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I think we should've blocked air travel to and from china/far east early doors, as the tourist destinations in europe popular with chinese and asian tourists have effectively fast tracked the spread elsewhere.

Now we've got to shut schools and take more drastic actions but a stitch in time would've probably saved nine.

I thought with the medical breakthroughs you hear about, dna, genetics etc.. we'd have more weapons against these viruses, to inactivate them.

One vitamin that can help the body fight viruses is vitamin d

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"Vitamin D protects against colds and flu, finds major global study" from a study led by the University of Queen Mary London 2017

Vitamin D -- the 'sunshine vitamin' -- is thought to protect against respiratory infections by boosting levels of antimicrobial peptides -- natural antibiotic-like substances -- in the lungs. Results of the study fit with the observation that colds and 'flu are commonest in winter and spring, when levels of vitamin D are at their lowest. They may also explain why vitamin D protects against asthma attacks, which are commonly triggered by respiratory viruses.

Don’t know if there’s been much research since I last looked but they were drawing links between VIT D deficiency and MS. If you look at the highest per population there’s such a gulf between Northern and Southern Hemisphere countries.

Minor tip; if you take magnesium supplements you need VIT D to absorb it ;-)

Working beside a Holland and Barrett nutcase had some benefits
 
Maybe its me but cant understand why the UK is not doing everything possible to prevent mass
person to person contact as most other countries are.
If schools have to close for a few months, tough shit,its a small price to pay if it slows the spread
which seems to be the plan.Same goes for sporting events,there will always be another time for them.
 
Maybe its me but cant understand why the UK is not doing everything possible to prevent mass
person to person contact as most other countries are.
If schools have to close for a few months, tough shit,its a small price to pay if it slows the spread
which seems to be the plan.Same goes for sporting events,there will always be another time for them.
Because 1) What use would shutting schools do kids are barely affected and they would just meet up outside anyway in groups and spread anything to more areas.
2) Parents including NHS workers would have to take time off work and possibly vulnerable grandparents would have to take care of them,
3) Sporting events might be cancelled for months which would infuriate the public and make them less likely to take any measure seriously.
 
Bit of luck they will change there mind and ban that this weekend.

Been years since I was at one. The football is chronic. But it kinda always was secondary tbh. Mrs P worked for a company run by one the directors of Celtic so ended up going to the No7 lounge and getting free drink, food and Ladbrokes 20 quid bet

Prawn Sandwich?

Yes please
 
Been years since I was at one. The football is chronic. But it kinda always was secondary tbh. Mrs P worked for a company run by one the directors of Celtic so ended up going to the No7 lounge and getting free drink, food and Ladbrokes 20 quid bet

Prawn Sandwich?

Yes please

Well if it was my missus i know where i would have told her to stick her food drink and free bet :laugh:
 
Maybe its me but cant understand why the UK is not doing everything possible to prevent mass
person to person contact as most other countries are.
If schools have to close for a few months, tough shit,its a small price to pay if it slows the spread
which seems to be the plan.Same goes for sporting events,there will always be another time for them.
Same. Or businesses. I work in a city where people have got corona. Not sure if active cases though. And I work in an office with 1000 people I think? At least, you’d think they’d let uw work from home
 
Same. Or businesses. I work in a city where people have got corona. Not sure if active cases though. And I work in an office with 1000 people I think? At least, you’d think they’d let uw work from home
So some people get to work from home others don't what is the point of that?

Doctors, nurses, firefighters, policeman, shop workers, transport workers etc can't stay at home why do you think it would help anyone if some people stayed at home?
 
So some people get to work from home others don't what is the point of that?

Doctors, nurses, firefighters, policeman, shop workers, transport workers etc can't stay at home why do you think it would help anyone if some people stayed at home?

Many jobs can be easily done remotely. At this point it's advisable to try to limit this thing as much as is possible. So it might be of help to some. Probably won't do much in the end though.

But it's great that leaders like Boris and Donald really have a great understanding of this like the other things. My personal fav was Trump's continental Europe travel ban. It was really a remarkable decision by a strong and sane leader of a country :rolleyes:
 
So some people get to work from home others don't what is the point of that?

Doctors, nurses, firefighters, policeman, shop workers, transport workers etc can't stay at home why do you think it would help anyone if some people stayed at home?
Because the less people get the chance to get it - and spread it / the better?
 
So people like me in the NHS should continue to have to go to work and how will I do that when I need to catch two buses and you have sent all the drivers home for two weeks?

You could always hop on a bike.

Some jobs are crucial to functioning of society. Others are not. I mean, what greater purpose a in-store Mac genius really brings to the proper functioning of the society? Or the accountant in a open space office?
 
You could always hop on a bike.

Some jobs are crucial to functioning of society. Others are not. I mean, what greater purpose a in-store Mac genius really brings to the proper functioning of the society? Or the accountant in a open space office?
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Lloyds banking is down so I cant deposit,fed up thinking about coronovirus and wanted some distraction.
Wish I hadnt started this thread and saying I had a feeling about this virus.
French president is saying its their worst health crisis in a century, would have to be bad to beat the 1919
flu epedemic.Boris has been on telly saying expect to lose some loved ones before their time.
Suppose we should be grateful Corbyn isnt in charge.
 
Till today I did not care about anything related to Coronavirus at all. Normally, at the weekend I do my food shopping and load full fridge with everything till next weekend. But last weekend I haven't done shopping and today had to go to buy something to eat. So after work decided to go to Tesco, get a few household items and something to cook for dinner.

The first thing that I noticed, there was only a few bottles of the Tesco basic water left, Volvic, Evian, Ashbeck etc was sold out.

The similar situation was with canned fish and other stuff like sweetcorn, beans etc. I could not find a single tin of tuna or mackerel, everything was sold out except some shitty ones which nobody probably eats. Section with pasta and rice was also nearly empty.

Household tissues and medications like Lemsip, Nurofen, Ibuprofen - all were gone! And here I'm talking about Tesco which is literally a monster size. All this means, that people are preparing for the worst...

Got back home and started to question my girlfriend (she is an NHS nurse in hospital) about what is really going on regarding the virus. In a nutshell, she said, they haven't got a clue yet what exactly to do! On last week 2 people died and currently there are 6 Covid19 positive patients in her hospital, they all are isolated and doctors are wearing special masks that protecting eyes, nose and mouth because, as they say, it spreads through mucous skins similarly to other respiratory viruses.

The symptoms are very similar to the common cold - headache, temperature, watery eyes, weakness and cough. And instead of the usual runny nose and sore throat, a person develops a dry cough and fever.

But unlike other respiratory viruses, coronavirus attacks bronchi and lungs, causing breathing difficulty.

A lot depends on a person's immunity because unlike cold or flu which, as a rule, affects the younger generation — coronavirus affects mainly older people.

One of the worst places to be, she says, is a gym where people sweat and touch the same equipment!

I think, all this shit is going to last for a long time and become a total disaster. Even if they create/invent a cure it will take time to get everyone cured plus there will always be people who are the virus-positive but don't give a shit about that.

Stay strong and healthy guys! :drink:
 
You could always hop on a bike.

Some jobs are crucial to functioning of society. Others are not. I mean, what greater purpose a in-store Mac genius really brings to the proper functioning of the society? Or the accountant in a open space office?
Yes, iGaming Affiliates and Slot Streamers but I think you will all be OK as most work from home so your fun won't be curtailed.

I have contacted various affiliate managers requesting some free 'self-isolation spins' for my players but they aren't replying.

As long as I have Bonanza I'll get through this forthcoming period of doubt. As long as the missus doesn't get sent home.
 
Problem with Brits is that they generally think they can stiff upper-lip themselves away from any ailments and contagion, and so would rather be seen 'not to react negatively' to someone coughing lumps on them, to go with their fear of offending.

Whereas 'my' high street is same as always (abject) but interestingly my partner observed earlier that the only ones actively protecting themselves and others around them were an Asian couple in full-mask regalia! People on the whole are apathetic to it, annoyed only by businesses' inactivity and forced closures.

Meanwhile, whilst I did fear my gym workout the other day, handling that equipment is mostly like putting your hand on Slimer, nothing a 20 second + 10 handwash couldn't obliterate. Will probably order gloves though and be 'that guy'

So whilst the 'Containment' phase in our country is apparently kaputt, it's quite clear our superb superiors were more concerned about protecting the economy, "It won't happen to us!" type thing. So now we're at the 'Delay' stage, and the economy's f*cked anyway!
 
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.....and yet The Premier League is to go ahead as scheduled

Interesting tidbit: The Premier League is the richest league in the world!

Unrelated of course

Didn't stop Mikel Arteta getting it though!
 
There’s a difference in jobs that can and can’t be done from home?

When you take a job in the NHS or any other health care sector you know you'll be at the frontlines if something happens. Same goes when you are a police officer or firefighter. Or is my thought process off on this?
 
There’s a difference in jobs that can and can’t be done from home?

Many jobs can't be done from home simply because the business does not have the necessary infrastructure in place. You may work on a computer all day, but to work from home the business has to set up a VPN to take the traffic, then set up security, etc., all of which is not only expensive, but takes time.

When you take a job in the NHS or any other health care sector you know you'll be at the frontlines if something happens. Same goes when you are a police officer or firefighter. Or is my thought process off on this?

I am getting a little fed up with this 'work from home if you can, but if you can't, tough" attitude.

We need those people in the front line to ensure society continues to function - bus/train drivers, supermarket personnel, healthcare professionals, firefighters, etc - but hey, as long as I can work from home, and am thus at a reduced risk of catching the virus, why should I care about others who might catch the virus, because they are ensuring the wheels of society are continuing to turn, albeit in a restricted manner, and have to go out into the big, wide world in order to carry out their roles?

And don't dare tell me that those working from home don't go to the supermarket, pharmacist, etc., By those very actions you are putting everyone else at risk, as nobody is immune from this virus and you could be a carrier.

Seems to me the "I'm all right Jack" mentality is strong in many of us.
 
Many jobs can't be done from home simply because the business does not have the necessary infrastructure in place. You may work on a computer all day, but to work from home the business has to set up a VPN to take the traffic, then set up security, etc., all of which is not only expensive, but takes time.



I am getting a little fed up with this 'work from home if you can, but if you can't, tough" attitude.

We need those people in the front line to ensure society continues to function - bus/train drivers, supermarket personnel, healthcare professionals, firefighters, etc - but hey, as long as I can work from home, and am thus at a reduced risk of catching the virus, why should I care about others who might catch the virus, because they are ensuring the wheels of society are continuing to turn, albeit in a restricted manner, and have to go out into the big, wide world in order to carry out their roles?

And don't dare tell me that those working from home don't go to the supermarket, pharmacist, etc., By those very actions you are putting everyone else at risk, as nobody is immune from this virus and you could be a carrier.

Seems to me the "I'm all right Jack" mentality is strong in many of us.
Well said
 
Many jobs can't be done from home simply because the business does not have the necessary infrastructure in place. You may work on a computer all day, but to work from home the business has to set up a VPN to take the traffic, then set up security, etc., all of which is not only expensive, but takes time.



I am getting a little fed up with this 'work from home if you can, but if you can't, tough" attitude.

We need those people in the front line to ensure society continues to function - bus/train drivers, supermarket personnel, healthcare professionals, firefighters, etc - but hey, as long as I can work from home, and am thus at a reduced risk of catching the virus, why should I care about others who might catch the virus, because they are ensuring the wheels of society are continuing to turn, albeit in a restricted manner, and have to go out into the big, wide world in order to carry out their roles?

And don't dare tell me that those working from home don't go to the supermarket, pharmacist, etc., By those very actions you are putting everyone else at risk, as nobody is immune from this virus and you could be a carrier.

Seems to me the "I'm all right Jack" mentality is strong in many of us.

I care about them, and I understand fully they want to go home healthy to their families after their shift is done. But the people who work in the emergency services in particular knowingly signed up to have a job at the frontlines when shit gets bad.

I'm not all right and I'm very worried for those that have to be out and about every day.

The fact remains that the less people have to go out to stuffy offices using public transport the less possible carriers of the virus are out there which then also means those at the frontlines will have an "easier" job.
 
Many jobs can't be done from home simply because the business does not have the necessary infrastructure in place. You may work on a computer all day, but to work from home the business has to set up a VPN to take the traffic, then set up security, etc., all of which is not only expensive, but takes time.

I am getting a little fed up with this 'work from home if you can, but if you can't, tough" attitude.

We need those people in the front line to ensure society continues to function - bus/train drivers, supermarket personnel, healthcare professionals, firefighters, etc - but hey, as long as I can work from home, and am thus at a reduced risk of catching the virus, why should I care about others who might catch the virus, because they are ensuring the wheels of society are continuing to turn, albeit in a restricted manner, and have to go out into the big, wide world in order to carry out their roles?

And don't dare tell me that those working from home don't go to the supermarket, pharmacist, etc., By those very actions you are putting everyone else at risk, as nobody is immune from this virus and you could be a carrier.

Seems to me the "I'm all right Jack" mentality is strong in many of us.
Well said

Yes, well said. But missed the point.

It's not about selfishness. Quite the opposite. If you CAN work at home and in part reduce the overall spread of the virus, why on earth would you not do so?

Of course a lot of jobs require you to be present. But not all. I think that was the point.
 
Yes, well said. But missed the point.

It's not about selfishness. Quite the opposite. If you CAN work at home and in part reduce the overall spread of the virus, why on earth would you not do so?

Of course a lot of jobs require you to be present. But not all. I think that was the point.
No, I didn't miss the point. But I believe you missed the point that I was making , although not very clearly, it appears.

Firstly, very few people work from home at the moment - in fact, not that many businesses support working from home for a variety of reasons. And many businesses simply can't.

Secondly, it is still not very clear as to how this virus is spread - possibly airborne - as people who have never been in close contact with an infected person are still becoming infected.

So these people who are going to work from home - unless they never leave their home again until the virus is contained - still pose as much of a risk as everyone else, due to the fact they still have to do their shopping, etc. Where they might catch the virus from someone else nearby, then go home to their safe little cocoon of a house, and then on their next outside excursion, pass that virus on to someone else.

But it is mainly their attitude that I am beginning to despise. The "I'll work from home so I will never catch the virus, but to anyone else who can't....boo hoo hoo". And that was the point I was making.
 
Yes, well said. But missed the point.

It's not about selfishness. Quite the opposite. If you CAN work at home and in part reduce the overall spread of the virus, why on earth would you not do so?

Of course a lot of jobs require you to be present. But not all. I think that was the point.
Exactly this.
In my example I work in a company that is worldwide and has the resources to let as many people as needed to work from home.
I think that should be done - its better than sit in a 2k people office. And then also still commuting to work and running into other people.
If people who can work from home do that, it means less people out in public, making the risks of spreading smaller. Also for the people who have to be at work. Like NHS workers
 
No, I didn't miss the point. But I believe you missed the point that I was making , although not very clearly, it appears.

Firstly, very few people work from home at the moment - in fact, not that many businesses support working from home for a variety of reasons. And many businesses simply can't.

Secondly, it is still not very clear as to how this virus is spread - possibly airborne - as people who have never been in close contact with an infected person are still becoming infected.

So these people who are going to work from home - unless they never leave their home again until the virus is contained - still pose as much of a risk as everyone else, due to the fact they still have to do their shopping, etc. Where they might catch the virus from someone else nearby, then go home to their safe little cocoon of a house, and then on their next outside excursion, pass that virus on to someone else.

But it is mainly their attitude that I am beginning to despise. The "I'll work from home so I will never catch the virus, but to anyone else who can't....boo hoo hoo". And that was the point I was making.

It's all about limiting the chances of catching it. Yes, someone working from home who has to go shopping might still catch it but someone who has to go to work in a different city using a bus and train has a bigger chance of catching it. If we limit our social gatherings hard enough, i.e. don't have 250k people at a horse racing festival, it will eventually burn out. I'm sure you're aware of this.

I read a story about how all of this is done in Hong Kong but I can't find the article anymore.. I probably should've shared it when I read it. :oops:
 
No, I didn't miss the point. But I believe you missed the point that I was making , although not very clearly, it appears.

Firstly, very few people work from home at the moment - in fact, not that many businesses support working from home for a variety of reasons. And many businesses simply can't.

Yes, I think we can agree there.

But why would it be bad, if there's a chance you can limit the chance of you getting the virus? Which in turn would make it less likely for you to spread it further.

Secondly, it is still not very clear as to how this virus is spread - possibly airborne - as people who have never been in close contact with an infected person are still becoming infected.

It's still about the overall exposure to limit the chances of being infected in the first.

So these people who are going to work from home - unless they never leave their home again until the virus is contained - still pose as much of a risk as everyone else, due to the fact they still have to do their shopping, etc. Where they might catch the virus from someone else nearby, then go home to their safe little cocoon of a house, and then on their next outside excursion, pass that virus on to someone else.

I disagree. If you limit your exposure to other people, the logic would dictate you also would limit the changes of spreading the virus. And again, less likely to spread it around.

But it is mainly their attitude that I am beginning to despise. The "I'll work from home so I will never catch the virus, but to anyone else who can't....boo hoo hoo". And that was the point I was making.

I don't quite get where you got that impression from? At least I didn't from the past comments.

Edit: Like @sufferinsilence said. I'm just slow to respond :)
 
Hit the jackpot! Still had 4 packages of antibacterial hand wipes!

It's insanity here at the stores, people running around, stores and lots packed. Amazon is crashing, did get an order in for some basic supplies kind of thing which should be here Saturday but it is slim pickings.
 
Quite the opposite. If you CAN work at home and in part reduce the overall spread of the virus, why on earth would you not do so?...

Exactly this.
In my example I work in a company that is worldwide and has the resources to let as many people as needed to work from home.
I think that should be done - its better than sit in a 2k people office. And then also still commuting to work and running into other people.
If people who can work from home do that, it means less people out in public, making the risks of spreading smaller. Also for the people who have to be at work. Like NHS workers
I don't disagree with these sentiments at all. I haven't said anything to the contrary, so not sure why the implication is that I have.

It is the selfishness of people that I abhor - from unnecessary stockpiling of goods (toilet paper in particular. :mad:) to the expectation that other people in the service industries who can't work from home will be making my life still liveable, while I am safe and sound in my little cocoon at home.
 
I don't quite get where you got that impression from? At least I didn't from the past comments.

Edit: Like @sufferinsilence said. I'm just slow to respond :)

Nothing to do with the comments on this thread. My views are from news articles and attendant comments from other sources.

I know I am posting on CM, but the world doesn't begin and end with this forum.
 
I don't disagree with these sentiments at all. I haven't said anything to the contrary, so not sure why the implication is that I have.

It is the selfishness of people that I abhor - from unnecessary stockpiling of goods (toilet paper in particular. :mad:) to the expectation that other people in the service industries who can't work from home will be making my life still liveable, while I am safe and sound in my little cocoon at home.
Not sure where you see that attitude/expectation.
Obviously we should be thankful to the people that work their asses off and have no other choice than to do that.

but by keeping people home etc. you also limit the chance for those who have to work to get sick.
 
I don't disagree with these sentiments at all. I haven't said anything to the contrary, so not sure why the implication is that I have.

It is the selfishness of people that I abhor - from unnecessary stockpiling of goods (toilet paper in particular. :mad:) to the expectation that other people in the service industries who can't work from home will be making my life still liveable, while I am safe and sound in my little cocoon at home.

I understand. I don't like selfishness either.
 
Nothing to do with the comments on this thread. My views are from news articles and attendant comments from other sources.

I know I am posting on CM, but the world doesn't begin and end with this forum.

This was the origin of my confusion. I thought you were reacting to posts in this thread.
 
I don't disagree with these sentiments at all. I haven't said anything to the contrary, so not sure why the implication is that I have.

It is the selfishness of people that I abhor - from unnecessary stockpiling of goods (toilet paper in particular. :mad:) to the expectation that other people in the service industries who can't work from home will be making my life still liveable, while I am safe and sound in my little cocoon at home.

Bars, clubs, movie theatres, restaurants,... will be closed here (Belgium) starting tomorrow night eliminating alot of people working in the entertainment/service industry of catching and spreading the virus.

Sadly a necessary measure because event organisers were getting very "creative" in getting around earlier imposed guidelines.

We'll see in 7 to 10 days from now how this'll work out.
 

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