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DEAD or Alive. How cold can it get?

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by Dagobert, Feb 18, 2015.

    Feb 18, 2015
  1. Dagobert

    Dagobert Senior Member PABnononaccred PABnonaccred

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    It
    Location:
    Norway
    I have been playing this thing for years. Having hit both wildline and 5 scatters.

    Now I have played 5-6000 spins at Dragonara. I have hit feature 13-14 times only! The first 2200 spins gave only 4 features. NO 5OAK shot glas or higher! Ate 4-500 euro on 0,45 and 0.90.

    It has now eaten another 4-500 euro on 0.45 and 0.90. Still no 5OAK hats or up... Extremely rare features. None of the features have payed anything.

    Anybody think this is the worst it gets or have you experienced worse?

    PS: I still kinda love it..
     
  2. Feb 18, 2015
  3. CasinoTwitcher

    CasinoTwitcher Senior Member

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    Las Vegas
    Let’s say you have 6000 spins at an average bet of €0.72 that means you have wagered €4.320. If you lost about €400 as you said, that gives a RTP of 90.74% - So you are not that far away from the set RTP set for that game, which is 96.8%

    I would say, unless you hit any bonuses with a lot of wilds, you can't expect much more from it.
     
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  4. Feb 18, 2015
  5. citizenx

    citizenx Meister Member MM

    Occupation:
    Stuff
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    UK
    In the last three months of 2014, It seems pretty good - got loads of features and 5OAK numerous times - around Christmas i even got a handful of free spins on Leovegas and turned them (after wagering) into a £150 ish withdrawal (tend to play 18p a pop). Since the start of the year though it has been truly awful for me.

    I've genuinely began to wonder if there is something "throttle" on its central servers which say, effectively, "you've won enough for now". I KNOW the games are meant to be random but the contrast is so stark that I can't account for it in my own head by the random nature of luck.

    That said, I'm not one for conspiracies but its a cross platform, cross site issue for me and just feels odd.
     
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  6. Feb 18, 2015
  7. Dagobert

    Dagobert Senior Member PABnononaccred PABnonaccred

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    That math was not very good:) I have lost about 900-1100 euro. Not 400. And mostly on 0.45.

    So the numbers are not that positive:)
     
  8. Feb 18, 2015
  9. CasinoTwitcher

    CasinoTwitcher Senior Member

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    Las Vegas
    Well, you provided those numbers:

    I just took €0.72 a spin as an average since you were so vague. Any way, if you want to complain about payout, accurate numbers should be provided ;)
     
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  10. Feb 18, 2015
  11. size55

    size55 Non-Gambler

    Occupation:
    working
    Location:
    Deutschland
    I am still struggling to get my first wildline on doa but I actually experienced something similar. I always play doa on auto spins and I dont give really attention on the wins in the base game. Sometimes I can run this slot for hours on auto spins( on almost same balance) and there are some days where I always hit only 2 scatters and I really can feel how it is eating my bankroll.
     
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  12. Feb 18, 2015
  13. Dagobert

    Dagobert Senior Member PABnononaccred PABnonaccred

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    Norway
    I think I mentioned it:)
    But thanks for reply:)
     
  14. Feb 18, 2015
  15. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Wolverhampton
    You could probably write this thread about any game and yep hands up I've been guilty of thinking the same in the past, especially after prior fair treatment by the game.

    However I do think they run in cycles after extensive play you do notice patterns which you see again and again and then all of a sudden these patterns totally go and new ones emerge.

    As for DOA, yesterday I was low rolling at 9p and 18p bets and FOUR times during my features I was ONE off a completed wild line, you can imaging the comments I was throwing at the screen!!

    The final feature before busting (after 3 hours play tho so not bad or moaning lol) gave me 4 wilds on a win line with 8 spins left, meaning I was guaranteed at least 8x5OAK which was cool, but It would have been miles better in those 8 spins if the 'final wild' had dropped :(

    I also hit £136.00 (or therabouts) with no wild line last week on just 9p a bet!!

    I'm sure your luck will return as I also am starting to believe finally that nothing has been tampered with etc, its just the way these games are designed

    I have also managed over 500 spins on min bet with no bonus at all, more than once :p
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2015
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  16. Feb 19, 2015
  17. loren

    loren Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    wild crafter/but I'm almoust good enough a video p
    Location:
    vancouver island
    Say uncle

    I think this is one of those games where it is better to "say uncle",sooner than later...
    I'm not seeing any brownie points for going down with your ship!
    This game has paid me more than almost all others...but it's unforgiving nature is sure
    there....if you want to persist.
    To me when I open it up and its serving me up 'a dogs breakfast'...nothing is connecting,I found it best to go to some other game or just walk away,if it starts to open up with things going my way,I may up the ante.I try to watch as I'm waiting to see 5 outlaws on one line in the regular game..
    anyway,everybody is different.Good luck to ya!
     
  18. Feb 19, 2015
  19. psychogene

    psychogene Senior Member

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    This and That
    Location:
    Australia
    I play this game fairly regularly but I don't usually do more than 100 spins unless I have hit a bonus round prior. It has never been a great slot for me at best its been 'OK'.

    I have only in about 4 months of playing DOA ever gotten to the second stage of the bonus rounds twice and the first time that happened was on my very first bonus round in this game. I still have never gotten 5 wildlines in bonus round, my typical bonus round consists of one or two sticky wilds that like to present themselves in non payout positions of reel 4 and 5 lol. I would love nothing more than to have 5 wildlines ala all the great pictures that you see in winners screenshot section but this game is so volatile but strangely addictive.

    I have had times I've gone from $1 to $30 playing minimum stake so I usually play this slot when I am about to go down on a sinking ship.

    I think JonMincher is right though, when you play slots regularly it feels that wins and losts come in cycles even though its probably not the case. Last week I felt like I couldn't lost, everywhere I was playing I was making withdrawals but this week its back down to earth as all my small deposits have been usually busts. Boom bust cycle I guess ehehe.
     
  20. Feb 21, 2015
  21. Dagobert

    Dagobert Senior Member PABnononaccred PABnonaccred

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    Location:
    Norway
    Update

    Finally hit a feature for 500x. 2 Lines with 4 wilds And 5 extra spins.

    Ended up On piggy riches And hit the feature after accedentially hitting 3 euro bet. Selected 5x 9 spins
    and hit 5 piggys with a wild. Cashed out 980 euro.

    Even Steven:)
     
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  22. Feb 21, 2015
  23. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    That's why I call it 'Dead Or Nearly Alive'.
     
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  24. Feb 21, 2015
  25. randomiam

    randomiam Meister Member

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    Location:
    australia
    its just mad

    i had the 5 scatters twice in one week .that's rare same place same bet i think i can upload the pics if you like it can chew alot i play it on 27 3x9
    had 1000 spins no feature had 8 features in 250 spins after i long drain and i mean drain it pays a good feature to hit its rtp might be tin foil hat thou
    keep your bet low its more the amount of spins you can get in for your start balance the better at 27c spins start with $100 at least
     
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  26. Feb 22, 2015
  27. Nicola

    Nicola Casino Affiliate MM mm1 webmeister

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    Green Park, London
    Mixed weekend so far playing DoA.

    Initial deposit of €100.00 on two casinos and have been running them continuously on auto play since Friday night and in profit on both. Hit 5 scatters on Friday night on a 0.36 bet (€900.00).

    Very clear, that the slot turns very cold at times - hours and hours of no bonuses and continuous losses. 3AM until 5AM seems particularly bad during the past few sessions.
     
  28. Feb 22, 2015
  29. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    EXECUTIVE
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    SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
    The old saying 'For every person that makes a fortune there are others who lose their shirts'. Well, something like that holds true. How else will there be screenshots shown of monster hits produced with alarming regularity from some members. Its the same with RTG random jackpots. Some people have never hit a single one whereas some have hit them several times already. These things wont necessarily even out in the long run unless you live up to a very ripe age of 300 years. We all hope of getting 5 sticky wilds in DOA but sadly if it doesnt happen it doesnt and it could be futile chasing them. Just for the sake of seeking this pleasure I suggest playing each spin at $0.09. That way, if you cant make it after 20-30k spins you wont be too much out of pocket.
     
  30. Feb 22, 2015
  31. size55

    size55 Non-Gambler

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    working
    Location:
    Deutschland
    It is really doubtful because I had yesterday a session where I just hit about every 50 spins the feature and then suddenly it turns really cold what caused no features for alot of spins.
    So where is the randomness ? I would understand it if I hit the feature the first time in about 50 spins but not for a longer period ?:confused:
     
  32. Feb 22, 2015
  33. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Wolverhampton
    that's exactly how it was playing for me yesterday too!

    Big thing with these games is when to 'move on' very difficult granted I agree but with experience of regular play you get the feel and to be honest once you've closed th game we will never know!

    I don't play for wild line or 5 scatters every session just a half decent feature.

    Yesterdays session I was 'one off' a complete wild line 3 features on the trot over 150 or so spins, the last paid £65 on 0.18p, after this the scatters stopped showing altogether for over 50 spins and very little else so that's when I quit and how I usually 'govern' my play.
     
  34. Feb 23, 2015
  35. psychogene

    psychogene Senior Member

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    This and That
    Location:
    Australia
    DOA is frustrating to say the least.

    Was playing at energy casino today, after losing quite a few deposits at novomatic slots decided to finish up playing DOA when I had like $3 left. The game was really playing up though for some strange reason.

    Playing at minimum stake hit the feature within 5-10 spins but during the bonus round it kept saying the game was unavailable and back out I went. Loaded it back up to continue the bonus round and every couple of spins or so in the free feature it would say the game is unavailable. Finally finished the feature and won crap all. Then back to base game and hit the feature again after like 5-10 spins .... game was 'unavailable' during free spin. Though I had to reload the game I would always finish the free spins. Anyway sharing this because it was weird and wonder if anyone else experienced it too about 4-5 hours ago.

    So I kid you not I got the free spin feature about 5 times in a space of 50 spins. Did not win crap all though during the free spins. Went from $3 to $10 before the game decided to not give me anymore free rounds and busted as per usual :p Was hoping this malfunctioning would continue so even if my wins were void as long as I kept getting free spins every 10 spins or so I would have eventually landed a 5-wild line in free spin even if it took me like 100 goes hehe ... ah wells!

    Still was a really weird experience playing DOA and hitting free spins so frequently in a short space but to bad the game was kind of malfunctioning with its 'game is unavailable' messages.
     
  36. Feb 23, 2015
  37. DepositSpinLose

    DepositSpinLose Experienced Member

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    british columbia
    how's this for cold?

    I have made at least 180 deposit of $50, $75, $100 vith a few $25 at 4 different casinos to play mostly dead or alive, also reel steal in the last 14 months, and have only had one cashout of $375. That one win is the highest I got up to in 14 months, 95% of the times I never got over $200. 90% of my deposits go to doa with spins 90 cents and lower, mostly 45 cents.

    I won 5 scatters in latter part of 2013 for $2250 but frig its been a long time and lots of money spent since then. my luck sucks with this game.:(
     
  38. Feb 23, 2015
  39. xxshepxx

    xxshepxx Senior Member PABnononaccred MM

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    mechanic
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    I've played this for over 2 years.

    Continual deposits, more spins than I care to count, and not had a wildline,

    I usually play 27,36,45p I once lost £300 on 45p spins without a bonus round.
     

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