Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[electronictonic]

Another in a long line of cancelled experts.




Christian Perronne is a doctor and university professor specializing in tropical pathologies and emerging infectious diseases. During his career, he has chaired many top-level health committees, including the French Specialist Committee for Communicable Diseases, and the High Council on Public Health (HCSP), which advises the government on public health policy and vaccination policy, where he wrote France's vaccination policy for many years.

After he started objecting to many of the French Covid policies from the beginning in March 2020, including lockdowns, suppressed treatments, mandatory masks and the vaccines, calling it "completely stupid" and "unethical", he was fired from his positions, deleted by social media corporation while National Council of the Order of Physicians instigated legal action against him.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Another in a long line of cancelled experts.




Christian Perronne is a doctor and university professor specializing in tropical pathologies and emerging infectious diseases. During his career, he has chaired many top-level health committees, including the French Specialist Committee for Communicable Diseases, and the High Council on Public Health (HCSP), which advises the government on public health policy and vaccination policy, where he wrote France's vaccination policy for many years.

After he started objecting to many of the French Covid policies from the beginning in March 2020, including lockdowns, suppressed treatments, mandatory masks and the vaccines, calling it "completely stupid" and "unethical", he was fired from his positions, deleted by social media corporation while National Council of the Order of Physicians instigated legal action against him.

Some serious claims there about the vaccines being experimental and inflated figures.

Plus, under the Nuremberg Code, no experimental medicines can be made obligatory to the public, and the people responsible can be tried in European Courts. If this does all turn out to be profit-making through fearmongering, I hope to see all responsible put in jail for a very long time, including our joke of a PM, Boris Wrongson.

Remember saying to a pal, who loved the idea of Boris becoming PM because of his hilarious wire stunts and farcical attitude towards democracy, yes he seems like a bit of a laugh and something of a buffoon, is that really what you want running a country?

I want someone who I can look up to and admire as a leader, not this wally.....



I'd like to see him and his entourage in jail for crimes against humanity.

 

[geordiecolin]

A harrowing point made about 6 million now waiting for treatments, or treatment to resume. More will be pushed towards private health care - another nail in the coffin for the NHS and money maker for the selective few.

I suggest that folk look at these figures. Should be headline news but alas- bbc news "107,000 cases".
And Dealer was screamed at!
I had posted the wrong clip

 

[bamberfishcake]

And Dealer was screamed at!

I think it was more how it was said that encouraged dissent.

We've all been taken for fools.

Hopefully, we can move forward as a collective rather than point the finger, fingers should be pointed at the real monster that is the polimedipharma (its a new word - im working on it)

Pharmapolimedia maybe?
Medipharmapolitician?
Pharmediapolitics?

Reckon with a pen and paper there's a decent anagram in there somewhere.

 

[geordiecolin]

I think it was more how it was said that encouraged dissent.

We've all been taken for fools.

Hopefully, we can move forward as a collective rather than point the finger, fingers should be pointed at the real monster that is the polimedipharma (its a new word - im working on it)

Pharmapolimedia maybe?
Medipharmapolitician?
Pharmediapolitics?

Reckon with a pen and paper there's a decent anagram in there somewhere.

Pharmapolimedia

Renal pedophilia

 

[Jono777]

Took me getting on for 10 years to realise, however there are some sick puppies on this forum

 

[geordiecolin]

Took me getting on for 10 years to realise, however there are some sick puppies on this forum

Can you expand on that statement?

 

[Jono777]

Can you expand on that statement?

Sure mate

Took me getting on for 10 years to realise, however there are some sick puppies on this forum

 

[Jono777]

Joking apart, it was a tongue in cheek post how some turn even the most innocent word into something perverse

 

[geordiecolin]

Joking apart, it was a tongue in cheek post how some turn even the most innocent word into something perverse

There is no "n" in Pharmapolimedia I was using poetic license

 

[bamberfishcake]

I suggest that folk look at these figures. Should be headline news but alas- bbc news "107,000 cases".
And Dealer was screamed at!
I had posted the wrong clip

Wow, that is literally horrifying.

50,000 extra cancer deaths to be attributed from missed diagnosis and missing radiotherapy etc over the last 18 months vs 17,371 deaths purely from Covid only on the death certificate.

 

[electronictonic]

Wow, that is literally horrifying.

50,000 extra cancer deaths to be attributed from missed diagnosis and missing radiotherapy etc over the last 18 months vs 17,371 deaths purely from Covid only on the death certificate.

Exactly what dealer said I remember he basically said the lockdowns would create far more deaths than a virus ever will, and those effects will be felt for decades and decades, but I quite sure those that gave him shit would be tripling down if they were still here, i'm sure their opinions / beliefs won't have changed one iota.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Exactly what dealer said I remember he basically said the lockdowns would create far more deaths than a virus ever will, and those effects will be felt for decades and decades, but I quite sure those that gave him shit would be tripling down if they were still here, i'm sure their opinions / beliefs won't have changed one iota.

Think it's an admirable quality to be able to hold your hands up and admit when you're wrong.

A lot of what Dealer was saying from the start seems to be coming to light.

Don't think saying I told you so helps. It's not something that's nice to be right about either. It must be hard for some people to admit we live under a downright dirty and corrupt illusion of democracy and that our government do not care about our wellbeing, only our money and obedience.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Let's not forget also, we put our trust and a lot of faith in the media, government and pharma to look out for our best interests.

Information has been confusing from the start. Nobody knew for sure what was going on and do we still know the full story? What's the reason behind it all? Where did the virus come from? etc etc.

The one thing I am absolutely sure of is that things need to change for humanities benefit. It's mindblowing trying to think of how though, and many would rather live a happy and quiet life than one of oppression. Sometimes, ignorance is definitely bliss.

 

[geordiecolin]

Let's not forget also, we put our trust and a lot of faith in the media, government and pharma to look out for our best interests.

Information has been confusing from the start. Nobody knew for sure what was going on and do we still know the full story? What's the reason behind it all? Where did the virus come from? etc etc.

The one thing I am absolutely sure of is that things need to change for humanities benefit. It's mindblowing trying to think of how though, and many would rather live a happy and quiet life than one of oppression. Sometimes, ignorance is definitely bliss.

I had my doubts from the start and I expressed those doubts. All that you mentioned are in bed together and it was the most disgusting orgy I have witnessed

 

[electronictonic]

I had my doubts from the start and I expressed those doubts. All that you mentioned are in bed together and it was the most disgusting orgy I have witnessed

Posted on a forum, taken from UK gov report that they put online.

Don’t take it from me, I don’t even get to tweet anymore.

Taken it from a little place I call the British government. Which admitted today, in its newest vaccine surveillance report, that:

“N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” (Page 23)

What’s this mean? Several things, all bad. We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).

What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.

This means vaccinated people will be far more vulnerable to mutations in the spike protein EVEN AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN INFECTED AND RECOVERED ONCE (or more than once, probably).

It also means the virus is likely to select for mutations that go in exactly that direction, because those will essentially give it an enormous vulnerable population to infect. And it probably is still more evidence the vaccines may interfere with the development of robust long-term immunity post-infection".

 

[Kroffe]

Posted on a forum, taken from UK gov report that they put online.

Don’t take it from me, I don’t even get to tweet anymore.

Taken it from a little place I call the British government. Which admitted today, in its newest vaccine surveillance report, that:

“N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” (Page 23)

What’s this mean? Several things, all bad. We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).

What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.

This means vaccinated people will be far more vulnerable to mutations in the spike protein EVEN AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN INFECTED AND RECOVERED ONCE (or more than once, probably).

It also means the virus is likely to select for mutations that go in exactly that direction, because those will essentially give it an enormous vulnerable population to infect. And it probably is still more evidence the vaccines may interfere with the development of robust long-term immunity post-infection".

Alex Berenson posted that.
But i wouldnt trust him, Robert Malone said he is just 'controlled opposition', a government puppet.
And Alex is no fan of Robert and ivermectin either.

You would think two people that are trying to sell books to the same anti-vax market would be better frie...oh right, money.

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- Alex post about report.

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- Alex reply to Robert calling him a government puppet.

The report if anyone wants to read:

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[goatwack]

Strange how all the chickens are coming home to roost at once, with the 'trend' being that politicians, governments et al, by and large, are dismissing the severity of this pandemic simultaneously, what with Omicron having seemingly won them over.

Masks to go, WFH to go, vaccine passports consigned to the 'shit idea' bin and much rejoicing to be found.

- that is, unless you live in cuckoo countries like Austria and its sidekick simps Germany, where come March they'll seemingly circumvent laws and make vaccination mandatory, because as we know that's the way forward. Be interesting to see if the lederhosen loons get away with imposing a split societal change and if they can sustain it indefinitely ?

 

[Kroffe]

Strange how all the chickens are coming home to roost at once, with the 'trend' being that politicians, governments et al, by and large, are dismissing the severity of this pandemic simultaneously, what with Omicron having seemingly won them over.

Masks to go, WFH to go, vaccine passports consigned to the 'shit idea' bin and much rejoicing to be found.

- that is, unless you live in cuckoo countries like Austria and its sidekick simps Germany, where come March they'll seemingly circumvent laws and make vaccination mandatory, because as we know that's the way forward. Be interesting to see if the lederhosen loons get away with imposing a split societal change and if they can sustain it indefinitely ?

Heard about that on the Radio while in the shop yesterday.
Heard 'Vaccines will become mandatory' and was like wtf did i miss now, but then it went on to say 'in Austria'
I doubt they will be able to enforce something like that, especially if other countries go in the opposite direction regarding restrictions vaccines etc.


But thats not the important part, i was buying things to make the taco pie that is currently in the oven.
High expectations, smells really good.

 

[justdoit]

 

[geordiecolin]

Posted on a forum, taken from UK gov report that they put online.

Don’t take it from me, I don’t even get to tweet anymore.

Taken it from a little place I call the British government. Which admitted today, in its newest vaccine surveillance report, that:

“N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” (Page 23)

What’s this mean? Several things, all bad. We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).

What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.

This means vaccinated people will be far more vulnerable to mutations in the spike protein EVEN AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN INFECTED AND RECOVERED ONCE (or more than once, probably).

It also means the virus is likely to select for mutations that go in exactly that direction, because those will essentially give it an enormous vulnerable population to infect. And it probably is still more evidence the vaccines may interfere with the development of robust long-term immunity post-infection".

Things are turning so well at the moment that I am expecting another variant come along that will bring along more fear porn and new measures. Something that effects our pets and animals maybe?

 

[Jono777]

I hear the new variant can be kept at bay by regular sex

Masturbation and other aids do not count as I also hear it is something to do with the female / male hormone interchanges, few medical words but this is the bones of it.

Guess CM is going to lose a big, big chunk of its members to this variant

 

[bamberfishcake]

In any event, things are looking up.

Now we can all get back up the pub, mingle in the high street, meet friends for a coffee, have parties and do all those things the politicians have been doing for the last two years

 

[bamberfishcake]

Things are turning so well at the moment that I am expecting another variant come along that will bring along more fear porn and new measures. Something that effects our pets and animals maybe?

I wonder what they will try next, the whole thing has been worrying from the start, not just Covid but the way it's been handled.

Funny how the restrictions are being lifted following massive unrest in many countries opposing the mandates.

The power will always lie with the majority. We are yet to see the full effects on health and wealth, will boosters still be pushed and will covid vaccines become a thing of the past or will more be forced upon us in new ways.

Let's make hay while the sun shines eh

 

[geordiecolin]

I hear the new variant can be kept at bay by regular sex

Masturbation and other aids do not count as I also hear it is something to do with the female / male hormone interchanges, few medical words but this is the bones of it.

Guess CM is going to lose a big, big chunk of its members to this variant

I am all for trying some panic sex

 

[goatwack]

I hear the new variant can be kept at bay by regular sex

Masturbation and other aids do not count as I also hear it is something to do with the female / male hormone interchanges, few medical words but this is the bones of it.

Guess CM is going to lose a big, big chunk of its members to this variant

You're going to have to explain that first sentence to me again, my shwanz ain't what it used to be

On the bright side, if the rumours are true according to the media, should Masticron ever rise through the population I'll have 1000% immunity

 

[geordiecolin]

I wonder what they will try next, the whole thing has been worrying from the start, not just Covid but the way it's been handled.

Funny how the restrictions are being lifted following massive unrest in many countries opposing the mandates.

The power will always lie with the majority. We are yet to see the full effects on health and wealth, will boosters still be pushed and will covid vaccines become a thing of the past or will more be forced upon us in new ways.

Let's make hay while the sun shines eh

I think that after the two jabs roll out passed,talk of vaccinating our children then needing a booster then another while witnessing the effects on people around them and in society folk have started asking questions and once they ask themselves questions they find many anomalies. Folk no longer trust the news,or politicians or health experts to tell them the truth.
And when open debate is shut down most people seek out the truth.

 

[Kroffe]

You're going to have to explain that first sentence to me again, my shwanz ain't what it used to be

On the bright side, if the rumours are true according to the media, should Masticron ever rise through the population I'll have 1000% immunity

100% immunity:

 

[justdoit]

?

 

[slotplayer]

 

[electronictonic]

Things are turning so well at the moment that I am expecting another variant come along that will bring along more fear porn and new measures. Something that effects our pets and animals maybe?

That's what I said a while ago to you, they will come for our pets next, and I fully expect a new scariant just in time to put the restrictions back.

 

[geordiecolin]

In an induced coma after 3 jabs. I hope she recovers. ( Great sax playing ) The pain and pleasure of dating!

 

[geordiecolin]

Eighth Day​

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In the beginning was the word, man said: Let there be more light
Electric scenes and laser beams, neon brights the light abhorring nights
On the second day he said: Let's have a gas
Hydrogen and cholera and pest
Let's make some germs, we'll poison the worms
Man will never be suppressed
And he said: Behold what I have done
I've made a better world for everyone
Nobody laugh, nobody cry
World without end, forever and ever
Amen, amen, amen
On the third we get green and blue for pie
On the fourth we send rockets to the sky
On the fifth make the beasts and submarines
On the sixth man prepares his final dream:
In our image, let's make robots for our slaves
Imagine all the time that we can save
Computers, machines, the silicon dream
Seventh he retired from the scene
And he said: Behold what I have done
I've made a better world for everyone
Nobody laugh, nobody cry
World without end, forever and ever
Amen (amen), amen (amen), amen (amen)
On the eighth day machine just got upset
A problem man had never seen as yet
No time for flight, a blinding light
And nothing but a void, forever night
He said: Behold what man has done
There's not a world for anyone
Nobody laughed, nobody cried
World's at an end, everyone has died
Forever amen (amen), amen (amen), amen (amen)
He said: Behold what man has done
There's not a world for anyone
Nobody laughed, nobody cried
World's at an end, everyone has died
Forever amen (amen), amen (amen), amen (amen)

 

[goatwack]

And just when we thought Ternur's videos were whack

 

[geordiecolin]

What is the point in getting vaccinated?

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[TheAddict]

from that article:
"Authorities have said they hope the fourth shot will blunt a wave of infections driven by Omicron."

It seems that perhaps the one thing that both those who didoand did not take a vaccine will always have in common, is that neither will ever be "fully vaccinated"
At least some got dopamine hits out of it with the facebook "look at me guys, I'm fucking amazing because I'm fully vaccinated" badge displayed on their profile page ;p

 

[slotplayer]

I went last Friday and got the booster and the flu shot. I was the only one there for it, hmmm I thought.

I'm done with it all.

 

[electronictonic]

What is the point in getting vaccinated?

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Because as long as the PCR test uses 40+ cycles you will get 90% + false positives no matter how many times you get the juice, so it is a casedemic.

 

[geordiecolin]

Because as long as the PCR test uses 40+ cycles you will get 90% + false positives no matter how many times you get the juice, so it is a casedemic.

And the hospitals will receive all of the financial incentives up to death.

 

[geordiecolin]

Even the lefties are seeing the truth

 

[geordiecolin]

So We are to view Covid to the Flu then after those convos at the beginning! 17 thousand died without any other comorbidities out of 150 thousand deaths. That is very similar to the average deaths per year from Flu. A flu that was missing over the past few years.

 

[bamberfishcake]

So We are to view Covid to the Flu then after those convos at the beginning! 17 thousand died without any other comorbidities out of 150 thousand deaths. That is very similar to the average deaths per year from Flu. A flu that was missing over the past few years.

Exactly, it's almost impossible to conceive that big pharmediaticians conjured up a plan to vaccinate against the flu virus......or is it

 

[geordiecolin]

Exactly, it's almost impossible to conceive that big pharmediaticians conjured up a plan to vaccinate against the flu virus......or is it

And she is lying about the figures. She must not of got the memo. 17.500 died of Covid and the rest died with comorbidities. Average age of those who died where above the average death age.
They keep using the figures as fear porn

" most hospitalized where jabbed so get jabbed"

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[Kroffe]

And she is lying about the figures. She must not of got the memo. 17.500 died of Covid and the rest died with comorbidities. Average age of those who died where above the average death age.
They keep using the figures as fear porn

" most hospitalized where jabbed so get jabbed"

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Comorbidity just means the patient had more than one medical condition at the time of death.

If someone with a broken toe and covid end up dying in the hospital it probably wasnt because of the broken toe.
Same with things like high blood pressure, asthma, diabetes, allergies etc etc.

Ive seen many complaints about how they have inflated the number to make it look bigger than it is (and they have) but excluding all people that had comorbidites from the stats is just doing the same thing in the opposite direction to make the number look smaller than it is.

 

[geordiecolin]

Comorbidity just means the patient had more than one medical condition at the time of death.

If someone with a broken toe and covid end up dying in the hospital it probably wasnt because of the broken toe.
Same with things like high blood pressure, asthma, diabetes, allergies etc etc.

Ive seen many complaints about how they have inflated the number to make it look bigger than it is (and they have) but excluding all people that had comorbidites from the stats is just doing the same thing in the opposite direction to make the number look smaller than it is.

You are not comorbid with a broken toe. A comorbidity is having a condition that you could die from.


They where killing this guy

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[sufferinsilence]

I don't really mind putting up a divide between: died purely from Covid and died from Covid but also had comorbidities. Aslong as both numbers are added together in the end.

Most people with 2 comorbidities weren't going to die in the immediate future if they didn't contract Covid. Getting infected and subsequently ending up in hospital and on a ventilator wasn't because they had the known illness but because they unfortunately got ill with Covid.

Ofcourse there's people who were at the end of their life and Covid was the last blow, just like getting the flu or perhaps a regular cold could've been. Not going to deny that at all. But those people aren't 50-60 year olds that are being treated for their "comorbidities" and would've lived 10-20 years longer if they didn't get the infection.

 

[Kroffe]

You are not comorbid with a broken toe. A comorbidity is having a condition that you could die from.


They where killing this guy

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Where did you find that?
The definition i looked at says a comorbidity is "the simultaneous presence of two or more diseases or medical conditions in a patient."
Cant find anything saying it has to be a condition/disease that has the potential to be deadly.

Even if broken toes does not count, things like allergies, high blood pressure, diabetes, asthma etc are all things you could die from, and excluding all people that happen to have those conditions from the stats wont give you an accurate number.
Like i said, seen many complaints about misleading stats in here, and imo this is just the same but the other direction.

 

[geordiecolin]

Where did you find that?
The definition i looked at says a comorbidity is "the simultaneous presence of two or more diseases or medical conditions in a patient."
Cant find anything saying it has to be a condition/disease that has the potential to be deadly.

Even if broken toes does not count, things like allergies, high blood pressure, diabetes, asthma etc are all things you could die from, and excluding all people that happen to have those conditions from the stats wont give you an accurate number.
Like i said, seen many complaints about misleading stats in here, and imo this is just the same but the other direction.

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[Kroffe]

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So it doesnt have to be something you could die from?

 

[geordiecolin]

So it doesnt have to be something you could die from?

What is the point you are trying to make?