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babs7262

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Look at this beauty. For shit sake. What's next? The bank is looking into this one because its so big. I have to go there in the morning

02/28/2008 9:22:13 AM Non sufficient Funds Charge (Reversed) $30.00 X $172.28 Edit
02/28/2008 8:39:56 AM Non sufficient Funds Charge -$30.00 X $142.28 Edit
02/28/2008 8:39:56 AM 5043 Check (RETURNED) $8,000.00 X $172.28 Edit
02/28/2008 8:39:55 AM 5043 Check -$8,000.00 X -$7,827.72 Edit

My bank is getting ridiculous...They know I dont even have checks past 2000 and this one is check number 5043!!! Someone is trying to nail me to the wall and Im getting sick of it! Im not even saying this is a casino related fraud but I will know for sure tomorrow.
 
babs i would close the account. asap. do not give your bank account # out anymore. folks that read my posts know i am hellbent against this. even to accredited casinos. who knows who else has access to that info? netspend for deposit, check or ach to netspend for withdrawl. no banks. period.
 
Babs you prolly already know this but you need to check all 3 credit reports if you are not already using a credit monitoring service which I would not rely on anyway. I would still go to the expense to immediately get all 3 complete credit reports. I can help you on how to if necessary.
 
This bank makes too many mistakes. I am going to close the account and change banks very soon. It's just hard with the checking account because you gotta wait till stuff clears and our only card is a debit visa. I may slowly move funds to another and have two at once keeping a very minimal amount in t here for stuff to clear

Ill find out tomorrow BB, Like I said, Im not blaming any casino at this point or any processor. Ill know tomorrow. If its in the US , prolly phishing, If its a country where I gamble, than it will most likely be that. I just feel Im getting screwed these past two weeks. You cant get paid w/o sending a check copy EXCEPT 3 dice, If it is another country, Ill close out my accounts (after everything clears, dont worry casinos, youll get paid) and get a netspend card
 
babs, if you didn't know already, you're entitled to a free credit report from all 3 reporting agencies. You can get this once a year.

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@jackie:

If a casino offers ACH, you can use your Netspend card to receive the withdrawal. Netspend cards also act like a checking account, without the checks. When you're logged into netspend's site, get the routing number and bank information for direct deposit and provide that to the casino. :thumbsup:

THE GOOD THING ABOUT USING NETSPEND FOR ACH withdrawals:

Netspend will NOT allow charges against the card for ACH. They only accept INCOMING ACH transfers...this way you know you're safe when giving out the "checking account" information. :)
 
winbig said:
babs, if you didn't know already, you're entitled to a free credit report from all 3 reporting agencies. You can get this once a year.
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sidenote:

If a casino offers ACH, you can use your Netspend to receive the withdrawal. Netspend cards also act like a checking account, without the checks. When you're logged into netspend's site, get the routing and bank information for direct deposit and provide that to the casino. :thumbsup:

THE GOOD THING ABOUT USING NETSPEND FOR ACH:

Netspend will NOT allow charges against the card for ACH. They only accept INCOMING ACH transfers ;)
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You took some of the words right out of my mouth!!:p
 
winbig said:
babs, if you didn't know already, you're entitled to a free credit report from all 3 reporting agencies. You can get this once a year.

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@jackie:

If a casino offers ACH, you can use your Netspend card to receive the withdrawal. Netspend cards also act like a checking account, without the checks. When you're logged into netspend's site, get the routing number and bank information for direct deposit and provide that to the casino. :thumbsup:

THE GOOD THING ABOUT USING NETSPEND FOR ACH withdrawals:

Netspend will NOT allow charges against the card for ACH. They only accept INCOMING ACH transfers...this way you know you're safe when giving out the "checking account" information. :)
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Im not sure about it...and I have a netspend card.
Wired plastic surely do accept wire and ach though.
 
BingoT said:
right on 1819
And I would change my bank too.
This way your acct name say they are closed.
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I don't understand this part....why change banks if you can just change your account? Everything would be different except your name right? Meaning who cares if someone had your old account number, you would have a new one.

BingoT, what am I missing?
 
great

winbig said:
babs, if you didn't know already, you're entitled to a free credit report from all 3 reporting agencies. You can get this once a year.

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@jackie:

If a casino offers ACH, you can use your Netspend card to receive the withdrawal. Netspend cards also act like a checking account, without the checks. When you're logged into netspend's site, get the routing number and bank information for direct deposit and provide that to the casino. :thumbsup:

THE GOOD THING ABOUT USING NETSPEND FOR ACH withdrawals:

Netspend will NOT allow charges against the card for ACH. They only accept INCOMING ACH transfers...this way you know you're safe when giving out the "checking account" information. :)
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Tell me which casinos offer netspend withdrawals and i will sign up!!
 
Good grief!! What next?? Babs, I know what a PITA it is to change accounts, but your account has been compromised for quite some time. Maybe you could go ahead and set up an account elsewhere to get things rolling, then move your business over to the new account gradually. and please, if at all possible, get a NETspend or similar card rather than use your bank account details on the internet.

Good luck, hon, and let us know how it goes.
 
winbig said:
babs, if you didn't know already, you're entitled to a free credit report from all 3 reporting agencies. You can get this once a year.

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@jackie:

If a casino offers ACH, you can use your Netspend card to receive the withdrawal. Netspend cards also act like a checking account, without the checks. When you're logged into netspend's site, get the routing number and bank information for direct deposit and provide that to the casino. :thumbsup:

THE GOOD THING ABOUT USING NETSPEND FOR ACH withdrawals:

Netspend will NOT allow charges against the card for ACH. They only accept INCOMING ACH transfers...this way you know you're safe when giving out the "checking account" information. :)
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When I went to the website it looks as though you have to have your pay check direct deposit. I do see the routing info. ( can I use this without signing up for direct deposit) There is also this message
We do not accept deposits via wire transfers. We do not accept printed checks. Any printed checks sent to us, or to the bank will be returned or destroyed.
 
Well

All of your are right. And now that a certain casino can do Visa w/d to USA residents (we just tested it and it worked this morning) I can now get netspend Visa and get my cashouts that way.

You can PM me if you wanna know the casino but I dont want to compromise this casino, sorry, I cant tell you in here ,no dice ! Dont want to take the chance:)

To answer the question to Bingo from another person (sorry, I cant remember who asked lol) The reason why I should change banks is because this bank has made several mistakes. I know I could just change checking accounts but they are really clueless. and Ill tell you why

1. The first fake internet check...had my name spellled wrong on the check and also had the number on the address wrong and they didnt notice

2. I made a deposit one time and they credited someone else' account

3. THis time, look at the check number...It is 5043 right? Well, my checks are up to 1093, I dont even have checks in the 5 thousands yet and ALSO, $8K? Never is my life! Who would write a an 8K when they only have $392 in their checking account after being a loyal customer since the day they opened?

4. And to tell you the truth, my Visa debit card can work at ANY casino. I know , we thought I was lucky......I guess not, because if they can be incompitent(sp) in that way, they are in other ways

I learned my lesson, I didnt get away with anything be being able to use my Visa debit here. If I went out and bought a netspend card this wouldnt of happened.
 
classymom said:
When I went to the website it looks as though you have to have your pay check direct deposit. I do see the routing info. ( can I use this without signing up for direct deposit) There is also this message
We do not accept deposits via wire transfers. We do not accept printed checks. Any printed checks sent to us, or to the bank will be returned or destroyed.
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Well, the thing is, direct deposit = ACH. Wire transfers are totally different. :)

But you are correct about the fact that you don't have to sign up for direct deposit on their site to be able to deposit via ACH...

So basically, any ACH transfer going into your netspend card will be accepted. There's no way for them to tell if it was work related or not.
 
Well
I got one of them, I think it was Experian. The other wont give me my info because of past internet fraud done to me. I have to write them and rquest. The one I did see was accurate (all medical lol), not that thats' funny, but as soon as I saw the ambulance stuff, I knew they were right

Thanks WinBig
 
winbig said:
Well, the thing is, direct deposit = ACH. Wire transfers are totally different. :)

But you are correct about the fact that you don't have to sign up for direct deposit on their site to be able to deposit via ACH...

So basically, any ACH transfer going into your netspend card will be accepted. There's no way for them to tell if it was work related or not.
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What number do I give for routing? assuming that I give the c/c number for checking account number.
Cause they(casinos) do ask this kind of info when asking to withdraw via ACH.
Thanx
 
kakata said:
What number do I give for routing? assuming that I give the c/c number for checking account number.
Cause they(casinos) do ask this kind of info when asking to withdraw via ACH.
Thanx
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Actually, classymom said it best:


classymom said:
Just go to net spend web site and sign up or log in and go to the Direct Deposit section and your routing info will show up.
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Along with the routing number, the account number you need to use should on the same page. You don't use the credit card number for the account number :)


mods: Can we move this thread to America the beautiful? Or maybe move the netspend discussion posts to a new thread in that section?
 
Well, the thing is, direct deposit = ACH. Wire transfers are totally different. :)

But you are correct about the fact that you don't have to sign up for direct deposit on their site to be able to deposit via ACH...

So basically, any ACH transfer going into your netspend card will be accepted. There's no way for them to tell if it was work related or not.
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It's worked for me twice (and I thought I was the only slick one around here...lol). QT wouldn't let me use my Netspend for withdrawals. Now they cut off deposits w/Netspend (but it's a MC, not Visa). I also tried to use a GreenDot Visa for ACH but the wire was refused by the receiving bank. I think there is more info regarding ACH to prepaid cards that has yet to be revealed.
 
bryand said:
It's worked for me twice (and I thought I was the only slick one around here...lol). QT wouldn't let me use my Netspend for withdrawals. Now they cut off deposits w/Netspend (but it's a MC, not Visa). I also tried to use a GreenDot Visa for ACH but the wire was refused by the receiving bank. I think there is more info regarding ACH to prepaid cards that has yet to be revealed.
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I think I was one of the first casualties when Greendot stopped allowing gambling transactions. They were actually a pioneer in their field, because they stopped allowing those transactions from going through way back before the UIGEA was even drafted.

They really fcked alot of people when they did so. I had just gotten that damn card specifically for online gaming. When you sign up, you had the option of paying $20 extra just to have that privilege. Unfortunately in my case, not a month after I got the card, they miracuously changed their T&C to ban online gambling transactions. :rolleyes:

When I called to bitch about it, I also asked for the $20 fee to be refunded. They so graciously said "tough shit." :rolleyes:
 
bryand said:
It's worked for me twice (and I thought I was the only slick one around here...lol). QT wouldn't let me use my Netspend for withdrawals. Now they cut off deposits w/Netspend (but it's a MC, not Visa). I also tried to use a GreenDot Visa for ACH but the wire was refused by the receiving bank. I think there is more info regarding ACH to prepaid cards that has yet to be revealed.
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I have a Visa netspend......is it the same or do I need a mastercard?
 
Winbig............

winbig said:
I think I was one of the first casualties when Greendot stopped allowing gambling transactions. They were actually a pioneer in their field, because they stopped allowing those transactions from going through way back before the UIGEA was even drafted.

They really fcked alot of people when they did so. I had just gotten that damn card specifically for online gaming. When you sign up, you had the option of paying $20 extra just to have that privilege. Unfortunately in my case, not a month after I got the card, they miracuously changed their T&C to ban online gambling transactions. :rolleyes:

When I called to bitch about it, I also asked for the $20 fee to be refunded. They so graciously said "tough shit." :rolleyes:
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I just applied for an AccountNowVisa card and will try it for ACH. But I'm concerned that one of the card's deposit options is a GreenDot reload pak. Any idea??

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And in today's news....
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In data from 2006 FTC complaints, Sprint, AT&T, and Bank of America had more identity theft events than other institutions.
Robert McMillan, IDG News Service
Friday, February 29, 2008 7:50 AM PST


Compromised accounts within just 25 companies account for nearly half of the identity theft complaints filed with the U.S. Federal Trade Commission, according to recently released FTC data compiled by the University of California, Berkeley.

In data culled from three months' worth of 2006 FTC complaints, Sprint and AT&T averaged more identity theft events than any other institution except Bank of America, the largest consumer bank in the U.S.

The FTC encourages victims of identity theft to file complaint forms in order to help the commission, as well as law enforcement organizations, get a picture of criminal trends. It publishes a survey on identity theft, but until now it has not broken down its data on complaints by institution.

That work was done by Berkeley's Center for Law and ...
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As far as I know, and I have researched this alot, Netspend Visa and Wired Plastic Visa are the only cards that don't have the "no online gambling/illegal activity" clause in their T & C's. That said, I use Netspend for ACH withdrawals and Wired Plastic for wire transfers from casinos and Quicktender. As I never fund my Quicktender account, it is only used to get money from a casino, I can't tell you that you can use Wired Plastic to fund it, but they did let me put the information in to set it up as my funding account.

You can't use AccountNowVisas for gambling transactions. I got one and then tossed it.

The only problem with Netsend is you have no recourse if there is a fraudulent purchase on it like you have with a CC or a bank. Always pros and cons. So just be careful.
 
gosh thanks for all the info. i wasnt aware i could make a dep from a casino to my netspend card. i will try it if i ever get to make a nother withdrawl. also just a note that i got a email from netspend the outher day telling me they had temporarily locked my account because my password had been entered 5 times incorrectly. i was shocked because i didnt do that. i emailed them back and thanked them for letting me know. anway it is unlocked and working fine at this time.. i have no money on it unless i reload it to gamble anyway.
 
missmayda said:
I've only done this once, without issue. I wonder if this is for large amts or if I just slipped under the wire?
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I've heard from a few people that had this happen to them...I think you just slipped under the wire :)

I have a hunch that they finally caught on that you could use your Netspend card for gambling and they didn't want any part of it.
 
Im a little worried about this email.....

and Ill tell you why. There is only ONE place that has this email and also the only place I correspond with because for some reason the casino was not getting any of my emails via my comcast so even though I had this yahoo email account I never used it. I have it listed on this site but noone has ever sent me an email via Yahoo from here.ALL email is sent to bulk junk with the exception of this one casino that I JUST gave to them recently. If there is a way to prove that I only got email from this casino and noone else, tell me so I can show you.

Just now I checked the Yahoo incase they needed something from me (this is the first time I really checked it, I dont even go into Yahoo) LOL..there were like 500 bulk to be deleted . I get this email and its not even in bulk, its in my regular inbox. I opened it because all of my junk goes to bulk and this is what it says:


Dear Franklin Mint F.C.U. Customer,


Your account has been suspended due to the following reasons:
1.You have been travelling, and you have accessed your account from different locations.
2.You tried to make external transactions

Measure taken: Account Suspension.

Solution: Update your account immediatelly and restore account access, and if you have not
been travelling please change your password urgently.

To update your account safe and secure on our online branch, please click the link below to continue:
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SECURITY ID : DRBQTJIXNBPQFG
(FMFCU USES AN UNIQUE SECURITY ID IN ORDER TO HELP US IDENTIFY YOU)

Thank you for your cooperation and thank you for choosing Franklin Mint F.C.U.

Regards.


I DONT HAVE A FRANKLIN MINT ACCOUNT? And, I am getting emails from other casinos , infact , here are the headers from them. Who is giving out my email address? It MUST be from here or the casino I gave my Yahoo too. I am going to delete my Yahoo from this site incase there are lurkers who want to steal. Here are the other emails I got in my regular INBOX. I am really getting worried. I flagged this franklin mint one

[email protected] WARNING! SECURITY PROBLEMS Fri Feb 29, 2008 5k

Support RE: Username Babs7262 Thu Feb 28, 2008 20k

Support RE: Username Babs7262 Thu Feb 28, 2008 12k

World Casino Big Money PAYS You to Have FUN!puzz Tue Feb 26, 2008 4k



PS>>DO NOT CLICK ON THOSE BLUE HIGHLIGHTED EMAIL ADDRESSES, I WOULDNT! HOW CAN WE MAKE SO PEOPLE CANT CLICK ON IT, I DONT WANT ANYONE GETTING SCREWED IF THEY DO. IM NOT SURE ITS HARMFUL BUT DONT WANNA TAKE THE CHANCE
 
Calm down, take a deep breath :)

You're getting overly paranoid (with good reason due to the $8K check)...

But anyways:

People send these bank notices out by the millions every day. Of course not everyone will have an account with that particular bank, but some will.

Even if you figure only .1% of those that do have an account at the bank, then if the scammers send out 10,000,000 copies, they're going to get 10,000 hits. Even if they only get .001% of people to respond, there's 1,000 people that they can steal identities from....:eek2:

In reference to having Babs7262 in the email subject, think nothing of it. They can simply put your email username (the whatever@ part) wherever they see fit. They can even setup their spamming software to make it seem that you sent the email to yourself.

Do yourself a favor (and everyone else for that matter) and get off of yahoo, unless you use it for IM or whatever. I did the same myself, and only use yahoo messenger. I have had the account for years, but rarely even bother to look at the emails that come in. When I'm bored I'll look at it for shits & giggles. It's nothing for spam messages to get through to your inbox. Yahoo's mail filters SUCK. If you want an account with great filters, head over to www.gmail.com :D


One last thing, scammers that are trying to get enough information from someone to steal their identity (the professionals, anyways) will ALWAYS include the banks real contact email address in the email. Some even make it so if you reply to the email, it will go through to the actual bank and you won't get a message saying that it bounced. They know it will take most any bank 2-3 days to actually reply, and they want to make it look 100% legitimate. For example, fmfcu.org is the legitimate website for the Franklin Mint Federal Credit Union.
 
Thanks Win

I guess I am acting a bit paranoid but the last few months have contributed to that as you mentioned. I googled the link instead of clicking on it and it did indeed take you to the Frankin Mint website! It also showed this fraudulant email on their website and said to delete it right away.

I guess Ill open a gmail and get rid of Yahoo, I dont use it for anything. As I said, I only used it this week because a casino couldnt get their emails to me
 
OK, found out what happened

I made a payment to Peco via mycheckfree.com , I have a receipt for this $80payment too. Someone either at CheckFree or Peco typed in $8,000.00 in error. Now, I have to wait for everything to clear before I can make the original $80 payment. When I asked if any bounced check charges will be removed , she said "Im not sure, youll have to wait and see"


I hate Peco, their customer service gives no answers and it took teeth pulling to get a supervisor because the person that answered the phone didnt want to help me because the bill was in Rich's name. I told her considering that this is a huge error and it effects my bank, Im sure they would make an exception. She kept saying no and I kept saying "I need help now" LOL...I asked for a supervisor 3 times, she finally gave in and put me on hold. After a minute, she came back and helped me.

OK, Ive had enough for this week, infact, the next 6 months LOL. Im just happy that it was an error and not fraud, in which I really didnt think it was fraud because of the amount

Oh more funny thing....the supervisor said "So, that means we will credit your bank account $8K ok? LMAO, I should of said OK!, I said "um, i dont have $8k sitting in my account, it bounced" I wanted to add "you frikin moron" but i didnt :)
 

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