New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[ritae]

Took about 20 spins for the bonus to come in, not the best of wins but topped the balance up.

 

[ritae]

The four wilds landed at 10x multi

 

[The Viking]

The big dilemma here right now is what to spend that massive win on

 

[irish-ranger]

Back with a after a 4 year break shit load of red gems

 

[gonzo fonso]

great hit like 3000x what casino ?

 

[snorky510238]

Last post Nov 5th! Can only assume it got thrown on the fire, where it belongs.

Just for Chopley, this one. Of course, we know what his reply will be. I can see it already. “You’ve been unlucky Snorks”.

Virtually a year and 76,000 spins to fall 2.69% below expected rtp. What a surprise it’s at Mr Vegas. The Casino I always said were creaming off the top.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Just for Chopley, this one. Of course, we know what his reply will be. I can see it already. “You’ve been unlucky Snorks”.

Virtually a year and 76,000 spins to fall 2.69% below expected rtp. What a surprise it’s at Mr Vegas. The Casino I always said were creaming off the top.

Chopley's reply is 'I wouldn't play 76,000 spins on a slot at a casino I thought were cheating me and running dodgy games'.

Although from my last stats at 3Dice which I got in October, these two entries are present

Squirrel Pike 173929 93.30%
Enchanted Spins 155546 93.40%

So I've got Enchanted Spins 2% below RTP after 155,546 spins, and Squirrel Pike 1.6% below after 173,929 spins.

Also at that time my Dice Fusion stats were:

Dice Fusion Prog 50356 91.60%

So that's 3.5% under RTP after 50,356 spins. (I've done loads more spins on that since then, now well over 100K and it's evened out, although I don't have my latest stats for it.)

Anyway, yes, your Bonanza stats at Mr Vegas looks entirely feasible to me

Interestingly, as an aside, Enchanted Spins gets two entries, before and after 3Dice added the sitewide progressive a few years ago, my pre-sitewide progressive stats on the game are this:

Enchanted Spins 82052 98.50%

So that puts me at 3.1% above RTP after 82,052 spins. Variance is a thing, I guess

Or Bonanza is bent and/or Mr Vegas is bent - whatever makes you happy old chap. Have a mince pie or something.

 

[snorky510238]

I wouldn’t expect to be so far away, with a slot that boasts 75% rtp in the base game though tbh. Variance, high volatility, random….etc. They all fall under one category, aka bollox.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I wouldn’t expect to be so far away, with a slot that boasts 75% rtp in the base game though tbh. Variance, high volatility, random….etc. They all fall under one category, aka bollox.

Yeah but even the base game on Bonanza can chuck in rare monster wins, we've seen evidence enough of that here at CM.

Bonanza does have a very 'churny' basegame but ultimately that's working against you, because the end result is always going to be that you'll eventually lose all your money on any game with an RTP of less than 100%, we've talked before in this thread, at length, about what a pernicious maths model BTG have created for Bonanza with the really wonky way it does things.

(I remember @dunover gave a solid summary of it at one point.)

Having a basegame that rarely pokes its head above 50x, that also accounts for a lot of RTP, is a pretty solid way to design a slot that often delivers decent playtime, but also makes sure it takes all your money off you in a rather devious fashion.

Add in the stupid 1/460 feature frequency that when it's dropping in below expected frequency and/or underpaying and hey, there's Bonanza, the slot that'll dick you off for a very, very long time!

 

[gonzo fonso]

Yes im still playing this slot,old habits die hard but sometimes it does pay a little

 

[snorky510238]

Nearly x200! Jackpot territory nowadays.

 

[geordiecolin]

This past week I have started off twice on Bonanza on 40p spins attempting Dunover's stratagy of upping the anti after impoving my balance after a good win. The last time about 4 days ago I got up to £2 spins but lost 30% of what I gained but I didn't take a screen shot. Tonight I started with £50 on 40p spins and got up to this on £1.00 spins but feck turning it up to £2.00 tonight. I am off to play elsewhere on reasonable spins knowing I can slot another day.
No £5/10 quid spins for me
And I have tried this mutiple times and lost bad

 

[geordiecolin]

Am I the only one to progress from lower spins win then increase their spins to .80 p and lose it all? I am on £150 deposit after turning to 80p sins from a £50 deposit.
.80p seems to be the killer amount for me.

 

[dunover]

This past week I have started off twice on Bonanza on 40p spins attempting Dunover's stratagy of upping the anti after impoving my balance after a good win. The last time about 4 days ago I got up to £2 spins but lost 30% of what I gained but I didn't take a screen shot. Tonight I started with £50 on 40p spins and got up to this on £1.00 spins but feck turning it up to £2.00 tonight. I am off to play elsewhere on reasonable spins knowing I can slot another day.
No £5/10 quid spins for me
And I have tried this mutiple times and lost bad

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Yes, but I would revert back to original stake if/when I lost the gains made on previous original stake.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

U also have to be a spawny cunt to get ahead and then raise in the first place, let alone winning again once you’ve raised.

Whatever tactics you employ on this game there will always be horrific dead spells and bonus droughts waiting to fuck you over.

How the fuck Dazza went 3 years and multiple ‘series’ without losing is beyond me and against the maths of the slot over that period of time.

If it was that easy then we’d all be on the clue earning fortunes. So I revert you back to the opening paragraph.

He was either that or selectively uploading videos. Because you can run well for short periods but not for that long. The maths simply don’t allow it.

 

[snorky510238]

The programme has been changed, it’s as simple as that. Conline gambling has become a farce. Disgusting, cheating, filthy providers, scamming their way to making a fortune. It seriously needs looking into but of course, nothing will ever be done about it. In the same way nothing was ever done about FOBT’s until their hand was forced.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Well I am currently £300 down on 40/60p spins and all I’ve had so far is 3 cascade chances and 1 win just over 25x.

But this is nothing unusual to me on the game. Seen it many times. 5 yrs ago I was raging that this just didn’t seem to be happening to anybody else, while I was seeing it weekly.

It’s fucking infuriating seeing money vanish for no value what so ever. But the game has been doing it for years.

The last month or so slots have been kind to me. But I know there is 1000x loss just waiting round the corner to trigger a shit feature, to take it all back and more.

But this has been the pattern for me for years.

I have another £200 to try after what’s left of my £300 vanishes. But I can’t see it featuring. Just getting an L is somewhat of a miracle right now.

 

[Reelsoffun]

I had loads of L’s last night dropping them like smarties, but only managed to find a D once for a crappy 36x

It’s always played like you describe for me too, even when people were hitting 1000x all the time. In the many years I have played this slot I can count on one hand how many 1000x wins I have had, still like the game though, just don’t camp out on it when it’s playing shit, which is most the time lol

 

[Reelsoffun]

Conline gambling

Have to admit that made me chuckle snorks

 

[itsme123]

As with the above, I can’t see a real change in the play over the last 5 years.
For me it’s always been very hit or miss, this weekend has proved that again as I’ve had around 2500 spins in Bet365 with one bonus of x 150.
No massive wins and probably about £250 down but I’ve supplemented that by having decent wins from Other games that have managed to keep me in front.
I think all Bonanza players are the same we always tell ourselves the next bonus is the big one but it never transpires.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Well that £300 loss on a 50p average stake was expected. 600x loss approx with no feature and a massive 4 cascade chances. So thanks for that!!!

Stats below at exactly 60% RTP. It never looked like it was going to do a fucking thing and it didn’t!!!

In fact the stats actually slightly worse than screen shot as the returns contain the results from the £25 bonus I get every Monday morning!!

Still at least I had fun…….

 

[johnnymcc1966]

My last three bonuses have all been excellent. Very surprisingly too.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

3 bonuses in a row of that ilk are a miracle. Well done.

 

[CongoGB]

You're all playing the wrong game anyway - this was my weekend with BTG:

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

A £1500 base hit on 40p??????? WTF landed on that???

 

[Kroffe]

Probably nines, but like... a lot of them.
Or maybe purple chilis.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Definitely purples or reds would be my guess from experience.

 

[CongoGB]

A bunch of cascades, but this was the big one:

 

[Schind]

The programme has been changed, it’s as simple as that.

Happened around August.
Since then I'm only getting a bonus every 600 spins or so. At the moment my last 100 features have come in at an average of 620 spins and it's still increasing (so far this year I'm averaging 934 spins). The average payout is the same, around 90X, but my return from bonuses has dropped from around 20% to around 14%.

Here's a little chart showing the average amount of spins to get a bonus based on my previous 100 bonuses. It starts from two years ago.

 

[dunover]

Happened around August.
Since then I'm only getting a bonus every 600 spins or so. At the moment my last 100 features have come in at an average of 620 spins and it's still increasing (so far this year I'm averaging 934 spins). The average payout is the same, around 90X, but my return from bonuses has dropped from around 20% to around 14%.

Here's a little chart showing the average amount of spins to get a bonus based on my previous 100 bonuses. It starts from two years ago.

Pretty much where it should be, 450-60..
BUT quite an anomaly of late, if the RTP was lower by 2% it would likely be effected by means of reduced bonus round frequency rather than base game pays.

It's almost like it's paying at 90-92% even if you think you're on the 96% version.

I don't think it can go that low, only 94% so it must be just a bad run, unless @snorky510238 tells us otherwise...

 

[Reelsoffun]

EDIT: never mind

 

[Reelsoffun]

Happened around August.
Since then I'm only getting a bonus every 600 spins or so. At the moment my last 100 features have come in at an average of 620 spins and it's still increasing (so far this year I'm averaging 934 spins). The average payout is the same, around 90X, but my return from bonuses has dropped from around 20% to around 14%.

Here's a little chart showing the average amount of spins to get a bonus based on my previous 100 bonuses. It starts from two years ago.

Hmmm interesting? Seems quite high that. Surely getting some near back to back would bring it down and chilli does that fairly frequently in my experience.

Also just querying your 90x ave comment that's way higher than my average for that game how are you calculating that?

Do you gamble or just take the 8 spins etc in any case 90x ave for chilli does not seem right at all.?

EDIT: oh you talking about bonanza not chilli, sorry got confused with the chilli pics.

 

[snorky510238]

Pretty much where it should be, 450-60..
BUT quite an anomaly of late, if the RTP was lower by 2% it would likely be effected by means of reduced bonus round frequency rather than base game pays.

It's almost like it's paying at 90-92% even if you think you're on the 96% version.

I don't think it can go that low, only 94% so it must be just a bad run, unless @snorky510238 tells us otherwise...

Not being funny and no disrespect to those who track their stats, (I love it). BUT, it’s that ****ing blatant of a piss take, that your Auntie Nellie, who’s 90 and only ever played Starburst, would notice!

No abacus required here!

 

[Reelsoffun]

I don't track how many spins they take, even I cant be arsed with that I just track every feature value from each game so I can always see feature min, max, ave etc as I said a year or so ago my bonanza stats are fairly stable hovering between 90 -110x ave and is currently slightly higher than it was over a year ago. like +3x ave thats all.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Well I’ve just returned after my 600x loss without a feature. £80 in on 40p to start.

With £17 left it triggered at last so just over 750x to get a feature.

I think we all know the outcome don’t we…..

Proof below…….

 

[dunover]

Well I’ve just returned after my 600x loss without a feature. £80 in on 40p to start.

With £17 left it triggered at last so just over 750x to get a feature.

I think we all know the outcome don’t we…..

Proof below…….

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7.1x - wow, the average feature seems to be on the upcurve, maybe I need to have another try.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

£120 in now still on same stake. So 900x in total.

Did get this 2nd feature when £100 in today.

2 features in 900x stake of deposits. Jeez thanks bonanza.

Can u imagine Dazza going £3600 in for a 7x and a 26x feature!!!!! That’s the equivalent here folks.

 

[snorky510238]

The games ****ing shocking! Every time you think, I can’t get another session as bad as the last one……The award winning aubergine is waiting.

 

[gonzo fonso]

ive had several hundred bonuses on this game,i think i said it before ive never ever had a 4 cart retrigger,law of averages would say you would get some but no nothing

 

[dunover]

U also have to be a spawny cunt to get ahead and then raise in the first place, let alone winning again once you’ve raised.

Whatever tactics you employ on this game there will always be horrific dead spells and bonus droughts waiting to fuck you over.

How the fuck Dazza went 3 years and multiple ‘series’ without losing is beyond me and against the maths of the slot over that period of time.

If it was that easy then we’d all be on the clue earning fortunes. So I revert you back to the opening paragraph.

He was either that or selectively uploading videos. Because you can run well for short periods but not for that long. The maths simply don’t allow it.

You are partly correct, if a session busted in 15-20mins with bugger-all in the way of action, I would often omit the video but mention in the next 'action' one that I had lost xx previously but didn't upload it. It happened many a time. Less towards the end as I wanted to show both sides, but say 1-2 years before I stopped I could miss out up to 3 or even 4 consecutive shitters as viewers moaned they were boring, so as I said just mentioned them briefly.

The profits I did make were almost always when getting the sequences where the feature was coming in well on the curve i.e. every 2-300 spins as opposed to 7-800 when on a terrible run. Many a time this was dependent on the initial feature paying enough to temporarily put me ahead in the session and allow some spins at double stakes before reducing if I didn't land the feature - when I did get lucky and get it on higher bets, if it was moderate to good then it ensured a good chunk of winnings before reverting back on the next session.

 

[TheSchwad]

A 5 scatter that actually paid, and definitely the highest I've had the multiplier

 

[geordiecolin]

A 5 scatter that actually paid, and definitely the highest I've had the multiplier

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So thats where my deposits in Bonanza went to so quickly last night!
It sure knows how to reel back any winnings it gives out quickly

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

So since last Monday I’ve only played bonanza and a small session on donuts which was absolutely appalling.

I only play on 20-60p mainly, occasionally higher if the balance allows it. Which in this case didn’t happen once.

Basically a fucking grand loss even on those tiny stakes and a disgraceful 81.8% RTP on something in the region of about 15,000 spins in that time.

What did I get for that? A handful of absolute dog shit features paying basically fuck all.

If that’s entertainment then you can stick it up your ass. How the fuck do people session these slots on £2-£5 stakes????

Baffles me.

Evidence below.

 

[snorky510238]

I’ve been calling it for long enough but nobody listens to snorky, snorky know ****all. Snorky’s deluded, snorky imagines it all. Most other players who play enough spins witness the same thing. BTG/EVOLUTION are corrupt, thieving ********.

 

[geordiecolin]

I’ve been calling it for long enough but nobody listens to snorky, snorky know ****all. Snorky’s deluded, snorky imagines it all. Most other players who play enough spins witness the same thing. BTG/EVOLUTION are corrupt, thieving ********.

I will reserve my judgement until I have completed my session on Snowflakes Bonanza while watching ManUre get trounced this evening. I have faith in being able to come back to confirm all of those awfully nasty things that your accused of

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Let’s hope you don’t get the same scatterless reel set (patent pending) that I’ve had for the last week.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Fuck off and die you cunt of a game…

Note the multiplier which was on x4 after 2nd spin.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Ouch

 

[dunover]

Fuck off and die you cunt of a game…

Note the multiplier which was on x4 after 2nd spin.

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Pro-rata that's even worse than your 32-spin 8-scatter one I have on my T-shirt.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

When you think you have a slight chance of recovery after days of heart ache and u get your first feature for 3 hrs which is a +5 and then a retrigger it still bends you over and fucks you up the ass.

A prison sentence would be more desirable than enduring the fucking disgraceful gameplay I’ve had to endure.