Bitstarz not following own terms.

Wondah

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<div class="bbWrapper">Hello all,<br /> <br /> Does anyone know if there is a active rep for bitstarz casino?<br /> I think i found one under &quot;bitstars&quot; with a S instead of Z but think it&#039;s a typo.<br /> But last activity was 5 months ago.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><b>Please provide more information</b><br /> <br /> Hello Wondah,<br /> Thank you for your post. This account has been createdbefore rebranding from bitstarS to bitstarZ.<br /> BitStarz Casino Support is available on our official website 24/7 to answer all your questions.<br /> Feel free to ask us anything.<br /> <br /> At the same time, let&#039;s keep this forum useful. Right now your message has a deceiving title <br /> and doesn&#039;t contain any relevant information that could help us to understand what went wrong. <br /> BitStarz always follows rules that are written in T&amp;C. <br /> <br /> In case there is some misunderstanding, we kindly ask you to describe the case in detail, so we could help.<br /> <br /> Best regards, <br /> Max<br /> BitStarz Affiliate Manager</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">That is one hell of a re-branding. bitstarZ is now really edgy, what with that Z and everything <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/eek.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-shortname=":eek:" /><img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/what.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":what:" title="Er... what? :what:" data-shortname=":what:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Hi Max, <br /> <br /> I have send a pm first if the rep wat still active, and he replied that he was still active here.<br /> so on 2 december i&#039;ve send him the following pm, and haven&#039;t received a response yet.<br /> But because you ask me to explain and give more information here, i will post the pm here.<br /> <br /> Maybe you can point it out for me in the terms where it says that free spin winnings only could be played on the same provider. (softswiss)<br /> <br /> Kind regards,<br /> <br /> Steven<br /> <br /> <i><u>Hi,<br /> <br /> I won yesterday €7,75 with the free spins promo, but i couldn&#039;t play them on the games.<br /> Tried different games and different providers, when i open the game, it said balance €0<br /> So i went to the live chat and was told that i only could wager the winnings on the same provider from the free spins.<br /> before i played the spins i have read all terms again because it&#039;s a while ago i played at this casino, but that term or rule is nowhere in the terms on the website or in the email i received for the free spins.<br /> <br /> in the mail it says &quot;free spins terms and conditions apply&quot;<br /> <br /> And on the website at the free spins t&amp;c<br /> there is not mentioned about that rule, only &quot;some&quot; restricted games which are also from other providers such as netent and microgaming<br /> <br /> But the support agent Chris Kringle told it is like it is and it&#039;s not mentioned on the website.<br /> <br /> i asked if he can send the chat transcrypt to my email, he said okay but i have to close the chat first.<br /> <br /> i said &quot;okay thanks, have a good night&quot;but he didn&#039;t respond anymore and closed the chat.<br /> <br /> i will not say that he was very rude, but if i have conversations like this at a casino i don&#039;t think i will play there anymore.<br /> i asked normal questions, and i think it&#039;s unfair what he said about the wager on the same provider, and if it is like he said, it has to be mentioned in the terms.<br /> <br /> sorry english is not my main language, but hope you understand.<br /> <br /> my account email is : **********<br /> <br /> kind regards,<br /> <br /> Steven ******</u></i></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Wondah" data-source="post: 799599" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=799599" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-799599">Wondah said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi Max, <br /> <br /> I have send a pm first if the rep wat still active, and he replied that he was still active here.<br /> so on 2 december i&#039;ve send him the following pm, and haven&#039;t received a response yet.<br /> But because you ask me to explain and give more information here, i will post the pm here.<br /> <br /> Maybe you can point it out for me in the terms where it says that free spin winnings only could be played on the same provider. (softswiss)<br /> <br /> Kind regards,<br /> <br /> Steven<br /> <br /> <i><u>Hi,<br /> <br /> I won yesterday €7,75 with the free spins promo, but i couldn&#039;t play them on the games.<br /> Tried different games and different providers, when i open the game, it said balance €0<br /> So i went to the live chat and was told that i only could wager the winnings on the same provider from the free spins.<br /> before i played the spins i have read all terms again because it&#039;s a while ago i played at this casino, but that term or rule is nowhere in the terms on the website or in the email i received for the free spins.<br /> <br /> in the mail it says &quot;free spins terms and conditions apply&quot;<br /> <br /> And on the website at the free spins t&amp;c<br /> there is not mentioned about that rule, only &quot;some&quot; restricted games which are also from other providers such as netent and microgaming<br /> <br /> But the support agent Chris Kringle told it is like it is and it&#039;s not mentioned on the website.<br /> <br /> i asked if he can send the chat transcrypt to my email, he said okay but i have to close the chat first.<br /> <br /> i said &quot;okay thanks, have a good night&quot;but he didn&#039;t respond anymore and closed the chat.<br /> <br /> i will not say that he was very rude, but if i have conversations like this at a casino i don&#039;t think i will play there anymore.<br /> i asked normal questions, and i think it&#039;s unfair what he said about the wager on the same provider, and if it is like he said, it has to be mentioned in the terms.<br /> <br /> sorry english is not my main language, but hope you understand.<br /> <br /> my account email is : **********<br /> <br /> kind regards,<br /> <br /> Steven ******</u></i> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Hi Steven,<br /> <br /> Thank you for raising this with us.<br /> <br /> The ability for us to give free spins on Softswiss games is a brand new feature for us, and they&#039;re<br /> currently limited to the games that are from just Softswiss. It&#039;s just the way it&#039;s set up. With that<br /> being said, we might haven&#039;t been up to date with stating that in the terms and conditions, so<br /> thanks for raising that with us.<br /> <br /> With that being said, I can see that you gambled away the money already on the Softswiss games,<br /> and if you wouldn&#039;t have done that, I&#039;d be happy to give you the 7 euros back. But if you gamble<br /> away the money and later file a complaint that there&#039;s an issue with these terms, you&#039;re basically<br /> covering yourself for losses.<br /> <br /> What I&#039;ll do is that I&#039;ll give you 20 spins on another game, and the bonus money form that, you <br /> can use anywhere you please. I think that&#039;s a pretty fair deal.<br /> <br /> Kind Regards,<br /> <br /> Olle</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="goatwack" data-source="post: 799593" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=799593" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-799593">goatwack said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> That is one hell of a re-branding. bitstarZ is now really edgy, what with that Z and everything <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/eek.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-shortname=":eek:" /><img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/what.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":what:" title="Er... what? :what:" data-shortname=":what:" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Totally, we&#039;re quite creative we gotta admit!<br /> <br /> In all seriousness we used to be .net and we&#039;re not .com, this happened about 2 years ago,<br /> all info about that can be found at the bottom of the page, and the &quot;Z&quot; makes it stand out<br /> a little more.<br /> <br /> ThankZ for the comment <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/wink.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /><br /> <br /> BitStarz</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Hi<br /> <br /> I know i gambled it away, and i did not asked to refund me or give me new free spins.<br /> I received the free spins just for free and didn&#039;t have to deposit for them, so nothing to complain.<br /> <br /> But the reason i have send you a pm is because that rule is not in the term and the support chat said &quot;that&#039;s right, but it is, how it is&quot;<br /> This is not how it works, if i don&#039;t follow the terms, the casino can confiscate my winnings but if the casino does not follow their own terms they can say &quot;it&#039;s not in the terms but it is, like it is&quot; and that&#039;s the rule, but you can&#039;t find that rule anywhere. <br /> <br /> If support guy told me your simple explanation, it was okay for me. <br /> <br /> Anyway, thanks voor de spins or uhh spinZ</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Wondah" data-source="post: 799850" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=799850" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-799850">Wondah said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi<br /> <br /> I know i gambled it away, and i did not asked to refund me or give me new free spins.<br /> I received the free spins just for free and didn&#039;t have to deposit for them, so nothing to complain.<br /> <br /> But the reason i have send you a pm is because that rule is not in the term and the support chat said &quot;that&#039;s right, but it is, how it is&quot;<br /> This is not how it works, if i don&#039;t follow the terms, the casino can confiscate my winnings but if the casino does not follow their own terms they can say &quot;it&#039;s not in the terms but it is, like it is&quot; and that&#039;s the rule, but you can&#039;t find that rule anywhere. <br /> <br /> If support guy told me your simple explanation, it was okay for me. <br /> <br /> Anyway, thanks voor de spins or uhh spinZ </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Got it,<br /> <br /> Well, thankZ for the comment, we&#039;ll be sure to get that put into the terms to avoid<br /> confusion, and as you said. The spins were free anyway <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/smile.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /> <br /> <br /> I will speak to the agent in question.<br /> <br /> Olle</div>
 

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