Corporate Governance of the United States Explained.

[pinnit2014]

Don't be silly - that's where the Care Bears live.

 

[goatwack]

Don't be silly - that's where the Care Bears live.

Ed's not gonna be happy with you giving away the answer

 

[pinnit2014]

Ed's not gonna be happy with you giving away the answer

Anno - I'll be keeping an eye on my toaster for suspicious activity

 

[goatwack]

Anno - I'll be keeping an eye on my toaster for suspicious activity

Saw Jesus in mine.

Toast

Not the toaster. That would be f***ing ridiculous.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I don't dare ask Ed's views on diesel cars and NOx

They don't cause 'global warming' or 'climate change', but they certainly cause respiratory illnesses and they stink, however, levying a carbon tax on diesel fuel will not help that in the slightest because the carbon tax will be applied to any form of non-renewable energy across the board. Personally, I think diesel engines should be banned from urban areas.

NASA is highly respected here. Read it, don't read it. That's fine, others may find it interesting.

I remember the same ozone thing but afaik that came from European scientists, years later they also said it was shrinking.

NASA was originally staffed by Nazi scientists who were brought to the US by Operation Paperclip after WWII, via the Vatican rat-lines. Respect?

It wouldn't matter to me if the ozone scientists were Chinese, it was still scare tactics, which were scientifically groundless, but huge media coverage makes everyone believe, well all the mugs, at least.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Should have a regular weekly segment: "Ed Answers"

I'll start.

Are clouds made of candy floss?

Yes... next!

 

[syntynyt]

i wonder how many palestinians are left considering the recent usa stunt to move the embassy, a great occassion for the brave israeli soldiers to kill another lot of dangerous border protesters that used slingshots and burned tires as a smoke defense against the latest weaponry made in the usa and sent to israel to fight imaginary enemies and to slowly fulfill the 'final solution, killing whatever palestinian is left and assuming their whole land. im following this silently approved genocide for years, and all i see is usa blocking every attempt of justice for that people and whats worse is that president Trump being even more supportive and in love with the war criminal netanyahu which was officially condemned by international war tribunal in 2013. usa is regarded as a friend by israel more than an ally, a friend in crime. is not like many will read my post, but if you do look it up into the latest torture-for-fun of palestinian civilians videos by israeli soldiers, the media is very selective when reports anthing related to israel and comments are highly moderated, the jews are still regarded as victims and even when they are aggressors it doesnt matter, probably out of all mainstream media only dailymail sometime reports the real situation but again with comments off or moderated. talk about real refugees denied the status for decades. media is indeed the most powerful tool ever created and people dance on whatever song media sees fit, but never, not once, has ever been supportive of the palestinians or they benefited of a worthy coverage, even when goods like basic medicine, drinking water and food were denied access to gaza strip and schools and hospitals were directly hit by rockets. with all said, the friend of israel which is willingly helping the crime and not bothering even covering the fingerprints, is my enemy. i have a burning flame inside of absolute hope that one day iran will potentially use whatever they have to pulverize that place with no prior threat, in the name of the most delayed act of justice in modern times.

 

[Steviedoo]

I found a couple articles, I noticed one says Obama dropped 79% of the bombs and the coalition the rest, but did not list the coalition countries. "His research concluded that the US dropped 79 per cent of all 30,743 coalition bombs in 2016."

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Then there is this one

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If I had my way I'd remove all US troops worldwide, close all foreign US bases, not put a cent in NATO and let the chips fall where they may. I'd spend that money at home.

I know right. Then let everyone else figure it out.

 

[Steviedoo]

This is hilarious now. Probably not the correct thread to put it in, but still, priceless!

Not so hilarious when you think he was helped by the Russians.

 

[TheAddict]

i wonder how many palestinians are left considering the recent usa stunt to move the embassy, a great occassion for the brave israeli soldiers to kill another lot of dangerous border protesters that used slingshots and burned tires as a smoke defense against the latest weaponry made in the usa and sent to israel to fight imaginary enemies and to slowly fulfill the 'final solution, killing whatever palestinian is left and assuming their whole land. im following this silently approved genocide for years, and all i see is usa blocking every attempt of justice for that people and whats worse is that president Trump being even more supportive and in love with the war criminal netanyahu which was officially condemned by international war tribunal in 2013. usa is regarded as a friend by israel more than an ally, a friend in crime. is not like many will read my post, but if you do look it up into the latest torture-for-fun of palestinian civilians videos by israeli soldiers, the media is very selective when reports anthing related to israel and comments are highly moderated, the jews are still regarded as victims and even when they are aggressors it doesnt matter, probably out of all mainstream media only dailymail sometime reports the real situation but again with comments off or moderated. talk about real refugees denied the status for decades. media is indeed the most powerful tool ever created and people dance on whatever song media sees fit, but never, not once, has ever been supportive of the palestinians or they benefited of a worthy coverage, even when goods like basic medicine, drinking water and food were denied access to gaza strip and schools and hospitals were directly hit by rockets. with all said, the friend of israel which is willingly helping the crime and not bothering even covering the fingerprints, is my enemy. i have a burning flame inside of absolute hope that one day iran will potentially use whatever they have to pulverize that place with no prior threat, in the name of the most delayed act of justice in modern times.

Speaking of media, well youtube lol, you reminded me of a channel i sometimes watch videos of. Had to switch on a vpn to be able to view 2 particular videos on the channel since youtube deemed me not worthy as a uk citizen to be allowed to view them.
One was of a recent shooting by the idf, recorded on a phone from behind the fence as an idf soldier had a young man (didnt look over 21) in his cross hairs. He wasnt doing anything, was amongst a few others who were at a similar distance away. He wasnt even facing them when the guy decided to pull the trigger. The lad/man almost somersaults as he gets hit, while the idf member can be heard laughing at how he flew into the air, and then celebrated the hit with his pals as Palestinians rushed to his aid.

The 2nd video, just so happened to be idf members again. A short video of an mother and father being ordered to leave their home, with an ambulance nearby outside. carrying a baby of what looked less than a few years old if even a year old.
They quickly leave the house at a quick pace and dont look back as they flee. One of the idf members decides it would be a good time to throw a grenade towards them, which explodes just metres (at most) behind them. Not sure what type of grenade.
Not expecting it, and running fairly quickly, it was amazing how the father didnt drop the child onto the concrete floor in reaction to the explosion, god knows what would have happened to the baby had it rolled an extra metre or two before exploding.

But yeah, youtube restricted them 2 videos on one particular channel from many countries

 

[syntynyt]

i know the first video, unfortunately is the only that gained a bit of attention. i have discussed the matter as it happened on another forum where more peeps were above the taboo of discussing israel unpunished crimes but you know what, after such a discussion everyone left frustrated, we are too small and powerless, the best one can do is to share and make others aware for the purpose of rummaging with different teeth the next story about victimized israelis and usa caring about whatever people they claim they do. i wish my english skills would permit me to engage in video making as i would use everything that i gained during this never ending genocide for good use to public knowledge. i would definitely start with a glimpse into the protocols 'hoax', for a book written in 1900 is like reading today news, you can;t make this up.

 

[mack341]

Speaking of media, well youtube lol, you reminded me of a channel i sometimes watch videos of. Had to switch on a vpn to be able to view 2 particular videos on the channel since youtube deemed me not worthy as a uk citizen to be allowed to view them.
One was of a recent shooting by the idf, recorded on a phone from behind the fence as an idf soldier had a young man (didnt look over 21) in his cross hairs. He wasnt doing anything, was amongst a few others who were at a similar distance away. He wasnt even facing them when the guy decided to pull the trigger. The lad/man almost somersaults as he gets hit, while the idf member can be heard laughing at how he flew into the air, and then celebrated the hit with his pals as Palestinians rushed to his aid.

The 2nd video, just so happened to be idf members again. A short video of an mother and father being ordered to leave their home, with an ambulance nearby outside. carrying a baby of what looked less than a few years old if even a year old.
They quickly leave the house at a quick pace and dont look back as they flee. One of the idf members decides it would be a good time to throw a grenade towards them, which explodes just metres (at most) behind them. Not sure what type of grenade.
Not expecting it, and running fairly quickly, it was amazing how the father didnt drop the child onto the concrete floor in reaction to the explosion, god knows what would have happened to the baby had it rolled an extra metre or two before exploding.

But yeah, youtube restricted them 2 videos on one particular channel from many countries

These sniper murders are sickening and so sad, I think it is up to the muslim countries in the middle east to put aside their differences and unite to resolve the issues around palestine and israel, Trump is biased on the dispute even more so than previous presidents. Moving the us embassy from the recognized israel capital to occupied territory was infantile diplomacy. As the bloodshed increases year on year, the chance of peace is moving further away and will be impossible to achieve.

 

[ed skull murphy]

These sniper murders are sickening and so sad, I think it is up to the muslim countries in the middle east to put aside their differences and unite to resolve the issues around palestine and israel, Trump is biased on the dispute even more so than previous presidents. Moving the us embassy from the recognized israel capital to occupied territory was infantile diplomacy. As the bloodshed increases year on year, the chance of peace is moving further away and will be impossible to achieve.

Israel and the establishment don't want peace, they want to create a 'Greater Israel', by annexing parts of the neighbouring countries, the 'Yinon Plan'

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[mack341]

Israel and the establishment don't want peace, they want to create a 'Greater Israel', by annexing parts of the neighbouring countries, the 'Yinon Plan'

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I don't think this will ever be possible, it would require too much outside military help from america to pull off; if it is their plan then it is a pipe dream.
Their national security is guaranteed by the US, so they would now be better off making peace with their neighbours.

 

[weesie]

Not so hilarious when you think he was helped by the Russians.

Nope, I refuse to believe that. They have been investigating this story line forever and getting no where. Stick a fork in that one, it is done.

 

[weesie]

Well NASA told us they landed on the moon which is a lie, they told us they have been to Mars, which is laughable. I would be inclined to ignore any information coming from NASA, in fact I can't even be arsed to read the article.

The climate changes constantly, it is perfectly natural. I remember weather like this back in the mid seventies, back then they were blaming it on a hole in the ozone layer, and what a crock of shit that turned out to be.

Between this post, landing on the moon, and your Disney theory, I am seriously beginning to think we are chatting with someone who really needs to chat with donover..... He has a huge supply of tinfoil hats that you may need..... or even a tinfoil body suit.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I don't think this will ever be possible, it would require too much outside military help from america to pull off; if it is their plan then it is a pipe dream.
Their national security is guaranteed by the US, so they would now be better off making peace with their neighbours.

Mack, you've got to cut loose from that mainstream BS, it is holding you back.

This is the plan, when the establishment wants something, it won't stop until it gets it.

Unless we stop them, but I don't see anyone out on the streets brandishing pitchforks at the moment, or any time in the near future.

 

[mack341]

Mack, you've got to cut lose from that mainstream BS, it is holding you back.

This is the plan, when the establishment wants something, it won't stop until it gets it.

Unless we stop them, but I don't see anyone out on the streets brandishing pitchforks at the moment, or any time in the near future.

Ed, I'm very prone to getting frustrated, angry and passionate about issues and injustice so I have to try and be more balanced about things. Recently watching those judy wood videos on youtube and rich hall [who i was starting to like] saying her theory was the only truth about 911, was starting to get me extremely angry but luckily that's gone off now. I think the frustration of slots has helped me accept the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

 

[ed skull murphy]

You know that Shakespeare never wrote any of that stuff? He was a popular actor, but his 'works' were created by a team of literary academics, assembled by Francis Bacon, whose goal it was to create a 'standard english' with a view to it becoming 'a universal language'.

The Rosicrucians were planning a British Empire, and this 'universal language' was to be a useful part of it. I'd say that they have been pretty successful, wouldn't you?

 

[mack341]

You know that Shakespeare never wrote any of that stuff? He was a popular actor, but his 'works' were created by a team of literary academics, assembled by Francis Bacon, whose goal it was to create a 'standard english' with a view to it becoming 'a universal language'.

The Rosicrucians were planning a British Empire, and this 'universal language' was to be a useful part of it. I'd say that they have been pretty successful, wouldn't you?

It wouldn't surprise me, language is a very powerful control tool and probably why the french are desperate their language doesn't disappear and take their culture with it. It is amazing that this little island has had so much influence on the world, through inventions and language etc... [I know we were helped along the way but still probably an unmatched feat of one little nation influencing so many others] america is a bit similar with how they have exported their modern culture to the rest of the world.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Ed, I'm very prone to getting frustrated, angry and passionate about issues and injustice so I have to try and be more balanced about things. Recently watching those judy wood videos on youtube and rich hall [who i was starting to like] saying her theory was the only truth about 911, was starting to get me extremely angry but luckily that's gone off now. I think the frustration of slots has helped me accept the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

And by the way, I never take anything at face value, I'll absorb the info, mull it over, see how it fits in with the other pieces, until slowly the big picture begins to take shape. Some very good researchers have made mistakes in the past, but they will adjust their view as more information emerges and they will correct their errors. As I said before, that Judy Wood business is not terribly important, it is interesting and certainly worth retaining for future reference, but the main point about 911 is what has been achieved by it, and who has benefitted from it, and then there is also the esoteric 'occult' aspect to it.

 

[ed skull murphy]

It wouldn't surprise me, language is a very powerful control tool and probably why the french are desperate their language doesn't disappear and take their culture with it. It is amazing that this little island has had so much influence on the world, through inventions and language etc... [I know we were helped along the way but still probably an unmatched feat of one little nation influencing so many others] america is a bit similar with how they have exported their modern culture to the rest of the world.

Yep, absolutely! Almost like it had all been meticulously planned by a well organised corporate type of structure... oh wait a minute, it was!

 

[mack341]

Yeah I've decided the whole idea of this laughable judy wood character is to gain attention and muddy the waters, so if I ignore her the disinfo operation has failed. If the alternative people ever get close to the truth of an issue, be sure to expect the elites to launch their shill crew, that's all they can do until internet censorship is fully in place.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Yeah I've decided the whole idea of this laughable judy wood character is to gain attention and muddy the waters, so if I ignore her the disinfo operation has failed. If the alternative people ever get close to the truth of an issue, be sure to expect the elites to launch their shill crew, that's all they can do until internet censorship is fully in place.

That's cointelpro in a nutshell, Mack, although my jury is out on whether Judy Wood fits that category. I'll just bear her in mind for future reference, that's good enough for me.

 

[Steviedoo]

Nope, I refuse to believe that. They have been investigating this story line forever and getting no where. Stick a fork in that one, it is done.

Well believe it or not. It’s the truth. What hasn’t been proven is collusion.

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[ed skull murphy]

Well believe it or not. It’s the truth. What hasn’t been proven is collusion.


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[mack341]

Well believe it or not. It’s the truth. What hasn’t been proven is collusion.


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so are you of the view that Trump shouldn't have won the election and that people voted for him essentially on the basis of russian lies about hillary?

 

[mack341]

Just read an article in the new york post about hillary possibly running again in 2020, it could be trump vs clinton the rematch:

"And the day after

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, Clinton introduced a newly minted resistance partner. Called Demand Justice, it promises to protect “reproductive rights, voting rights and access to health care” by keeping Senate Democrats united in opposing any conservative Trump nominee.

The instant, in-house nature of Demand Justice was reflected by the name of its executive director: Brian Fallon, Clinton’s campaign press secretary.

In truth, Fallon’s role doesn’t tell us something we didn’t know. Onward Together, formed in May 2017, is a Clinton 2020 campaign vehicle in waiting.
Its homepage says the group “is dedicated to advancing the vision that earned nearly 66 million votes in the last election.”

Advancing the vision? More like advancing the candidate who collected those votes despite not having a vision.

With the Democratic Party locked in a battle between its far left wing and its far, far left wing, no single leader has emerged to unite it. Clinton is trying to play that role by being a mother hen to the fledgling activists drawn to politics by their hatred of Trump.

If they were active in 2016, they most probably supported Bernie Sanders in his primary challenge to Clinton. But by helping to fund them now, she is putting them in her debt for later.

Ah, but will she need their support later? Is she really going to make a third run for the White House?

Not long ago, I told a group of friends, all liberal Dems, that I believed she was keeping open the possibility of a rematch against Trump, and might already have decided to run.

It was unanimous — they were horrified. “I would not give her a single cent,” one man, formerly a big donor to Clinton, said emphatically.

Their reasons are no surprise: Her moment has passed, she was a terrible candidate and her endless claims of victimhood are tiring rather than inspiring. It’s time to find new blood.

Those assessments are unassailable, and certainly are shared by the 20 or so Dems lining up to take their shot at the nomination.

Moreover, there isn’t any clamoring for another Clinton run in Hollywood or other leftist hotbeds. They want a new blockbuster, not a sequel to failure.

So she’s toast, right? Maybe.

On the other hand, the odds are zero that she is playing community organizer just to be a kingmaker. When it comes to money and power, the Clintons assume charity begins at home.

Here’s how I believe she sees the playing field, and why she can’t be ignored.

First, because there’s no clear front-runner for the nomination 18 months into Trump’s presidency, Clinton remains the closest thing to an incumbent. She’s also got numerous advantages, from name recognition to campaign experience to an off-the-shelf cabinet, that could give her a head start.

Second, a crowded, diverse field diminishes the chances of anyone knocking her off. Recall how Trump outlasted 16 GOP rivals by having a committed core of supporters that grew as the field shrank. Clinton could be in a similar position — unpopular among many, but also unbeatable by a single opponent.

Third, looking ahead to the 2020 primaries, she sees no reason to fear the favorite daughters and sons in key blue states. She would almost certainly beat Sen. Kamala Harris in California, Sen. Cory Booker in New Jersey and Gov. Andrew Cuomo in New York.

And please — forget Sanders and Joe Biden. Sanders is already 76 and Biden, at 75, has never been a viable candidate for president and still isn’t.

Fourth, money is not an issue. Some donors will resist Clinton at first, but any Dem nominee can count on all the money in the world to run against Trump.

To be clear, there are scenarios where Clinton doesn’t run. Health reasons, for example, or a younger rival could rocket to the top of the pack and become the party’s next Barack Obama. Either way, recurring nightmares of two previous defeats would send her back to wandering through the Chappaqua woods.

For now, I am convinced Clinton wants to go for it. Doubters should recall the line about pols who get the presidential itch: There are only two cures — election or death.

Besides, the third time could be the charm."

 

[ed skull murphy]

So she’s toast, right? Maybe.

Yep, she'd be wasting her time and money, no-one is going to vote for that satanic nutcase.

 

[mack341]

Yep, she'd be wasting her time and money, no-one is going to vote for that satanic nutcase.

I think she might run again unless there is another really strong candidate, we are only 16 months away now from the next election. Bloody hell time is going quick.

I wager we will have a general election here in the UK within this time frame too.

"The next general election in the United Kingdom is scheduled to be held on 5 May 2022 under the

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. The election may be held at an earlier date in the event of an

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being passed by a

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in the House of Commons, or a

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in the government which is not followed by a vote of confidence within 14 days."

We will probably end up with a liberal/labour coalition, I can see the headlines now: 'corbyn and cable to form government' Its that or Theresa May, I'm warming to Rees Mogg as he seems to be able to engage in calm, rational debate but I think he's a bit too eccentric for pm, Boris Johnson suffers from verbal diarrhea and is just not solid.

 

[goatwack]

The Cons are spent, there's no way they'll recover from the Brexit fiasco, or cabinet chaos of the last few days.

May will be long- gone by 2022 of course, but the warning signs were already there after the rush-job kamikaze Election called early by May last time, where Corbyn and his bribed student voters took a massive bite out of the Tories' collective ass.

Lord help us all with a LibLab coalition though. We'll all be pining for May before long

 

[mack341]

Don't worry these guys have got your back:

or perhaps you'd prefer

We are truly blessed in this country with our democratic options.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I hate to be a party pooper, but I have never once cast a vote in a general election, I don't even pay any attention to any of that parliamentary nonsense; at the risk of making more enemies than I already have, , it's a bit like watching World Cup football, or observing paint while it is drying - it is all utterly meaningless and irrelevant in my book.

Bear with me, if you will, while I try to explain myself.

Our futures have already long been planned, because these people work to thirty, fifty, one hundred year plans; think tanks around the globe sit and thresh out all possible scenarios for situations that might arise from their projected and desired societal changes.

The job of the incumbent government's cabinet ministers is not to represent our interests, as we have been led to believe, but rather to sell the policies; handed down to them by the establishment; to we the plebs.

Democratic elections are a con trick to prevent the plebs from rioting every five years or so, as we used to do before we had a vote. Instead of getting riled up by the greedy elites, we now vent our anger on the opposing political party... job's a good'un!

 

[paul7388]

Reading this thread makes me wonder who is playing Mulder and who is playing Scully. The truth is out there

 

[goatwack]

I was thinking more Cannon & Ball

 

[ed skull murphy]

Reading this thread makes me wonder who is playing Mulder and who is playing Scully. The truth is out there

Well it may sound a bit 'out there', but how do you think that guys like Aldous Huxley, George Orwell, H.G.Wells, Anthony Burgess, etc., were able to write such accurate prophecies of where we are right now?

They were not predicting the future, they were telling us the plan.

 

[mack341]

I was thinking more Cannon & Ball

rock on tommy

 

[Steviedoo]

so are you of the view that Trump shouldn't have won the election and that people voted for him essentially on the basis of russian lies about hillary?

It’s not my opinion. It’s that of the intelligence community.

Russia interfered in our election process, however they did it. They did it to help mr trump.

 

[Steviedoo]

Yep, she'd be wasting her time and money, no-one is going to vote for that satanic nutcase.

Maybe she’d get more votes this time around. Oh wait she did get more votes.

 

[slotplayer]

so are you of the view that Trump shouldn't have won the election and that people voted for him essentially on the basis of russian lies about hillary?

These are some of the ads Russia ran on FB. I never saw them until now. Some are pro, some anti. Notice the topic and # of likes, etc.

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[mack341]

It’s not my opinion. It’s that of the intelligence community.

Russia interfered in our election process, however they did it. They did it to help mr trump.

do you know of any other countries that interfere in the us elections, or is it just russia?

was this the same intelligence community that stated categorically Saddam has weapons of mass destruction?

Does the US intelligence community try to influence elections in other countries?

 

[slotplayer]

It’s not my opinion. It’s that of the intelligence community.

Russia interfered in our election process, however they did it. They did it to help mr trump.

I think they released the access hollywood video too soon, if you flipped the released date of the access hollywood video with that of the comey press conference reopening the Clinton email investigation she would have won.

 

[mack341]

As far as I can remember, the donors and rich persons lining up behind hillary was much greater than trump and nearly the whole of the mainstream media was pro hillary and anti trump. Hillary had a larger fund to campaign with and yet these few russian adverts on facebook and twitter swung the election in trump's favour?

 

[slotplayer]

do you know of any other countries that interfere in the us elections, or is it just russia?

was this the same intelligence community that stated categorically Saddam has weapons of mass destruction?

Does the US intelligence community try to influence elections in other countries?

plenty of blame to around on that f-up.

"The Chilcot report identifies a series of major blunders by the British intelligence services that produced “flawed” information about Saddam Hussein’s alleged weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), the basis for going to war.

The intelligence community emerges from the report with its reputation and some of its most senior staff badly damaged."

 

[slotplayer]

As far as I can remember, the donors and rich persons lining up behind hillary was much greater than trump and nearly the whole of the mainstream media was pro hillary and anti trump. Hillary had a larger fund to campaign with and yet these few russian adverts on facebook and twitter swung the election in trump's favour?

I'm sure it had some influence.
We'd have to know how many ran, where, how often and compare it to the number of legit ads to measure how much of an impact it actually had.

 

[weesie]

As far as I can remember, the donors and rich persons lining up behind hillary was much greater than trump and nearly the whole of the mainstream media was pro hillary and anti trump. Hillary had a larger fund to campaign with and yet these few russian adverts on facebook and twitter swung the election in trump's favour?

No way! I never saw a single one of those ads. So much bullshit, so little time.

I watched President Trump last night with his supreme court nominee. It was interesting. What I found surprisingly stupid was they had liberal outside the supreme court building protesting.... before they even knew who it was. It doesn't matter to them what is said or what is done..... Trump is wrong, PERIOD.
They need to get a grip, seriously!

 

[mack341]

plenty of blame to around on that f-up.

"The Chilcot report identifies a series of major blunders by the British intelligence services that produced “flawed” information about Saddam Hussein’s alleged weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), the basis for going to war.

The intelligence community emerges from the report with its reputation and some of its most senior staff badly damaged."

So the USA decided go to war with Iraq on the basis of british intelligence? Or was the purpose of the 'flawed' british intelligence to persuade the uk public and labour ministers in the uk who were unsure. At least one million people marched in london to protest against the imminent iraq war. However I am of no doubt our british intelligence services misled the uk and larger international community on the iraq war.

I think for various reasons the US intelligence services, politicians and media are overplaying the effect russia played in the outcome of the US election. You make a very good point, that a comparative analysis has to be carried out to determine the likely amount of influence

 

[slotplayer]

No way! I never saw a single one of those ads. So much bullshit, so little time.

I watched President Trump last night with his supreme court nominee. It was interesting. What I found surprisingly stupid was they had liberal outside the supreme court building protesting.... before they even knew who it was. It doesn't matter to them what is said or what is done..... Trump is wrong, PERIOD.
They need to get a grip, seriously!

Where does all the group think come from?

 

[slotplayer]

So the USA decided go to war with Iraq on the basis of british intelligence? Or was the purpose of the 'flawed' british intelligence to persuade the uk public and labour ministers in the uk who were unsure. At least one million people marched in london to protest against the imminent iraq war. However I am of no doubt our british intelligence services misled the uk and larger international community on the iraq war.

I think for various reasons the US intelligence services, politicians and media are overplaying the effect russia played in the outcome of the US election. You make a very good point, that a comparative analysis has to be carried out to determine the likely amount of influence

Not the basis but a collection of intelligence but I have no idea the truth on anything unless I'm in the room.

part 1 of 3, you'll have to watch the the other parts on youtube if you so desire.

 

[mack341]

I think the 14 seasons trump did on the apprentice show must have had some bearing on him becoming president, there are some articles online that ponder this:

"The Apprentice" put together the best possible version of Trump it could. The "successful businessman" you see is a TV fantasy, and one the show sold well. Editors on the show have described how they stitched together the footage. Trump's role was

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"carefully crafted and manufactured in postproduction to feature a persona of success, leadership, and glamour, despite the raw footage of the reality star that was often 'a disaster.'" Editors claim that on the set, Trump had trouble reciting facts and talked about how he'd like to "drill" female crew members....

Without "The Apprentice" and the carefully curated image of Trump it insinuated into millions of American homes, it's hard to imagine how Trump could have ever sold the American people on his ultimate pitch: becoming president"

I'm not anti trump btw, I'm in the undecided camp but think on balance he was better for the world than Hillary who would have sought to militarily intervene directly in syria and hope russia backed down and withdrew.