Confiscated winnings
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I’m quoting the exact questions and responses I get in email from the casino. Been using google translate.
To my understanding it’s the use of BankID that verifies the account, the point I’ve been trying to get across from start.
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If that's their reasoning, BankID sounds like a fraudster's charter. I'm amazed.
I don’t know that. I would never let anyone access my BankID because in Sweden you use that for everything, filing taxes, medical journals and so on.
But yes, I do understand what you mean.
I use face recognition aswell when using BankID.
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The longer this thread goes on, I'm not sure if the OP is stupid, or he thinks we are all stupid.
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I did wonder whether that might be the case in sweden, whereas in the uk personal bank accounts are pretty much available free of charge and can be opened fairly easily.
please explain what you mean by that. I’ve said I’m not up to discuss this anymore but wanted to then update the thread when I got the response from the casino owned by the government. It clearly shows aswell that I never had or will ask for a deposit refund, as you accused me for.
I’m sorry, it’s not the bank account itself that you need to pay for. But if you would like to use the internet bank, or have a card, that’s what you have to pay for.
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Yet you felt the need to contact EVERY casino you used that card to deposit with?.
The mind boggles.
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But you have a huge income, can afford to gamble high stakes, the winnings confiscated were allegedly not that high in proportion to your deposits - but paying for the use of a bank account, exclusively in your name, would be too expensive?
Yes, It is not that many? If i wanted to cheat the system i would have straight up asked them for a refund.
I was quite sure that this was the answer i would get. So whats wrong with having that documented so this story wont repeat itself? IF i chose to ever gamble again.
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Who said anything about it being too expensive??? I never had any use for another account. But yes, i do consider it if i want to gamble again on any new casino.
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"It’s not that easy to just open a new account, and why would I pay for an extra bank account when this has been working before? "
First, it's not that easy. It then changes to easy (in Sweden), but you have to pay for using the account and card. "Why would I pay for an extra bank account" implies that you are not willing to pay for it. Also, did it really work before? Were you able to withdraw massive amounts at other casinos using your partner's card?
First, it's not that easy. It then changes to easy (in Sweden), but you have to pay for using the account and card. "Why would I pay for an extra bank account" implies that you are not willing to pay for it. Also, did it really work before? Were you able to withdraw massive amounts at other casinos using your partner's card?
It depends on what you mean with massive? Over 75k? Yes.
Made the withdrawal using trustly to my own personal account, no problems what so ever.
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Didn't you say the reason why you used your GF card is you didn't want to use your personal account for gambling transaction?
If it is OK to receive money on your personal account from a casino, it should be OK to send money from your personal account to a casino?
Your story does not make a sense at all.
Depositing with a card shows where the transactions is going. Withdrawals with trustly to my experience just shows a number. And like I said I always used this card for online transactions.
stupid, yes maybe.
I still would like to ask a moderator to close the thread, there’s no need to discuss this anymore.
That I didn’t open another bank account and paid for another card has nothing to do with this. Yes, knowing the outcome it would have been convenient to do so. But we all learn from our mistakes right?
stupid, yes maybe.
I still would like to ask a moderator to close the thread, there’s no need to discuss this anymore.
That I didn’t open another bank account and paid for another card has nothing to do with this. Yes, knowing the outcome it would have been convenient to do so. But we all learn from our mistakes right?
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You can't have threads closed, this was mentioned before, so why do you keep asking for this? Also, we all still very much enjoy your credible stories! 
You can't have threads closed, this was mentioned before, so why do you keep asking for this? Also, we all still very much enjoy your credible stories!
As little as my “stories” doesn’t make any sense to you, your arguments doesn’t make any sense to me either.
I did what I thought was right. That’s it. I wish the circumstances around it would be different. Yes.
Knowing the outcomeI wish I used another method depositing, but when it, til this day, doesn’t seem to be a problem at other casinos, I could never have expected it to turn out to a shit throwing party.
Im sorry if I have upset any of you. I just think you are a bit unfair in your accusations when I’m the only one actually knowing the truth.
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Then have some respected lawyer or official body outline what is the only truth in this matter. Your stories are inconsistent, you need to substantiate them.
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I'm contemplating :'' if I should watch porn or continue to read this thread ? '' #Grabs a beer
I don’t think they are. What I know now about my gf is different from when I started the thread. That’s correct.
Then I maybe have had a hard time getting my point across, as it seem most of you have English as mother tongue. It’s not easy when upset and frustrated to explain everything correctly.
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Yes it was
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If you can't deposit to casino due to work. You can just open and verify a ecopayz account to your name and deposit. Done within a week.
Why not gamble at a landbased casino? I get so many questions popping up ... you seem like an underaged kid.
Never use 2 names on 1 account its easy who is who ?
Why not gamble at a landbased casino? I get so many questions popping up ... you seem like an underaged kid.
Never use 2 names on 1 account its easy who is who ?
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Don't blame this on your English. Your stories are clouded by inconsistencies. At the same time, you feel it's important that people understand you and your situation. So, do something - get someone in an official capacity to shed their light on this mess that you've created for yourself. Don't blame other members that they're critical.
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So the answer was actually NO.
As you have changed your story again. You have been telling us since day 1, you have withdrawn all your wins back to the joint account without issues.
Now after 18 pages you say you withdrew your (big) wins to your own personal account.
That is not correct. Dont say things just to make me look bad. You may please tell me where i said this. I never said that.
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Starting to look like you were caught out when you withdrew to your partners card..... you have inferred that at other casinos you used this card to deposit and withdraw and now you are saying that you deposited with this card and withdrew with trustly or bank transfer, thereby bypassing the SE checks.
It looks more and more is if you are playing the system here, asking now if you can claim all your lost deposits back etc, and no way are you as naive as you are acting.
It looks more and more is if you are playing the system here, asking now if you can claim all your lost deposits back etc, and no way are you as naive as you are acting.
As far as I know you have to provide most of the casinos with the credit card anyway, dosent matter what withdrawal method you use. Asked if it was okay and I some cases sent in the authorization form.
If you read the thread you can see that even now, after I talked to the casinos telling them that I wasn’t looking for any kind of refund, but just asking them and told them about my partners SE and the use of the card. The three replies I’ve got so far, one of them being from a casino owned by the Swedish government, says it won’t be an issue to withdraw any winnings.
If I would have tried to cheat any system, why haven’t I requested any refunds?
Your accusations is unfair, unfounded and doesn’t make any sense at all.
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What makes less sense is you asking the SE question at Hyper casino, then playing at Yeti 2 weeks later and using the Hyper chat to try and make it look like everything has been agreed re the card.
Look at the holes in your posts:
All emails/conversations you post are heavily edited to try and show your argument in a good light, i.e the statement by the POGG, you gave one line and missed the first paragraph.
The claim that you had agreed with chat that you could deposit with the card before you deposited to play. What you forgot to add was that the chat was at a different casino.
You claim Yeti have lost the chat in which they agreed you could deposit - ive never known this to happen at any casino I have played at.
You say you deposited/withdrew large sums with the card, but it transpires that the withdrawals were straight to your bank bypassing the card.
You claim that your GF closed the accounts but not due to gambling issues, even though Jan provided the chat where she said she was a bad gambler. Even after this was posted you said it was wrong and didnt prove anything.
You have posted on other sites claiming you have lost millions gambling, yet when someone points that out on here you immediately deny it and say its your GF.
I could go on and on with this, but no point in wasting any time. Its obvious you are a scammer and attention seeker looking sympathy from CM and a payout from L&L.
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There is a few things in this that I don't understand but especially the fact you claim to not knowing about your girlfriends addiction. I don't buy that.
Are you saying that you were not together late last year, or had separate accounts back then? If you share bank account then you both know what the other person is doing all the time.
She must be fully aware where you are playing and for how much, like you have been when it comes to her. As a gambler online you are also fully aware of certain rules when it comes to Self exclusion. You're not stupid and very good at English.
Since the casino can prove what she did I'm sure she told you.
My conclusion: You are both heavy gamblers and play together, both having problems, or you have been the person gambling all along and also used her information.
Getting a new bank account in Sweden takes a few minutes and the cost you are talking about is between €15 - €30 per year.
Are you saying that you were not together late last year, or had separate accounts back then? If you share bank account then you both know what the other person is doing all the time.
She must be fully aware where you are playing and for how much, like you have been when it comes to her. As a gambler online you are also fully aware of certain rules when it comes to Self exclusion. You're not stupid and very good at English.
Since the casino can prove what she did I'm sure she told you.
My conclusion: You are both heavy gamblers and play together, both having problems, or you have been the person gambling all along and also used her information.
Getting a new bank account in Sweden takes a few minutes and the cost you are talking about is between €15 - €30 per year.
You are incorrect in many things.
The Hyper casino question I explained before, I was unable to log on. Jan can probably confirm this.
Yeti didn’t find the conversation because maybe used my other email or misspelled the one I used on the casino. This was before I opened the account.
NEVER claimed I made big withdrawals directly back to the card. That is not true.
Yes, I believed my girlfriend. As I mentioned a hundred times before, at this point I don’t know what to believe.
That forum posts is NOT me. It could be my girlfriend yes, like I said. The person writing those posts have national gambling ban to what I read. If that would have been me I wouldn’t be able to gamble at all. If it is my gf, which I don’t know, there is much of those posts that doesn’t add up to real life. Not gambling related things (that i clearly don’t know shit about) but overall. The only thing that makes sense to me is more or less the username.
I need to talk to my girlfriend, thats for sure. But if it is her writing those posts, theres not much i actually know about her. That user talks about suicide andhow should I handle that?
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@Tirilej has just hit the nail on the head and pointed out what I and others have missed - how come you never noticed the money coming out from the JOINT account when your GF was gambling? If my partner was a problem gambler and depositing from a joint account i know for certain it would appear on the statements and I would recognise that a lot of money was being spent.
Whats your answer to that one???
Whats your answer to that one???
I know I said earlier in the thread that “if she gambled she probably used this card aswell”. So I thought. That I don’t know now. Hoenstly, I did not know about any gambling related problems at all. And I, myself, never experienced any troubles with gambling at all.
I can’t remember exactly when I got access to this account,I can check that and come back with an answer. We have our personal accounts aswell, ofc. EDIT: I used this card because again because I can’t have casino payments on my regular card
If she’s been gambling she’s been hiding it very well during the time we been together.
For me, the only thing that may validate what you say if just a little bit is that my girlfriend actually had a gambling addiction and she’s been lying to me. And I don’t know what to believe when she’s been signing the authorization forms? I know she asked me if I asked the casino if it was okay to use the card but at that point, not knowing anything else, I didn’t think more about it.
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Hey Sajsan, just do it simply - create a list of questions and answers so everyone who visits this thread can see an answer instantly.
Example below:
Example below:
- Are you a gambler with an experience? - yes/no (make one of these bold)
- Did you ask for a refund? - yes/no
- Is Sajsan121212 account belongs to you? - yes/no
- etc...
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Honestly I will probably not believe in you no matter what. As a Swede too I know what people can see and do when it comes to banks and transactions.
I'm also not buying that you had no idea. Why in the world being a partner, sharing an account, but still not communicate or even know what the other person is doing.
If she gambled? She surely knows that you are now. She knows every cent and where you have gambled. She just forgot to mention what she had done???
I won't post more, but I just had to question you.
If you ever needs advice or help in anyway to quit then I'm just a pm away. Until then Good luck!
We have our own acc
I expressed myself in a bad way. I didn’t know then what I’ve been told now. What I meant is I didn’t know about any gambling related problems. It’s a big difference gambling or having a heavy addiction. Right? I won’t go in to much on what I do for a living, but I can say that I travel a lot with work (the reason I can’t use my personal card) so I can’t keep track of what she’s doing all the time.
I will probably leave this thread soon anyway. Yes, people are asking the same questions over and over, and I do my best to answer them. Maybe I change my way how I say things in order to make people understand, and that’s why people claim that I change my story. I don’t know.
Again, the money isn’t that important anymore.
I want people to understand that I was happily gambling, both loosing and winning, and it now turned out that my girlfriend apparently lied to me (?) and been suicidal without me knowing about it. Just fkn imagine.
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So its not a joint account? You were depositing from your GF's account? I thought you had posted earlier it was a joint account but the card was in her name?
It is a joint account. the card is issued in her name. Correct.
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And you didnt see any gambling transactions that she made?
Again, we both have personal accounts and cards aswell. Once again I used this card because I can’t use my own card for gambling transactions. We usually use this card for online transactions. I can repeate myself endlessly, but I did not know about any gambling related problems.
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What a utter load of piffle.
I wouldn’t dream of using my partners card for anything, let alone a few spins.
Your full of the perverbial I’m afraid.
I wouldn’t dream of using my partners card for anything, let alone a few spins.
Your full of the perverbial I’m afraid.
You are as everyone else free to believe whatever you like. This thread is full of unfounded accusations, people being straight up mean and trying to make me look bad.
I have again, so far, three replies from other casino where I explained that my girlfriend apparently have had some kind of gambling problem and is self excluded. They are still fine with the use of the deposits methods issued in her name, with funds from our joint account. Keep in mind that that’s the Swedish government owned casino aswell.
Still, no one have answered my question. If I tried to cheat the system, playing “risk free” as you accused me for, why in the world haven’t I, in all the time I used this card, a single time asked for a refund for all the lost deposits?!
I will gladly prove that.
Why would I contact the casinos beforehand?
For you who actually read the thread, you’ve seen the emails from the government owned casino. I can provide you with the others aswell.
Your accusations is totally unfounded.
I know it’s maybe strange that I can’t use my own card, but I think I explained why without going in to exact details.
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Wich 3 casinos have said they are ok with deposits coming from an account that is shared with a SE-player?
Svenska spel?
I rather not write the brand names. But it’s not Svenska Spel, then there is one left that’s owned by the government and if you are Swedish you know which.
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