Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[ternur]

This is not recorded at some small town shack. This is the Whitehouse Covid briefing room. "Take the mask off you don't need it. Infection rate is 0.1- 0.3. Besides WE HAVE ALL BEEN VACCINATED"
0.1-0.3 !!
Do you feel duped yet?

You can believe it if you want to. I wouldn't be so sure.

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[sufferinsilence]

You can believe it if you want to. I wouldn't be so sure.

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Not Stanford but USC then, small error

 

[mack341]

Mills told the AP in an email that there is no vaccine, and the conversation was a “total joke.”

“Clearly no one has been vaccinated,” Roberts said, adding that there is no vaccine available for COVID-19 yet.

“Really? That’s reassuring,” Mills remarks. “Everyone here’s been vaccinated anyway.” this sentence comes across as a statement of fact to me rather than a joke, say it yourself, if it had a 'ha ha' somewhere maybe

 

[dionysus]

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[sufferinsilence]

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Inject bleach and a flashlight?

Someone should shut this man up.

 

[goatwack]

Trump's plan is clearly flawed. Injecting soap & water and a flashlight should suffice

 

[dionysus]

Trump's plan is clearly flawed. Injecting soap & water and a flashlight should suffice

I suppose ya could stick a soapy flashlight up ya bum but then, it'd have to be for 20 seconds or it doesnt count

 

[goatwack]

I suppose ya could stick a soapy flashlight up ya bum but then, it'd have to be for 20 seconds or it doesnt count

I did that pre-Corona. Doesn't everyone

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[mina1929]

Lovely video I like the Shoebill bird, fascinating and of course everybody loves bears

 

[snorky510238]

Lovely video I like the Shoebill bird, fascinating and of course everybody loves bears

Says the lady who openly admitted she thought feeding pets to Komodo dragons was acceptable.

 

[geordiecolin]

I watched that vid earlier as I think it was posted over on the Icke forum virus thread, a member did raise that possibility that it was a setup regarding the vaccine slip, possibly so people clamber to have it themselves 'if he's got it, why can't we' kind of demands.

It's not entirely clear what John roberts is saying but I think the point he was making is the test results in california mean millions have already had the virus and so the death rate percentage needs recalibrating downwards. I've seen the articles on that test in california, so that is not a secret.

edit: that is a clearer recording than the icke forum one I heard earlier, which was very muffled.

see it is strange that John roberts didn't say to the man 'what do you mean you've been vaccinated?' that would be what every other person on the planet would ask...

They would desparately backtrack unless they wanted to lose their jobs and probably their lives. They where talking in all seriousness. Including that the death rate from the studys was between 0.1-0.3% whch is no different to the common Flu.
And people,including me have been prepared to have their lives distroyed for it! More lives will be lost to the lock down that covid itself

 

[shadow123]

There are only 2 possible end games to this, either the virus fizzles out on it own which is unlikely but
not impossible or a vaccine is produced,think it is serious enough to make vaccination compulsory.

 

[geordiecolin]

There are only 2 possible end games to this, either the virus fizzles out on it own which is unlikely but
not impossible or a vaccine is produced,think it is serious enough to make vaccination compulsory.

Have you done any serious research on Bill Gates? Did you take any notice of what was printed in here about the amount of people from Africa and Asia that his experiments have killed,crippled and the lives ruined?

He has stated that he is very proud of his father who was a leading light into the study of depopulation. A number of times he has talked of the need for depopulation. Yet he wants to find a vax to save the whole world?

For me the lack of interest in those people smacks of much worse racism in here than what has been squabbled about in recent days

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Wow, just been catching up on the thread.

My 2 pence...couldn't stand Playford when I first joined the forum. Thought he was rude and over opinionated. However, I soon realised he's a decent guy who is just blunt and to the point, not scared to have his opinion. Quite frankly I admire that. Refreshing in this day and age where most people are afraid to call a spade a spade.

I do think people are very very quick to pull out the racism card these days. It's like a trump card people pull to win an argument and make it seem like their opinion has moral superiority.

I don't actually think there are many 'true' racists around these days at all to be honest.

 

[geordiecolin]

Wow, just been catching up on the thread.

My 2 pence...couldn't stand Playford when I first joined the forum. Thought he was rude and over opinionated. However, I soon realised he's a decent guy who is just blunt and to the point, not scared to have his opinion. Quite frankly I admire that. Refreshing in this day and age where most people are afraid to call a spade a spade.

I do think people are very very quick to pull out the racism card these days. It's like a trump card people pull to win an argument and make it seem like their opinion has moral superiority.

I don't actually think there are many 'true' racists around these days at all to be honest.

I agree on the race issue but we are all very complex with triggers that can give us the appearance of being racist.

 

[mina1929]

Says the lady who openly admitted she thought feeding pets to Komodo dragons was acceptable.

Oh you remember that

 

[snorky510238]

Being an elephant, snorky never forgets and to be fair it was a great typo. I have been guilty of many myself.

 

[Borgie]

Wow, just been catching up on the thread.

My 2 pence...couldn't stand Playford when I first joined the forum. Thought he was rude and over opinionated. However, I soon realised he's a decent guy who is just blunt and to the point, not scared to have his opinion. Quite frankly I admire that. Refreshing in this day and age where most people are afraid to call a spade a spade.

I do think people are very very quick to pull out the racism card these days. It's like a trump card people pull to win an argument and make it seem like their opinion has moral superiority.

I don't actually think there are many 'true' racists around these days at all to be honest.

I agree with all that. I was the same. Playford grew on me so to speak.

However it does frustrate me that even after quite a few people explaining why using the term Chinese virus could he detrimental to chinese people as idiots blame them or even attack them and they lose business through that ignorance that Playford still insisted he would continue to refer to the virus that way.

That to me makes it become at least prejudice as it means he is happy for some of a race of people to potentially suffer as a result when we each have the power to simply call it covid or coronavirus to help prevent that.

 

[snorky510238]

They would desparately backtrack unless they wanted to lose their jobs and probably their lives. They where talking in all seriousness. Including that the death rate from the studys was between 0.1-0.3% whch is no different to the common Flu.
And people,including me have been prepared to have their lives distroyed for it! More lives will be lost to the lock down that covid itself

Stats for flu deaths are based over years of data whereas this is very new and the long term stats could show very different results.

The UK has consistently shown around 4-5000 new cases each day for the past few weeks and that is with restrictions in place. Do you really think if everything went back to normal tomorrow we would end up in a better situation?

 

[shadow123]

Have you done any serious research on Bill Gates? Did you take any notice of what was printed in here about the amount of people from Africa and Asia that his experiments have killed,crippled and the lives ruined?

He has stated that he is very proud of his father who was a leading light into the study of depopulation. A number of times he has talked of the need for depopulation. Yet he wants to find a vax to save the whole world?

For me the lack of interest in those people smacks of much worse racism in here than what has been squabbled about in recent days

No I havnt researched Gates,and yes people have died though vaccination but much as I hate to do it I will
trust the experts to come up with a safe solution,personally I have no life until then as no matter how much
the lockdown is lifted we will have stay in strict self isolation.

 

[Borgie]

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[colinsunderland]

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Lets hope it is effective, although it will still be 2021 most likely before it is available, due to the amount of testing that needs to take place

 

[mack341]

Bill Maher a big time liberal and trump hater on US TV has come out saying using 'the chinese virus' description is okay:



And on panic porn

 

[Kroffe]

Ill continue my shilling of American Moviestars and their youtubechannels with this.
John Krasinski

 

[ternur]

@geordiecolin

Do you still believe the video you posted is a true representation of the facts and AP's fact check of it is false?

The Press is on cover up, so they can't be trusted <- In your opinion, true or not?

 

[slotplayer]

Not sure how much it matters but John Roberts is from Canada.

 

[slotplayer]

Bill Maher a big time liberal and trump hater on US TV has come out saying using 'the chinese virus' description is okay:



And on panic porn

I saw that second one the other day.

Came across this one.

 

[colinsunderland]

Todays early figures

England - 587
Scotland - 64

England up on yesterday's 514 which isn't good, although the figures are slightly lower than last week but not the drop you would expect considering the time the lockdown has been in place. If they don't substantially drop next week I can see it going on for another 3 weeks the same as it is now

 

[Kroffe]

I saw that second one the other day.

Came across this one.

Haha, daaamn.
Bill got his ass handed to him in that one.

 

[slotplayer]

Haha, daaamn.
Bill got his ass handed to him in that one.

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I know, that Crenshaw guy was really prepared.

 

[Kroffe]

I know, that Crenshaw guy was really prepared.

Yeah.
And Bill seemed to not be prepared at all.
Bet he didnt expect Crenshaw to be that on top of things.

 

[geordiecolin]

@geordiecolin

Do you still believe the video you posted is a true representation of the facts and AP's fact check of it is false?

The Press is on cover up, so they can't be trusted <- In your opinion, true or not?

Give me a bit more clarity on which video your talking about then I may also know who AP is?

 

[geordiecolin]

No I havnt researched Gates,and yes people have died though vaccination but much as I hate to do it I will
trust the experts to come up with a safe solution,personally I have no life until then as no matter how much
the lockdown is lifted we will have stay in strict self isolation.

I can totally understand your position and how it must make you feel. However there are many top medical professionals speaking out about the need for a lockdown but it is hard to find them because they do not last long online for too long
This deserves a full listen. 2nd video is much shorter

 

[Borgie]

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This says a lot as piers morgan and trump are friends and have been for years... if he is saying trump is bonkers it speaks volumes.

 

[geordiecolin]

Stats for flu deaths are based over years of data whereas this is very new and the long term stats could show very different results.

The UK has consistently shown around 4-5000 new cases each day for the past few weeks and that is with restrictions in place. Do you really think if everything went back to normal tomorrow we would end up in a better situation?

Take a look at the statistics of the likes of Sweden. Even in Sweden there is a Dr Whistleblower complaining of how they are requested to sedate over 80's who have difficulty breathing instead of treating them. The result is a quick death

 

[geordiecolin]

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This says a lot as piers morgan and trump are friends and have been for years... if he is saying trump is bonkers it speaks volumes.

Who knew that it was such a thing?
Trump is advised by his medical team prior to the briefing. Do you not think he was advised on suggesting this treatment before talking about it? He keeps repeating £ I don't know,I am not a Dr ...."
Folk will hang him no matter what

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And before I am accused of being a Trump supporter, I am far from it. He is as corrupt and perverted and depraved as the others

 

[goatwack]

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This says a lot as piers morgan and trump are friends and have been for years... if he is saying trump is bonkers it speaks volumes.

Piers Morgan is a cock. I wouldn't pay heed to whether he endorses or criticizes someone, his verdict's irrelevant either way.

Only reason he ditched his chum is because he probably didn't fancy defending Trump for half an hour on live TV in one of his sermons

 

[Kroffe]

I can totally understand your position and how it must make you feel. However there are many top medical professionals speaking out about the need for a lockdown but it is hard to find them because they do not last long online for too long
This deserves a full listen. 2nd video is much shorter

Saw the same video on reddit earlier.

Just copy&pasting the top comment.

"Neither of them is an immunologist, and one doesn’t even practice as a physician anymore. The two run a private urgent care and have seen a huge drop in visits because people are scared of covid. If anything, they have all the incentive in the world to downplay the virus. And their data sucks - they’re saying that because 12% of the people at their clinic who came in to get tested are positive for covid, that means 12% of all Californians have it. Even a freshman college student can point out the obvious flaw in that argument. "

Saw it here.
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[geordiecolin]

Saw the same video on reddit earlier.

Just copy&pasting the top comment.

"Neither of them is an immunologist, and one doesn’t even practice as a physician anymore. The two run a private urgent care and have seen a huge drop in visits because people are scared of covid. If anything, they have all the incentive in the world to downplay the virus. And their data sucks - they’re saying that because 12% of the people at their clinic who came in to get tested are positive for covid, that means 12% of all Californians have it. Even a freshman college student can point out the obvious flaw in that argument. "

Saw it here.
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Are you ignoring the latest official statistics?
And why would you take the word of a random poster as credible in a comment section?

 

[Kroffe]

Are you ignoring the latest official statistics?

I have not looked at the statistics for about a week or so, so i guess you could say that.

 

[geordiecolin]

I have not looked at the statistics for about a week or so, so i guess you could say that.

Why do you rate the merits of a random poster in another forum as being so creditable as to quote it as some sort of proof to discredit them?

 

[ternur]

Give me a bit more clarity on which video your talking about then I may also know who AP is?

Your post yesterday from the WH press room and my follow-up to Associated Press site.

 

[Kroffe]

Why do you rate the merits of a random poster in another forum as being so creditable as to quote it as some sort of proof to discredit them?

You can check the thread if you want.
It had links to their md-pages or whatever its called, and to their clinic.

Im not saying its proof to discredit them, but if they have financial gain by downplaying the virus, maybe their words should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[geordiecolin]

Your post yesterday from the WH press room and my follow-up to Associated Press site.

Ah. The Associated Press? Those bastions of the truth. An organisation that in no way is in the pockets of American media.


"The Associated Press is an American not-for-profit news agency headquartered in New York City. Founded in 1846, it operates as a cooperative, unincorporated association. Its members are U.S. newspapers and broadcasters "


Yeah I would believe them almost as much as I would believe Snoops

 

[ternur]

Ah. The Associated Press? Those bastions of the truth. An organisation that in no way is in the pockets of American media.


"The Associated Press is an American not-for-profit news agency headquartered in New York City. Founded in 1846, it operates as a cooperative, unincorporated association. Its members are U.S. newspapers and broadcasters "


Yeah I would believe them almost as much as I would believe Snoops

So, does this mean that you believe that your post with a video from WH press room is the truth and AP's fact check is not?

 

[geordiecolin]

You can check the thread if you want.
It had links to their md-pages or whatever its called, and to their clinic.

Im not saying its proof to discredit them, but if they have financial gain by downplaying the virus, maybe their words should be taken with a grain of salt.

Lets leave it there. Maybe come back to me if you find that their figures do not add up with official statistics for the areas that they quoted.

 

[geordiecolin]

So, does this mean that you believe that your post with a video from WH press room is the truth and AP's fact check is not?

I am utterly open to be proven wrong. Go ahead. I don't mind one jot.

 

[goatwack]

The truth is subjective to a lot of people and whether it ties in with their narrative.

Real truth is that most of us won't even get anywhere near the complete picture