DEAD or Alive. How cold can it get?

[Dagobert]

I have been playing this thing for years. Having hit both wildline and 5 scatters.

Now I have played 5-6000 spins at Dragonara. I have hit feature 13-14 times only! The first 2200 spins gave only 4 features. NO 5OAK shot glas or higher! Ate 4-500 euro on 0,45 and 0.90.

It has now eaten another 4-500 euro on 0.45 and 0.90. Still no 5OAK hats or up... Extremely rare features. None of the features have payed anything.

Anybody think this is the worst it gets or have you experienced worse?

PS: I still kinda love it..

 

[CasinoTwitcher]

Now I have played 5-6000 spins at Dragonara. I have hit feature 13-14 times only! The first 2200 spins gave only 4 features. NO 5OAK shot glas or higher! Ate 4-500 euro on 0,45 and 0.90.

It has now eaten another 4-500 euro on 0.45 and 0.90. Still no 5OAK hats or up... Extremely rare features. None of the features have payed anything.

Let’s say you have 6000 spins at an average bet of €0.72 that means you have wagered €4.320. If you lost about €400 as you said, that gives a RTP of 90.74% - So you are not that far away from the set RTP set for that game, which is 96.8%

I would say, unless you hit any bonuses with a lot of wilds, you can't expect much more from it.

 

[citizenx]

I have been playing this thing for years. Having hit both wildline and 5 scatters.

Now I have played 5-6000 spins at Dragonara. I have hit feature 13-14 times only! The first 2200 spins gave only 4 features. NO 5OAK shot glas or higher! Ate 4-500 euro on 0,45 and 0.90.

It has now eaten another 4-500 euro on 0.45 and 0.90. Still no 5OAK hats or up... Extremely rare features. None of the features have payed anything.

Anybody think this is the worst it gets or have you experienced worse?

PS: I still kinda love it..

In the last three months of 2014, It seems pretty good - got loads of features and 5OAK numerous times - around Christmas i even got a handful of free spins on Leovegas and turned them (after wagering) into a £150 ish withdrawal (tend to play 18p a pop). Since the start of the year though it has been truly awful for me.

I've genuinely began to wonder if there is something "throttle" on its central servers which say, effectively, "you've won enough for now". I KNOW the games are meant to be random but the contrast is so stark that I can't account for it in my own head by the random nature of luck.

That said, I'm not one for conspiracies but its a cross platform, cross site issue for me and just feels odd.

 

[Dagobert]

Let’s say you have 6000 spins at an average bet of €0.72 that means you have wagered €4.320. If you lost about €400 as you said, that gives a RTP of 90.74% - So you are not that far away from the set RTP set for that game, which is 96.8%

I would say, unless you hit any bonuses with a lot of wilds, you can't expect much more from it.

That math was not very good I have lost about 900-1100 euro. Not 400. And mostly on 0.45.

So the numbers are not that positive

 

[CasinoTwitcher]

That math was not very good I have lost about 900-1100 euro. Not 400. And mostly on 0.45.

So the numbers are not that positive

Well, you provided those numbers:

Now I have played 5-6000 spins at Dragonara. I have hit feature 13-14 times only! The first 2200 spins gave only 4 features. NO 5OAK shot glas or higher! Ate 4-500 euro on 0,45 and 0.90.

I just took €0.72 a spin as an average since you were so vague. Any way, if you want to complain about payout, accurate numbers should be provided

 

[size55]

I am still struggling to get my first wildline on doa but I actually experienced something similar. I always play doa on auto spins and I dont give really attention on the wins in the base game. Sometimes I can run this slot for hours on auto spins( on almost same balance) and there are some days where I always hit only 2 scatters and I really can feel how it is eating my bankroll.

 

[Dagobert]

I have been playing this thing for years. Having hit both wildline and 5 scatters.

Now I have played 5-6000 spins at Dragonara. I have hit feature 13-14 times only! The first 2200 spins gave only 4 features. NO 5OAK shot glas or higher! Ate 4-500 euro on 0,45 and 0.90.

It has now eaten another 4-500 euro on 0.45 and 0.90. Still no 5OAK hats or up... Extremely rare features. None of the features have payed anything.

Anybody think this is the worst it gets or have you experienced worse?

PS: I still kinda love it..

I think I mentioned it
But thanks for reply

 

[Jono777]

You could probably write this thread about any game and yep hands up I've been guilty of thinking the same in the past, especially after prior fair treatment by the game.

However I do think they run in cycles after extensive play you do notice patterns which you see again and again and then all of a sudden these patterns totally go and new ones emerge.

As for DOA, yesterday I was low rolling at 9p and 18p bets and FOUR times during my features I was ONE off a completed wild line, you can imaging the comments I was throwing at the screen!!

The final feature before busting (after 3 hours play tho so not bad or moaning lol) gave me 4 wilds on a win line with 8 spins left, meaning I was guaranteed at least 8x5OAK which was cool, but It would have been miles better in those 8 spins if the 'final wild' had dropped

I also hit £136.00 (or therabouts) with no wild line last week on just 9p a bet!!

I'm sure your luck will return as I also am starting to believe finally that nothing has been tampered with etc, its just the way these games are designed

I have also managed over 500 spins on min bet with no bonus at all, more than once

 

[loren]

Say uncle

I think this is one of those games where it is better to "say uncle",sooner than later...
I'm not seeing any brownie points for going down with your ship!
This game has paid me more than almost all others...but it's unforgiving nature is sure
there....if you want to persist.
To me when I open it up and its serving me up 'a dogs breakfast'...nothing is connecting,I found it best to go to some other game or just walk away,if it starts to open up with things going my way,I may up the ante.I try to watch as I'm waiting to see 5 outlaws on one line in the regular game..
anyway,everybody is different.Good luck to ya!

 

[psychogene]

I play this game fairly regularly but I don't usually do more than 100 spins unless I have hit a bonus round prior. It has never been a great slot for me at best its been 'OK'.

I have only in about 4 months of playing DOA ever gotten to the second stage of the bonus rounds twice and the first time that happened was on my very first bonus round in this game. I still have never gotten 5 wildlines in bonus round, my typical bonus round consists of one or two sticky wilds that like to present themselves in non payout positions of reel 4 and 5 lol. I would love nothing more than to have 5 wildlines ala all the great pictures that you see in winners screenshot section but this game is so volatile but strangely addictive.

I have had times I've gone from $1 to $30 playing minimum stake so I usually play this slot when I am about to go down on a sinking ship.

I think JonMincher is right though, when you play slots regularly it feels that wins and losts come in cycles even though its probably not the case. Last week I felt like I couldn't lost, everywhere I was playing I was making withdrawals but this week its back down to earth as all my small deposits have been usually busts. Boom bust cycle I guess ehehe.

 

[Dagobert]

Update

Finally hit a feature for 500x. 2 Lines with 4 wilds And 5 extra spins.

Ended up On piggy riches And hit the feature after accedentially hitting 3 euro bet. Selected 5x 9 spins
and hit 5 piggys with a wild. Cashed out 980 euro.

Even Steven

 

[dunover]

That's why I call it 'Dead Or Nearly Alive'.

 

[randomiam]

its just mad

i had the 5 scatters twice in one week .that's rare same place same bet i think i can upload the pics if you like it can chew alot i play it on 27 3x9
had 1000 spins no feature had 8 features in 250 spins after i long drain and i mean drain it pays a good feature to hit its rtp might be tin foil hat thou
keep your bet low its more the amount of spins you can get in for your start balance the better at 27c spins start with $100 at least

 

[Nicola]

Mixed weekend so far playing DoA.

Initial deposit of €100.00 on two casinos and have been running them continuously on auto play since Friday night and in profit on both. Hit 5 scatters on Friday night on a 0.36 bet (€900.00).

Very clear, that the slot turns very cold at times - hours and hours of no bonuses and continuous losses. 3AM until 5AM seems particularly bad during the past few sessions.

 

[chuchu59]

The old saying 'For every person that makes a fortune there are others who lose their shirts'. Well, something like that holds true. How else will there be screenshots shown of monster hits produced with alarming regularity from some members. Its the same with RTG random jackpots. Some people have never hit a single one whereas some have hit them several times already. These things wont necessarily even out in the long run unless you live up to a very ripe age of 300 years. We all hope of getting 5 sticky wilds in DOA but sadly if it doesnt happen it doesnt and it could be futile chasing them. Just for the sake of seeking this pleasure I suggest playing each spin at $0.09. That way, if you cant make it after 20-30k spins you wont be too much out of pocket.

 

[size55]

It is really doubtful because I had yesterday a session where I just hit about every 50 spins the feature and then suddenly it turns really cold what caused no features for alot of spins.
So where is the randomness ? I would understand it if I hit the feature the first time in about 50 spins but not for a longer period ?

 

[Jono777]

that's exactly how it was playing for me yesterday too!

Big thing with these games is when to 'move on' very difficult granted I agree but with experience of regular play you get the feel and to be honest once you've closed th game we will never know!

I don't play for wild line or 5 scatters every session just a half decent feature.

Yesterdays session I was 'one off' a complete wild line 3 features on the trot over 150 or so spins, the last paid £65 on 0.18p, after this the scatters stopped showing altogether for over 50 spins and very little else so that's when I quit and how I usually 'govern' my play.

 

[psychogene]

DOA is frustrating to say the least.

Was playing at energy casino today, after losing quite a few deposits at novomatic slots decided to finish up playing DOA when I had like $3 left. The game was really playing up though for some strange reason.

Playing at minimum stake hit the feature within 5-10 spins but during the bonus round it kept saying the game was unavailable and back out I went. Loaded it back up to continue the bonus round and every couple of spins or so in the free feature it would say the game is unavailable. Finally finished the feature and won crap all. Then back to base game and hit the feature again after like 5-10 spins .... game was 'unavailable' during free spin. Though I had to reload the game I would always finish the free spins. Anyway sharing this because it was weird and wonder if anyone else experienced it too about 4-5 hours ago.

So I kid you not I got the free spin feature about 5 times in a space of 50 spins. Did not win crap all though during the free spins. Went from $3 to $10 before the game decided to not give me anymore free rounds and busted as per usual Was hoping this malfunctioning would continue so even if my wins were void as long as I kept getting free spins every 10 spins or so I would have eventually landed a 5-wild line in free spin even if it took me like 100 goes hehe ... ah wells!

Still was a really weird experience playing DOA and hitting free spins so frequently in a short space but to bad the game was kind of malfunctioning with its 'game is unavailable' messages.

 

[DepositSpinLose]

how's this for cold?

I have made at least 180 deposit of $50, $75, $100 vith a few $25 at 4 different casinos to play mostly dead or alive, also reel steal in the last 14 months, and have only had one cashout of $375. That one win is the highest I got up to in 14 months, 95% of the times I never got over $200. 90% of my deposits go to doa with spins 90 cents and lower, mostly 45 cents.

I won 5 scatters in latter part of 2013 for $2250 but frig its been a long time and lots of money spent since then. my luck sucks with this game.

 

[xxshepxx]

I've played this for over 2 years.

Continual deposits, more spins than I care to count, and not had a wildline,

I usually play 27,36,45p I once lost £300 on 45p spins without a bonus round.

 

[Mouche12]

Finally hit a feature for 500x. 2 Lines with 4 wilds And 5 extra spins.

Ended up On piggy riches And hit the feature after accedentially hitting 3 euro bet. Selected 5x 9 spins
and hit 5 piggys with a wild. Cashed out 980 euro.

Even Steven

Love to see that screenie! Sorry for derailing, but my game is, and probably always will be, Piggy Riches!

 

[asadzareef89]

Love to see that screenie! Sorry for derailing, but my game is, and probably always will be, Piggy Riches!

Since that's ur fav game, what fs do u choose as i always choose x3 multiplier but never ever get more than 60-70x and i play this game almost daily(Never seem to be cold on giving fs which are quite regular). My best ever win was 400x in base game with the highest symbol with a wild.

On DOA you cant except to win in 100 spins on this game as i have noticed, you need to do good 1000-2000 spins b4 it will throw a good bonus round, cold streak is quite frequent but it can also give 5-6 rounds in a very short time

Just today i had what u call a cold streak on doa when it went 400 spins without a bonus than a bonus gave 5x but after another 250 spins i got a beauty, not a wildline but 800x at betat. Same thing happened yesterday when it went 2000+ spins but than gave me a 400x.

Good thing is if u bet low it keeps your balance in check and i always bet 0.18-0.27 whereas when i started at this game couple of years ago used to bet 0.9 or if low balance 0.45 but i learnt the hard way. it will give you return but would take a whole lot more spins than your average slots

I played a whole year at betsafe and made around atleast 30 wd(in 2012) but never won anything on doa, only a 200x in base game but nothing else which i later realised was because of my high bet i was spinning a lot less than i do on it now

If still wanna know how to really crack this slot, pm rolastan lol, this slot hasnt ever beaten him i think

Also If u wanna see how cold a slot can really get, play raging rhino, its one slot that is so hard to trigger and then it will give u the classic 10x

 

[size55]

I have to be careful because I always get influenced by the screenshots in the winner section where you always see that big wins from doa. I've never hit a really good one(my biggest hit was about 100 Euro on a 0.18 bet what is really nothing special on this one). So I really dont know if it even makes sense to continue with low bets like 0.18 or 0.27 when I just loose even more money

 

[asadzareef89]

I have to be careful because I always get influenced by the screenshots in the winner section where you always see that big wins from doa. I've never hit a really good one(my biggest hit was about 100 Euro on a 0.18 bet what is really nothing special on this one). So I really dont know if it even makes sense to continue with low bets like 0.18 or 0.27 when I just loose even more money

By increasing your bet/spin you are not increasing your chances of a big hit per spin, also you can easily win 500-600 on 0.18p on this slot so if u r down by 100 you can get back up easily

When people keep saying bet low on this slot, they say so to give you maximum chance of having a brilliant bonus round, i remember around a year ago there was a thread about doa statistics where some one calculated that average wildline bonus round comes every 136-150 bonus rounds approx

I mean you can have a round with 10 wilds but not on a line or indeed a wild on each reel with not even 100x which i experienced today at betat

So really the lower the bet, the more number of spins so you maximise you chance of getting a wildline

Below is the screenshot of my nighmares

 

[SpinUk]

By increasing your bet/spin you are not increasing your chances of a big hit per spin, also you can easily win 500-600 on 0.18p on this slot so if u r down by 100 you can get back up easily

When people keep saying bet low on this slot, they say so to give you maximum chance of having a brilliant bonus round, i remember around a year ago there was a thread about doa statistics where some one calculated that average wildline bonus round comes every 136-150 bonus rounds approx

I mean you can have a round with 10 wilds but not on a line or indeed a wild on each reel with not even 100x which i experienced today at betat

So really the lower the bet, the more number of spins so you maximise you chance of getting a wildline

Below is the screenshot of my nighmares

If its any consolation I hit my first wild line for 762 (you may not believe that but trust me its true)bonus rounds at 18p this evening. Paid circa 2400x stake. On the other hand, I had two 5 scatters and one wild line on 45p in the space of 5 days previously back in November. THATS how the variance works on this game.