Brexit - whats the difference.....

[Daavid63]

Euro zone inflation hits highest level in 13 years as energy prices soar​

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Must be Brexit again.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I don't even remotely understand what your point is, 'things aren't perfect in other countries' is completely irrelevant to the harms that Brexit is causing in the UK, which are now very well documented, with sources and evidence, in this thread. If the best you can offer in terms of a Brexit defence is saying, 'Look over there, energy price inflation!' then we're in a pretty rough spot.

Where's the good stuff? Brexit was supposed to be about making things better, and I ain't seen much of that so far.

 

[goatwack]

Read about a recent survey that indicated two thirds of people blame our current predicament on the Tories, with the other third attributable to Brexit

No idea where the survey was conducted or its overall credibility, it may well have been at the Labour conference a few days ago, but I think the overwhelming feeling is that this bunch of Tories are truly bungling it up, which wouldn't be a stretch.

 

[goatwack]

Liz Truss now pinning any upcoming shortages and failings on businesses, whilst absolving the Government of any accountability, as part of the period of 'adjustment' after Brexit....

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[dunover]

What must worry @ChopleyIOM is that they are still ahead of Liebore in the polls...somehow?

 

[interlog]

Write a piece in some trash newspaper that we're going to run out of pigs and blankets come Christmas, and it will only result in the sheeple starting to hoard that shit, just as happened with the toilet paper etc. at the start of Covid.

 

[Daavid63]

I don't even remotely understand what your point is, 'things aren't perfect in other countries' is completely irrelevant to the harms that Brexit is causing in the UK, which are now very well documented, with sources and evidence, in this thread. If the best you can offer in terms of a Brexit defence is saying, 'Look over there, energy price inflation!' then we're in a pretty rough spot.

Where's the good stuff? Brexit was supposed to be about making things better, and I ain't seen much of that so far.

The point is you are saying Brexit is to blame for everything, even Dunovers farts when he streams.

The issue is a global shortage and a variety of logistical problems including local and national. The fact you try and blame a shortage of lorry drivers on Brexit is bollox as the EU has a massive shortage themselves.

Labour at the last election stood on a Marxist platform, peoples vote, blah blah blah and got smashed, because the majority of the population are not brainwashed by the Corbynista, N London luvvies.

As for your premise about making things better, I'm happy as Larry and give it another 5/10 years when we have truly relinquished the EU shackles, I will be like a pig in shit.

Do you know drunk Steve by any chance? Serious question, that's the guy who shouts NOOOOOO Brexit with the big hat and placards, was always near the green at the H of P

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The point is you are saying Brexit is to blame for everything, even Dunovers farts when he streams.

And that's the exact opposite of what I've done, with ample evidence in the very thread you're actually posting to.

Is Brexit entirely to blame for everything that's gone to shit? No, of course it isn't, and I haven't claimed that. (Find a post where I do claim that. Spoiler alert - you won't.)

Is Brexit a contributory factor to a wide ranging number of issues the UK is facing at the moment? Yes, it is. Including the LGV driver shortage, because we lost ~20,000 EU drivers post-Brexit.

There are posts I made like this just a few pages back, so your assertions that I'm blaming everything on Brexit literally fall apart with the merest hint of introduction to the facts of the case - https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/brexit-whats-the-difference.86997/page-177#post-1216759

Or this reply to mack not that long ago too.

 

[mack341]

Sat here as a not-labour voter and pro brexit person [non binary also with lfc vs mcfc playing on the radio] it is hard to determine how much blame should be apportioned to boris's stewardship, how much is being blown up. The press/media have a broad remain-rejoin agenda.

1 nil yess!

 

[goatwack]

It would be unfair on Chopley to list all the benefits Brexit has brought, as the list is simply too long

 

[mack341]

Oh no knew that was a mistake 1-1, no more football updates from me!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Here's a hot-take, it's a chance to destroy modern supply chains!

So as long as you live within walking distance of some cows, you'll be fine.

 

[goatwack]

When they said Build Back Better, I didn't envisage having to use horse and cart to buy milk, nor did I think it meant grabbing a pickaxe to go turkey hunting. Makes one wonder what strain of Indica some of these MPs are blazing

On another note, I see my neck of the woods takes pride of place in idiocy, as seemingly no one can get a drop of diesel bloody anywhere

All the more surprising as most people round here are either e-scooting terrified pavement-dwellers to death, BMXing like stoned Matt Hoffmans, or foregoing their own transportation methods by carjacking innocents

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[geordiecolin]

The point is you are saying Brexit is to blame for everything, even Dunovers farts when he streams.

Nothing to do with Brexit or the EU. His Indian Curry's are responsible for his farting and streaming

 

[dunover]

Nothing to do with Brexit or the EU. His Indian Curry's are responsible for his farting and streaming

Yes, but according to @ChopleyIOM I should be famished, starving now we've left the EU. As food is a prerequisite to good farts and generates the gas, theoretically I should find any kind of flatulence impossible. All you should hear is my stomach rumbling, which sings in a different key, a sort of baritone compared to the near falsettto of the farts. Another benefit is the fact I don't have to observe the EU emissions regs either, even if I did I would do a VW and falsify them.

 

[dunover]

I can't wait for @ChopleyIOM to sing the praises of this fervent remainer, I wonder if private Eye will do a job on him next issue??

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[geordiecolin]

Yes, but according to @ChopleyIOM I should be famished, starving now we've left the EU. As food is a prerequisite to good farts and generates the gas, theoretically I should find any kind of flatulence impossible. All you should hear is my stomach rumbling, which sings in a different key, a sort of baritone compared to the near falsettto of the farts. Another benefit is the fact I don't have to observe the EU emissions regs either, even if I did I would do a VW and falsify them.

I am so pleased that you took my last comment the right way. If it had gone the wrong way you would probably have not made it to the bog!
And your cats protestations in the background of your vids would be unbearable!
The fact is that what we are seeing is developing into almost a world wide event.
Look at China to see why the chain of events are happening around the world. And look at how complicit America has become in it.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I can't wait for @ChopleyIOM to sing the praises of this fervent remainer, I wonder if private Eye will do a job on him next issue??

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Ahhh so it's another one of those, 'Look over there, a bee!' deflections. Tony Blair was last in office back in 2007, yes he was a remainer but he had precisely zero to do with calling the referendum or the implementation of Brexit. (And indeed, the alarm bells he did sound along with John Major on Northern Ireland, for example, have proven to be entirely valid.)

TBH it speaks to the obvious bombsite that is Brexit that this is what the Leave side is increasingly reduced to (not just here at CM, but out in the wider world too), pointing the finger elsewhere whilst furiously insisting that the problems the UK is facing are nothing to do with Brexit. (Although I note Johnson and the Tories have now pivoted to saying the labour shortages are the whole point of Brexit with admirably audacious speed.)

Ultimately you've got nothing, nada, zip. Brexit is a busted flush, it's a con job, and it's been exposed as a con job, in online casino terms it's the worst kind of scam artist clip joint that steals deposits, never pays withdrawals, and runs hacked slots on 60% RTPs. 'Look, Tony Blair, who is a remainer, was hiding money overseas, something something but nothing to do with Brexit'.

I'll ask again, but I know I'm wasting my time because there are no answers, where's the good stuff? Where are the Brexit dividends we were all promised? I see Daavid above is cheerfully telling us to give it another 5-10 years and maybe we'll have something to show for it, they didn't put that on the side of a bus did they?

Brexit is the scam of the century, the difference now as opposed to a year ago, is people can see the scam for what it is, and it's only going to become more obvious what a scam it is as the months roll on.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Back in January this guy started a Twitter thread documenting Brexit harms, he said he'd stop when he got to 1000.

He got to 1000 at the end of September.

One thousand individually documented Brexit harms.

I wonder where the thread documenting Brexit dividends is.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

This is quite something. Lord Frost attacks what Lord Frost negotiated, months after Lord Frost praised what Lord Frost negotiated.

Or rather, unelected bureaucrat attacks what unelected bureaucrat negotiated, months after unelected bureaucrat praised what unelected bureaucrat negotiated.

There's something slightly surreal about watching him stand in front of the Tory Conference (and remember, he isn't an MP, he's an unelected bureaucrat) and telling the somewhat unimpressed attendees how utterly shit his Brexit deal is.

 

[goatwack]

Skimming through the latter parts of this segment and seeing Chopley's questioning what Brexit has yielded, as a 'before and after' analysis of the current situation, I stumbled upon this catchy headline. Thought it quite apt!

 

[Webzcas]

Write a piece in some trash newspaper that we're going to run out of pigs and blankets come Christmas, and it will only result in the sheeple starting to hoard that shit, just as happened with the toilet paper etc. at the start of Covid.

Main Stream Media have a lot of answer for. A mere mention that we are collectively running low at the pumps and anyone with a vehicle is queuing up to panic buy.

However, I was in West Wales on Saturday, took my dog for company and whilst walking her in a small town in Carmarthenshire called Newcastle Emlyn, came across this pub.

Great bit of marketing

 

[ChopleyIOM]

They need us more than we need them update.

 

[goatwack]

I think you'll find that's changed, as it's now in the hundred(s) ahem

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[ChopleyIOM]

You are indeed correct goatwack the number seems to have shifted since the story I linked above was written. It's quite an audacious change of tack though, previously the Tory line was 'Nothing to do with Brexit it's a global shortage so totally not our fault' and now the line is, 'It is due to Brexit and that's the whole point because we're transitioning to a high wage economy but it is still also a global shortage so also totally not our fault'. (The main thing being, of course, that it is never, ever, ever, the fault of Brexit, it must always be Someone Else's Fault.)

And yes it may be a global shortage, but we're the only country in Europe that still has dry forecourts. (Around 20-30% down in London and the South East, apparently.)

As has also been noted, why on earth would EU drivers want to come to the UK for 3-6 months on temporary visas, with all the added extra Brexit red tape, to get booted back out at the end of it, when their skills are in high demand all across the EU, where they can work without any fuss across all the member states?

The interesting thing about the current Johnson line is that it's measurable, if people aren't better off in a year or two, and certainly by the next election, they can point straight back at him telling everyone they were going to be, and against a backdrop of both rising taxes and inflation, and the cut in universal credit (about 40% of the recipients of UC are in paid employment) - that'll be a tricky manoeuvre to pull off.