New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Another £200 gone on 60p for that one and only filth fest.

I need a break.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

In fact I actually think I need my head testing.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

When you think you have a slight chance of recovery after days of heart ache and u get your first feature for 3 hrs which is a +5 and then a retrigger it still bends you over and fucks you up the ass.

A prison sentence would be more desirable than enduring the fucking disgraceful gameplay I’ve had to endure.

You don't 'have' to do anything.

If you go up against BTG, BTG is going to win, you saw what BTG did to me over in the Lil Devil thread. I could see myself disappearing into the vortex of chasing wins, chucking deposit after deposit in search of one of those monster hit that they sell themselves on.

In reality of course, we all know what a fool's errand it is, the only variable is how long before you do the smart thing and walk away. I did so before it had a chance to do too much damage, and looking back on it now, I'm very glad I did.

Bonanza in particular has a batshit maths model that makes it a really dangerous game IMO, we've picked it apart over and over in this very thread, so we all know what it is we're dealing with.

Sometimes the only winning move is to quit.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Like you did????

But then came back for more??

I know they are going to win. I just expect SOME kind of varying gameplay than deposit after deposit all doing exactly the same thing.

Bonanza is completely different to lil devil. I warned you about playing that. It eats money way faster than most slots but it’s the only BTG slot that can deliver monster wins.

But ur right. Walking away is the only winning move.

 

[snorky510238]

Bonanza didn’t used to have a crazy maths model though, it really didn’t. Lil Devil is a totally different beast though. Evidenced by the fact Lil Devil, can produce enormous wins in the x100,000 range, whereas as Bonanza struggles to produce x1,000, so you can’t begin to compare the two.

Bonanza used to be a go to, for many trying to complete wagering. Imagine trying to wager on Lil Devil.

 

[slotmaster]

Bonanza didn’t used to have a crazy maths model though, it really didn’t. Lil Devil is a totally different beast though. Evidenced by the fact Lil Devil, can produce enormous wins in the x100,000 range, whereas as Bonanza struggles to produce x1,000, so you can’t begin to compare the two.

Bonanza used to be a go to, for many trying to complete wagering. Imagine trying to wager on Lil Devil.

Snorky spitting facts! This is very true.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Bonanza has never had a crazy maths model.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

If you think a 1/460 feature frequency isn't part of a crazy maths model, I really don't know what to tell you

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

That’s feature frequency not a crazy maths model.

We all know why its feature frequency is high. It’s because of its base game.

It maybe a complicated mechanic but the distribution of its RTP is fairly evident.

Lil devil feature frequency is actually very similar.

And guess what, lil devil can go off because it doesn’t have bonanzas base game.

Nothing batshit about that at all mate.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

That’s feature frequency not a crazy maths model.

We all know why its feature frequency is high. It’s because of its base game.

It maybe a complicated mechanic but the distribution of its RTP is fairly evident.

Lil devil feature frequency is actually very similar.

And guess what, lil devil can go off because it doesn’t have bonanzas base game.

Nothing batshit about that at all mate.

You do you man I'm not the one bashing my head against a Bonanza shaped brick wall to the point of insanity!

Personally I think people underestimate Bonanza's volatility, and the way its maths model really works against the player in quite a pernicious fashion.

dunover did a really good summary of it ages ago, somewhere back in this thread.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

There is nothing you can tell me about bonanza that I don’t already know.

I’m airing my grievances in a thread about bonanza after playing bonaza.

The reason why bonanza was so popular and still is, is because its volatility is actually quite low. Hence the 70 odd/ish % RTP is in the base.

Yes you can get ground down and thumped like me on a disaster run, but it’s way less volatile in terms of turnover than many a slot.

Even mentioning it in the same sentence and comparing it to lil devil is like chalk and cheese.

 

[snorky510238]

Bonanza absolutely WAS the best value for money slot ever imo. I say WAS because the way the wins are distributed HAS been changed 1,000,000 percent.

There is a slight possibility, that the rtp has remained the same but, the x200-500 wins have disappeared. The max ways produces a decent win about 5% of the time, if that, whilst the other 95% produces 0 or a poxy little win.

Consecutive losing spins very rarely went beyond 7 or 8 and that wasn’t often. Now you will see at least one streak of 10-15, every session.

The bonus rounds have always been fixed. There has never been a prayer that they are random. That was obvious to me from day one but now they have gimped the bonus rounds, you absolutely cannot fail to see how construed the outcomes are. I mean, if it was random, it would almost be impossible to end feature after feature with the multiplier going no higher than x8.

If the game had played as badly as it does now, from day 1, there is no way I would’ve continued playing it. I only played it like I did because there was real value, in the game.

Again, emphasis on WAS!

 

[geordiecolin]

I will reserve my judgement until I have completed my session on Snowflakes Bonanza while watching ManUre get trounced this evening. I have faith in being able to come back to confirm all of those awfully nasty things that your accused of

Well Snorky I went from 4op spinz to £2.00 and played at that rate for hours and my highest was £294. I hit the bonus with about £150 lefy which was shit and left with £200.
Still good value I would say and with a good chance of hitting the bonus next time I get to £2 spins next time given my own delusional logic
But feck what a piss take to get 1 bonus from a few hours on £2 quid!
Bastid slot!

 

[snorky510238]

Of course there will always be sessions that meet the expected outcome and very occasionally sessions that exceed it. To draw conclusions, samples of a few thousand spins here and there, mean nothing. 7 years plus and thousands of sessions and millions of spins and I think that puts me in quite a good position to judge.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Of course there will always be sessions that meet the expected outcome and very occasionally sessions that exceed it. To draw conclusions, samples of a few thousand spins here and there, mean nothing. 7 years plus and thousands of sessions and millions of spins and I think that puts me in quite a good position to judge.

Have you really done millions of spins on it though?

The game has been out for eight years, to do one million spins on it, you'd need to have done 342 spins on it every single day since it launched.

How many millions are you talking about? If you're claiming three million spins then that's an average of 1000 spins on Bonanza, every single day, for eight years.

Certainly doable, but that's a lot of spins.

If you have done three million spins, then you're going to be really close to T-RTP, so it stands to reason that you'll have lost quite a lot of money on it. If you've done three million spins at an average of 40p per spin, and achieved exactly 96% RTP, you've lost £48,000 playing Bonanza.

 

[snorky510238]

I have done over 2 million. In the days before it was gimped, I was doing over a thousand spins a day because it was viable. Nowadays it’s not remotely feasible.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

2 million is merely part time!!

At least this morning I have my £25 bonus to use with no wagering.

I’m already looking forward to the £12.20 I’ll get back from that!!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I over estimated it…..

A lovely 35% return.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

But most importantly, did you have fun?

Remember, when the fun stops. Stop.

 

[dunover]

I over estimated it…..

A lovely 35% return.

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8.88?? If you were Chinese that'd be the luckiest number possible to end up with. I think it may be the clue to a run of impending huge fortune on the game...

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

But most importantly, did you have fun?

Remember, when the fun stops. Stop.

Nothing more fun than braining out mate.

You of all people should know that.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Nothing more fun than braining out mate.

You of all people should know that.

I've had my moments

Got fucked for £300 last time I went to the pub in about 40 minutes. That was quite an unedifying experience.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yes I saw the video!! You had it coming.

£300 is hardly brains on £2 a spin is it tho!!

More of a very light pasting!!!

Holy shit I’ve got a feature of a 100x deposit.

Guesses in quick ….

 

[dunover]

Yes I saw the video!! You had it coming.

£300 is hardly brains on £2 a spin is it tho!!

More of a very light pasting!!!

Holy shit I’ve got a feature of a 100x deposit.

Guesses in quick ….

65x

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

65x?????!!!!!!!

Let me take u thru it spin by spin.

Just so you can imagine the joy I was experiencing. I was filming a shitty old work monitor so quality not great.

Let’s start with spin number 1.. fairly standard I think you’ll agree.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Moving onto spin no. 2

Again fairly standard. First 2 nearly always dead.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

The excitement really builds on spin number 3.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I’m obviously ecstatic about spin number 4.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Oh the joy on spin 5….

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Now things are really hotting up on spin 6.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

After the huge aftermath of spin 6 we move on to spin number 7..

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

After triggering an alarm at BTG headquarters after back to back wins we move on to spin 8….

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

German for No????

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Cluster of diamonds on spin 10??? Or some 3 of a kind 10’s???? And the excitement of that king dropping on my monster multiplier??? No it didn’t.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Legs 11. Surely a monster????

For bonanza I guess it is!!!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Final spin saviour?????

Yes 2 ways of 3 of a kind gems!!!!

Was buzzing with those!!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Final bonus of £5.62 with a 30p trigger.

A wonderful heart warming 13.3 x

Which takes my average bonus across the week to a staggering 19.35x and that’s factual because I wrote them all down.

13 bonuses from (and it’s an approx) based on my stakes. But I’d guess about 16k spins.

Bringing my feature frequency to a staggering one in every 1,231 spins.

So not only did I get about a third of the bonuses I should have got they were also paying over 4 times less.

I’d like to personally thank BTG for that wonderful week.

Calling it a day early today but here are the figures after one week of play.

A lovely 80.33% RTP

£1,257.46p down on an average stake of just 40p

 

[ChopleyIOM]

At least you had a chance to enjoy that magnificent Bonanza music that plays incessantly and eventually makes you want to scoop your own brain out with a spoon.

 

[goatwack]

Pretty rancid there it must be said, even by Bonanza's standard

It's the type of game that will indulge in playful pillow fights one week, then proceed to rip off your arms and beat you into submission the next, in that Borderline Personality Disorder sort of way.

Obviously it draws players in on some false promise and idea of greatness (potential) and will leave them confused and wondering where it decided to become intolerant, almost as a personal affront!

I know I was balls-deep in this game myself, it tends to embed itself to the point where you think it can turn more favourable without actually doing so. And whilst I've had some great, fleeting blockbuster sessions on it in the past, they'd disappear back into the Bonanza shaft not long after anyway, because of the game's fiendish hooks. Didn't I feel silly!

Variance change or not, the game continues to baffle, and will leave players cursing in the end, however it gets there.....everything in-between is just fluff. Happy to be rid of this game for sure, though could see myself back into its groove if resuming, bemoaning the same tropes and same flourishes the game throws out, such is its addictive nature.

It's a complete money sink of a game however and certainly not to be played exclusively, not if harbouring plans for a satisfying session, or to turn a profit through grinding, as there are surely still many better games for that.

When a game relieves players of £1200 a week however, then that's surely a sign to 'ease off' and accept that the game is not for turning. Bonanza is not prone to manipulation, even if throwing money bags at it

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I disagree!! Must soldier on!!

That big hit is just around the corner I tell you!!!

I never curse……….. normally! But there is something about the game that brings out my vulgarity.

 

[Jono777]

8.88?? If you were Chinese that'd be the luckiest number possible to end up with. I think it may be the clue to a run of impending huge fortune on the game...

Not for me, got married on 8 August 2008!

 

[Siohmy]

I pretty much gave up playing Bonanza fairly quickly when early on in my experience it took over 2300 spins for a feature. Almost never bother with it. That run though makes me glad I binned it. 16k spins is more than I’d likely do in a week but that loss on the sort of stakes I usually play would crush me to be honest. As you say, to not even get any entertainment out of it. One feature every 1200 odd spins. Bloody hell!

 

[gonzo fonso]

well i still play it not like i used to,shame it really never shows its true potential

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Well since my week long brains, paddy power tried to contact me via phone, I obv didn’t recognise the number and ignored it.

Previous to that, they’d sent their usual ‘ we’ve noticed a change in the way u play’ standard generated email, which I get pretty much every week so it’s not a change at all ffs.

They’ve since, applied a ‘temporary’ loss limit(whatever that means) to my account.

Mind u that expires at the beginning of Feb!!!

Either way, it’ll probably end up being the end of any site I can get more than a couple of hundred in a month.

I know they don’t really give a fuck at all but they’re all being forced to do it. I’m surprised my 5k a month limit lasted so long as every other uk ‘bookie’ site took action a couple of years ago. Including their sister sites under the same group.

Obv I’m never sending anybody anything and I would never feel comfortable going crypto either.

Shame as I was sooooooooo enjoying that last session!!! And it was so fucking due!!!

Funny tho, as they’re still emailing me about what I wonderful 2024 I had with them highlighting all my ‘wins’ and notifying me of all the wonderfully crap offers they have.

You couldn’t make it up…….

 

[justdoit]

not sure way you guys keep playing this game, I watch all you wins never see a massive win like this one

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

We play it because of its insane potential mate.

One of us will see it at some point im sure.

 

[kennygamerboy]

Fuck off and die you cunt of a game…

Note the multiplier which was on x4 after 2nd spin.

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This is standard bonanza. I havent played it in a while cos it's horrific. Also noticed a distinct lack of scatters so u just know the bonus isn't dropping. And I found there was hardly any retriggers last straw was a £2 stake bonus that paid £9.10

 

[justdoit]

We play it because of its insane potential mate.

One of us will see it at some point im sure.

I watch all the post since 2016, non of the post had crazy win

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yes I thought the sarcasm was obvious!!!

Where did u get that screen shot from btw? The rainbow riches Megaways??? Does that have a win cap? Pretty insane win for the stake.

 

[justdoit]

Yes I thought the sarcasm was obvious!!!

Where did u get that screen shot from btw? The rainbow riches Megaways??? Does that have a win cap? Pretty insane win for the stake.

£250.000k cap win, on YT they are lot of them