Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[ternur]

I am utterly open to be proven wrong. Go ahead. I don't mind one jot.

Is that a yes? It was simple question.

 

[ternur]

The truth is subjective to a lot of people and whether it ties in with their narrative.

Real truth is that most of us won't even get anywhere near the complete picture

Yes, but sometimes facts are more commonly accepted. Making them, like facts or something

 

[geordiecolin]

The truth is subjective to a lot of people and whether it ties in with their narrative.

Real truth is that most of us won't even get anywhere near the complete picture

Not for a long time yet. I care about the outcome to this just as much as anyone. I have family,I have friends. I totally understand that everyone posting does too

 

[goatwack]

Yes, but sometimes facts are more commonly accepted. Making them, like facts or something

You mean like the fact and commonly-held view that the Earth was flat once

 

[Borgie]

The truth is subjective to a lot of people and whether it ties in with their narrative.

Real truth is that most of us won't even get anywhere near the complete picture

That is true. Everyone has a narrative.

 

[Kroffe]

Lets leave it there. Maybe come back to me if you find that their figures do not add up with official statistics for the areas that they quoted.

Haha, "come back to me".
I think you have wildly overestimated how much effort im willing to put into this.
I just made the post to show the other side of the coin.

Even if i were to link official data, or reports from people that are actually experts in the area relevant to covid, you would just dismiss it as them being controlled by who, cdc, or whatever.

I think we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[geordiecolin]

Is that a yes? It was simple question.

I have quite plainly stated that I believe it to be true and that I am very happy to be proven wrong. Hit me

 

[ternur]

You mean like the fact and commonly-held view that the Earth was flat once

Good point. And once we got the evidence, we accepted the new truth.

 

[Kroffe]

You mean like the fact and commonly-held view that the Earth was flat once

Some still hold that as fact.
And for damn good reasons.

 

[goatwack]

Good point. And once we got the evidence, we accepted the new truth.

To be fair, when looking into the horizon the landscape still looks pretty flat to me

 

[geordiecolin]

Haha, "come back to me".
I think you have wildly overestimated how much effort im willing to put into this.
I just made the post to show the other side of the coin.

Even if i were to link official data, or reports from people that are actually experts in the area relevant to covid, you would just dismiss it as them being controlled by who, cdc, or whatever.

I think we will have to agree to disagree.

I rarely deliberately overestimate you Kroffe. I do try to provide credible vids and links which I am more than willing to discuss the merits of

 

[ternur]

I have quite plainly stated that I believe it to be true and that I am very happy to be proven wrong. Hit me

Thank you.

I don't feel any need to prove you're wrong. I just wanted to make clear what you're standpoint was. You could be right, I do not know.

But to answer your question: Do you feel duped yet? No, not yet and certainly not based on that video by itself. It really does not prove anything.

 

[ternur]

To be fair, when looking into the horizon the landscape still looks pretty flat to me

You're just doing it wrong. Open your mind friend.

 

[pinnit2014]

Some still hold that as fact.
And for damn good reasons.

You’ve just posted Ternur related porn in the form of a pub. Shame on you.

Devito does an excellent job of being stomach churning in that series.

 

[Borgie]

Captain Tom Moore becomes oldest person to reach number one in UK singles chart

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[pinnit2014]

They’ve started to knock a lot of the high rises down in Glasgow so I can now see that the world is indeed flat.

Previously the furthest I could see was the dodgy convenience store that sold heroin beside the haribos

 

[geordiecolin]

Thank you.

I don't feel any need to prove you're wrong. I just wanted to make clear what you're standpoint was. You could be right, I do not know.

But to answer your question: Do you feel duped yet? No, not yet and certainly not based on that video by itself. It really does not prove anything.

Totally duped but I fear for the future.

 

[goatwack]

I rarely overestimate you Kroffe. I do try to provide credible vids and links which I am more than willing to discuss the merits of

Nothing wrong with sharing vids but open-source material that is supposedly 'leaked' or 'top-secret' would rarely be found in the public domain. Let alone wing its way to YT

And when you mention discussing the merits, you got your back up at the slightest hint the vids may not be as genuine as you believe.

So this is where people take umbrage that no one believes them and that they're fighting some sort of crusade to convert the 'stupid people'. Which in turn throws any criticism or debunking of these sources wooosh out of the window!

 

[ternur]

Nothing wrong with sharing vids but open-source material that is supposedly 'leaked' or 'top-secret' would rarely be found in the public domain. Let alone wing its way to YT

And when you mention discussing the merits, you got your back up at the slightest hint the vids may not be as genuine as you believe.

So this is where people take umbrage that no one believes them and that they're fighting some sort of crusade to convert the 'stupid people'. Which in turn throws any criticism or debunking of these sources wooosh out of the window!

Disclaimer: This is a generic reply and not directed towards @geordiecolin

I'll quote myself:

Conspiracy theories usually lack the process of the scientific method which would classify them more as pseudoscience than actual scientific theories.

I would actually not call these constructs theories at all. They are more or less hypotheses. They usually lack substantive, supporting evidence and tend to take leaps in logic and argumentation.

Theories on the other hand can be tested and falsified. A theory always has evidence and can be tested by anyone and acquire the same result which guarantees the truth it holds.

Those who believe in these conspiracy hypotheses usually see themselves as sceptics. They see the information they received via mainstream channels more critically than others and are enlighted and better informed than the average person.

They are also usually overconfident in their own ability to inform themselves and arrive at a critically considered judgment over issues (for which they are not experts most of the times). After critically weighing different facts and explanations, they make up their own mind, and in many cases end up with false beliefs.

Debunking these beliefs is not an easy task. Conspiracy theorists tend to see all the evidence one can produce against a conspiracy hypotheses as smokescreen (produced by the conspirators).

 

[goatwack]

Disclaimer: This is a generic reply and not directed towards @geordiecolin

I'll quote myself:

Conspiracy theories usually lack the process of the scientific method which would classify them more as pseudoscience than actual scientific theories.

I would actually not call these constructs theories at all. They are more or less hypotheses. They usually lack substantive, supporting evidence and tend to take leaps in logic and argumentation.

Theories on the other hand can be tested and falsified. A theory always has evidence and can be tested by anyone and acquire the same result which guarantees the truth it holds.

Those who believe in these conspiracy hypotheses usually see themselves as sceptics. They see the information they received via mainstream channels more critically than others and are enlighted and better informed than the average person.

They are also usually overconfident in their own ability to inform themselves and arrive at a critically considered judgment over issues (for which they are not experts most of the times). After critically weighing different facts and explanations, they make up their own mind, and in many cases end up with false beliefs.

Debunking these beliefs is not an easy task. Conspiracy theorists tend to see all the evidence one can produce against a conspiracy hypotheses as smokescreen (produced by the conspirators).

Oh I see. A generic reply but using my quote to quote-shame me

 

[ternur]

Oh I see. A generic reply but using my quote to quote-shame me

Nonono. I agreed with you. I think?

 

[colinsunderland]

They’ve started to knock a lot of the high rises down in Glasgow so I can now see that the world is indeed flat.

Previously the furthest I could see was the dodgy convenience store that sold heroin beside the haribos

They knocking the ones down in an extremely dodgy area? Can't remember what it was called, but one of the few places I've been in the UK where I didn't feel safe enough to walk around by myself. From memory, they were a dirty grey colour, they looked depressing from driving past let alone when you got there lol. It was a lot of years ago though so probably changed and been painted since then
Went to a UFO concert in Glasgow in around 1984/5ish, that was an eye opener. One of the best gigs I've been to, but had to have eyes in the back of my head being English, even though I was with about 20 Scottish lads!

 

[pinnit2014]

They knocking the ones down in an extremely dodgy area? Can't remember what it was called, but one of the few places I've been in the UK where I didn't feel safe enough to walk around by myself. From memory, they were a dirty grey colour, they looked depressing from driving past let alone when you got there lol. It was a lot of years ago though so probably changed and been painted since then
Went to a UFO concert in Glasgow in around 1984/5ish, that was an eye opener. One of the best gigs I've been to, but had to have eyes in the back of my head being English, even though I was with about 20 Scottish lads!

Glasgow has quite a few to be honest; the most famous of them was Red Row ones in Springburn area (the ones they planned on using the demolition during the commonwealth games), been a few gone in the Gorbals area as well and when i went to visit my mate a few months ago in the East End, i see several of theirs are gone as well: all the areas tend to be, lets say, the less affluent. Scottish Government are very keen on their social housing.

TBH i feel more at ease here than the more affluent Edinburgh but if you look at SIMD

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the amount of red is quite striking

 

[geordiecolin]

Nothing wrong with sharing vids but open-source material that is supposedly 'leaked' or 'top-secret' would rarely be found in the public domain. Let alone wing its way to YT

And when you mention discussing the merits, you got your back up at the slightest hint the vids may not be as genuine as you believe.

So this is where people take umbrage that no one believes them and that they're fighting some sort of crusade to convert the 'stupid people'. Which in turn throws any criticism or debunking of these sources wooosh out of the window!

I missed this comment. Why not try to engage the content of what I post in future rather than dismissing out of hand which is what happens most of the time in this thread. I respond in turn. You don't seem to like that much?
Would you rather me leave you all to it rather than me questioning?

 

[goatwack]

I missed this comment. Why not try to engage the content of what I post in future rather than dismissing out of hand which is what happens most of the time in this thread. I respond in turn. You don't seem to like that much?

Name the part of my initial responses to your WH vid I dismissed out of hand

I'll be waiting over there

 

[paul7388]

Glasgow has quite a few to be honest; the most famous of them was Red Row ones in Springburn area (the ones they planned on using the demolition during the commonwealth games), been a few gone in the Gorbals area as well and when i went to visit my mate a few months ago in the East End, i see several of theirs are gone as well: all the areas tend to be, lets say, the less affluent. Scottish Government are very keen on their social housing.

TBH i feel more at ease here than the more affluent Edinburgh but if you look at SIMD

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the amount of red is quite striking

You forgot about the flats at shitehill.

And not being pedantic it was Red Road .

 

[pinnit2014]

You forgot about the flats at shitehill.

And not being pedantic it was Red Road .

I was saying row in something else in my head

 

[geordiecolin]

Name the part of my initial responses to your WH vid I dismissed out of hand

I'll be waiting over there

I was not referring to a specific post. This thread is littlered with most posters dismissing content out of hand.

 

[paul7388]

I was saying row in something else in my head

Anyway since you know do much about the poor areas and North of Glasgow you should move here.

You will find it much nicer than your bit.

 

[goatwack]

I was not referring to a specific post. This thread is littlered with most posters dismissing content out of hand.

Likely because most people are on edge, listless, agitated & don't know which news sources to go by. Given how there's no doubt a lot of misinformation flying about from both the MSM and alternative news outlets

 

[pinnit2014]

Anyway since you know do much about the poor areas and North of Glasgow you should move here.

You will find it much nicer than your bit.

And give up my Bearsden Mansion? Nope...not much Air BnB going on for that

In the SIMD map though it's easy to see who's who:

Red - Bonanza Players
Dark Blue - Non Bonanza Players

Hope they factor that into their next update

I get around Glasgow, occasionally i will mix with the hoi polloi

 

[paul7388]

And give up my Bearsden Mansion? Nope...not much Air BnB going on for that

In the SIMD map though it's easy to see who's who:

Red - Bonanza Players
Dark Blue - Non Bonanza Players

Hope they factor that into their next update

I get around Glasgow, occasionally i will mix with the hoi polloi

You can keep your Bearsden Mansion.

Sure my Bishopbriggs one can Rival it. Not that i stay there just stay near it so it's good when people ask where you are from. I just say it's near Bishopbriggs and they think oh nice.

 

[pinnit2014]

You can keep your Bearsden Mansion.

Sure my Bishopbriggs one can Rival it. Not that i stay there just stay near it so it's good when people ask where you are from. I just say it's near Bishopbriggs and they think oh nice.

There was a pub there, near Briggs' station (opposite Morrisons i think) called the Hermitage (it was a horrible lime green) - i remember getting stuck there years ago and going to walk home.

When i'm here people ask where i'm from (still heavy NI accent) and i just say NI because when i say my town they just look at me and then i have to start pointing on a map. What, not Belfast? NO.

 

[geordiecolin]

Likely because most people are on edge, listless, agitated & don't know which news sources to go by. Given how there's no doubt a lot of misinformation flying about from both the MSM and alternative news outlets

If I address a post with a differing opinion then I usually have a source to back it up with. It is called debate.

But going back to what you posted at first.

Nothing wrong with sharing vids but open-source material that is supposedly 'leaked' or 'top-secret' would rarely be found in the public domain. Let alone wing its way to YT

Such videos are posted all of the time. Youtube delete them quite quickly.

And when you mention discussing the merits, you got your back up at the slightest hint the vids may not be as genuine as you believe.

Can you explain what you mean by getting my back up and show me an example of me doing such?

So this is where people take umbrage that no one believes them and that they're fighting some sort of crusade to convert the 'stupid people'. Which in turn throws any criticism or debunking of these sources wooosh out of the window!

I have tried to make sense out of that but it has failed me?

 

[goatwack]

It's still up





"I expected that. I'm just a deluded conspiracy theorist"

People with leftfield views get irked by others not lapping up their incredible finds, when really half this stuff is inconclusive at best, and so become defensive at not having convinced everyone of 'their truth'. It really isn't that hard to decipher. But like I said, if there is a blockbusting expose that shakes the foundations of all we know then by all means

 

[geordiecolin]

It's still up





"I expected that. I'm just a deluded conspiracy theorist"

People with leftfield views get irked by others not lapping up their incredible finds, when really half this stuff is inconclusive at best, and so become defensive at not having convinced everyone of 'their truth'. It really isn't that hard to decipher. But like I said, if there is a blockbusting expose that shakes the foundations of all we know then by all means

Its great to see that so many are prepared to download and repost it. Its been reposted many times. More people are getting switched on to the shame that it is. Remember that in the case of this vid it went so viral that the guys had to make a statement so there is no point in deleting it because it would be too obvious.

 

[slotplayer]

fwiw I can say I've never heard a bad word about the AP. Always seemed a credible organization to me. TV anchors seem to respect it.

 

[slotplayer]

John Roberts was a Canadian fucken stud in his younger days. The fox beauties oogled over him on air not too long ago when the fox weather lady showed a pic of her and him years ago in Canada.

He used to be on CNN, knocked up his co-anchor, married her and had twins. Soon after that he was over at Fox. (lol)

 

[dionysus]

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[Playford7]

I’m away a few hours and the thread goes utterly bonkers.
Hells teeth indeed.
in other news off to buy some toilet duck, harpic and assemble some needles.

 

[geordiecolin]

fwiw I can say I've never heard a bad word about the AP. Always seemed a credible organization to me. TV anchors seem to respect it.

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I did a search online for seeds today and less and less stores are selling them. It scares me

 

[geordiecolin]

I’m away a few hours and the thread goes utterly bonkers.
Hells teeth indeed.
in other news off to buy some toilet duck, harpic and assemble some needles.

Can I ask you for your support because I have put my name forward as CM forum rep at the Worldwide Casino Forum Convention on World Overpopulation ?

 

[Playford7]

Can I ask you for your support because I have put my name forward as CM forum rep at the Worldwide Casino Forum Convention on World Overpopulation ?

Goes without saying.
count me in.

 

[geordiecolin]

Goes without saying.
count me in.

My humble appreciation. In return I promise that no Kebab carousel will tip over before your served in your lifetime

 

[geordiecolin]

The trouble is that this guy somehow in the vid above has the power and trust handed to him to put forward this motion in America.
For those who do read/watch my content then I look forward to your thoughts

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[Kroffe]

The trouble is that this guy somehow in the vid above has the power and trust handed to him to put forward this motion in America.
For those who do read/watch my content then I look forward to your thoughts

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I dont know exactly how it currently looks, but i think it looks like sensible changes.

 

[Kroffe]

Oh, was hard to read on that screenshot.
The summary is on the bottom of the page.

 

[geordiecolin]

I dont know exactly how it currently looks, but i think it looks like sensible changes.
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License to own firearms and amunition
A In General. Except otherwise provided in this section,it shall be unlawful for any individual who is not licensed under this section to knowingly purxchase,acquire,or possess or ammunition.
Alongside the above consider everything else in the bill.
Are they not federally going to be criminal to be owning a firearm unless they have a dispensation in America?

 

[Kroffe]

License to own firearms and amunition
A In General. Except otherwise provided in this section,it shall be unlawful for any individual who is not licensed under this section to knowingly purxchase,acquire,or possess or ammunition.
Alongside the above consider everything else in the bill.
Are they not federally going to be criminal to by owning a firearm unless they have a dispensation in America?

If such a bill was passed there would probably be a period of time for people to get a license.
I kind of thought you already needed a license to own a firearm there.

I know they like their guns, but its not like the current gun-laws are without problems.
Not like they can overthrow the government with them no matter how many guns they stockpile.

 

[ternur]

You are welcome to believe that narrative Harry. I would just urge folk to not believe the shite that is being peddled as the truth by Bill Gates,Facebook, the WHO,Central Banks,Main stream media,the military and Big Pharma.
Bill Gates and his wife funded this :

Coronavirus was created under European Patent: EP3172319B1 and was develoed at the Pirbright Institute in Woking, UK. Its largest donors to fund it were the Bill and Milinder Gates Foundation
Just copy and google it.
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Really,I think we are constantly being duped

BTW @geordiecolin

Did you read that patent application/grant?