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I don't have a problem with anyone who doesn't have the vaccine, I wish it was easier to get the others rather than just the AZ which is what they seem to give by default, as there doesn't seem to be problems with the others, but the fact remains, you have more chance of developing blood clots from being on the pill or on a long haul flight.
Out of interest, if you were offered the pfizer vaccine would you take it?
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Must confess I was pleased to have been given the Pfizer rather than the Astra but would have been ok to take anything offered.
Had a blood clot once years ago through my own stupidity and it was bloody frightening,did not seek medical help and lucky I didnt
die but it wouldnt put me off any vaccine, its a matter of chances,as gambling inclined people we should know a bit about that.
Just for info,never rest the back of your ankles on a surface that can cut off the blood supply for any length of time, thats what I
did and a clot must have formed and travelled up to my lungs,got the classic sign of tingling lips,ended up on my back hardly
breathing but very fortunately the clot cleared it itself and I was ok after a couple of hours.
Had a blood clot once years ago through my own stupidity and it was bloody frightening,did not seek medical help and lucky I didnt
die but it wouldnt put me off any vaccine, its a matter of chances,as gambling inclined people we should know a bit about that.
Just for info,never rest the back of your ankles on a surface that can cut off the blood supply for any length of time, thats what I
did and a clot must have formed and travelled up to my lungs,got the classic sign of tingling lips,ended up on my back hardly
breathing but very fortunately the clot cleared it itself and I was ok after a couple of hours.
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i think Colin i would go for this new one if anything Janssen,one dose only
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The bbc journalist from newcastle radio died due to a clot, she was 44 and I believe it was the astra vax she had, but i thought the govt had decided not to use that with the young.
A canadian professor is bringing out a peer reviewed study into the spike protein, describing it as a toxin, and the problem is it's getting into the blood in some rather than staying in the muscle. Dr byram bridle iirc, a pro vax virologist.
A canadian professor is bringing out a peer reviewed study into the spike protein, describing it as a toxin, and the problem is it's getting into the blood in some rather than staying in the muscle. Dr byram bridle iirc, a pro vax virologist.
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Under 30's I thought it was? Having said that, both my daughters had it and they are under 30.
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I have just attended a 2 mil people march snaking around London all afternoon. . All unmasked, unjabbed, mixing, singing, dancing, hugging etc Expect London to have 2 million new cases by next week NOT.
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They need their heads tested, risk analysis 101
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Welcome back dealer wins! We did not miss you. 
Maybe Colin did, muah! I kid I kid. 
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2 million people were there? You sure about that?
You know when you were protesting about wanting your freedom back, did you notice all the people sitting in pubs, going shopping, going to the football, getting their hair cut or on their way to a friend or families house?
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No coverage on the bbc site of the march, as far as i can tell, and they lecture on about a free media and democratic values, but just pretend and lie something hasn't happened. News is supposed to be just that, a report of events.
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Why give them the extra publicity?
To be fair, if there were 2 million people there, they probably haven't got back to the office to write the story yet.
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Yes you're right there should be a news blackout on this, it's only the capital. Also should use the voice distortion if any are interviewed, and hide their identity, don't want viewers to see normal average citizens are protestingWhy give them the extra publicity?
To be fair, if there were 2 million people there, they probably haven't got back to the office to write the story yet.
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I didn't say there should be a news blackout, just don't see why it's expected to be reported onYes you're right there should be a news blackout on this, it's only the capital. Also should use the voice distortion if any are interviewed, and hide their identity, don't want viewers to see normal average citizens are protesting
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I think you have to remember dealers propensity to exaggerate - it was probably closer to hundred walking down to the pub waving the anti vax placards..... or maybe he was following the crowds to wembley for the play off final....Why give them the extra publicity?
To be fair, if there were 2 million people there, they probably haven't got back to the office to write the story yet.
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If you take the bbc website there was no coverage, that is a blackout on that medium. Yet today there was coverage of covid protests in brazil against their president, how can that be newsworthy but london packed with peaceful demonstrators isn't.I didn't say there should be a news blackout, just don't see why it's expected to be reported on
The disinformation is at orwellian levels:
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So was it hundreds or 2 million? ?
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Less than when i took to the streets to protest Cadbury's scaling down of their eggs.
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This says thousands not millions. These protesting people who want their freedom back then proceeded to invade a shopping centre where other people already enjoying their freedom as in eating, drinking and shopping minding their own business then had to be turfed out due to the protesters. So who was actually taking freedom away there ?
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As far as i know the shopping centre was fully open, the only restriction being having to wear masks so its really beyond me what
they were protesting about
they were protesting about
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Or when they changed marathons to snickers
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Took these 2 pics from mid Oxford St. The march was still passing Trafalgar sq at the time, and the entire length of Oxford St was filled. So yes, there were that many people.
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The vaccines must be immediately halted and abandoned if this is true.
(8 mins long audio)
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cncas you are laughing at a medical treatment that is killing and seriously injuring hundreds of thousands of people.
Over 1200 deaths, and 822,078 reactions, of which 100,000+ are extremely serious and lifechanging.
This is just in the UK.
Over 1200 deaths, and 822,078 reactions, of which 100,000+ are extremely serious and lifechanging.
This is just in the UK.
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I thought we shouldn't trust government figures? But now (because you insanely believe they back you up) they are the figure we should use to fact check what you are saying?
There is nothing on that link that suggests your initial figures are correct. Aside from that, can you link to the PROOF the vaccine caused any of the deaths?
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Are you serious!!
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That is the doc I heard the other day, sounds like a very sober and serious person, an assistant professor from a canadian university.
Normally vaccines use inactive or weakened virus but using the spike dna or mrna doesn't seem to be as safe/inert as doing that, hence a worse safety profile than other jabs like flu.
Anecdotal accounts from twitter that some docs and hospitals are unwilling to report reactions, I suspect the numbers are worse, elderly people will often not 'want be a nuisance' instead just accepting it as one of those things.
How can anyone here provide more proof than the govt have published ? Several countries have decided not to use the astra vax either entirely iirc or only for certain groups, does this count as nothing ?
Normally vaccines use inactive or weakened virus but using the spike dna or mrna doesn't seem to be as safe/inert as doing that, hence a worse safety profile than other jabs like flu.
Anecdotal accounts from twitter that some docs and hospitals are unwilling to report reactions, I suspect the numbers are worse, elderly people will often not 'want be a nuisance' instead just accepting it as one of those things.
How can anyone here provide more proof than the govt have published ? Several countries have decided not to use the astra vax either entirely iirc or only for certain groups, does this count as nothing ?
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Yes I am, have you actually looked at the yellow card reports?
One, for example was, 'patient was in a coma and at EOL, was given vaccination and passed 37 hours later'
So an end of life patient, already in a coma, was given the vaccine (was in a care home) and died. Are you seriously saying you think that was due to having the vaccine? Or maybe they died because they were at the end of their life.
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Coronavirus vaccine - weekly summary of Yellow Card reporting
The article specifically says it is important to note that yellow card data cannot be used to derive side effects or compare the safety profile of covid 19 vaccinations , as many factors can influence ADR reporting .
So as @dealer wins now is a true believer of government stats and articles, as this suits him today as the wind is blowing easterly, I am assuming he also believes the bit about yellow card data, effectively shooting his own argument in the foot.
The article specifically says it is important to note that yellow card data cannot be used to derive side effects or compare the safety profile of covid 19 vaccinations , as many factors can influence ADR reporting .
So as @dealer wins now is a true believer of government stats and articles, as this suits him today as the wind is blowing easterly, I am assuming he also believes the bit about yellow card data, effectively shooting his own argument in the foot.
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Where can you see individual case descriptions/yellow card reports, I can only see the the option to make a report on
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I'm out at the moment but will try to find the link when I get home, I thought it was for serious side effects etc, but half the ones I read were things like 'patient had a sore arm for 24 hours', 'patient had flu like symptoms for 2 days' and stuff like that.
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Why i didn't get any symptoms and reason to stay in bed few days 
maybe next week after second Pfizer...
maybe next week after second Pfizer...
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From Alex Berenson's twitter feed, regarding the virus being naturally evolved or engineered, also noticed uk's jeremy farrar of the wellcome trust is CC'd
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The whole scamdemic is falling apart, give it 6 months max. Sadly, the experimental vax has been given to millions and millions, which could prove horrific in the coming next few years.
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what are you flapping your gums about now?
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If you went to a doc and he injected you with an experimental substance and you soon died from clots, he'd be up for manslaughter at least, seeing another case of a 43 yr old lady dying after having the oxford vax - what's the difference? Somebody who was probably at little risk from covid [ the stats bear that out ] now dead, that's got to be a huge concern and tragedy, can't imagine how her family feel.
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Yes, it's a tragedy that she died, but it's a bit early to say it was from the vaccine, as the only person saying it was, is her boyfriend.
Considering the doubts around it at the moment I don't understand why they haven't stopped using it and started using one of the others until they have investigated things properly.
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Heres the recipe for gain of function covid 19, that the Wuhan Lab made and released either by accident or more likely on purpose. Tic tok people are going to prison soon when the house of cards fall.
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Knew it was BS and an evil con back in March 2020.
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What? So no one died?
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So the virus isn't real??? Man made or not... It can and has caused long lasting effects on many people. So you don't want to protect them with protocols that are known to work? You think the healthcare workers are lying about being overworked and being stressed out around the globe??? Until this pandemic, I don't think we have ever had a large vaccine rollout so the issues that some have when they take it would be more noticeable than before . The numbers are still very small in the grand scheme of things.
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It must be in the low hundreds for the deaths from a rare blood clot, I'd like to know how thoroughly the scientists involved checked the spike protein in terms of pathogen potential, iirc within a very short period they had decided the vaccine, that it would use the covid spike, and mrna or dna to instruct the body's cells to produce the spike.
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just....today....finally.......restrictions lifted (oh, sure, still many caveats - ie no indoor eating and bars)....but jinkies, a long run
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Good to see you back Dion! Missed your input here!
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I had the pfizer around 3 weeks ago and immediately a benign cyst went septic and i had it removed last week. I’m absolutely terrified what this vaccine has done to me! And wish I’d stuck to my guns and said no thank you!
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I now have a month of misery hoping this heals and getting it cleaned and dressed every single day!
The main problem is if what antivaxxers are claiming is true, they’ve cried wolf too much in the past and now nobody gives them any credibility. It’s absolutely horrific if people are being killed from a vaccine! And the part that really pisses me off is drs should be doing full medical checks first! If you have something underlying its underlying and you don’t know it. That’s literally what underlying means!
The main problem is if what antivaxxers are claiming is true, they’ve cried wolf too much in the past and now nobody gives them any credibility. It’s absolutely horrific if people are being killed from a vaccine! And the part that really pisses me off is drs should be doing full medical checks first! If you have something underlying its underlying and you don’t know it. That’s literally what underlying means!
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The bottom one is from 2005 copied and pasted to make it look recent. I’m pretty sure other one is from an old site too. Also phoney, ironically that recipe is for treating sars not creating it..,
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