Canadian online gambling might soon be over

Kaynos

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This is really shameful. Under the "security" pretext, they gonna block online gambling sites but their own. Imposed monopoly at it's best....

The original article is in french, this is the best translation i found, what's your thought on that ?

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Here is the crappy translation:

Loto-Québec may soon benefit from blocking online gambling sites that compete with its espacejeux.com platform. The Committee on Public Finance looks at the record this week as part of discussions on the adoption of Bill 74.

This omnibus bill deals with the implementation of several measures announced in the second budget Carlos Leitao, in March 2015. The Minister of Finance, including amendments to the Consumer Protection Act to protect the sites of Quebecers online games.

Essentially, Quebec wants to impose bandwidth providers such as Cogeco, Videotron, Bell and Rogers, to block access to online gambling sites considered illegal, fines apply. A list of illegal sites are produced by Loto-Québec.

"We can not give a list of sites considered illegal at the moment because it is not completed. But if the bill is adopted, all the sites that are not owned by Loto-Québec could be on the list, "said Silver to Patrice Lavoie, Director of Communications and Media Relations Loto-Québec.

The representative of the corporation said that a tender will be launched to possibly invite the promoters of illegal gambling to legitimize their product by joining the espacejeux.com platform. In addition, only commercial sites whose address ends in .com and .ca, would be targeted by law.

Since launching its platform in 2010, Loto-Québec has remained a marginal player in the market for online games. Research conducted by Ipsos in 2012 revealed that the site espacejeux.com only held 20.6% market share of online games. The remaining shares are held by illegal gaming sites.

In the second quarter of fiscal 2015-2016, however espacejeux.com generated revenues of $ 28.3 million, up 28.2% from the same period last year.

Internet service providers have entered reservations against the Quebec government project.

In a letter to Prime Minister Philippe Couillard and his finance minister, Carlos Leitao, last November, Cogeco argued that the bill could jeopardize the principle of free access to the internet, so far respected in Quebec and elsewhere in the country.

"This legislation, if necessary, set a precedent, not only in Quebec but also for other jurisdictions in the country. The announced measures will effectively tilt the Quebec courts in the camp where free Internet access will be compromised, "it said in the letter Cogeco.

Twenty countries have established rules to require filtering of illegal online gambling sites. This is the case of France, Denmark, Belgium, Italy and Spain in particular.

Sounds like a bunch of crybabies to me. I wonder what they consider an "illegal" site. Is this a site not licensed in Canada? How does Kahnawake fit in? :rolleyes:
 
Well, that's too bad for the Canadians. I don't think there's any need for this though. As far as I'm concerned (and I apologize if I'm wrong on this), gambling has some kind of impact on a country's economical status. Wondering how this would affect them.
 
Well, that's too bad for the Canadians. I don't think there's any need for this though. As far as I'm concerned (and I apologize if I'm wrong on this), gambling has some kind of impact on a country's economical status. Wondering how this would affect them.

Lottery and Casino is a big cash cow for the government. They see that they have online competition, they don't like it, so they are forcing us to use the "official" government controlled site under the pretext that every online casino out there is illegal. That's just bull**** They'll go as far as forcing IPS to block these site for them...
 
Is this state-wide or nationwide? This seems to emanate from Quebec (French) who would hate Canadians spending lolly with UK casinos.

It's state (province) wide for now but if they are successful i don't see why they wouldn't do it nationwide. Loto-Quebec is available in all Canada not just Quebec.
 
As far as I was aware Lotto Quebec is only available for purchase and play in the province of Quebec. I live on a border town between Ontario and Quebec, and you must traverse into Quebec to play anything to do with their services.

May I ask what you are referring to with the previous statement? Perhaps I am not aware of some of their games available in Ontario or something???
 
As far as I was aware Lotto Quebec is only available for purchase and play in the province of Quebec. I live on a border town between Ontario and Quebec, and you must traverse into Quebec to play anything to do with their services.

May I ask what you are referring to with the previous statement? Perhaps I am not aware of some of their games available in Ontario or something???

No, like half the big jackpot from 6/49, Loto Max are always won in other provinces. It's a running joke in Quebec, what province is gonna win the jackpot, Ontario, BC, Alberta ?
 
No, like half the big jackpot from 6/49, Loto Max are always won in other provinces. It's a running joke in Quebec, what province is gonna win the jackpot, Ontario, BC, Alberta ?

Yes those are national lottery winnings, sometimes won in Quebec, but often won elsewhere. Loto Quebec's games are exclusive to Quebec however, and this ruling whilst setting a provincial precedent that other provinces may follow, will have zero impact anywhere outside the jurisdiction of Quebec. I am not concerned as to what impact this may have here in Ontario, but sadly Quebec has often gone off on it's own when it comes to rules and regulations being different from the rest of the country, for example the drinking age is one way in Quebec and another in the rest of the country. Quebec enjoys standing apart from the rest, thus I feel this bill will have zero impact outside of Quebec, hopefully zero impact within Quebec too if it gets voted down.
 
No, like half the big jackpot from 6/49, Loto Max are always won in other provinces. It's a running joke in Quebec, what province is gonna win the jackpot, Ontario, BC, Alberta ?

obviously makes sense


8 million people in quebec

22 million in the other provinces


quebec gets its fair share of winners. This month someone won 1 million dollars on 6/49....$68,000...group win of $533,000

1 million dollar 6/49 win last month. 1 million dollar win lotto max...$364,000 lotto max...$238,000 6/49...$264,000 win on 6/49
 
Casinomeister got it right... Lotoquebec are a bunch of cry babies. Their site is soooo bad. Their mobile version is just awful. 95% of the time it doesnt recognize my IP adress and it says I cant log in. Their poker software was totally outdated 10 years ago and they havent change a thing about it. They are totally incompetent in every aspect and their strategy to ban every other company shows how dumb they are. Ay least they realize they can't compete with anyone. If this bullsh1t goes through I am never gambling online again. What a bunch of fkn retards.

I was suppose to go to the casino today. I won't. Fawk them.
 
Well I'm worried Lockinlove. They have already taken away being able to deposit by Visa. I can see the writing on the wall. Not many people (except for Jasmine of course) like the playolg.ca website. Personally, I would never play there again unless forced to.

Glad it's just Quebec for now (sorry my friends from Quebec but you know that old saying -- better you then me)
 
thats the banks due to fraud/chargebacks/bankruptcy claims.

I like playolg too. Guess you missed all my winnerscreenshots last week from a $200.00 deposit. In short:

We are contacting you regarding your account registered with PlayOLG.

Your withdrawal request for $2,404.00 has been approved on (02/10/2016). Please allow 3 to 5 business days from our approval date to allow your bank to place your funds in your bank account.

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate to contact us. We’re available 24/7 by phone, email and chat.

Regards,

PlayOLG Player Support

but really...im not saying I trust in the government because you would have to be straight up delusional in order to. Im just not worried...for now.

I will say I am surprised our government hasnt tried that already. I mean really, not too long ago the liberals made a public speech asking all Canadian to donate their tax returns to government in order to lower our National debt but of course no offers from the thousands of politicians to donate any part of their huge salaries to it. :rolleyes:
 
Well I'm worried Lockinlove. They have already taken away being able to deposit by Visa. I can see the writing on the wall. Not many people (except for Jasmine of course) like the playolg.ca website. Personally, I would never play there again unless forced to.

Glad it's just Quebec for now (sorry my friends from Quebec but you know that old saying -- better you then me)

Yeah i had to made an ecopayz account to be able to make deposit or withdraw. Everywhere i tried with visa directly was denied.
 
This has been in the works since the last budget back in April. Ah Quebec we are distinct indeed. Where we pay up to 60% in income taxes and various other deductions on our weekly salaries. Love Montreal love Canada. But...

This is bullshit. And if it does go thru I will give up gambling here. I will play in land based casinos only. abroad and in the USA. I refuse to play at quebec casinos, the rtp is less then 90%. I imagine it's not any better on their online website that offers decade old wms slots.


Fellow quebecers... I mourn the loss of our freedom to choose where we play.
 
This has been in the works since the last budget back in April. Ah Quebec we are distinct indeed. Where we pay up to 60% in income taxes and various other deductions on our weekly salaries. Love Montreal love Canada. But...

This is bullshit. And if it does go thru I will give up gambling here. I will play in land based casinos only. abroad and in the USA. I refuse to play at quebec casinos, the rtp is less then 90%. I imagine it's not any better on their online website that offers decade old wms slots.


Fellow quebecers... I mourn the loss of our freedom to choose where we play.

I don't know their RTP, i made several deposit on espace jeux, i play slot exclusively and i never withdraw anything. I tried land based gaming hall, it's a "little" better but not by much. Online slots variety is also very limited, they have mostly IGT slots.
 
IMO Quebec has always been pretty ham-fisted when it comes to anything they consider a jurisdictional issue: if they feel even slightly threatened everyone's rights go out the window in mad back-lash to (over)protect what (they think) is or should be theirs.

This latest police state BS of theirs is almost certainly a knee-jerk reaction against the recent move by the feds to recognize Kanawake's sovereignty over gaming issues. Since Quebec and Kahnawake have been age-long combatants over such things the new federal willingness to respect Kahnawake's rights makes everyone else Quebec's enemy, or so I imagine the logic would go. Obviously they have to slam the doors and weld them shut, again, this time in terms of internet access. :rolleyes:

If we're talking about petulant cry-babies the realm of Quebec politics is an excellent place to start. Before anyone jumps on me for sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong I was born and raised in Western Canada, lived in Montreal for 2 years in the early 90s. As it happens that was another of my failed experiments in living with the French: Quebec politics drove me straight up the wall. On the other hand I met some of the loveliest people of my life there, especially within the Montreal Jewish community. Absolutely life-changing. As it ever was though with Quebec, silk and daggers all the way. :)
 
not to pick on our quebecois neighbours (we usually do that at home anyway :p)..but boy, they have some of the worst casino rtps going.
Even when we lived there 2 years back, we'd drive to ON (that's Ontario don'tcha know) to the OLG (ON again...casino).

ps to those about banks and Visas - TD is awful too.
Prepaids are taken everywhere, and WDs to bank are great for discipline.

pps - why'd we live in Quebec? We worked ON side, but rent downtown Ottawa was 1k for a craptacular basement apt plus all utilities while 5 min over the border 1k got a house inclusive with a monster yard. (and unlike ON you can buy beer anywhere not just the govt store.)

ppps - in Gatineau Lac Leamy Casino (Qc) - you can't even bloody drink on the casino floor. No, seriously. Only 2 years back you could even drink in the bar.
 
Unfortunatly if it pass (things that wouldn't surprise me) it would be the end of my young streaming carreer cause i will never stream that bullshit casino again even if they have few WMS game.... I will retreat from online gambling and will play in Ontario when i'll have a chance on casino!


That's really a shame that they didn't opted to a licensing solution to get that money from the "Illegal" site that are not Illegal IMO



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Unfortunatly if it pass (things that wouldn't surprise me) it would be the end of my young streaming carreer cause i will never stream that bullshit casino again even if they have few WMS game.... I will retreat from online gambling and will play in Ontario when i'll have a chance on casino!


That's really a shame that they didn't opted to a licensing solution to get that money from the "Illegal" site that are not Illegal IMO



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OH no :( i hope the best for you Shaltar :(
 

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