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[vorcirion]

Are you a bit slow on the uptake or what? You can't quantify racism because it is a human trait regardless of skin colour, creed, race or ethnicity. But in your world apparently you have definitive proof that 'white people' are the 'most' racist.

It actually boggles the mind that you haven't been pulled up on your blatant bias and open race condemnation all the while calling people dumb and snowflakes

What a poor troll

Okiedokie. It's pretty hard to fix problems if you can't acknowledge them you know. But whatever.

 

[colinsunderland]

I'm still waiting for any kind of proof from you that I'm wrong. I can give you many reasons why I'm right. And I'm the one flaming? "Site's biggest xenophobe". Come on snowflake...gimme the proof!

Go on then, post the proof?

 

[vorcirion]

Go on then, post the proof?

We elect our leaders based on who is the most anti-immigrant...how stupid is that? It's everywhere in Europe now. It's like blaming immigrants for our own problems.
You want to ban immigrants coming to your country 'cause they take your jobs or whatever...but then you don't want to do those jobs so you need to hire those immigrants anyway.
Or that they are destroying your culture...how insecure you need to be to really think that? Sure Islam will replace european culture...right Marine Le Pen? Then there's AfD in Germany too. Way too many parties in about every european country (including mine) getting huge amount of votes based on anti-immigrant speech.

And of course there's Trump...openly racist who wanted to ban muslims (not extremists...just muslims) entering to his country...and I'm not supposed to be opposed to that? So sure...I'm anti-US now until they change that kind of stances. But still...he got elected so that tells alot about us "good" white people. Doesn't matter if he says: "good people on both sides" when nazis are marching. Still too high approval ratings.

So yes...we have a racism problem in US and in Europe and we need to fix that.

 

[colinsunderland]

So yes...we have a racism problem in US and in Europe and we need to fix that.

Thats not what you said at all.
I agree, there are racists, but they are worldwide. I know areas in Bradford (UK) and plenty of others, I wouldn't dare walk about in because of racism, and I'm white British. In fact a know a couple of areas in Sunderland where I live I would actively avoid for the same reason. Just as I'm sure there are areas non whites would avoid. There is racism everywhere, but that doesn't mean most are, and it certainly doesn't mean whites have more than any other culture/race.

 

[vorcirion]

Thats not what you said at all.
I agree, there are racists, but they are worldwide. I know areas in Bradford (UK) and plenty of others, I wouldn't dare walk about in because of racism, and I'm white British. In fact a know a couple of areas in Sunderland where I live I would actively avoid for the same reason. Just as I'm sure there are areas non whites would avoid. There is racism everywhere, but that doesn't mean most are, and it certainly doesn't mean whites have more than any other culture/race.

Oh yeah I'm sure you get many insults from blacks/muslims/asians etc. because of your skin color. Just like I get many insults here...umm...no I don't. And I've seen many white people insulting people of color. First it was towards somalis...then it was towards muslims. Wonder if it's asians' turn next.

 

[Kroffe]

Trying to open this thread tomorrow.

 

[pinnit2014]

That term snowflake. I hate it !!

Leave the nice, pretty ,unbelievably complex proper snowflake alone.

People are not snowflakes. Snowflakes are...

Pretty...humans are not?

Correct-a-mundo

 

[colinsunderland]

Oh yeah I'm sure you get many insults from blacks/muslims/asians etc. because of your skin color. Just like I get many insults here...umm...no I don't. And I've seen many white people insulting people of color. First it was towards somalis...then it was towards muslims. Wonder if it's asians' turn next.

Yes I would if I went to certain areas. I don't because I don't choose to live in a predominately non white area where I know I would be hounded out of. I hope thats ok with you, or should I move somewhere like that and video the abuse, just to satisfy your ignorant comments?

I can give you many instances of racism I've encountered during my life, but you just live in your own little world, where the only racists are white.

 

[pinnit2014]

Trying to open this thread tomorrow.

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Is that you at my door? Told you - I'm not allowed out to play :-(

 

[Kroffe]

Is that you at my door? Told you - I'm not allowed out to play :-(

Ill come back when its winter i guess.

 

[vorcirion]

Yes I would if I went to certain areas. I don't because I don't choose to live in a predominately non white area where I know I would be hounded out of. I hope thats ok with you, or should I move somewhere like that and video the abuse, just to satisfy your ignorant comments?

I can give you many instances of racism I've encountered during my life, but you just live in your own little world, where the only racists are white.

So you've been insulted 'cause of your skin color or not? Or is that just an assumption that you would get insulted if you went to that certain area?

 

[irish-ranger]

Racism you lot wouldn’t know it if it jumped up and slapped yours round the chops.
Here’s how a Scottish co worker welcomes me “All right you bog trotting carrot crunching fuck wit” thon has it all

 

[pinnit2014]

Racism you lot wouldn’t know it if it jumped up and slapped yours round the chops.
Here’s how a Scottish co worker welcomes me “All right you bog trotting carrot crunching fuck wit” thon has it all

No reference to potatoes?

 

[Jono777]

So you've been insulted 'cause of your skin color or not? Or is that just an assumption that you would get insulted if you went to that certain area?

Common sense based on knowledge more than assumption,

Certain areas get a reputation whether it malice, innocent, intended or not, it just happens, its life

A certain part of Wolverhampton, you'd be lucky to get away with just insults, more likely a kicking or a stabbing, possibly worse, yes just for being white.

No, I ain't racist, no I ain't paranoid, no I ain't stereotyping, its just a fact, that simple

 

[irish-ranger]

No reference to potatoes?

No mate he’s a left footer jock in his mind we are all the same lol he really has no room to talk as he’s from the big smoke of Elgin

 

[nutnut]

Most boring topic in the world racism. It's never actually the real people who suffer it that discuss and over use the word.

It's the middle class sitting at home looking from a distance screaming racists and having witch hunts online.

Carry on...

 

[paul7388]

So you've been insulted 'cause of your skin color or not? Or is that just an assumption that you would get insulted if you went to that certain area?

I agree with you about a lot of white people being Racist. Lets face it many openly admitted voting Brexit for that reason. And i have witnessed many racist remarks from white people to others.

But it is the same in every race. Maybe if you lived in an area where whites were in the minority you would witness it yourself.

There were several cases of Asians and blacks attacking white people in Sighthill in Glasgow a few years back. They were racist attacks just because the people walking through were white. But they get very little publicity. If it had been a group of white people tho attacking an asian it would have been everywhere as a racist attack.

For example Hindus and Muslims regularly racially abuse each other. Is that not Racism. Don't get started on Islamic attacks on Christians etc. Protestants hating Catholics. The list is endless.

Let's face it many people of every culture are Racist towards others. The human species has always hated others and been at war. Doubt it will ever change.

 

[vorcirion]

I agree with you about a lot of white people being Racist. Lets face it many openly admitted voting Brexit for that reason. And i have witnessed many racist remarks from white people to others.

But it is the same in every race. Maybe if you lived in an area where whites were in the minority you would witness it yourself.

There were several cases of Asians and blacks attacking white people in Sighthill in Glasgow a few years back. They were racist attacks just because the people walking through were white. But they get very little publicity. If it had been a group of white people tho attacking an asian it would have been everywhere as a racist attack.

For example Hindus and Muslims regularly racially abuse each other. Is that not Racism. Don't get started on Islamic attacks on Christians etc. Protestants hating Catholics. The list is endless.

Let's face it many people of every culture are Racist towards others. The human species has always hated others and been at war. Doubt it will ever change.

Alright fair enough. Glad someone was able to give something substantive unlike Goat.

 

[goatwack]

Alright fair enough. Glad someone was able to give something substantive unlike Goat.

You needed someone else to tell you people of all races attack each other. Great substantive figures there

3/10 troll attempt. Please try harder

 

[vorcirion]

You needed someone else to tell you people of all races attack each other. Great substantive figures there

3/10 troll attempt. Please try harder

Cry more please.

 

[goatwack]

Cry more please.

About what now? Man you must be bored

 

[colinsunderland]

So you've been insulted 'cause of your skin color or not? Or is that just an assumption that you would get insulted if you went to that certain area?

No I haven't , because I wouldn't go to those areas alone, when I was younger I was known enough not to get trouble, and when I went somewhere like that I would take someone with me either local or who I knew they wouldn't mess with. Do I know anyone personally who has, yes, quite a few. The fact I needed people with me to go into those areas, when I would happily walk into places well known for being extremely dodgy should tell you the risk.

When I've been buying stock around Manchester, in mainly pakistani warehouses, the prices quoted to me were always higher than I knew others were getting, who happened to be the same race as those selling. Thats racism.

You are either trolling or you are very naive if you genuinely believe there is no racism towards white people.

 

[paul7388]

You needed someone else to tell you

But it was not just anybody else. It was me

 

[Playford7]

I still don't have the time to go through 100s of pages but I will make it simple for you Ben.

Did you ever call the 2009 H1N1 flu the American flu, the American mess, the American cover-up, "It's an American holiday - they deserve are entitled to break too"? Let me guess, until now you never even thought about calling it anything American.

FYI, it infected an estimated 700 million to 1.4 billion people and killed some 250,000 people. And that with transmission happening by symptomatic people only.

A simple YES or NO answer will suffice. No explanations needed.

Further, I sent you these links on 15th April 2020 as to why exactly it has been decided between all 194 or thereabouts members of the WHO (of which the UK is one) not to call a virus or a disease after the country of origin. You either did not bother to read the documents or decided to simply ignore them as you kept calling COVID-19 the same names.

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Third and BTW, my wife is of Chinese decent and white people like you who insist that "certain values and cultures are better than others" don't have a clue whatsoever who is Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese or Korean, nor the suffering people like you cause to all Asians around the world simply because people like you have never been at the receiving end of racists comments/attacks but feel SO F*CKING entitled to call it the China Virus.

The only conclusion remaining is that you are simply racist.



That is a plain lie, Ben. And you know it. I can copy the text of my message into this thread if you want.

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99% of racist say ‘ I’ve a black friend’ if that isn’t you mentioning tokenism then I’m a massive democrat.
Look done with this, you talk nonsense.
All cultures are the same. Stats and many polls prove this.
Islam is also a huge problem in Europe.
And this indeed is a Chinese virus.
The end.

 

[Playford7]

No I haven't , because I wouldn't go to those areas alone, when I was younger I was known enough not to get trouble, and when I went somewhere like that I would take someone with me either local or who I knew they wouldn't mess with. Do I know anyone personally who has, yes, quite a few. The fact I needed people with me to go into those areas, when I would happily walk into places well known for being extremely dodgy should tell you the risk.

When I've been buying stock around Manchester, in mainly pakistani warehouses, the prices quoted to me were always higher than I knew others were getting, who happened to be the same race as those selling. Thats racism.

You are either trolling or you are very naive if you genuinely believe there is no racism towards white people.

Imagine applying for the fire brigade, being ex forces, fit as a lop and also Better than other candidates in every field.
Then get told your application won’t get any further as you don’t fit the ‘ethnic quota’
Happened to me, straight white guy..
but hell, can’t be racist against us huh

 

[goatwack]

But it was not just anybody else. It was me

Yes. I would change it to 'Paul the Wise' but I can't be bothered

But at least you had something substantive to say. Unlike vorc with his outright racism

 

[vorcirion]

No I haven't , because I wouldn't go to those areas alone, when I was younger I was known enough not to get trouble, and when I went somewhere like that I would take someone with me either local or who I knew they wouldn't mess with. Do I know anyone personally who has, yes, quite a few. The fact I needed people with me to go into those areas, when I would happily walk into places well known for being extremely dodgy should tell you the risk.

When I've been buying stock around Manchester, in mainly pakistani warehouses, the prices quoted to me were always higher than I knew others were getting, who happened to be the same race as those selling. Thats racism.

You are either trolling or you are very naive if you genuinely believe there is no racism towards white people.

Just curious about your actual experiences. We really don't have "ghettos" here I think. I guess we really do live in different worlds. But thanks for telling at least!

 

[colinsunderland]

Imagine applying for the fire brigade, being ex forces, fit as a lop and also Better than other candidates in every field.
Then get told your application won’t get any further as you don’t fit the ‘ethnic quota’
Happened to me, straight white guy..
but hell, can’t be racist against us huh

Or worse, be a 14/15 year old girl who had been systematically raped for years by a gang of men, in say Rochdale, and find the police won't do anything as the rapists weren't white. But theres no racism against whites, by either the rapists who only raped white girls, or reverse racism by the police who refused to arrest anyone.

 

[vorcirion]

Yes. I would change it to 'Paul the Wise' but I can't be bothered

But at least you had something substantive to say. Unlike vorc with his outright racism

Why you're the one whining so much after you called me the site's biggest xenophobe? Not my problem if you're so sensitive You shouldn't go after someone if you can't handle any kind of criticism.

 

[colinsunderland]

Just curious about your actual experiences. We really don't have "ghettos" here I think. I guess we really do live in different worlds. But thanks for telling at least!

Surely you have watched movies though that are set in black ghettos, even in the US?

 

[goatwack]

Why you're the one whining so much after you called me the site's biggest xenophobe? Not my problem if you're so sensitive You shouldn't go after someone if you can't handle any kind of criticism.

What criticism?

You stated white people were the most racist. Then you got called out for your BS and needed people to tell you racism is prevalent everywhere

Maybe if you slunk out of your basement dwelling and lived in the real world you'd know what you're talking about before generalizing an entire race. Until then, please stop embarassing yourself

 

[vorcirion]

Surely you have watched movies though that are set in black ghettos, even in the US?

That's US. I can't expect much from them. They don't care about the poor people. They don't have same kind of safety nets as we tend to have in Europe. They have many very rich people...and many very very poor people and they just don't take care of them unlike we do here...even though they could easily afford it. US and Europe are two very different things imo.

 

[Jono777]

Good thing could be by the time this thread is back on track, the lock down will be lifted and we're given the all clear

 

[vorcirion]

What criticism?

You stated white people were the most racist. Then you got called out for your BS and needed people to tell you racism is prevalent everywhere

Maybe if you slunk out of your basement dwelling and lived in the real world you'd know what you're talking about before generalizing an entire race. Until then, please stop embarassing yourself

Don't worry. I still do think that whites are more racist than other people. But you really should grow up you little cry baby.

 

[goatwack]

Don't worry. I still do think that whites are more racist than other people. But you really should grow up you little cry baby.

Oh no

You didn't just call me a......crybaby did you???!!

 

[vorcirion]

Oh no

You didn't just call me a......crybaby did you???!!

You're 41yo at least according to your profile. Act like one already please.

 

[goatwack]

You're 41yo at least according to your profile. Act like one already please.

So far you've used 3 direct insults and openly state white people are the most racist

I know who's the real crybaby of this scenario

 

[Playford7]

Don't worry. I still do think that whites are more racist than other people. But you really should grow up you little cry baby.

Oh let’s see you get a ban for that actually being openly racist. Won’t happen..
Different rules for certain folks as always in this most 50/50 democracy we hold here.
You massive racist twat

 

[Playford7]

Same as last night but with onion rings replacing the chips.
And lack of the tomato garlic bread and extra salad as I’m healthy AF.
Oh and instead of 7up I’ve got a litre of coke.
Also the boss man is a muslim and a dear friend, my racism never ends lining his pocket with my silver.

 

[vorcirion]

Oh let’s see you get a ban for that actually being openly racist. Won’t happen..
Different rules for certain folks as always in this most 50/50 democracy we hold here.
You massive racist twat

I don't mind. Let's both get bans and take Goat with us

 

[ternur]

 

[Kroffe]

What is that horrible little creature doing to the nice dogs =(

 

[paul7388]

What is that horrible little creature doing to the nice dogs =(

Took the Bear to bring some sense and normality back to the thread

 

[Kroffe]

Took the Bear to bring some sense and normality back to the thread

What has the world come to.

 

[Playford7]

I don't mind. Let's both get bans and take Goat with us

Let’s be honest. I’m pretty upto date with how bans work and tread carefully, fine line stuff.
But I’ve said nothing racist not singled out a persons race or colour in a derogatory way. You have.
Apologies for the twat remark, racist however you actually are. You admitted that.
And no being banned isn’t funny nor would I want to take anyone down with me, friend or not.
That’s irrelevant.
Read my posts, not reported a single member once.
I’m no hypocrite.
Off to eat a sweaty kebab.
Good day.
Ben

 

[ternur]

What is that horrible little creature doing to the nice dogs =(

It's a sequel to a earlier fight (I think). The dogs are the real villans of the story. You should know that by now Kroffe-san.

 

[irish-ranger]

Imagine applying for the fire brigade, being ex forces, fit as a lop and also Better than other candidates in every field.
Then get told your application won’t get any further as you don’t fit the ‘ethnic quota’
Happened to me, straight white guy..
but hell, can’t be racist against us huh

Well try applying for the PSNI being a Protestant male your chances are next to zero and throw ex forces into that mix and they are zero and it’s all legal the religious breakdown anyway.

 

[Kroffe]

Let’s be honest. I’m pretty upto date with how bans work and tread carefully, fine line stuff.
But I’ve said nothing racist not singled out a persons race or colour in a derogatory way. You have.
Apologies for the twat remark, racist however you actually are. You admitted that.
And no being banned isn’t funny nor would I want to take anyone down with me, friend or not.
That’s irrelevant.
Read my posts, not reported a single member once.
I’m no hypocrite.
Off to eat a sweaty kebab.
Good day.
Ben

Do they ever serve kebab like this over in the uk?

Used to be my go-to hangover food.
Even has some healthy greens hiding there.
Garlic+hotsauce and the more the better.

 

[irish-ranger]

You're 41yo at least according to your profile. Act like one already please.

That’s bloody ageism how do you know he doesn’t have learning difficulties

 

[colinsunderland]

Do they ever serve kebab like this over in the uk?
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Used to be my go-to hangover food.
Even has some healthy greens hiding there.
Garlic+hotsauce and the more the better.

Like what? Burnt? Then yes
Theres literally 3 places I would buy that type of Kebab from in the whole of Sunderland, most of them are absolutely disgusting.