooooooooooooo!!!!
I HATE YOU GUYS!!! ... j/k
I didn't get anything at all for a very long time now. I used to play at InterCasino a lot, then I moved on to iNetBet, later to 888.com and then now I'm starting to play at 32Red but I got NOTHING from them at all. Totally NOTHING, ZIP, NIL, NADA.
Nobody gave me anything this Christmas or New Year.
The only thing I got from iNetBet is the same thing everyone else gets. $10. So darn frustrating. Hearing all the stories and etc, I'm really really jealous about the FREE money and etc that you guys get.
WHY DO I GET NOTHING??? I want something tooooooooooooo!!!!
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Online casinos were cheap this year! The land based casino near me sent free money, a hotel stay and 2 dinners!
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I've been so disappointed with these all places this year. Seems they are getting more and more greedy.
Oh well!
Spin Palace (where I play the most) - NADA!!!
Ruby Fortune (2nd most) - NADA!
Piggs Peak - $100.00 (where I should play more often, obviously!)
Let's all wish for a better year in 2006!
Oh well!
Spin Palace (where I play the most) - NADA!!!
Ruby Fortune (2nd most) - NADA!
Piggs Peak - $100.00
(where I should play more often, obviously!) Let's all wish for a better year in 2006!
GrandMaster
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You should have asked people if they are happy to receive your gift. not everyone wants to advertise that he is involved in online gambling. This year one casino asked me if I would like to receive a Christmas hamper, which I thought was very professional, but unfortunately, Christmas is gone but there is no sign of the hamper.phynqster said:
Those who complained that the flowers were not expensive enough are just whiners.
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aodat2 said:After all said and done, I just realized 1 thing.
I HATE YOU GUYS!!! ... j/k
I didn't get anything at all for a very long time now. I used to play at InterCasino a lot, then I moved on to iNetBet, later to 888.com and then now I'm starting to play at 32Red but I got NOTHING from them at all. Totally NOTHING, ZIP, NIL, NADA.
Nobody gave me anything this Christmas or New Year.
32Red was the only one that gave me a Xmas present. I've played there consistenly for over a year, so maybe the Casinos want to see long-term loyalty before showering
you with gifts. Maybe because you moved from one casino to another, that's why you didn't get any gifts from any of them. I don't know that this is the case, but it might be that the casinos are looking to reward the long-term loyal players.Cheers,
SM
QUOTE: You should have asked people if they are happy to receive your gift.UNQUOTE
Grandmaster highlights an important point here - the attitude of some managements shows little or no regard for what the player really wants...and whether or not he or she wants to receive it at home (or maybe even the office!)
It seems that managers have in many cases not yet learned to consider a proposed initiative from both the business and consumer perspective ie "How will my customers react to this? Is this what they really want? Is that do-able?" I suspect there would be far less hassle if they did.
This thread might prove a useful indicator to casinos as to the sort of gift that players prefer (it looks as if it might be a straightforward, minimum strings attached playing bonus, which is probably easier for the casino to put together anyway.
Grandmaster highlights an important point here - the attitude of some managements shows little or no regard for what the player really wants...and whether or not he or she wants to receive it at home (or maybe even the office!)
It seems that managers have in many cases not yet learned to consider a proposed initiative from both the business and consumer perspective ie "How will my customers react to this? Is this what they really want? Is that do-able?" I suspect there would be far less hassle if they did.
This thread might prove a useful indicator to casinos as to the sort of gift that players prefer (it looks as if it might be a straightforward, minimum strings attached playing bonus, which is probably easier for the casino to put together anyway.
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jetset said:
I agree completely with Jetset and Grandmaster, and I'd wager that >90% of us would just prefer to get a minimum WR free chip in the account. It would be so easy for Casino operators to find out what makes their customers tick - just send an e-mail questionnaire.
I mean really, how many of you actually get positive rather than negative vibes from receiving an Xmas card to your home from an online Casino? Or a bunch of flowers
? How about a poll right here at Casimomeister?
Cheers,
SM
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I agree with the just crediting accounts, but having come from a large bonus casino throwing a little more into someones account dosen't really amount to much. What"s the real difference between gambling 1k or 1.5 if you pretty much play it out the same day? That is why we wanted to give a physical gift, so it would be something a player would remember and not just play it without hesitating.
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I agree with you guys wholeheartedly....would much prefer even a small token gesture over something delivered to my home. Even a $20 chip with minimal wagering requirements, just something to say that we recognize and appreciate your patronage throughout the year. I feel the same way about my birthday. It doesn't have to be alot, just something. And that is why 32Red has it all over the rest of the casinos that I play at. Accessibility and recognition...not that much to ask for really.
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phynqster said:
It's a nice idea, I'll give you that
However, the reality of the matter seems to be something else. Gamblers are gamblers, and it's not immediately obvious how a bunch of flowers could be gambled, although I'm sure it can be done Cheers,
SM
