New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[snorky510238]

@BTG_Official_ReadOnly1 When is something going to be done about this....
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It's not just occasional. It can often happen every 3 or 4 spins.
Did no one do any research into the stability of the Quickfire platform, before using it?
You must be losing a fortune in revenue, when players give up constantly reloading.

I play on my mobile and the amount of errors on Btg games is beyond ridiculous. I thought it might just be me because my signal is sometimes a bit weak but then I don’t get the same problem from other providers.

The worst problem is loading the game to start with for me. The first few spins are as laggy as hell almost like they need another hamster on the wheel. Invariably I only play one or two spins before I have to reload the game. It is a complete ball ache.

It happens with Bonanza, Chilli and DHV but not millionaire which is odd. I don’t understand exactly how all the mechanics work but it seems like because they are complex games and have a lot going on plus a lot of people playing them (possibly) the doofer can’t cope with the ojimaflip (sorry about the terminology). Don’t know how it’s set up but like the server isn’t of good enough quality and struggles to cope especially when they flip the switch over to the remote rng in Indonesia. You know the one that doesn’t chuff out a D a +5 or a win above x10. (Actually the one they use most often)

Another thing I have noticed is this game always used set to default upon loading as in GOL in view when you start. Now on some sites it does but a lot it doesn’t it loads to the exact screen you left it on. Why do they use different platforms on different sites? Just use ONE THAT WORKS PROPERLY.

Maybe the Btg rep would like to give us the low down on these issues or as he disappeared of late.

 

[curremon]

I dont know whats difference of quickfire and normal bonanza but holy fucking shit quickfire one is bad... i had to lose 700€ before i got 2 bonus rounds allmost back to back and here are the results...

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Those bonuses are all to common I’m afraid. But still doesn’t make it any easier when u get them.

So frustrating when u kick the bonus off to 4-5 dead spins. Especially when you’ve waited an age for it.

Those gem and scatter blockers along the top are fucking infuriating along with bare minimum number of mega ways. Those random spins sure do find them a lot in the bonus don’t they? Then funnily enough when ur back out in the base game those random spins seem a bit more random!!!

 

[snorky510238]

Those bonuses are all to common I’m afraid. But still doesn’t make it any easier when u get them.

So frustrating when u kick the bonus off to 4-5 dead spins. Especially when you’ve waited an age for it.

Those gem and scatter blockers along the top are fucking infuriating along with bare minimum number of mega ways. Those random spins sure do find them a lot in the bonus don’t they? Then funnily enough when ur back out in the base game those random spins seem a bit more random!!!

Yes this random stuff is bs. It really is. I mean you have 117,649 ways available plus 6 chances of 100,842 and so on plus all the other subsidiaries that are available (allegedly) yet in the bonus round time after time your “Ways” are less than 1,000.

Take a sample of 12 spins from any starting point in the base game and compare them with 12 spins in the bonus round regarding the amount of “Ways” and it’s obvious it’s being skimmed

Regarding the symbols you will get the argument from the purists that it uses different reel strips. (Strictly shouldn’t it state this in the rules) It’s a bit open ended as you can’t view them anywhere but regarding the amount of “ways” how can that change?

On a lot of games I have scrutinised lately the reel strips aren’t fixed anyway. The game shows any symbols and that is probably down to lazy programming.

My point is we are led to believe that the symbols are allocated a number and the rng picks one for each reel. If the game is varying the amount of symbols available on each spin/or the reels aren’t consistent/have fixed positions how does that work?

As I posted in the “Any experts on the Napoleon game” thread the visuals you are seeing are not a true representation of the reels (the reel strips are not consistent).

For those of you not familiar with the game I will post just one of the many examples of this below. When playing the game you will never see 2 soldiers in view on the same reel plus a lot of other scenarios that can’t occur but when you look at the example it clearly shows 2 soldiers adjacent on reel 3. One at the bottom in view and the hat of one directly below. So what is going on here?

I have also noticed it on other games, DOA is one that is guilty with regards to the scatters.

I know it’s a bit cross threaded but we have to diversify a bit sometimes and the generalisation here is that the “eye candy “ seems a bit out of sync.

 

[goatwack]

Played Bonanza for the first time in months yesterday.

It buggered me.

That is all.

 

[snorky510238]

There doesn’t seem much life in Bonanza or Dhv for that matter. Bonanza has always been cyclical for me. The problem is the bad times are carrying on for longer and the bonuses when they do come paying smaller.

I think I need to branch out a bit and find some new games. I have tried a few but nothing really floats my boat. It’s possibly got to saturation point with slots as in innovative ideas. Virtually every release is a clone of another game just wearing different pants. I suppose the cake is only so big no matter how you slice it.

 

[nutnut]

The game is playing like dog turd atm.

But the bonuses are comical. the amount of 4-5 dead spins at start of a bonus is just too "random" or even worse getting off to a x8 multi after 2 spins and amount of dead spins after.

these bonuses or the spins itself are not random, which is why everytime a multi peaks above x15 whether you have 1 spin or 9 left you will not hit a win unless its 3 kings at max.

 

[snorky510238]

The game is playing like dog turd atm.

But the bonuses are comical. the amount of 4-5 dead spins at start of a bonus is just too "random" or even worse getting off to a x8 multi after 2 spins and amount of dead spins after.

these bonuses or the spins itself are not random, which is why everytime a multi peaks above x15 whether you have 1 spin or 9 left you will not hit a win unless its 3 kings at max.

That is so true right now. I can hardly hit GOLD but when I do yeah x15 multiplier Maxs out and 6 or 7 dead spins.

Convinced more than ever that every spin base or bonus is predetermined win/amount/lose and the eye candy follows and as I have pointed out the candy has been left in the sun for so long it’s starting to get messy.

 

[nutnut]

That is so true right now. I can hardly hit GOLD but when I do yeah x15 multiplier Maxs out and 6 or 7 dead spins.

Convinced more than ever that every spin base or bonus is predetermined win/amount/lose and the eye candy follows and as I have pointed out the candy has been left in the sun for so long it’s starting to get messy.

its defo predetermined. I've played thousands of bonus rounds. its same pattern

 

[pinnit2014]

Never took screenshot as was on autoplay, and too pissed off: 117k megaways; three full columns of the reds...first reel needing just one, on 2 quid: nada, nothing. What a bastard.

 

[goatwack]

But but the nice BTG man said each spin is completely random anew in the bonus rounds!

I'm at odds what to believe....PR spin or the continual predictable Bonanza patterns......

 

[snorky510238]

I tend to think the pr can say no different. Imagine the repercussions if he did. It would ensure this thread had more life left than the sun.

 

[Reelsoffun]

The game is playing like dog turd atm.

But the bonuses are comical. the amount of 4-5 dead spins at start of a bonus is just too "random" or even worse getting off to a x8 multi after 2 spins and amount of dead spins after.

these bonuses or the spins itself are not random, which is why everytime a multi peaks above x15 whether you have 1 spin or 9 left you will not hit a win unless its 3 kings at max.

Like i said before its more likely that its random, but as the multiplier gets higher it uses different reel strips that result in a harder chance of a winning spin. Can still be random on every spin, but know where your coming from.

 

[Playford7]

Just look at the casumo big wins thread.
Should tell you all you need to know about bonanza and BTG.

 

[snorky510238]

Like i said before its more likely that its random, but as the multiplier gets higher it uses different reel strips that result in a harder chance of a winning spin. Can still be random on every spin, but know where your coming from.

Does that mean the true chances of the amount of ways is handicapped also. When it’s dead you do always seem to see the smaller combos.

 

[Playford7]

Like i said before its more likely that its random, but as the multiplier gets higher it uses different reel strips that result in a harder chance of a winning spin. Can still be random on every spin, but know where your coming from.

Randomly rigged.

 

[goatwack]

I think there's a lot of confusion in regards to this slot. Is it random, how do the reel strips work etc

Lucky then I stumbled across Bonanza's inner workings to make it easier to understand.

Enjoy

 

[Mouche12]

Thanks for clearing that up Goatie!

 

[snorky510238]

Just look at the casumo big wins thread.
Should tell you all you need to know about bonanza and BTG.

Yes considering by my guess that Bonanza almost certainly must of been and could still be Btg’s most played game. We are talking multiple thousands of bonus rounds and not a single monster in sight.

Does make me think that it probably does pay out as much as their other games but the wins are capped so it pays more often but not as big as DHV can for example. It will just have a lot more bonuses between x100 and x1,000. Also a lot more rtp is in the base game.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Does that mean the true chances of the amount of ways is handicapped also. When it’s dead you do always seem to see the smaller combos.

Im not saying it is but I would expect that not everything will be equal on that either, the likes of us are never going to be given or told the odds of the events.


Come on people don't be that naive how else is a slot going to be able to keep to an RTP, you cant expect each aspect to be rosy all slots gimp certain aspects to make the RTP fit.

 

[snorky510238]

I think there's a lot of confusion in regards to this slot. Is it random, how do the reel strips work etc

Lucky then I stumbled across Bonanza's inner workings to make it easier to understand.

Enjoy

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Yes at last proof that it’s rigged.

 

[irish-ranger]

I don't get this hype with bonanza surely this could be any HV game peaks and troughs yet it keeps going on and on repeating the same old bull.
What is it with this game as someone said earlier it's now 2 years old I think we all know how it's plays now yet people keep going back for the same old punishment.
Honestly the only people I see getting serious big hits on this game are nutnut and streamers why the he'll somebody would want to bust thru £700 in a 7 hour session and not drop 1 bonus is beyond me.

 

[Playford7]

Thanks for clearing that up Goatie!

He’s always here to help lol

 

[nutnut]

rare time i dip back into £4 spin to my joy triggers. tell myself x100 will do ends up being x12..........closed game in disgust!

 

[goatwack]

We pine for the bonus, and I've had some fairly good ones.....but the best hits have all come in the base game!

So the bonus is kind of like pulling a munter on a night out -

anticlimactic, but you get through it

 

[snorky510238]

Im not saying it is but I would expect that not everything will be equal on that either, the likes of us are never going to be given or told the odds of the events.


Come on people don't be that naive how else is a slot going to be able to keep to an RTP, you cant expect each aspect to be rosy all slots gimp certain aspects to make the RTP fit.

I don’t think people are necessarily naive (we wouldn’t be questioning it otherwise). We all know something doesn’t quite add up but we are not slot developers, so these grey areas where we are left to figure out for ourselves which isn’t easy, are a bit of a minefield.

What I have deduced from picking at the bones is the way we are led to believe slots work is totally misleading at best.
Lbh 99% of people who play a slot are going to think when they press play in the base or the bonus that they always have the same odds of winning but what we are starting to see is that in reality you don’t. Amazingly though it seems that providers don’t have to mention in the rules even the tiniest piece of information regarding this.

For me it is blatantly misleading and Imo a smart way of cheating. Imagine if I went to my local casino, placed a huge bet and as the wheel started to spin a proportion of numbers just disappeared and became unavailable. Only to be told yes that can happen but by law we don’t have to tell you. Would I just have to say my mistake that’s fine and walk away?

 

[Jono777]

Actually unlikely to play it but I have a gut feeling its going to go payout crazy over this BH weekend.

Just enough to null the rigged posts and then gobble like a turkey next week onwards, lets see........

 

[nutnut]

Actually unlikely to play it but I have a gut feeling its going to go payout crazy over this BH weekend.

Just enough to null the rigged posts and then gobble like a turkey next week onwards, lets see........

certainly isn't paying today, but tbh apart from odd rare good hit it always plays better the weekend.

 

[snorky510238]

It will have to do a bit better than this

 

[goatwack]

Jesus wept

 

[snorky510238]

It will have to do a bit better than thisView attachment 107635

Not as much as me. I am still drying the floor.

 

[Jono777]

Jesus wept

Taking from your good self, defo no pun intended sir ??

 

[Jono777]

It will have to do a bit better than this

Only thing which would have saved yet another broken mouse, a fisted keyboard and a tyraid of abuse would have been that balance, geez that is absolute filth, then again I come to expect nothing less of this vile creation these days.

 

[goatwack]

Taking from your good self, defo no pun intended sir ??

I retired from puns years ago squire

 

[nutnut]

Think I don't give this slot enough shit. I forgot to mention yesterday I had £3 bonus on skyvegas that paid £9!

This games bonuses are just so warped its crazy. Somone will post a x1000+ tomorrow and then we all feed off the other 99% bonuses that pay below x50.

 

[goatwack]

Think I don't give this slot enough shit. I forgot to mention yesterday I had £3 bonus on skyvegas that paid £9!

This games bonuses are just so warped its crazy. Somone will post a x1000+ tomorrow and then we all feed off the other 99% bonuses that pay below x50.

Forgive my insolence Nutnut, but you knew this 8 months ago

 

[nutnut]

Forgive my insolence Nutnut, but you knew this 8 months ago

still love the game just wish chuck out more x1000+ wins id not fault the game.

 

[geordiecolin]

I don't get this hype with bonanza surely this could be any HV game peaks and troughs yet it keeps going on and on repeating the same old bull.
What is it with this game as someone said earlier it's now 2 years old I think we all know how it's plays now yet people keep going back for the same old punishment.
Honestly the only people I see getting serious big hits on this game are nutnut and streamers why the he'll somebody would want to bust thru £700 in a 7 hour session and not drop 1 bonus is beyond me.

I am only an occasional megaways player and I hit this recently without playing it for hours to achieve it so the game can pay. However,I do wonder if the servers are able to track your previous game play and it effects how it performs for you?

 

[goatwack]

still love the game just wish chuck out more x1000+ wins id not fault the game.

We all do, and it will.

Be sure to put 1200x into it first, mind. That's the core mechanic of this game

 

[dunover]

I got beat by the game in my last 2 sessions. You're not alone, feel the warmth of the brotherhood of Bonanza bashers.

 

[snorky510238]

I am only an occasional megaways player and I hit this recently without playing it for hours to achieve it so the game can pay. However,I do wonder if the servers are able to track your previous game play and it effects how it performs for you?

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I have always wondered about slots tracking you. Even more so now that I noticed on a lot of sites it loads to where you left it and not the default screen with GOL in view. Might be nothing but why do Btg use different platforms for the same game? Also they use different platforms on the same site to run their games.

 

[Jono777]

Dunno how Bonanza is playing tonight, didn't get that far but every other slot is in "Staff bank holiday bonuses" mode

Piss Take

 

[snorky510238]

It wasn’t doing much earlier. I am just going to give it a few spins and see.

 

[nutnut]

well I put 50 in 30mins ago

I did £4 spin hit bonus at around £22 balance left. I kid you not, i was x9 after 1 SPIN.........ended up x11 so 10 DEAD SPINS. was a x50 which was disgusting. carried but lowered to £2 got another bonus x100 in end cashed out £500 peaked at £687. have put time out for 48hrs so dont reverse on willhill

 

[nutnut]

here is screenshot to proof im not Bullshitting. i was too enraged to take another at end. also look at all those A's didnt land of course!

 

[goatwack]

well I put 50 in 30mins ago

I did £4 spin hit bonus at around £22 balance left. I kid you not, i was x9 after 1 SPIN.........ended up x11 so 10 DEAD SPINS. was a x50 which was disgusting. carried but lowered to £2 got another bonus x100 in end cashed out £500 peaked at £687. have put time out for 48hrs so dont reverse on willhill

See, apart from a great recovery job there by your good self, I just don't buy how this game would trigger a bonus with 50 in doing £4 spins. It's a rush-job 'leveller' in my view, because if I played 40p spins on a fiver I'd bet my gonads I wouldn't hit a bonus.

Unless of course you're doing a ton of stealth deposits we don't know about!

 

[nutnut]

See, apart from a great recovery job there by your good self, I just don't buy how this game would trigger a bonus with 50 in doing £4 spins. It's a rush-job 'leveller' in my view, because if I played 40p spins on a fiver I'd bet my gonads I wouldn't hit a bonus.

Unless of course you're doing a ton of stealth deposits we don't know about!

This game is just that way for me. If it's due to hit you can hit it off the first spin of your deposit, have done many times. Thats why I play at £2/£4 only now, as why lose that 50 deposit over hours of 20p play and still hit no bonus, or go for it and see if slot is playing nice.

I'd NEVER do this on any other slot, but I also feel it hits quicker at those stakes cause when I used to grind at 20p/40p it would take min 200+ spins before a bonus whilst on higher stakes i defo trigger it quicker.

i have days i put 50 in and its gone in 2mins, but long term it pays to play big or go home for me. Just look at some of those wins recently(and losses)

 

[paul7388]

Was reading this 10 mins ago so thought what the hell will give it a few spins and on only my 10th spin GO and cascade drops in LD. Dropped them in only 2 places it could top of reel 1 and 2. Funny 3 of my last 5 bonuses triggered the same.


In total shock as i expected it to pay very little. It then paid £1.73 in total including triggering win reminding me why i don't play it that much.

 

[snorky510238]

Imo it is a hit and run slot. Like @nutnut says you can hit early on it. If you do then take it, if you don’t then leave after 75 - 100 spins. It is absolutely NOT the slot to keep pumping money into for hours on end. Unless you believe it’s all random and your luck could change any minute.

 

[nutnut]

had high hopes for some decent play time tonight, usually gives your money a good run.

but took 100 off me in no time and about 15 gol in between. sure pay well tonight for someone, but got another 50 and then thats my limit for tonight. deciding when to play it is the problem.