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Sorry for the bad quality, it was with my mobile phone since I was shocked that I hit something at higher stake. Not always playing at this stake (normally 0,20 € - 0,80 €). Session was like this:

1. Lost 50 € on Diamond Symphony at Betsson, the game can be brutal (0.60 € stake).

2. 30 € deposit at Yako, played Micro Knights with 1.00 € and got free spins which paid around 40 €

3. Left Micro Knights at 95 € and started WWTAB straight with 2.00 € bet size. Money dropped down pretty fast, at ~35 € I already accepted the loss of the deposit but the game gave me free spins and I hoped for a 60 € win so I would cashout. But the game decided to give me multiple hits at 117k.

Could be better but I am more then satisfied.
It just shows that 8 spins can pay.
 
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It is a frustrating game that’s for sure. I had a complete drop on reel 3 to hit a ruby and got a string of 9’s. 2 minutes later I hit the 117 again and what’s on reel 3 a complete string of rubies. Then with the multiplier on x14 it drops the 117 but nothing connects. Not to mention the 89% gamble that was wrong AGAIN!:rolleyes:

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Has this game been nerfed in favour of bonuses actually paying on Bonanza now? Gambles seem to be losing a lot more especially on 8 to 10.

Have recorded stats from my last 8 to 10 gambles and only actually winning 50% based on 52 bonuses triggered in the past week(played a lot). Also feature seems to be giving a lot of 10-20X wins and a lot less of anything over 100X.
 
Has this game been nerfed in favour of bonuses actually paying on Bonanza now? Gambles seem to be losing a lot more especially on 8 to 10.

Have recorded stats from my last 8 to 10 gambles and only actually winning 50% based on 52 bonuses triggered in the past week(played a lot). Also feature seems to be giving a lot of 10-20X wins and a lot less of anything over 100X.
I was thinking exactly the same. I usually give it about 100 spins per session and I used to trigger the bonus fairly regularly although they normally pay less than x25. However the last 12 sessions I haven’t hit one single bonus! Definitely seems to be playing different.

I also think Diamond mine is another that has gone the same way. I haven’t hit a bonus on that for ages that has paid above x100 and there haven’t been many of those.
 
The bonus frequency has also changed dramatically on this game.
Yep I said that months ago in this thread and somebody replied saying it hadn’t and that I was just exceptionally lucky to bonus it quickly :rolleyes: and that it was called variance. I beg to differ played it since it’s release and you are spot
On bonus frequency been changed 1 billion percent
 
Yep I said that months ago in this thread and somebody replied saying it hadn’t and that I was just exceptionally lucky to bonus it quickly :rolleyes: and that it was called variance. I beg to differ played it since it’s release and you are spot
On bonus frequency been changed 1 billion percent

Never played the game enough to have an opinion either way.

Do i think its possible to program a slot to dish out some mega wins early on in its release or in the first few years and then dumb down and still meet rtp? I think so.

The marketing benefits are too compelling to be ignored.

Dare i summon the dancing monkey that is known for his knowledge? hmmm.........
 
Never played the game enough to have an opinion either way.

Do i think its possible to program a slot to dish out some mega wins early on in its release or in the first few years and then dumb down and still meet rtp? I think so.

The marketing benefits are too compelling to be ignored.

Dare i summon the dancing monkey that is known for his knowledge? hmmm.........
You could but I can tell you what the reply would most likely be.

I play games over and this is one of them (not so much lately due to the surgery it has had) and yes I think it is definitely possible to gimp games. Why else do they have updated versions?

There is no question for me that games like Raging Rhino, Montezuma and Game of Thrones most noticeably (amongst many others) have suffered this fate.

There are many ways a slot can pay it’s said rtp without giving out big wins. Just a simple increase of more x5 wins instead of x1 wins in the base game would enable you to shave a lot off the top end long term. With the rtp remaining the same but vastly reducing the likelihood of a big win that would enable a player to take money from the game.

This I am sure happens once a slot passes it’s “best before date”. It is also very noticeable with a lot of slots that they dish out their best wins in the first few months and after that you can revisit them as often as you like and those wins will not be surpassed.

Here is another bit of food for thought. When this slot was released I am sure BTG held a competition for the first player to get to 50 spins (could be wrong about it being a comp as I can’t find traces of it now). Anyway I remember @SteveBr managing to gamble to the 50 spins.

There was certainly some hyp surrounding the 50 spins thing prior to this anyway from BTG. How bad would it have looked if nobody could get anywhere near the 50 spins? What a great marketing ploy though if somebody from Casinomeister does.

Strange how that happened within a few weeks of release isn’t it? Yet over a year and millions of spins later I have yet to see a post where anyone has achieved over 20 spins (if there is any I have missed them). Even the non conspiracists would have to admit that’s one hell of a coincidence!
 
Well in my post on previous page I guess I should have just said what they hit.

Gambled up to 30 spins. Got 2 retriggers so 38 In total and it didn’t even make 100x

Filth at its finest.

I’ve had the odd decent bonus on this where the Gimmick Spin(TM) have connected. But it’s average bonus is surely about 10-30X??

It’s a miracle to get past 14 spins and each bonus is the usual BTG filth of small mega ways and blocking scatters.

I wouldn’t mind if sometimes actually just getting the bonus wasn’t akin to winning the fucking lottery. And then of course you lose probably 25% of the first gamble and when that happens a few times in a row when you’ve gone 1000+ spins to trigger one and then the same for the next it’s tilt fucking central.

But hey it’s all about the fun element and entertainment factors right?
 
38 spins didn’t make x100!:mad: That’s seriously shite, it really is. I know people will say you got unlucky etc but I don’t believe that extra spins makes any difference.

I believe the amount a bonus will pay is predetermined irrespective of the number of spins. Logically IF it was all random how could they possibly control the rtp because In theory everyone could gamble for the 50 spins and lose. How would that work I wonder or is there a loop hole providers have exploited whereby if you have a gamble feature on a slot you can explain away any discrepancies due to people losing the bonus rounds?
 
Like I said above how could they control the rtp if it was all random? Not knowing how the gambles would go. The gambles have to be fixed simply because if they were a true representation of the given % you wouldn’t lose as often as you do. I am wrong way more than I am right on the 50/50 (what a surprise).

Another thing to note is that when the game first came out you would see the 117 in the bonus round fairly often and hit decent wins off of it. Now you scarcely see it and if you do more often than not it’s fruitless.
 
Yep I said that months ago in this thread and somebody replied saying it hadn’t and that I was just exceptionally lucky to bonus it quickly :rolleyes: and that it was called variance. I beg to differ played it since it’s release and you are spot
On bonus frequency been changed 1 billion percent

I have to agree with this as I noticed it too. Sticks out like a sore thumb.

Used to bonus quite regularly, maybe once every 150 spins. Now you're lucky if that's once in 300. Seems to have slipped to being almost as hard as Bonanza to bonus.
 
I wouldn’t mind if sometimes actually just getting the bonus wasn’t akin to winning the fucking lottery. And then of course you lose probably 25% of the first gamble and when that happens a few times in a row when you’ve gone 1000+ spins to trigger one and then the same for the next it’s tilt fucking central.

I gamstopped for 6 months to take a break from gambling last year and this slot was the thing that tipped me towards the decision.

I played a session and no joke I lost 4 times in a row on the very first gamble. That was more than enough for me.
 
There is something seriously wrong with this game on PP been doing an experiment for the past 10 days the bonus will
Never drop in on the heartbeat I’ve counted 87 yes 87 heartbeats and not one bonus has dropped from it how is this random?
 
Lost another 4 bonuses in a row on this. All on phone a friend or ask the audience. 91% audience, nope, it's the 1% answer. Fuck this scamming piece of shit.
Honestly mate I don’t even gamble the bonus ever now it’s not worth it especially when the slots a scam anyway just take the 8 spins. I’m livid that 87 heartbeats and not one bonus has dropped from them
This is all on paddy power which I find strange, doesn’t happen on any other site just paddy power I really don’t know if there is a fault or it’s just a scam! I’ve got them
All written down as well 87!!!!! Would you not think one bonus would drop in during those 87 heartbeat moments. Random my arse. And this ain’t sour grapes Cos I’m generally up on this slot on other sites but PP there is something seriously wrong with the slot on this site also what it will do each and every deposit when
You get close to bust if you have say 10p you will get a win for 10p so you can do a 20p spin of course no win on that spin so it makes sure to take your balance so rigged it’s disgusting on there
 
There is something seriously wrong with this game on PP been doing an experiment for the past 10 days the bonus will
Never drop in on the heartbeat I’ve counted 87 yes 87 heartbeats and not one bonus has dropped from it how is this random?

You need to do a trillion spins before you can come to the conclusion the game is bent.

I did actually get a cascade in for the first time in about 200 the other day.

Was greeted with a ‘win time sock error - server unavailable’

Contacted customer services and they simply laughed when I said the 3rd symbol cascaded in.

Sorry PMK they said, ur clearly trying to pull a fast one.

They’ve obviously been clued up on the subject.

Upon reloading the game the feature had vanished and a message saying ‘server reconnected - feel free to continue getting stitched up’

Obv I soldiered on (well u would wouldn’t you) and did absolute brains.

That is all.
 
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You need to do a trillion spins before you can come to the conclusion the game is bent.

I did actually get a cascade in for the first time in about 200 the other day.

Was greeted with a ‘win time sock error - server unavailable’

Contacted customer services and they simply laughed when I said the 3rd symbol cascaded in.

Sorry PMK they said, ur clearly trying to pull a fast one.

They’ve obviously been clued up on the subject.

Upon reloading the game the feature had vanished and a message saying ‘server reconnected - feel free to continue getting stitched up’

Obv I soldiered on (well u would wouldn’t you) and did absolute brains.

That is all.
was that on PP?
 
Proof from yesterday that more spins means jack shit never had a four scatter that paid well in all the time I’ve played this game I got the four scatters and Cos I was guaranteed 10 I gambled to 12 this was the result
 

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Here’s another couple of stinkers the bonuses have been soooooooooooo bad on this game for weeks I’m sure they have put more Rtp in base cos the base is throwing some nice wins bonuses are 9/10 stinkers
 

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