yesterday's sunday mail comment:
Fraser Nelson, editor of The Spectator magazine, last week published a number of major disclosures. Hospital numbers now available demolish the belief that the March lockdown was caused by a surge of disease. They also undermine the view that the shutdown was the reason deaths began to drop.
Covid deaths peaked on April 8, 16 days after lockdown. We now know that Covid's infection-to-death time-lag is about four weeks, which suggests that fatal infections peaked well before lockdown began.
They were probably dropping fast before Boris Johnson's proclamation of a national standstill on March 23. The NHS as a whole never came close to capacity. On April 11-12, the peak weekend for Covid cases in hospitals, almost 41 per cent of general acute beds were unoccupied.
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Haven't read the spectator article, but find it strange people who routinely have no trust in Bojo would trust him with everything on this, so he's morphed from an irresponsible bs merchant/opportunist into mr trustworthy. Then when he's talking about brexit he slips back
The science the govt is relying on needs to be widely shared and examined / scrutinised by the whole UK scientific community, not just their chosen 'experts'. If professors and lifelong scientists are seeing problems with the govt's stats and approach then we should at least listen to what they have to tell us, and then the govt can answer these critics. At the moment they are running scared from disclosure and getting help from the shill media to smear people like sunetra Gupta.
^This is just my opinion folks, If you disagree I don't mind.
Surely we aren't using the Mail as a source for good scientific information?
Personally I trust SAGE a lot more than I trust Bojo, and their advice was to lockdown 2-3 weeks ago. I certainly don't want a lockdown, I made the best of it last time, but it was red hot and I live a few miles from the coast, which was deserted and safe, so I wasn't stuck in every day, but it did mess my plans up for a few things quite a lot. However, I also don't want loads of old people dying, which if something hadn't been done, would likely be in high numbers over Christmas.
Having said that, this isn't a lockdown like last time. Ben mentions construction workers, they are allowed to work. So are most people, unless they work in leisure (pubs etc) or non essential shops. Schools and Uni's are still open.
I genuinely don't see the point of a lockdown when millions are still going out to work, when millions are going to school, college, and university.
I also can't see it ending on the 2nd December. Last time it took over 5 weeks for the numbers to start to fall (despite the misinformation posted on here), and they didn't stop rising until that point. Surely this time will be slower, as the lockdown isn't anywhere close to as strict. He isn't going to lift restrictions while the numbers are still going up, nor if they are substantially higher than they are today. That will be disastrous for the country, the high street and leisure industry in particular. We will see major pub closures if they don't get to open in December, even if they are allowed to, then they will have massive struggles as office parties etc are already cancelled in most places.
However, you can't blame just the government for this, people need to take it seriously and take responsibility for their actions. 'I'm alright Jack' just doesn't cut it. Crowding together and ignoring the rules was always going to ensure a spike. My daughter was telling me yesterday there are a load of her mates at uni talking about having one last blast out before lockdown, and there are loads of house parties planned for the next couple of days. I mean, how fucking stupid is that?
Seen a few pubs on social media pushing people to go out, and that to save throwing beer away they will be selling it for 95p a pint till it's gone, so 'have one last night of fun before lockdown at the best price you will see'. You can guarantee those pubs will be packed out, then will complain that they are closed longer because the cases kept rising.
It doesn't help that Bojo totally lost it a couple of months ago. Instead of giving clear advise and being decisive the government has totally lost any semblance of control. Local measures that no one understood, the tier system that was easier to understand, but then turned out could be changed county to county. Now a lockdown that isn't a lockdown. I will put money on, come Friday there will be very little difference on the roads, whereas last time they were completely deserted.
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