New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[Nate]

~/tmp/bandit/old_data master* 50s
❯ node --max-old-space-size=4096 ../db_sums.js bonanza-15088 bonanza-15482 bonanza-15256 bonanza-15803 bonanza-16296 bonanza-16702 bonanza-7090 bonanza-7572 bonanza-7979 bonanza-8503
[ 51143 , 90.23 ]
[ 48319 , 94.88 ]
[ 63001 , 92.07 ]
[ 48186 , 93.25 ]
[ 103773 , 100.62 ]
[ 106616 , 100.57 ]
[ 48311 , 99.44 ]
[ 94040 , 94.71 ]
[ 48528 , 97.28 ]
[ 80207 , 93.78 ]

I work that out to be an RTP of 95,68% after 692.124 spins. Pretty close to the advertised 96%.

Thanks man - Still a piece of Junk IMPO.

Nate

 

[lockinlove]

Yep and more casinos using bonanza to entice them on in. Usually casinos give free spins on crap slots like starburst or quickspin. It looks like casinos arent scared of this slot at all and could really care less. Wonder why.

 

[goatwack]

BTG are really going to love Toror's meddling in their affairs.

Expect the horse head at end of bed combo sometime tomorrow, latest Monday

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yes Dazza at the start of vid you state you made £300 on bonanza.

 

[nutnut]

I just can't get over how much this slot takes the piss out of us

bonus after bonus is £1 £3 £ 4 £1 £8 £5 £6 £3

I opened up a jackpot king game in rage yesterday and hit £100 win in base game off 20p. when the hell does bonanza ever do this anymore?

yeh every so often someone post a decent win, but 99% suck. to have so many bonus rounds pay so poor is just a massive piss take.

 

[Nate]

Yep and more casinos using bonanza to entice them on in. Usually casinos give free spins on crap slots like starburst or quickspin. It looks like casinos arent scared of this slot at all and could really care less. Wonder why.

Because all the HYPE and Unlimited Mutliplier and 14 000x hits are a farce. The slot is capable, but BTG have made sure that it rarely happens. I mean on simulation he lost 13 000x before even seeing a 1000x hit. One session even saw a 5000x loss and he hasn't even hit that yet in 700 000 spins. Take all that and put it down to REAL play for the average Joe and watch your money disappear without a trace. It wouldn't surprise me if your chances of hitting 5000x are well over a million to 1. Lottery results are BTG's game - They should have rather named themselves Big Time Lotteries and we could have understood why their most marketed game behaves the way it does.

Nate

 

[goatwack]

I love how this game's mythical win potential is slowly being debunked. Of course you'll get those new players that get insta-hooked on it like the rest of us, but eventually most will realize what a magic mirrors slot this is. I have yet to have a session on it in days since these revelations

 

[slotter999]

~/tmp/bandit/old_data master* 50s
❯ node --max-old-space-size=4096 ../db_sums.js bonanza-15088 bonanza-15482 bonanza-15256 bonanza-15803 bonanza-16296 bonanza-16702 bonanza-7090 bonanza-7572 bonanza-7979 bonanza-8503
[ 51143 , 90.23 ]
[ 48319 , 94.88 ]
[ 63001 , 92.07 ]
[ 48186 , 93.25 ]
[ 103773 , 100.62 ]
[ 106616 , 100.57 ]
[ 48311 , 99.44 ]
[ 94040 , 94.71 ]
[ 48528 , 97.28 ]
[ 80207 , 93.78 ]

I work that out to be an RTP of 95,68% after 692.124 spins. Pretty close to the advertised 96%.

Hi Torors,

Is it possible for you to capture the number of 'hits' per spin in the spin data. I'm looking at your data now and the best winning streak I've seen over approx 200K spins is 14. The highest dead spin streak is 20. If the number of hits per spin could be specified it should be possible to produce some theoretical numbers regarding how high the bonus game multipliers can go along with the potentially the odds of hitting "the dream". Going to be a veeeeery high number I suspect....odds of hitting that is.

 

[Nate]

I love how this game's mythical win potential is slowly being debunked. Of course you'll get those new players that get insta-hooked on it like the rest of us, but eventually most will realize what a magic mirrors slot this is. I have yet to have a session on it in days since these revelations

Maybe it will throw out a 10 000x win again (I think it has already literally raped half the gaming population to gather that hit) and then people will be blindly playing because it has 'potential' and the 'base game is good'...

Remember kids... just because something is theoretically possible doesn’t mean it’s ever going to happen.

Nuff said

Nate

 

[lockinlove]

Because all the HYPE and Unlimited Mutliplier and 14 000x hits are a farce. The slot is capable, but BTG have made sure that it rarely happens. I mean on simulation he lost 13 000x before even seeing a 1000x hit. One session even saw a 5000x loss and he hasn't even hit that yet in 700 000 spins. Take all that and put it down to REAL play for the average Joe and watch your money disappear without a trace. It wouldn't surprise me if your chances of hitting 5000x are well over a million to 1. Lottery results are BTG's game - They should have rather named themselves Big Time Lotteries and we could have understood why their most marketed game behaves the way it does.

Nate

It is well over 1 million to 1. Book of dead has shown that not once in 1.8 million spins was a 5000x achieved during videoslots site wide battles. Then again it showed it hit 5000x once in just over 1 million spins. So I think its safe to say that slot may spit it out once every 1.2 million...Bonanza is much different and difficult. I would say the odds are 1 in 3.5 million to hit 5000x or more.

 

[SpinUk]

Majoring Wagering Session last night on BTG = 20p spins
£300 loss. Continual spins over 4 hours.
White Rabbit = 4 Bonuses - best 116x
Danger High Voltage = 18 (!) bonuses. Best 157x. Mostly 10-20x. Bonuses were coming on average 100 spins or so.
Bonanza = zero bonuses (again).

And these games don't behave like an AWP? Why would you see such trends then? Wish we had a proper maths guru here to work out the probabilities of randomness with such dead spin/bonus appearances

 

[torors]

Hi Torors,

Is it possible for you to capture the number of 'hits' per spin in the spin data. I'm looking at your data now and the best winning streak I've seen over approx 200K spins is 14. The highest dead spin streak is 20. If the number of hits per spin could be specified it should be possible to produce some theoretical numbers regarding how high the bonus game multipliers can go along with the potentially the odds of hitting "the dream". Going to be a veeeeery high number I suspect....odds of hitting that is.

I can fix that. Remember, the bonus rounds use different reel sets than the base game. Without having looked closely at it, I guess they probably have a much worse symbol distribution. The MegaWays counter behaves differently during bonus round play as well.

I think the 7 reel sets are distributed this way:
3 for Basegame (depending on MegaWays counter)
3 for Bonus round play (same as above)
1 for the “extra” top reel.

Perhaps we should look at the hit per spin figure in the bonus game alone?

 

[slotter999]

I can fix that. Remember, the bonus rounds use different reel sets than the base game. Without having looked closely at it, I guess they probably have a much worse symbol distribution. The MegaWays counter behaves differently during bonus round play as well.

I think the 7 reel sets are distributed this way:
3 for Basegame (depending on MegaWays counter)
3 for Bonus round play (same as above)
1 for the “extra” top reel.

Perhaps we should look at the hit per spin figure in the bonus game?

Actually yes just the bonus data is required. We already know what the bonus frequency is so that's the first number of the equation.

Happy to help crunch the data if you can make it available. If you could include the reelset info as well would be interesting. Can't imagine it's an equal distribution.

 

[TheAddict]

I can fix that. Remember, the bonus rounds use different reel sets than the base game. Without having looked closely at it, I guess they probably have a much worse symbol distribution. The MegaWays counter behaves differently during bonus round play as well.

I think the 7 reel sets are distributed this way:
3 for Basegame (depending on MegaWays counter)
3 for Bonus round play (same as above)
1 for the “extra” top reel.

Perhaps we should look at the hit per spin figure in the bonus game alone?

Arent the majority (so id assume btg as well if so) of slots bonuses payouts determined the moment u click spin before you start the bonus feature itself? Ie. To pay 5000x it could pay 5000x by producing 8 spins of decent wins at decent multipliers that add up to 5000x, or one heart attack explosion and 9 dead spins that also add up to 5000x which the rng had already selected, Making the bonus spins hit frequency irrelevant?
I assumed that was the case anyway (obviously i dont know personally, but would like to).

Like when people say "imagine if it threw in a line of diamonds with a 40 multiplier, this could bankrupt a casino at a high stake" id of thought it couldnt randomly do that unless the rng spin in the base game produced one of the mythical 15,000x + hits that are apparantly available, in which case for an 100,000x hit it might well decide do something like a line of diamonds at 30x in order to produce/display the pre selected result.


Just thinking out loud like

 

[goatwack]

Arent the majority (so id assume btg as well if so) of slots bonuses payouts determined the moment u click spin before you start the bonus feature itself? Ie. To pay 5000x it could pay 5000x by producing 8 spins of decent wins at decent multipliers that add up to 5000x, or one heart attack explosion and 9 dead spins that also add up to 5000x which the rng had already selected, Making the bonus spins hit frequency irrelevant?
I assumed that was the case anyway (obviously i dont know personally, but would like to).

Like when people say "imagine if it threw in a line of diamonds with a 40 multiplier, this could bankrupt a casino at a high stake" id of thought it couldnt randomly do that unless the rng spin in the base game produced one of the mythical 15,000x + hits that are apparantly available, in which case for an 100,000x hit it might well decide do something like a line of diamonds at 30x in order to produce/display the pre selected result.


Just thinking out loud like

The whole thing's an illusion. I swear it's predetermined the moment you load the slot up, nevermind the bonuses. I'm talking about the whole session

 

[Jono777]

My personal take is that there are no reel strips, there would have to be literally millions of symbols per reel if that were the case given the amount of combinations possible per reel, never mind per spin.

To pinch a phrase, the reels are gimped and it just displays whatever it needs to to pay the result / return for that spin.

Makes it far easier to rig that way too

 

[lockinlove]

Everybody here saw how much I played this at the beginning for the screenshot contest. I think it would be safe to say 100,000 spins and the slot acted like a normal slot but the bonuses paid much better because it was so hard to hit that once you did it would at least pay most times.

After the first month or two of release my next 450,000 spins were nothing like the first 100k. My next 100k spins were a disaster and worse and worse. I dont believe I was on a heater for 100k spins thats pretty damn unlikely.

I have thought of every conclusion possible how the game can be changed without taking it down or relicensed. I dont know much about it but I always thought that they designed the game to play a certain way for a certain amount of spins and once it reaches a certain rtp or spins then the math model changes and declines and then finally sets in on an rtp they really set it on.

For example for the first 3 million spins the rtp is set at 110% and the average bonus 200x. Once the program reads it hits the mark they set the math and it declines and settles in at 90% rtp what they really designed it at and the average bonus payout of 40x.

Im probably way off but these are things you thing of when something drastically changes between large sample sizes. This game is nowhere near the same as a year ago. Nowhere near not even 20%.

You think I would play that slot for 100k spins like it is now. Not a chance in the world.

 

[TheAddict]

Lmfao goat.

Was just curious. Maybe it has already been confirmed before that each spin in the bonus is seperatly randomly selected. If its pre determined before entering the feature then i suppose it could go to a 50x or 60x multiplier to pay the predetermined result, but pay absolute pant wins to get there and then throw a load of dead spins.. making the illusion of infinate multipliers kind of pointless.
Just got me thinking of like say doa, the reel strips change in the bonus but that is (dont shoot me if im wrong) surely pre determined before entering the bonus... which also explains why this html bollocks over the past month has thrown me at least 45 bomuses where im one away from a wl(sometimes with 3 places to hit or sometines with 9 spins to go) in the past 650 bonus rounds and missed the final wild everytime. Something during my experience with the old version, never seemed to do as much (fook you html!) And that pre html if u got close to a wl it came in more often. Like as if its set to tease even more now.

 

[lockinlove]

The whole thing's an illusion. I swear it's predetermined the moment you load the slot up, nevermind the bonuses. I'm talking about the whole session

Its ok man, I think they sit around and wait for me to fire up bonanza and once they get the alert they all huddle around and laugh like psychopaths and say "shes back ahaha!" Quick put her rtp on 30% let her get a bonus after 800 spins and then give her a 3x!!!

 

[assassino]

It is for sure rigged the last 3-4 months.Lets all wait for the next version.version 1.1.17 23/11/17 will empty your balance.(maybe one last session for me when and if they change this version to try reach a 50% RTP.Recovery is out of the question)

 

[Gaz237]

Yes Dazza at the start of vid you state you made £300 on bonanza.

Why are you being a complete nob?

Think about it. Dunover posts his video's for OUR entertainment. Do you want to whtch him lose money for an hour+?

His video's are edited and he even mentions he has lost XYZ earlier.

 

[goatwack]

Yeah, I'm not one to disclose company secrets, but for the next update BTG will be removing the diamonds altogether, unfortunately. "We strive to maintain an excellent product and are always looking to further enhance the playing experience on our popular slots. Our customers are our #1 priority" was their official response

Also next to go will be the 'L' and the 'D' (well, that went months ago already)

So enjoy the ride and GO GO GO!

 

[Gaz237]

Because all the HYPE and Unlimited Mutliplier and 14 000x hits are a farce. The slot is capable, but BTG have made sure that it rarely happens. I mean on simulation he lost 13 000x before even seeing a 1000x hit. One session even saw a 5000x loss and he hasn't even hit that yet in 700 000 spins. Take all that and put it down to REAL play for the average Joe and watch your money disappear without a trace. It wouldn't surprise me if your chances of hitting 5000x are well over a million to 1. Lottery results are BTG's game - They should have rather named themselves Big Time Lotteries and we could have understood why their most marketed game behaves the way it does.

Nate

Would like to add to the bold bit.

It doesn't happen rarely, it happened once ever. From a dubious sourse.

And the fact that it happened to someone, who just happened to be a follower to one of the biggest Youtuber out there and the said persom happened to be recording it. STINKS.

On a side note. The post a couple of pages ago from the BTG owner. How Smug was that?.

That was from a known company, who have been catch red handed by, our own casinomeister.

 

[torors]

Would like to add to the bold bit.

It doesn't happen rarely, it happened once ever. From a dubious sourse.

And the fact that it happened to someone, who just happened to be a follower to one of the biggest Youtuber out there and the said persom happened to be recording it. STINKS.

On a side note. The post a couple of pages ago from the BTG owner. How Smug was that?.

That was from a known company, who have been catch red handed by, our own casinomeister.

I’m sure we will hit >10.000x again. Too bad I will be hitting it in free mode and it’ll be another year until the next one

 

[torors]

Actually yes just the bonus data is required. We already know what the bonus frequency is so that's the first number of the equation.

Happy to help crunch the data if you can make it available. If you could include the reelset info as well would be interesting. Can't imagine it's an equal distribution.

Just querying the misses / hits during features turned out to be harder than I initially thought. Give me another hour

 

[slotter999]

Maybe it will throw out a 10 000x win again (I think it has already literally raped half the gaming population to gather that hit) and then people will be blindly playing because it has 'potential' and the 'base game is good'...

Nuff said

Nate

Do you or anyone else have any systems you would like to see passed over the data to compare it against a flat / static betting profile?

I've just tried a balance builder starting with 20p and increasing the bet size one level each the balance increases by 20%. If it's not minimum bet I then lower the limit if it goes lower than 20% of the new balance. Example: -

20p betsize start with £100 balance. If it gets above £120 then increase bet size to 40p and set a new raise limit to +20% of balance and lower limit to -20% of the balance. Repeat over. Highest balance I can get is £502 with a bet size of 80p. I'll try a few passes at different entry points and compare the results.

Above system compared to flat betting: -

FLAT BET - Wagered = 3862680 | Peak balance = 38594 | Balance low = -62223
BALANCE BUILDER - Wagered = 4101840 | Peak balance = 59701 | Balance low = -65446

I'm going to try a martingale system against it to see how that performs but given there are only 10 possible bet sizes I'm fairly sure it show significant losses. will probably need to tweak the starting balance to be a lot higher and also some bust out behaviour.

 

[greylady]

I was witness to the most horrendous session on Bonanza ever - i think. My friend's hubby has pumped in £4000 (over the last two days) on £2, £4, £5 and £10 bets and his balance disappeared in record breaking time without one bonus

It makes you wonder with so many people losing and without any recent reports of any big hits, where is the money going - into a black hole!

 

[interlog]

Would like to add to the bold bit.

It doesn't happen rarely, it happened once ever. From a dubious sourse.

And the fact that it happened to someone, who just happened to be a follower to one of the biggest Youtuber out there and the said persom happened to be recording it. STINKS.

On a side note. The post a couple of pages ago from the BTG owner. How Smug was that?.

That was from a known company, who have been catch red handed by, our own casinomeister.

You are wrong. The person didn't record it. He said he won 14,000x but didn't have a screen shot let alone video. Both the streamer and the casino then got in touch with BTG and they reproduced it

 

[Nicola]

Haven't had a single bonus all week.

7621 spins in total at SlotsMillion since last Sunday. Sums it up for me on Bonanza.

 

[slotmaster]

I was witness to the most horrendous session on Bonanza ever - i think. My friend's hubby has pumped in £4000 (over the last two days) on £2, £4, £5 and £10 bets and his balance disappeared in record breaking time without one bonus

It makes you wonder with so many people losing and without any recent reports of any big hits, where is the money going - into a black hole!

Why on earth would you do that!? Why on earth did you let him do that!? Bad greylady bad.

 

[assassino]

Haven't had a single bonus all week.

7621 spins in total at SlotsMillion since last Sunday. Sums it up for me on Bonanza.

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They are actually telling us all not to play it,they even sell t-shirts with stamps on it o_O

 

[greylady]

Why on earth would you do that!? Why on earth did you let him do that!? Bad greylady bad.

I did tell him I was his bad luck mascot and to wait until I left for home before he played

I have had such crap time since October - at least it wasn't my money!

 

[slotmaster]

Just hit gold, Thanks guy's for filling the machine up, 100x win on the nose.

 

[dunover]

Those stats are shocking - well over 400 bonuses to hit 1000x +.
Bonus frequency avg. 450 spins.

You're looking at around 1-in-2 to 300,000 spins to hit one. I'm think I'm going to leave the game alone soon, it's bad to see what you're actually throwing your money away on.

 

[TimArmstrong]

Gol go gol gol gol go gol go go go go gol etc. Some wins in the base game but your balance will never go above your original start balance. When you finally get the bonus it pays x30. This summarizes this game for everyone doesn't it. Piece of shit slot and BTG are champions in making slots that simply rip players off.

 

[SpinUk]

Those stats are shocking - well over 400 bonuses to hit 1000x +.
Bonus frequency avg. 450 spins.

You're looking at around 1-in-2 to 300,000 spins to hit one. I'm think I'm going to leave the game alone soon, it's bad to see what you're actually throwing your money away on.

If you really want to see how awful this game is, do what I did the other night and do £100 on minimum bets on bonanza. Watch your balance trickle out with maybe a 100x if your lucky. Then do £100 on minimum bets with any microgaming slot (even the new shitty ones). Feel the differance. Then thank the Lord that other slot providers exist that enable you win something other than 10x every five or ten minutes.
Finally make a personal vow never to play BTG again - your bankroll will thank you.

 

[SpinUk]

Haven't had a single bonus all week.

7621 spins in total at SlotsMillion since last Sunday. Sums it up for me on Bonanza.

Any maths gurus here? I say this as the odds are a bonus 1 in about 500 I remember someone saying, and this is 15x that figure.

So whats the chances of that?

Yes we have all gone over 1000 spins on dead or alive (I have personally only had it less than 10 times in 57 wild lines - shows how often I used to play it) and that is about one in 150 spins, yet regular posters are all reporting these mathematically remote gaps in bonus regularly?

Of course a compensated machine would make such troughs in bonus much more plausable (and indeed necessary), but these games are certified as random and “each spin is independent of the last” so it can’t be that.

No, definately not.

 

[smart_croatia]

actualy did you know that song on mandoline guitar was played by CEO on BTG, uh i play way to much bonanza but i got rly nice hits my max win was 1000x, and i got +5+5

 

[TheAddict]

Agree spinuk, assuming the 1 in 500 is actually accurate. Im on about 36 wl and 6 lots of 5 scats.i beleive i can count the times its cost over 1000 spins to get a bonus on 1 hand if i had to throw a guess tbh. Which would not be to far off your experience of 10 times if going by wl distributions as a marker for playtime.
Though one should probablytake into account that bonanaza has.. apparantly has, way more potential.

 

[nutnut]

well this slot has made me give up casinos again for second time. I aim to make it longer than 2 months this time. i didnt lose a lot but what i witnessed was same tired story everyone else suffers.

It's a simple and boring format....

You lose 50 or 60(depending on how much you gamble maybe more) at min stake, in between this you hit odd bonus if your lucky for 5 or 8 pound win. You then keep plugging away and hit a 40 win bonus, thus making you think your now winning. Not realising you down around 80 or 90 before you hit it. you then suffer boredom with this 40 win floating around the 30 or 40 level for hours sometimes days on end. you go down to 10 then back upto 40 then down to 20 back upto 40. Then kicks in. you lose 20 quickly and have 20 left and worse part is this.

when slot is at its worse slowly taking those "winnings"(actually still a loss) back off you, instead of a randomness wishing and hoping you know you wont get lucky. its never that unpredictable EVER. even worse is you know you wont get a bonus. in that whole 20 at min stake nt one bonus just gol gol gol gol gol till took it all back.

most predictable bullshit to exist, and i feel dumb for playing it. im done this time. YOU CAN NOT GET AHEAD, it's a illusion if you ever think otherwise.

 

[goatwack]

well this slot has made me give up casinos again for second time. I aim to make it longer than 2 months this time. i didnt lose a lot but what i witnessed was same tired story everyone else suffers.

It's a simple and boring format....

You lose 50 or 60(depending on how much you gamble maybe more) at min stake, in between this you hit odd bonus if your lucky for 5 or 8 pound win. You then keep plugging away and hit a 40 win bonus, thus making you think your now winning. Not realising you down around 80 or 90 before you hit it. you then suffer boredom with this 40 win floating around the 30 or 40 level for hours sometimes days on end. you go down to 10 then back upto 40 then down to 20 back upto 40. Then kicks in. you lose 20 quickly and have 20 left and worse part is this.

when slot is at its worse slowly taking those "winnings"(actually still a loss) back off you, instead of a randomness wishing and hoping you know you wont get lucky. its never that unpredictable EVER. even worse is you know you wont get a bonus. in that whole 20 at min stake nt one bonus just gol gol gol gol gol till took it all back.

most predictable bullshit to exist, and i feel dumb for playing it. im done this time. YOU CAN NOT GET AHEAD, it's a illusion if you ever think otherwise.

Yeah....I've had that. Namely getting the dreaded downward spiral where I just know the bonus ain't coming. Usually like you said, win lose, win lose, recover a bit, get slightly ahead as though it were a triumph and then weeeeeeeeeeeeee straight back down.

It's very predictable in its randomness....so much so the game keeps repeating similar patterns that all end one way. The premise of the game is fine but it's in serious need of revisionary programming

 

[TheAddict]

I suppose as the trancemonkey said. "Just because its possible doesnt mean its going to happen".
Had a gutt feeling it might play like a jackpot slot from the start, though i put it as 1 person will smash it and the rest wont. but with the odd extended playtime to keep the gambler happy occasionly. and after reading all this it can keep my 6quid investment. Never have and never will buy a lottery ticket either, aka the poor mans tax as i heard it refferred as last week lol. so aint gonna start buying a few mil of em now even if it does give me longer entertainment.

Ps. Go to sleep goat ffs man.. ive got an excuse with drunken poker players going nutz tonight at least

 

[interlog]

If you really want to see how awful this game is, do what I did the other night and do £100 on minimum bets on bonanza. Watch your balance trickle out with maybe a 100x if your lucky. Then do £100 on minimum bets with any microgaming slot (even the new shitty ones). Feel the differance. Then thank the Lord that other slot providers exist that enable you win something other than 10x every five or ten minutes.
Finally make a personal vow never to play BTG again - your bankroll will thank you.

I did the exact same thing (£100 on £0.20 spins) on the "old" version. 11 hours (!!) later and I had enough and left the game at £106 - not bad for entertainment.

 

[Nicola]

Another £500 all at 0.40p stakes and not one bonus on Bonanza. Started at midnight, and just lost it all at 5.35am.

Shocking.

 

[illu88]

Oh jesus that was a very expensive Saturday Night Fever -.-

 

[BillyGoldblum]

I did some minbetting on this today to mess around see how it is and not lose too much

2800 spins and no bonus only lost like $80 so who cares but if that was my $1 spins id be real salty

But I think I know the secret how to get $100 bonus. Bet $10 hit bonus get usual 10x. Bingo!

 

[Nate]

Another £500 all at 0.40p stakes and not one bonus on Bonanza. Started at midnight, and just lost it all at 5.35am.

Shocking.

A cool 1250 x bet - 5 F*cking hundred on 0.40c. If i saw screenshots paying that much on Bonanza and as frequently as it does on DOA, I would put it down to bad luck. But they don't exist and it takes a miracle to hit that alone.

You should be glad you weren't playing any higher. Im telling you, more and more of you will get killed by this sorry excuse for a high variance slot.

Nate

 

[torors]

Actually yes just the bonus data is required. We already know what the bonus frequency is so that's the first number of the equation.

Happy to help crunch the data if you can make it available. If you could include the reelset info as well would be interesting. Can't imagine it's an equal distribution.

Here we go:

Of 19345 bonus spins played, 9570 were hits (49,5%). Cascades following initial wins are excluded.

Reel sets are here:

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I'll map them to symbols later. 10 is a 9, 1 is Diamond - you get the picture.

RST_0, 5 and 6 are used in base play, 1, 2 and 3 in feature play. I'm not 100% sure, but I guess it changes depending on MegaWays counter. Ie. you won't ever see a screenful of 7 of any symbol.

All that is left is reel set 4, which I guess is used for the top reel.

 

[torors]

After 750.000 spins we have our first >1000X Basegame hit:

 

[greylady]

After 750.000 spins we have our first >1000X Basegame hit:

So that 1000x win would cost you £150,000 That win pales into insignificance in comparison to what it cost to get it, it doesn't take a genius to work out that the slot is waste of space.