Captain Cooks group in trouble?

[Stanford]

there so many shortcomings to your post i don't know where to begin

Yes that's the way I see it too. I would not spend much time on Joann's post. I can give you the short version. She is an affiliate that makes money from these casinos and doesn't like her nest disturbed.

If you can find her site, it is always nice to post it for players. Affiliates that approve of taking players money after they meet the wagering are in need of outing.

imho,
Stanford.

 

[Vesuvio]

If you can find her site, it is always nice to post it for players. Affiliates that approve of taking players money after they meet the wagering are in need of outing.

This is the generic banner farm in question: Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)

 

[Aindreas_Daoc]

Yes that's the way I see it too. I would not spend much time on Joann's post. I can give you the short version. She is an affiliate that makes money from these casinos and doesn't like her nest disturbed.

If you can find her site, it is always nice to post it for players. Affiliates that approve of taking players money after they meet the wagering are in need of outing.

imho,
Stanford.

Ah, so the truth comes out. Anything for a buck, eh Joann? Disgusting.

Maybe there shoudl be an "Evil Affiliate" section, to go along with "Evil Player" and "Evil Casino".

 

[StinkBug]

yeah, that post reeked of "casino property"....


Some of us actually like playing BJ but know that it is a negative sum game and feel that the bonuses, while lucrative, give us a decent chance at playing without losing too much. This whole fiasco is just pure greed. The casinos made there bed and now they must sleep in it (or cheat the players, yes, CHEAT).

I was removing my money from CCC anyway AS SOON AS I COULD CLEAR MY DEPOSIT becuase their software crashes my computer or closes itself for no reason. Then they tried to change the WR on me in the middle of it. Why would I not try to hurry and remove my money from this site? First, bad software...second, they tried to cheat me....now, THEY ARE CHEATING ME.

 

[Joannmel]

Well....I guess I am not entitled to my opinion because I hold an affiliate with ICL....

The thing I don't get is what exactly makes me an evil affiliate....

It can't be because I do not listen to the members of my forum....

In fact I have yet to receive an email complaint from any of my members with regards to ICL..but I have received many about other groups...

Is it because I promote a casino that I wouldn't play at or trust myself....

nope that isn't it....my neteller reflects that....it is the Microgaming casino group that I deposit at the most, and that would be because of their excellent support staff and the way I have been treated as a player there long before I ever held the affiliate...

I guess my opinion as a player doesn't matter either since I am an affiliate. Well...that is not very fair is it...
You have no idea wether or not my affiliate even makes any money so your snap to judgement of me is entirely based on a guess.

Guess again...
It seems to me that Integrity isn't the only casino group sadly effected by advantage players...
It began with Global-Player and the loss of good promotions over the antics of an elite group of players.
At least they are elite as far as they are concerned..
Referspot also has been hit hard by the very type of players that Integrity is attempting to isolate with their auditing and freezing of accounts. Anyone who has been denied a bonus at one of those casinos and has been enraged can also thank the type of players in question for their new policies and restrictions.

I have yet to have one credible complaint while promoting this group of casinos....
But then again I wouldn't .....
I banned the advantage players way back when Global-Player was the effected casino.
Remember guys?

 

[Vesuvio]

The thing I don't get is what exactly makes me an evil affiliate....

I think it's got something to do with blundering into a thread with a prejudiced and poorly thought-out opinion that's a direct insult to half of the posters That and not caring if a casino plays by its own terms and conditions or not.

It can't be because I do not listen to the members of my forum....

Who exactly are your members? As far as I could tell from reading it these ezboard casino forums seem just to be visited by the owners of other boards making spurious posts - in one section "It's Monday", "Today's Tuesday" made up most of the posts. If I was being cynical I'd assume it was just a scam whereby you play at casinos through each other's affiliate links (or try to make the board look popular to pull in traffic). If there's any value at all to your board (it can't be for the innane discussion) it would be in the bonus offers posted - which makes it a bit ironic for you to jump on some moral high horse about advantage players.

In fact I have yet to receive an email complaint from any of my members with regards to ICL..but I have received many about other groups...

So if you haven't received a complaint there can't be a problem with the group and everything's fine!?!?!!? All the complaints posted here and elsewhere are made up? They only come from the "wrong" type of player? Please think before you post.

nope that isn't it....my neteller reflects that....it is the Microgaming casino group that I deposit at the most, and that would be because of their excellent support staff and the way I have been treated as a player there long before I ever held the affiliate...

Most would agree the majority of MG casinos are ok - though you can't generalise. I wouldn't talk about the excellent support staff at River Nile or Golden Riviera.

I guess my opinion as a player doesn't matter either since I am an affiliate. Well...that is not very fair is it...

You dismiss other opinions, insult people and quote them without attributing the quotes and are worried about others being unfair to you

I have yet to have one credible complaint while promoting this group of casinos....
But then again I wouldn't .....
I banned the advantage players way back when Global-Player was the effected casino.

How do you ban 'advantage players'? If I was stupid enough to have clicked on one of the links while browsing your site and then went on to make money at the casino what are you going to do about it? I know you'd prefer me to lose as your commision's based on that, but I don't see how you can force me to play slots!

Your faith in ICL is touching despite the evidence suggesting they've just been screwing around with everyone recently (if you read this thread you'd notice most of us have said they were a decent casino group in the past - it's just some of us are capable of changing our opinions based on events).

If you want to start a new thread on the morality or otherwise of bonus hunting in comparison to operating an on-line casino or operating an affiliate website please be my guest. Otherwise I'd suggest you're the one trying to derail this thread.

 

[555YY]

Well....I guess I am not entitled to my opinion because I hold an affiliate with ICL....

The thing I don't get is what exactly makes me an evil affiliate....

It can't be because I do not listen to the members of my forum....

In fact I have yet to receive an email complaint from any of my members with regards to ICL..but I have received many about other groups...

Is it because I promote a casino that I wouldn't play at or trust myself....

nope that isn't it....my neteller reflects that....it is the Microgaming casino group that I deposit at the most, and that would be because of their excellent support staff and the way I have been treated as a player there long before I ever held the affiliate...

I guess my opinion as a player doesn't matter either since I am an affiliate. Well...that is not very fair is it...
You have no idea wether or not my affiliate even makes any money so your snap to judgement of me is entirely based on a guess.

Guess again...
It seems to me that Integrity isn't the only casino group sadly effected by advantage players...
It began with Global-Player and the loss of good promotions over the antics of an elite group of players.
At least they are elite as far as they are concerned..
Referspot also has been hit hard by the very type of players that Integrity is attempting to isolate with their auditing and freezing of accounts. Anyone who has been denied a bonus at one of those casinos and has been enraged can also thank the type of players in question for their new policies and restrictions.

I have yet to have one credible complaint while promoting this group of casinos....
But then again I wouldn't .....
I banned the advantage players way back when Global-Player was the effected casino.
Remember guys?

hi there, the only reason i got on your case is b/c you used some very faulty logic to back up/support your initial post. i addressed some (not close to all) of them in my response. i noticed that you have not answered even one of the questions i posed in my response post, would you like to? if you can answer them then that certainly goes a long way to proving your credibility, at least in my eyes.

other than that, i do agree that some of the name calling by some of the new posters can be avoided. you're an evil affiliate, he's a bonus abuser; boohoo this and waah waaah that. i don't think you're on trial here b/c you promoted ICL per se, hell i agree there's a lot worse casinos out there that you can be promoting. it's because you backed up your assertions with illogical reasoning, which struck up a personal cord with me.

anyways, go ahead and prove me wrong by answering some of the hypothetical scenarios i laid for you

 

[Freudian]

Joannmel, you have got it all wrong. The player-casino relationship doesn't have to be all that complicated. A bonus offer is a simple business contract. The contract says "if you, the player, does x you will recieve y". Very simple.

The problem is that the casino now says "well, you did x, but we don't like they way you did x so we will not give you y". This is of course simple theft. The fact that you make money from this casino or don't like players who use a bonus doesn't change this fact.

Hopefully the new owners will choose not to walk down the boulevard of scum, but instead erase the bad decisions of the previous owners.

 

[caruso]

This was posted by Cindy Carley on the Sucks board (copying without permission, hope she doesn't mind) as a statement from the Casino Rewards group:

...on the bonus/withheld wagering issues, we are putting a top priority on it. We had nothing to do with what Integrity did or how this issue began, and this issue started long before we were in talks with them.
We will be taking over some responsibilities come Tuesday, and should be able to do a full check on their policies and what they have done. We should be able to get to the bottom of all the issues quickly, but please have patience with us because we only know what we have seen online also so we are as much in the dark as everyone else. But, I would like to assure everyone we will pay all players and affiliates who deserve payments. -Casino Rewards Admin

 

[profiler]

Quote from Caruso's Casino Rewards Admin quote:

''(...) We had nothing to do with what Integrity did or how this issue began, and this issue started long before we were in talks with them. (...)''

This issue started long before Casino Rewards were in talk with ICL. What is that? The stalling started around march 10th didn't it?

 

[pumacat]

Puma which gambling website do you own??
__________________
Have A FABULOUS Day!! ~SlotChik

Don't you know lol, you have been to each of them many times.

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Ok now, As I have read the entire thing, I have a few resonable questions concering all this talk about advatage players or green chip players. I hope someone can answer me cause Id really like to be informed.

What is a green chip player? and why are they an advantage player?

In regards to jonammels comments, I tend to agree with her pretty well on everything she said in her opinions of the casino group. Not only have I had no problems ever with them, My boards that i either own, or work for have shown no complaints, other than something regarding playthrough requirements at casino classic some time back. but even that was resolved. The casinos in question, captain cook and casino kingdom, have not been on any black list, have never been late with payments ( to my knowledge ) to either players or affiliates. If you really take a step back from all this and just compare everything this forum has produced concerning rogue casinos, and you will simply see, that Captains group, is not deserving of this at all.

I myself will continue to show support for these casinos regardless of what is said here as that is my choice, as is your to not support them. i would think that we could respect each others opinions in this case.

Now...

How do you ban 'advantage players'? If I was stupid enough to have clicked on one of the links while browsing your site and then went on to make money at the casino what are you going to do about it?

That comment was totally uncalled for. what do you mean, are you saying the forum or website is full of no good casino links? I think not, cause these people running these boards put in alot of time promoting good casinos, so if you were smart, you would click.

Who exactly are your members? As far as I could tell from reading it these ezboard casino forums seem just to be visited by the owners of other boards making spurious posts - in one section "It's Monday", "Today's Tuesday" made up most of the posts. If I was being cynical I'd assume it was just a scam whereby you play at casinos through each other's affiliate links (or try to make the board look popular to pull in traffic).

You have to be the most clueless person ever to have made a comment like that. Yeah thats what we all do, we scam the entire buisness. get a grip ! Like I said above, i myself put many hours into my boards, and I dont appreciate your way off comments suggesting that we all just screw around and give each other credits. I have 7000 members that I work hard with each and every day to get them the best bang for their buck. So dont tell me that I dont !

So if you haven't received a complaint there can't be a problem with the group and everything's fine!?!?!!? All the complaints posted here and elsewhere are made up? They only come from the "wrong" type of player? Please think before you post.

Wrong again, what she was saying is that over all, there have been no complaints. Not just her board, not just my board and as you know, we all visit each other and ive not seen any complaints at any board.

Joannmel, you have got it all wrong. The player-casino relationship doesn't have to be all that complicated. A bonus offer is a simple business contract. The contract says "if you, the player, does x you will recieve y". Very simple.

I agree with this comment, the bonus does not have to be difficult, although some people make it more complicated than it really is.

I intend to continue to show support for this group, and I will do everything in my power to see that they stay afloat after all is said and done.

This is my right.

Thank you

Puma

 

[Vesuvio]

If you really take a step back from all this and just compare everything this forum has produced concerning rogue casinos, and you will simply see, that Captains group, is not deserving of this at all.

Pumacat - everyone agrees this group had a good track record. That doesn't change the fact they lost the plot recently, stalled payments and stole, or planned to steal, from players.

I myself will continue to show support for these casinos regardless of what is said here as that is my choice, as is your to not support them. i would think that we could respect each others opinions in this case.

You do realise this casino group has ceased to exist? If you support them now you're supporting Casino Rewards. You can choose to ignore the facts, rational arguments and ethics, but it's asking a bit much to expect your opinion to be respected if you do so.

That comment was totally uncalled for. what do you mean, are you saying the forum or website is full of no good casino links? I think not, cause these people running these boards put in alot of time promoting good casinos, so if you were smart, you would click.

I was saying I'd be mad to click on the link of an affiliate who thinks it's ok for a casino not to pay out to a player who took up a bonus, played by the rules of that bonus, and won. As I'm an 'advantage player' (I usually play at casinos when I have an edge) I'm apparently banned anyway, however that works.

By the way, I thought most of the links at her website were ok, though I did spot Royal Dutch in there.

You have to be the most clueless person ever to have made a comment like that. Yeah thats what we all do, we scam the entire buisness. get a grip ! Like I said above, i myself put many hours into my boards, and I dont appreciate your way off comments suggesting that we all just screw around and give each other credits. I have 7000 members that I work hard with each and every day to get them the best bang for their buck. So dont tell me that I dont!

I'm not sure about clueless. I was just trying to work out how all these very similar 'forums' work. You've confirmed you post at each other's sites, but perhaps you do somehow draw in enough outsiders to make money. I see from your sales pitch for 'Puma's Cat' (700+ members) that you put potential earnings from the forum at $800-1000 a month.

Wrong again, what she was saying is that over all, there have been no complaints. Not just her board, not just my board and as you know, we all visit each other and ive not seen any complaints at any board.

Isn't this a board too? Or is everything outside the ezboard forums an illusion?

I intend to continue to show support for this group, and I will do everything in my power to see that they stay afloat after all is said and done.

I'm afraid the fat lady beat you to it

 

[caruso]

There appears to be a post-Easter spam-campaign on the part of ezeboard banner farm trolls which isn't helping to keep this ontrack.

The matter in hand is the bonus theft perpetrated by this former casino group. Happy-chappie ezeboard farmers' healthy profiteering is NOT an issue here. I'm sure you've made a packet with them, and will continue to make a packet with all the banners in your farmyard. Good luck to you and your collective consciences.

It remains absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the discussion.

 

[unicorn40]

Hey Puma...

Pumacat just opened a website called:

"Puma Wizard Of Oddz"

Gee Puma, wonder if Michael Schackleford will be pleased...

Since that is a 'Blatant Rip Off' of his well known website.

It figures someone like you would be on here spouting the virtues of a group that has 'ripped off' players...

This is Pumacats 'Rip Off' site... Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)

 

[Stanford]

Pumacat just opened a website called:

"Puma Wizard Of Oddz"

Gee Puma, wonder if Michael Schackleford will be pleased...

... It figures someone like you would be on here spouting the virtues of a group that has 'ripped off' players...

LOL. Thanks Unicorn. We need some comic relief to kill some time while the watchdogs do what they do. Speaking of killing time, we could open our own affiliate and call it CasinoMister - sort of like Mr. Casino backwards. Well, maybe not. But I bet somebody does.

Puma - to answer your question - if you support taking moneys from players after they have met the wagering requirements and direct players to those that do, you are an evil affiliate.

Caruso, thanks for posting that. I am not surprised that Casino Rewards is denying any involvement. I notice they don't make the obvious statement that they will never forfeit a player's bonus/winnings after meeting original terms, other than fraud. And that *all*non-fraud players whose funds were confiscated will have their funds returned to them - even those that don't contact watchdogs. So, I remain skeptical.

Stanford.

 

[rkayn]

Quote from Caruso's Casino Rewards Admin quote:

''(...) We had nothing to do with what Integrity did or how this issue began, and this issue started long before we were in talks with them. (...)''

This issue started long before Casino Rewards were in talk with ICL. What is that? The stalling started around march 10th didn't it?

Yes, starting up with not only a lie but an obvious lie isn't very reassuring, is it? And then when you consider the last part:

" I would like to assure everyone we will pay all players and affiliates who deserve payments. -Casino Rewards Admin"

Not everything to every player who is owed money, but merely "players ... who deserve payments". And who decides which players are "deserving", and what are the criteria? This is the same question that ICL never quite got around to answering.

 

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[The Dude]

There appears to be a post-Easter spam-campaign on the part of ezeboard banner farm trolls which isn't helping to keep this ontrack.

The matter in hand is the bonus theft perpetrated by this former casino group. Happy-chappie ezeboard farmers' healthy profiteering is NOT an issue here. I'm sure you've made a packet with them, and will continue to make a packet with all the banners in your farmyard. Good luck to you and your collective consciences.

It remains absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the discussion.

I agree. This thread needs to remain on track. Please no more webmaster discussions - these are welcome in the "Webmasters Corner". If you are webmaster a site, I would recomend requesting access for posting privilages there. Thanks!

Things are slow at the moment since there was a four day holiday for most of us. I'm sure the questions that need answering will be done this week -- I hope.

 

[The Dude]

...Now that the bleeding heart and innocent recreational gamblers who have posted in and completely railroaded this thread and The Casinomeister himself has come out of the closet as advocate for this groupIm supposing that all casinos are now going to cower in the corner in fear of the kind of drubbing this site now trumpets as work well done , and Bonus Scabbery will remain the growth industry of the modern times....

What I hate is when people take my words out of context, or only half-read what I have written. I am not coming out of any "closet" and I am not advocating any kind of group or behaviour. If you are going to try and paraphrase what I have said, or explain what I have done - do it correctly please - not in some half-assed manner.

 

[profiler]

I received the following email today:

"As yet the audit of your account has not yet been completed, and your account still remains locked. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause, and would like to take this time to thank you for your patience during this process. We are currently 30% of the way through this investigation and we anticipate this should be completed by the 15th April. Please note that all genuine players will be paid. We will be in touch immediately upon a change in the status of your account.

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[Nomad]

I received the following email today:

"As yet the audit of your account has not yet been completed, and your account still remains locked. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause, and would like to take this time to thank you for your patience during this process. We are currently 30% of the way through this investigation and we anticipate this should be completed by the 15th April. Please note that all genuine players will be paid. We will be in touch immediately upon a change in the status of your account.

Regards
Accounts Crew
Integrity Casinos LTD
www.captaincookscasino.com
www.casinokingdom.com
www.casinoclassic.com"

I just got this as well. Do they honestly expect us to wait 5 weeks and not be pissed? They told us 7 days, then 10 days later it was "7 days" again. Now this. How are we really supposed to believe anything they say? I guess I've waited long enough...time to finally PAB...

 

[jetset]

Looks like another inconsistency here - the audit is only "30 percent of the way through", yet it is already way over ICL's original 7 day timeline?

Either someone is misleading players here or there was a gross misjudgement of operational capability on embarking on this exercise.

 

[kokoneezz]

"Please note that all genuine players will be paid."

I guess I'm one of the special players, I get paid from all 3 casino's.
No problems here.

 

[jpsartre]

Funny, I recieved the following email today:

"The audit of your account has been completed, and your account has been unlocked. We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused, and would like to take this time to thank you for your ongoing patience."

I lost my bonus and deposit when playing at Casino Classic so I wasn't even aware I was being audited or that my account had been locked. They never informed me of this either. At least they should get the accounts with a pending withdrawel out of the way first instead of spending their time auditing accounts where no withdrawel is even made...

 

[Nomad]

Funny, I recieved the following email today:

"The audit of your account has been completed, and your account has been unlocked. We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused, and would like to take this time to thank you for your ongoing patience."

I lost my bonus and deposit when playing at Casino Classic so I wasn't even aware I was being audited or that my account had been locked. They never informed me of this either. At least they should get the accounts with a pending withdrawel out of the way first instead of spending their time auditing accounts where no withdrawel is even made...

Interestingly enough, I received the email that I quoted above as well as the one you mention within less than an hour of each other. The one that said April 15 was from Cooks and the one saying that my account was unlocked was from Classic. Of course, I only have money at Cooks... Something just doesn't seem right here.

They have already told me that I am a "loyal and genuine player" and that I would be paid, in pretty clear terms. However, my account remains locked and payment has not been made. I played the Cooks account no differently than the Classic account.

Oh well...I have Pitched a Bitch now, so hopefully Bryan can help me get my money back.

Bryan, if you don't mind me asking, what's the PAB count up to now?

Thanks for taking the time to help!

 

[Nomad]

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Hmmm...they will work tirelessly to *ensure* no disruption of service, including processing of withdrawals. I with they'd tell their accounts department that because it seems as if the processing of my withdrawal (along with many others) has been disrupted for 3 weeks now.

 

[The Dude]

...
Bryan, if you don't mind me asking, what's the PAB count up to now?...

It's about 24. The ones that came in over the weekend haven't been forwarded yet - should happen sometime later today.

 

[profiler]

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[caruso]

I got it also: "The audit of your account has been completed, and your account has been unlocked. We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused, and would like to take this time to thank you for your ongoing patience."

Which is great - except that I have no money in any of these accounts and had no idea anything had been locked in the first place, LOL. I DID play at Classic, just the once, and cashed out a small win. How this does not then qualify me as an Evil Skimmer With Suspect Wagering, I don't know. Presumably to qualify as Evil One you need to have a pending cashout from the more recent times when funds started to run short.

In other words, this "audit" is plainly rampantly inconsistent - which should surprise noone.

 

[Macgyver]

I got it also: "The audit of your account has been completed, and your account has been unlocked. We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused, and would like to take this time to thank you for your ongoing patience."

Which is great - except that I have no money in any of these accounts and had no idea anything had been locked in the first place, LOL. I DID play at Classic, just the once, and cashed out a small win. How this does not then qualify me as an Evil Skimmer With Suspect Wagering, I don't know. Presumably to qualify as Evil One you need to have a pending cashout from the more recent times when funds started to run short.

In other words, this "audit" is plainly rampantly inconsistent - which should surprise noone.

Ditto on just about everything caruso said ... was in my mail this morning, but had no idea the account(s) were even locked as I haven't played there in forever (except for Classic when it first opened).

P.S. Oh, my email came from Classic, but the return address is [email protected]?? Guess they don't want any replies, huh?

 

[Black21Jack]

This is so ridiculous. Get over it already. They merged with CR, who cares. I have never had any problems with CR casinos paying me on my non bonus withdrawals. If you don't like Casino Rewards just don't play at any of their casinos, simple. The merger of Integrity with CR was in no way deceitful or sneaky, businesses merge all the time. Constant bitching and complaining, wah wah, will not change what has happened. You had no money in your Classic accounts but were informed that they havd been locked and re opened? so what, no harm done. Why bitch about it? I have decided not to play at the three casinos in question due to their unfair changing of the terms regarding GBP currency, but I am not going to go on, and on, and on about it here. I will just play elsewhere.

 

[jpsartre]

I don't think anybody was bitching about it. I couldn't care less anyway. They can keep my account locked for all I care as I would never go back to them after this screw-up. The only reason I posted it was that I found it quite amusing.

I feel sorry, however, for those players who are having legitimate winnings withheld because the casino is spending time investigating an account with no activity and no withdrawels. As I've said in another post, I see no good reasons why this audit couldn't take place after players had been paid. If I were one of the affected players I would be pissed that they are spending their time looking at inactive accounts (remember that they are already taking much longer time than originally promised).

 

[sirius]

Eight months ago, a company representing Casino Rewards asked about advertising on my site and I sent them some details about the problems with the group (mainly retroactively applying promotion terms and conditions) and told them I wouldn't advertise them unless they could resolve all the problems. This is what I was told:

Thanks for getting back to me and for being so frank and honest.

I have spoken to the casino management about the changes and they have
been brought about by a high level of promotion abuse with many users
never going on to play further than the minimum at the casinos in a
attempt to gain the free money and nothing more, understandable this
has
up set certain people who only deposited in attempts to gain free money
and never had intentions of playing for anything more.

Understandable you cannot promote theses casinos if you do not believe
that they have acted honestly so I thank you for you time and wish you
all the best of luck in the future.

Kind Regards,

Tim

The management's attitude doesn't bode well for the players waiting for payments at Integrity after Casino Rewards take over.

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[caruso]

They merged with CR, who cares. I have never had any problems with CR casinos paying me on my non bonus withdrawals.

Your "non-bonus withdrawals" and nothing to do with anything. Why is it as soon as a problem is posted, some people believe that posting about NON problems is relevant? I also like fish & chips - jeez, doesn't that make a big difference?

The merger of Integrity with CR was in no way deceitful or sneaky, businesses merge all the time.

LOL, right. They only failed to make ANY mention of it to both messers Bailey & Cullingworth when they contacted them on the matter, allowing the latter to issue an Infopowa bulletin on the subject, fully in the knowledge that the facts were completely changed, ALL THE WAY ALONG. I think both Bryan and Jetset, though pretty stiff-upper-lipped on the matter, are angry about this - and rightfully so.

 

[Bullajami]

How about this one:

''This Tuesday & Wednesday at Casino Kingdom is Rewards Day!

For 48 hours only, you can collect a 10% bonus
of up to $100 on your Neteller deposits!
Don't miss out on this amazing offer!

Make your Neteller deposits between 00:01am Tuesday 29th & 23:59pm Wednesday 30th March (EST.), then email The King's Men with the Subject line 'Neteller Bonus' to claim your reward!
Casino Kingdom highly recommends Neteller as it is fast, and more importantly, a secure way to transfer cash online!
If you wish to avoid credit card rejections, simply sign up for a
Neteller account today!

*This promotion is by invitation only & cannot be claimed in
conjunction with any other promotional offer.

**If you have already claimed this bonus in March, you are eligible
to redeem the bonus again during this 48hour period!''

LOL

Yes, I received this e-mail (twice - once from Casino Classic and once from Casino Kingdom.) I also received e-mails from Casino Kingdom and Casino Classic stating that my accounts were unlocked. (They both had a zero balance). And, I received the one from Captain Cook's ($476 balance) telling me that they were only 30% done, that account remains locked, and they will now be taking until 15 April to finish the audit. (oh yes, I am believing that date, as they have been so reliable up until now with telling me when this would be completed )

Truth - stranger than fiction.

 

[Vesuvio]

The merger of Integrity with CR was in no way deceitful or sneaky, businesses merge all the time.

Yep, nothing deceitful or sneaky's going on here - it's perfectly normal to have cash-ins delayed for 5 weeks for an 'audit', & Willy and the ICL rep (surely not one and the same?) were completely upfront about the planned take-over and its effect on players. Even the term 'merger' is deceitful as far as an outsider can tell from Casino Rewards' press release.

I also received the Casino Classic e-mail unlocking the account I never knew was locked (with a zero balance). I'm not bothered either way, but it's more evidence that their 'audit' was either just an excuse, superficial, or they were lying about the criteria they'd use to lock accounts. If they were interested in banning 'advantage' players from further use of their casinos my account should still be locked. Unless they just wanted to steal any winnings not yet paid out? But surely they wouldn't try to do anything that deceitful or sneaky

 

[Bullajami]

I am also intrigued in this thread by the various labeling of players as "green chip", "advantage", "abusers", etc.

Perhaps we need to come up with a comparable label for casinos that lie, cheat, steal, bait & switch, and bungle. (Since the meister is witholding the "rogue" for now.)

 

[Nomad]

Yes, I received this e-mail (twice - once from Casino Classic and once from Casino Kingdom.) I also received e-mails from Casino Kingdom and Casino Classic stating that my accounts were unlocked. (They both had a zero balance). And, I received the one from Captain Cook's ($476 balance) telling me that they were only 30% done, that account remains locked, and they will now be taking until 15 April to finish the audit. (oh yes, I am believing that date, as they have been so reliable up until now with telling me when this would be completed )

Truth - stranger than fiction.

Virtually the same for me, except my Cooks balance is higher.

 

[StinkBug]

Virtually the same for me, except my Cooks balance is higher.

Same here...I had nothing at classic but something at Cooks and they "unlocked" classic but are "3/4" the way through with the investigation with cooks. How ironic they cleared the accounts w/ $0 balance!

 

[GrandMaster]

My Captain Cooks and Casino Kingdom accounts, both untouched for well over a year, are still locked.

 

[warmonked]

I am also intrigued in this thread by the various labeling of players as "green chip", "advantage", "abusers", etc.

Perhaps we need to come up with a comparable label for casinos that lie, cheat, steal, bait & switch, and bungle. (Since the meister is witholding the "rogue" for now.)

well, for the time being I'll be referring to cook's as Captain Crooks.

 

[SuperGidget]

I haven't played in their casinos but I have been playing at Captain Cooks Poker room since they began. I have made dozens of withdrawals and deposits there. I have provided proof of identity also.

They know me pretty well as I am one of their most loyal customers and have been for a long time.

But for the last three weeks they have chosen not to pay out my poker withdrawals. They keep telling me I have been put on the top of the list for the earliest cash ins. But always a week pass and when I inquire about it, they tell me again they will expediate the process. But nothing has happened still.

Now I feel they are just lying to me and don't intend to pay me my legitimate winnings.

Why am I, a loyal poker room player being penalized by this audit of casino abusers?

 

[Nomad]

Same here...I had nothing at classic but something at Cooks and they "unlocked" classic but are "3/4" the way through with the investigation with cooks. How ironic they cleared the accounts w/ $0 balance!

Wow! Things must be progressing quicker than expected since less than 24 hours ago they were 30% of the way through the audit and expecting to be done by April 15!

 

[pumacat]

Sorry

Pumacat just opened a website called:

"Puma Wizard Of Oddz"

Gee Puma, wonder if Michael Schackleford will be pleased...

Since that is a 'Blatant Rip Off' of his well known website.

It figures someone like you would be on here spouting the virtues of a group that has 'ripped off' players...

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Im sorry casino Meister, i really had no intention of getting into any fights on your board, I simply was upset at the time of my post.

In regards to the quote above, I also am sorry, as I honestly did not know there was a forum or website called wizard of odds, and i even did a google search before naming it that , to see if it was taken, I typed in wizard of oddz, and even bought the domain for thewizardofodz.com

i now have the full fact that this indeed is not great for me to name something that someone who is well respected has already taken. When the board opens, it will no longer be called wizard of oddz, but something different , as I don't wish to cause any problems with an already respecting gambling website.

 

[winbig]

Strange, because the first hit from google when searching for "wizard of odds" comes up with wizardofodds . com

 

[Freudian]

Im sorry casino Meister, i really had no intention of getting into any fights on your board, I simply was upset at the time of my post.

In regards to the quote above, I also am sorry, as I honestly did not know there was a forum or website called wizard of odds, and i even did a google search before naming it that , to see if it was taken, I typed in wizard of oddz, and even bought the domain for thewizardofodz.com

i now have the full fact that this indeed is not great for me to name something that someone who is well respected has already taken. When the board opens, it will no longer be called wizard of oddz, but something different , as I don't wish to cause any problems with an already respecting gambling website.

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Of course when I google for casinomeizter, I get no result. So why don't you go ahead and buy the site www.casinomeizter.com.

 

[Vesuvio]

Why am I, a loyal poker room player being penalized by this audit of casino abusers?

The answer's most likely just that the scaremongerers were right and the group ran out of cash. They tried to use "bonus abuse" as an excuse to avoid paying as many people as they could, but eventually gave up the ghost and sold/gave away their business. Though if Willy or ICL would like to post the 'truth' I'm sure we'd all love to hear it

 

[pumacat]

Strange, because the first hit from google when searching for "wizard of odds" comes up with wizardofodds . com

wizard of oddz, not wizard of odds...I dont think i can win no matter what I say, so you all just have fun and bite the next sucker who happens to disagree with you, Ill just do my thing, you can all do yours

good luck

puma

 

[winbig]

wizard of oddz, not wizard of odds...I dont think i can win no matter what I say, so you all just have fun and bite the next sucker who happens to disagree with you, Ill just do my thing, you can all do yours

good luck

puma

Not calling you a sucker, we're just pointing out the obvious here. There's billions of websites out there and I'm sure tens of thousands+ relate to gambling. In any "business", you need to check out what would sound, look, and feel the same that's already out there, and try not to rip off someone else. Oddz, Odds; same thing.

 

[555YY]

wizard of oddz, not wizard of odds...I dont think i can win no matter what I say, so you all just have fun and bite the next sucker who happens to disagree with you, Ill just do my thing, you can all do yours

good luck

puma

dear unscrupulous affiliate,

i highly suggest, for your own sake, that you cease posting immediately on this thread. you proclaims of ignorance is not fooling anyone and it just makes you look worse (if that's possible) right now i'd say you're teetering on the line between discredited and tarred and feathered.

i would actually find your feeble attempts at supporting a roguish casino policy while ripping-off one the best known names in online gambling highly amusing if it wasn't for the fact that it's so damn pathetic that i'm actually starting to feel sorry for you.

it appears you have once again under-estimated the abilities of online players, just like when you tried to lead them like sheep to the slaughter in front of all mighty affiliate dollar.

i know people like you have trouble sometimes distinguishing between right and wrong, but surely even you must realize you alread lost the battle AND the war

in closing, i'm glad you're giving up on your attempt to infringe on wizard's good name. besides, if you truly wanted to rip off a well known gambling site, i suggest looking for something closer to your pedigree, mayhaps "whiners-online" or something to that effect