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I don't want to derail the other thread anymore than it has already been, so I thought we could dissect some casino T&Cs here. Maybe no one is interested (?), but I think since this issue has been brought to light, we should perhaps reread and re-interprete what the players are facing. I know, I wasn't really satisfied with some of the answers from xxxx xxxxx, I felt the rep was skirting pertinent questions.
So,not picking on xxxx xxxxxx, just they are in the limelight so to speak right now...
xxxx xxxxx Casino Terms and Conditions...
Players Representation and Warranties
1. The Player is at least 18 years of age or has reached the legal age of maturity in his/her jurisdiction, whichever is greater. Full-time Students who are enrolled in a College or University are not permitted to play in the Casino.
2. The xxxxxx operation of virtual casino gambling is directed only towards players, who by the laws of their home jurisdiction, are not prohibited from gambling on the Internet through the application of the software. Some jurisdictions have not yet addressed the legality of the use of software for gambling, while some jurisdictions have specifically made Internet gambling illegal. It is impossible for xxxxxx to determine the state of the law in every jurisdiction around the world on an ongoing basis. Therefore, the Player accepts sole responsibility for determining the laws that apply in his/her jurisdiction. The Player is responsible for any consequences that may transpire as a result of his/her not determining the legality of Internet gaming in his/her jurisdiction.
3. Commercial use of xxxxxx is strictly forbidden. The Player will play only for private and non-professional purposes. Before placing bets, the Player is responsible for verifying the laws on gambling which governs the place where the xxxxxx client is used. The Player fully understands the rules of the games and the procedures involved in Internet gambling through use of this software application.
4. The Player will use this software application to gamble on the Internet for his/her private and personal use only and not for the use of others. The Player is obliged to keep his/her User-ID and Password secret and confidential. Any use of the software application through the Player's User-ID is the sole responsibility of the Player. The Player will not allow any third party or person, including and without limitation to any minor, to use his/her account to place wagers or participate in the games in any way.
5. The software is protected under applicable copyright laws. Title, ownership and all intellectual property rights in the software remain with xxxxxx, including images, photographs, animations, video, audio, music and text that may be part of the software. Copying, redistribution or publication of any of the content or part of the software is strictly prohibited. Title, ownership and all intellectual property rights in the name xxxx xxxxxCasinos remain with xxxxxx, as the case may be.
6. The xxxxxx game server has been checked by a third party accounting firm and was found to supply fair odds and to comply with the laws and regulations of the nations of Curacao. The Player accepts all outcomes of game results as received in the client application from xxxxxx game server. The Player fully accepts and agrees that xxxxxx random number generator software will determine the outcome of the Games.
7. The Player is fully aware of the fact that there is the risk of losing money through the use of this software. The Player hereby accepts that xxxxxx reserves its right to limit and/or refuse the Player's wagers. In the event of any dispute regarding a wager or winnings, the decision of xxxxxx shall be final and binding.
8. The Player is fully responsible for any taxes and fees applicable to winnings resulting from use of the software. If winnings are taxable in the Player's jurisdiction, the Player is required to keep track and report the winnings to the appropriate authorities.
9. The casinos in the xxxxxx Group will accept deposits in the following currencies only: US Dollars (USD); UK Pounds (GBP) and Euros (EUR). The currency for all withdrawals is determined by the player's chosen account currency. Only players from the UK are entitled to play in GBP. Any players from outside the UK are welcome to play in either USD or EURO. Players from the UK are entitled to play in any currency they choose.
10. xxxx xxxxx does not currently accept any real money wagers from the legal jurisdictions of the Netherlands Antilles, Costa Rica, Israel or the area of Markham in Canada.
11. With the exception of Network Progressive Jackpot wins, the maximum withdrawal per week is $/£/€3,000. As such cash out requests of a larger amount will be paid in weekly instalments.
12. The player is required to provide their complete, current and full personal details, including a phone number where they can be contacted. Incomplete, inaccurate or fraudulent information may result in the player’s account being closed and any bonuses and winnings being removed.
13. xxxxxx reserves the right to withhold any pay out or winning amount until the identity of the winning person is verified to our satisfaction. For this purpose, we further reserve the right, at our sole discretion, to require that the Player provides us with a notarized ID or any equivalent certified ID according to the applicable laws of your jurisdiction.
14. You are allowed only one active account. Winnings will only be paid to players having one account per household, computer, IP address or business address. If you have more than one account all winnings will be void.
15. Employees of the Company and members of their immediate families are not eligible to register as a player at any xxxxxx property or participate in any gaming at the Casino.
16. xxxxxx operates a zero tolerance policy to fraud and utilises a range of measures to identify fraudulent behaviour which is not limited to our platform. By opening an account with xxxxxx the player understands that fraudulent behaviour perpetrated against any online Casino Operator or Payment Service Provider may result in the account balance held with xxxxxx being forfeit.
17. We reserve the right to process any withdrawals from casino accounts via the method(s) used to fund the account wherever possible.
18. In cases where players are participating in strategies or patterns of play that xxxxxx in its sole discretion deems to be abusive we reserve the right, prior to closing the account, to deduct any processing costs associated with the account from the value of the final payment. You will be notified in advance of any deductions of this nature being made.
19. Players are permitted only one pending game at any one time. In cases where players have multiple pending games any balance in the account may be forfeited.
20. We reserve the right to delay payment of any winnings derived from an eCheck deposit method until the deposited funds have cleared. If the funds do not clear we reserve the right to void any winnings or balance in the account.
21. We reserve the right to reduce the balance in dormant accounts once the period of inactivity exceeds 180 days. Should you wish for these funds to be returned to your balance please contact customer services who will be glad to arrange this for you.
22. By installing and using this software the player hereby agrees to have fully read and understood the above 'terms and conditions' and so agrees to be bound by them. In the event of any disputes, all decisions made by the casino will be final.
Bonus Terms and Conditions
1. All bonuses are unredeemable and so cannot be withdrawn as winnings. Players may withdraw winnings from wagers made using bonus chips, but the bonus chips themselves cannot be withdrawn and will be removed when any subsequent withdrawal is processed.
2. All Bonuses will be given only once per household, business address, IP address and/or per account, as per our terms of use. If a duplicate account is opened it will be closed and all bonuses and winnings will be considered void.
3. xxxxxx reserves the right to refuse or rescind bonus credits and offerings, or prevent future access to xxxxxx for any reason at its sole discretion.
4. Only one free bonus can be claimed on any account before the first deposit is completed. If an account is funded entirely with a free bonus, in addition to our other requirements, an approved deposit is necessary to validate the account before any withdrawals will be processed.
5. All bonuses carry a wagering requirement that is to be completed on a specific selection of games. Any wagers made on games that are excluded from the wagering requirement before the wagering requirement is completed will result in the bonus and any winnings being void. The player must be aware of and accept these terms and conditions before playing the bonus.
6. Bets placed on Baccarat, Craps, Roulette games and Sic Bo do not count towards the wagering requirements of any bonus unless otherwise stated.
7. Wagers are made from the player’s cash balance first and the bonus chips second.
8. Winnings derived from game features triggered while the bonus is active count as part of the original promotion
9. If a bonus has a timeframe and the conditions are not met within this timeframe, the bonus and any winnings from the bonus will be removed.
10. Only the original recipients of the promotions distributed by CWCUSD are permitted to claim the associated offers.
11. There is no maximum cashout restriction on our new player welcome offers.
12. The maximum cashout on all non-deposit bonuses is 5x the bonus amount and the timeframe is 30 days unless stated otherwise.
13. Any comp points accrued before the first approved deposit, or any winnings derived from them are subject to the maximum cashout restriction of the free bonus used.
14. Any winnings derived from a Slots Tournament where the buy-in was paid using a non-deposit bonus must be wagered fifty (50) times before a withdrawal is permitted.
14. Any winnings derived from a Slots Tournament where the buy-in was paid using a non-deposit bonus must be wagered fifty (50) times before a withdrawal is permitted.
16. If a player does not wish to receive bonuses then they can play with no restrictions by simply not redeeming any coupons. If a coupon is claimed in error please contact support by email, phone or live chat before depositing or playing so that your account can be adjusted.
17. Utilization of a coupon shall be deemed to represent acceptance of all terms and conditions associated with the use of promotional coupons stated above. Players are not required to use coupons when depositing and should not do so without a complete understanding of these terms and conditions.
Okay, I have highlighted the items I feel need better explaining.
1) This is already an issue with an ongoing thread.
B]1. The Player is at least 18 years of age or has reached the legal age of maturity in his/her jurisdiction, whichever is greater. Full-time Students who are enrolled in a College or University are not permitted to play in the Casino.[/B]
Sorry, but unless rewritten, this is NOT stating that ONLY 18 year old, full-time students are emempt from playing in the casino. MY interpretation is you MUST be a minimum of 18 years old to play in the casino. Full-time students (no age restriction on this?) cannot play in the casino, does this INCLUDE persons who have gone back to school to change careers, further a career, etc?
2)7. The Player is fully aware of the fact that there is the risk of losing money through the use of this software. The Player hereby accepts that CWCUSD reserves its right to limit and/or refuse the Player's wagers. In the event of any dispute regarding a wager or winnings, the decision of CWCUSD shall be final and binding.
At which point in time does the casino enforce this? And what are some of the determining points for the casino to come to this conclusion?
3)12. The player is required to provide their complete, current and full personal details, including a phone number where they can be contacted. Incomplete, inaccurate or fraudulent information may result in the player’s account being closed and any bonuses and winnings being removed.
What does the casino consider current and full personal details?
4)13. xxxxxx reserves the right to withhold any pay out or winning amount until the identity of the winning person is verified to our satisfaction. For this purpose, we further reserve the right, at our sole discretion, to require that the Player provides us with a notarized ID or any equivalent certified ID according to the applicable laws of your jurisdiction.
What does the casino consider worthy of a notarized ID?
5)19. Players are permitted only one pending game at any one time. In cases where players have multiple pending games any balance in the account may be forfeited.
Can you please explain this more clearly? What is considered a pending game?
6)Under Bonus Terms and Conditions...
8. Winnings derived from game features triggered while the bonus is active count as part of the original promotion
So, does this mean any money won from a free spin round or bonus round must still meet the criteria (WR) from the promo used? Say I won $15 in a free spin feature, would this $15 now have to meet a WR?
7)14. Any winnings derived from a Slots Tournament where the buy-in was paid using a non-deposit bonus must be wagered fifty (50) times before a withdrawal is permitted.
I thought you couldn't use ND bonuses to play in tournaments?
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