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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Enough, Feb 5, 2015.

    Feb 5, 2015
  1. Enough

    Enough Dormant account

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    Euro
    so i had 1300 euro in sports account and transferred to casino.. got given a 100 euro bonus to make it 1400.. won 3500 euro on a slot and then went to withdraw and find out i had to wager the bonus ... after meeting wager requirements of the just 100 euros i had 400 euros left...fucking bonuses bullshit i advise no one to ever accept one unless its exceptionally good terms
     
  2. Feb 5, 2015
  3. homerbert

    homerbert I-Gaming Industry Representative webby

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    nothing :)
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    middle of Europe!
    Hi! Welcome to forum.
    Well, you need to read all rules and terms before taking any bonus, this is basic rule.
     
  4. Feb 5, 2015
  5. miksaxxx

    miksaxxx Senior Member

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    Finland
    Did you think that they just gived you that 100€ ? How much was the wagering if you allready getted it to 3500€ ? :rolleyes:
     
  6. Feb 5, 2015
  7. Enough

    Enough Dormant account

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    Euro
    point was i got lucky with a single spin on twin spin and won that in my first few spins.. then i guess i had to wager around 5000 euro to clear the 100 bonus which i didnt need or effect my bankroll in anyway (10% on top basically)... but anyway just a rant
     
  8. Feb 5, 2015
  9. bigjohn

    bigjohn Meister Member MM PABnoaccred

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    Please be a little more careful with your thread title. It shows up on the main page for maybe a couple of days.
     
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  10. Feb 5, 2015
  11. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

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    Just a quick note to say I have edited the thread title.
     
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  12. Feb 5, 2015
  13. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    The biG Eu
    You could have refused to accept the bonus or simply ask the CS to remove it from your account which if a reputable casino they will do so long as you have not started playing. Almost all bonuses come with wagering requirements.
     
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  14. Feb 5, 2015
  15. Captain Chaos

    Captain Chaos Senior Member webby

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    United Kingdom
    Most unfortunate however there is very rarely such a thing as free money in the Casino world. You've nearly always got to put some work in to get that free money and reasonably often, it rarely works out. Whilst it is unfortunate, you should have read the terms and conditions first before making any bets and know where you stand. This is the problem with bonuses. Bit of a double-edged sword. More to play with but if you hit early you need to hope you keep hitting to make cashout.

    Personally, with that sum of money, I would have got straight onto CS to have it removed. I would never lock up such an amount for so little.
     
  16. Feb 5, 2015
  17. slotplayer

    slotplayer Webmeister webmeister

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    I don't play online anymore, (3 years next month) but I never took bonuses just to avoid the very scenario you outlined.
     
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  18. Feb 5, 2015
  19. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

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    gambler :)
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    Northants
    Thats the trouble, A lot of casino/sport books do state for the first deposit / transfer you get bonus, And they always come with a big play threw, Lets just hope you have not broke the max bet rule or played not allowed games or will be a struggle to withdraw the remaining,

    I take it that you had not known about this other wise you would of just transferd a small amount or at best 100 which looks like max match bonus,

    casinos are obliged to remove the bonus as long as you have not played a game,

    Thats just as bad as getting a bonus and having to cancel it manually and forgetting to do so, Next time make a deposit you have the old wager to playthrew, I have done that a few times before now
     
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  20. Feb 5, 2015
  21. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Hang on a minute...
    You started with 1,400 and at some point fairly soon you won 3,500.
    So what was your bank balance at THAT POINT?

    You then said you ended up with only 400.
    Even if your starting point was just the 3,500, to lose 3,100 of that in just 5,000 of wagering means you got an RTP of just 34%.
    What on earth were you playing and at what bet sizes??? :eek:

    KK
     
  22. Feb 5, 2015
  23. Enough

    Enough Dormant account

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    well I was playing a marvel slot with 20 euro per spin..
     
  24. Feb 5, 2015
  25. asadzareef89

    asadzareef89 Meister Member MM

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    Than u took such a huge risk with the money u shouldnt really rant, if u had even betted 5 a spin u would have been left with atleast 1500. I would never bet even a pound a spin on marvel slots as thy are awful at payouts
     
  26. Feb 5, 2015
  27. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Bexhill on sea, England
    €20? Jeeeze! :eek2:
    If you ever find yourself in a similar situation again, keep your bet size lower - much lower!
    If you had spun at €1-2 per spin you would have been much more likely to get close to the TRTP of around 95% and should theoretically only have lost about €250.

    KK
     
  28. Feb 5, 2015
  29. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

    Occupation:
    gambler :)
    Location:
    Northants
    Thats another thing, 20 Euro probs break the max bet rule with bonus so you be lucky if they pay you the remander, Try and have a moan now and say if you knew about the bonus than you would not have transferd all the cash, You may get lucky
     
  30. Feb 5, 2015
  31. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Web Dev.
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    England
    That is me too. I know some people disagree but a bonus is a hindrance if you are truly in it to win. In my experience, there is usually a time when you are "up" during a session but it may only be at one particular moment in hours of playing and you need to be in a position where you can cash out at that exact moment. If you don't, chances are you will end up down. The bonus may give you more playing time but it is more likely to prevent you from winning unless you are a) a low stakes grinder or b) very lucky!

    ^^ Spintee is right. But even if it didn't break a rule, my first point is even more pertinent playing at this bet size.

    Side note: many casinos forbid playing a progressive slot with a bonus anyway.
     
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  32. Feb 5, 2015
  33. AntiWiFi_RF_783

    AntiWiFi_RF_783 Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

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    so he had 1300 euros in sports account and decided to transfer the entire 1300 from sports to casino
    putting the entire 1300 at risk just for a 100 bonus with a 50xbonus wagering requirement.
    and goes about it with 20euro spins. yeah great... ends up with only 400, thus down 900 from his original 1300.
     
  34. Feb 5, 2015
  35. Mozaik

    Mozaik Experienced Member webby

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    Holland
    This strikes me as very odd. So the OP says he had 1400 euros on his sportsbook account.

    Once he transferred 1400 euros, he receives a 100 euro bonus. Isn't he supposed to be able to cash out at least 1300 euros then? Why would the whole amount be tied to the bonus? That doesn't make one bit of sense.

    Not sure what type of bonus OP received, but lets say a 100% bonus up to 100 euros max (Maybe OP can clear that up) then only 100 euros should be tied to the bonus and WR.
     
  36. Feb 5, 2015
  37. Captain Chaos

    Captain Chaos Senior Member webby

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    What Casino was this anyway? I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say Betfair?

    Sticking a 100 bonus on a transfer of that size is a little ridiculous really. It's not even 10%! Hardly a bonus really...
     
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  38. Feb 8, 2015
  39. Fjellsame

    Fjellsame Experienced Member MM

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    Norway
    Very good point, Mozaik!
     

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