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[wobble33]

OH FOR GOD'S SAKE.

Literally my first bonus round on 36p spins on BDBA, four gems in free spins with a 5x wild in there, a £150 win. (Yes a long way off the £1500 jackpot, but still 417x stake.)

Few other wins in free spins as well, round paid £174.80.

I know BDBA pretty well, you can go many thousands of spins waiting for a hit like that, so I just got very lucky.

I have wagered a grand total of....... £38.88p

So now, really, I just have to withdraw don't I? This is basically as good as this one is likely to get, I can withdraw £293.92 from a £150 deposit, I forfeit the entire bonus which at this point simply looks like an irrelevance and a burden, and the extended online slots session that I was getting ready to nicely settle into is over before it's started.

Gahhhh, I'll just play out of the profit I suppose, I'm on a no-lose session now, but once I get back down to £150 real funds (assuming that happens before I meet WR which it almost inevitably will), I think it'll be withdrawal time.

I do appreciate the bonus structure here, that I'm not tied to a WR and I can now withdraw my profit, but as dunover correctly identified earlier in this thread, what I'd much rather be doing at this point is settling down to the challenge of meeting a 30xB WR before I could withdraw anything.

Screenshot shows end of the bonus round, 9 lines played at one coin per line, 0.01 size, so 417x stake. £174.80 from a 36p spin.

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chopley

Gahhhh, I'll just play out of the profit I suppose, I'm on a no-lose session now, o no,but once I get back down to £150 real funds (assuming that happens before I meet WR which it almost inevitably will), I think it'll be withdrawal time.

no no no, once you get down to your deposit funds example £150. you have still to fully complete the wagering BEFORE you can withdraw...

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I swear I'm not making this up, just hit 750x stake on Hitman on 45p stake after SIX SPINS, another £337.50p. Picked the top guy who went all the way to the top and then multiplied by 5x.

I've wagered £41.58 and I have a balance of £783.22, of which £633.22 is cash is I forfeit the bonus, for nearly £500 profit.

This one writes itself now, surely?

Crazy, crazy good luck.

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[Wild Reels]

youll have to wager a min of 5x deposit or (1x if your lucky id ask support) whatever it is, term 8.24 on their website (which i cant copy paste)

 

[wobble33]

chopley

very nice take ur money. if you get down to ur deposit with wr left, u cant just withdraw. you have to complete the wr...

 

[ChopleyIOM]

youll have to wager a min of 5x deposit or (1x if your lucky id ask support) whatever it is, term 8.24 on their website (which i cant copy paste)

Hmmm yes I can see that term and it has been talked about in this thread, hopefully Igor can confirm if I'm on a 1x or a 5x requirement before I can withdraw?

 

[wobble33]

youll have to wager a min of 5x deposit or (1x if your lucky id ask support) whatever it is, term 8.24 on their website (which i cant copy paste)

I asked this question earlier and igor answered. should get away with wagering it just x1...speak to live chat chopley.

 

[Igor82]

i suspended myself from the casino for 6 months after i had my £400 withdrawal put back in my balance, and was told to wager more money before withdrawing, only had to do around £90 pound (was stated as x5 but lowered to x1) but my rtp during that session was horrific, then the red mist hit, and just burned it all on IR final rtp of that session was like 58% or something , was more that i was disgusted with myself, for not withdrawing the £350 ish, but honestly i was angry that i'd lost a portion of the money id won previously..

overall my lifetime rtp was still around 110% there so its not a complaint on that front ive had some fantastic wins, its just i dont get these sort of emails from 32red putting money back in my account and telling me to wager it more, i do understand why it might be neccessary, but if i make a big deposit and win big early i dont want to wager anymore thanks, im normally sensible enough to withdraw it at least for another day

This doesn't sound right. Can you PM me your username please? I'd really like to look at that.

 

[Igor82]

Right - officially any new player need to wager their money (first few deps) at least once. Known players fly under radar no probs.

X5 is a new change which I did overnight to combat a swarm of voucher players that were obviously laundering cash.

It needs proper formulating. One one hand I'm glad my team scrutinizes t&c's on the go. On the other - I thought it would fly under the radar until I sort it post holidays properly from the system side.

Sorry it caused confusion guys. 1x dep turnover will be required for new players. Older ones need not fret as they are well known to us.

The 5x req has been put into an algorithm and will be deployed next Monday making that requirement valid for new players depositing from vouchers and clearing funds to alternative WD method after just 1x turnover consistently - it'll be an automated flag.

Wild reels - this is a case of enforced T&C's in black/white format which occasionally ends to player detriment which I don't like seeing. Please PM me hour username. I would appreciate that.

Thanks guys

 

[Igor82]

Lol I just caught onto chopley's streak. All I have to say to that is: HAH!

Good on ya! Glad you took us for a whirl. I'm keen to hear about any shortcomings you noted.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The hits just keep on coming And thanks for the clarity on the 1x/5x wagering.

I'm already comfortably over 1x wagering so I'm just going to play down to £750 or up to £800 (balance currently at £764) and withdraw at that point.

Either way I forfeit the entire bonus but I'm quite happy with that as I can't see this deposit getting any better than it is now, withdrawing at £750 loses the bonus of £150 plus my £150 deposit was already in play, so a profit of £450. Withdrawing at £800 is the same scenario but a profit of £500, so either is a very nice result

Obviously your bonus structure has worked very nicely for me in this instance, but as I said earlier in the thread I'd have been quite happy to take it on with a normal 30xB WR SUB where I had to wager the entire lot before I could withdraw anything

At this juncture however Igor, I hope you won't blame me if I cash out!

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[ChopleyIOM]

And literally whilst I was typing the last post.....

The whole thing's insane, time to bring this session to a close and withdraw!

Sometimes you've just got to appreciate you've had a bonkers run of good luck, and call it a night.......

Cashing out with £850, I lose the £150 bonus, my deposit was £150, profit of £550, I've wagered £191 - crazy lucky session.

(I think 324x stake as per the screeny below is the single best win I've ever had on this slot, and I do tend to play it quite a lot.)

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[Igor82]

Not at all enjoy it!

Edit: was answering your previous post as you posted this

What's your RTP?

 

[wobble33]

chopley

nice one, if you carry on don't forget DONT PLAY these...All AWP/Classic Slots, Baccarat

NOT APPLICABLE....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Not at all enjoy it!

Edit: was answering your previous post as you posted this

What's your RTP?

My account overview tells me I'm at 383.08% RTP, which are very good numbers in anyone's books, although I am on a small spin sample of around 750 results.

I have noticed a fair few typos and suchlike across the site, nothing major but a few things that did stick out TBH, including on the sign-up screen which is an area I'd expect to be especially well proofread. Happy to detail and feedback to you if you wish.

 

[Igor82]

chopley

nice one, if you carry on don't forget DONT PLAY these...All AWP/Classic Slots, Baccarat

NOT APPLICABLE....

It's his cash - real money is applicable on all games. Also I'm a big fan of let the system do it and not getting player mistakes working against them, so bonus funds won't show up on those games

 

[Igor82]

My account overview tells me I'm at 383.08% RTP, which are very good numbers in anyone's books, although I am on a small spin sample of around 750 results.

I have noticed a fair few typos and suchlike across the site, nothing major but a few things that did stick out TBH, including on the sign-up screen which is an area I'd expect to be especially well proofread. Happy to detail and feedback to you if you wish.

I'll PM you

 

[wobble33]

My account overview tells me I'm at 383.08% RTP, which are very good numbers in anyone's books, although I am on a small spin sample of around 750 results.

I have noticed a fair few typos and suchlike across the site, nothing major but a few things that did stick out TBH, including on the sign-up screen which is an area I'd expect to be especially well proofread. Happy to detail and feedback to you if you wish.

RTP 383.08%

good job you were not playing at my stakes early doors. them wins could of being x10 I never had much luck though at my stakes, but luck should change

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Docs were requested last night (just after I went to bed unfortunately) but I sent them off first this morning when I read the email (about three hours ago), so we'll see how the withdrawal progresses from here

 

[dunover]

Docs were requested last night (just after I went to bed unfortunately) but I sent them off first this morning when I read the email (about three hours ago), so we'll see how the withdrawal progresses from here

Well done ol' chap! It's great when you join a site and the wins seem to come rolling in whichever slot you play. Almost like you chose a 'lucky' account when you joined (I know I know! but it seems like that). The bonus worked in your favour on this occasion as you had very early success and thus had no restrictions on w/d. Trust you to steal my thunder (no pun intended) after my gift from Thor on Monday....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Docs were verified in four hours, which is very good. Payment was approved straight after and I got the email telling me that the funds were being transferred to my Neteller account. Checked Neteller and there was nothing in there, gave it an hour and still nothing, so contacted support and was told this:

Thank you for contacting us.

We do apologize for the delay. Unfortunately, we are experiencing some technical issues with payments which may cause some delays in the process.

Whilst confirming that the payment will eventually be processed at some time during the day, we would like to assure you that there is nothing to worry about and that your funds shall be available within your Neteller account shortly.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Kind regards,

No biggy of course and a same-day payout is still very good (assuming it does hit my Neteller account today). Support are quick and responsive.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Payment now received - so from doc submission, to verification, to payment, in around nine hours

 

[Andy Walker]

It's x1 on most players. I had a word with Support to ensure they understand.

We had a swarm of Asians coming in using voucher cards, turning exactly 1x, withdrawing the rest to a wallet and exiting.

We blocked the accounts, refunded the vouchers etc. and added a x5 requirement "on cases" as a deterrent.

Oh come on surely we had a steady stream of potential bonus abusers from a certain region would have been better and we reacted in the interests of genuine players?

 

[BETAT]

I can't speak for Igor, but from here, it just looks to be a statement of fact, not a disparagement of Asians in general. It's really no different than someone saying 'most of our members come from Europe or North America'.

 

[Andy Walker]

I can't speak for Igor, but from here, it just looks to be a statement of fact, not a disparagement of Asians in general. It's really no different than someone saying 'most of our members come from Europe or North America'.

and most of the people that may think about bonus abusing come from?

 

[BETAT]

and most of the people that may think about bonus abusing come from?

I'm afraid I have no idea what most people 'think' about bonus abuse and as such can't speak toward that. The comment merely referenced a region where the casino at one point received a large amount of bonus abuse, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Andy Walker]

I'm afraid I have no idea what most people 'think' about bonus abuse and as such can't speak toward that. The comment merely referenced a region where the casino at one point received a large amount of bonus abuse, nothing more, nothing less.

Look no offence when you have issues and yes they need to be addressed deal with them but don't bring race into the mix, nothing more or nothing less here.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Look no offence when you have issues and yes they need to be addressed deal with them but don't bring race into the mix, nothing more or nothing less here.

'Asian' isn't a race though, it'd be like saying a swarm of Europeans came in, it's regional, not racial.

 

[BETAT]

Actually, I don't recall race mentioned once. It's simply a geographical region. However, if you feel the post is inappropriate, there's a report button on the bottom of the posting area and I'm sure Bryan or another moderator will look at it for you.

 

[dunover]

Oh come on surely we had a steady stream of potential bonus abusers from a certain region would have been better and we reacted in the interests of genuine players?

Oh come on mate! PLEASE don't tell me you're one of those lib-Nazis/professional umbrage-takers that leap upon any person not considered PC enough for your liking! It's this sort of nonsense that's results in people having to tread on eggshells and thus lose freedom of speech and expression. I have always rated Mr. Walker as a clever and witty poster, please tell me this is a wind-up and you're not serious!

Most pickpockets in London are Roma gypsies. Most large-scale cannabis growing operations are by Vietnamese. Most organized under-age child sex-groomers are Asian muslims. Most stabbings in London are committed by blacks. Most of the drunken violence in our towns is by whites, as is the vast majority of football hooliganism. Most cash-machine fraud is by Eastern Europeans. Whether you like it or not these are truths, facts backed up by data. As is Igor's truth about the launderers. And damn me to hell if I stop telling the truth, or become afraid of it due to PC bullying. It'll never happen.

 

[Andy Walker]

'Asian' isn't a race though, it'd be like saying a swarm of Europeans came in, it's regional, not racial.

It doesn't quite work like that, it should but it doesn't.

 

[Andy Walker]

Oh come on mate! PLEASE don't tell me you're one of those lib-Nazis/professional umbrage-takers that leap upon any person not considered PC enough for your liking! It's this sort of nonsense that's results in people having to tread on eggshells and thus lose freedom of speech and expression. I have always rated Mr. Walker as a clever and witty poster, please tell me this is a wind-up and you're not serious!

Most pickpockets in London are Roma gypsies. Most large-scale cannabis growing operations are by Vietnamese. Most organized under-age child sex-groomers are Asian muslims. Most stabbings in London are committed by blacks. Most of the drunken violence in our towns is by whites, as is the vast majority of football hooliganism. Most cash-machine fraud is by Eastern Europeans. Whether you like it or not these are truths, facts backed up by data. As is Igor's truth about the launderers. And damn me to hell if I stop telling the truth, or become afraid of it due to PC bullying. It'll never happen.

When you partition PEOPLE you have to do it in a way that is subtle lol and your "rivers of blood" type of post does not help

 

[dunover]

When you partition PEOPLE you have to do it in a way that is subtle lol and your "rivers of blood" type of post does not help

Is that because of some kind of law that I don't know about, an obscure EU diktat or simply the way you'd prefer it?

The rep said as he found. No foul.

 

[dunover]

I can't speak for Igor, but from here, it just looks to be a statement of fact, not a disparagement of Asians in general. It's really no different than someone saying 'most of our members come from Europe or North America'.

Please BETAT and Igor take Mr. Walker's comment in isolation. Except him, to a man, we know what you meant and where you were coming from and it is certainly not offensive or prejudiced, a mere statement of fact. I would hate it if people felt they couldn't express themselves or any facts due to the new breed of uber-sensitive drones that have been manufactured by state and media in the last decade or so.

 

[Igor82]

Guys, its not the first time Andy derailed a thread with utter nonsense when it comes to this casino, so there's no point feeding this. Honestly.

Alluding to any potential racism is well, very Andy-ish.

I apologise to any potential offended Asians eek - it was meant as matter of fact statement - that's what happened so we had to act on it. I tend to state matter of fact happenings as a matter of fact (lol).

For the record - if you research a little: a HOST of on-line casinos, as in - vast majority - blocks regions such as Singapore due to it being one of the regions that are prone to laundering and fraud. We don't act regionally but behaviourally, like my choice to ignore your repeated attempts to stir the pot.

Thanks, bye.

 

[dunover]

Guys, its not the first time Andy derailed a thread with utter nonsense when it comes to this casino, so there's no point feeding this. Honestly.

Alluding to any potential racism is well, very Andy-ish.

I apologise to any potential offended Asians eek - it was meant as matter of fact statement - that's what happened so we had to act on it. I tend to state matter of fact happenings as a matter of fact (lol).

For the record - if you research a little: a HOST of on-line casinos, as in - vast majority - blocks regions such as Singapore due to it being one of the regions that are prone to laundering and fraud. We don't act regionally but behaviourally, like my choice to ignore your repeated attempts to stir the pot.

Thanks, bye.

You see, this is what I mean. Because you were not guilty of any 'racist' language, but simply guilty of being accused you now feel obliged to make it right with a statement which I bolded in my quote above. This is how the PC bullying works, and now Mr. Walker's words have had an effect on you and have produced the result which he desired. I personally wouldn't have said that, as it's almost like admitting he's right when in this instance he wasn't. I do however understand why you made it, to keep the peace so to speak.

 

[Igor82]

Lol - that boldening did make me realise: potentially*

Let's fork this

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Aye dragging this thread back onto some sort of semblance of being on-topic......

I still have over £200 left in my Neteller account (withdrew £500 from an ATM on my NET+ card yesterday which is the 24 hour max), now I could walk over to the ATM and get the last £200 out as it's 24 hours since I got the £500, or I could take the second deposit SUB at BetAt and see if lightning is minded to strike twice.....

Yes the chances of my second session coming within a million miles of my first session are pretty damn remote, but a £400 bankroll would at least guarantee me a lot of playtime, (assuming I bust out my real funds before hitting anything big that is), and there is always the outside chance of making that 60xB WR.....

I'm in a pretty sanguine place because my first session at BetAt was such a good one (and my gambling spreadsheet is in massively positive territory overall thanks to my continual pillaging of the local AWPs), so I'm very much minded to have a go.

I really am talking myself into this one lolz

 

[dunover]

Aye dragging this thread back onto some sort of semblance of being on-topic......

I still have over £200 left in my Neteller account (withdrew £500 from an ATM on my NET+ card yesterday which is the 24 hour max), now I could walk over to the ATM and get the last £200 out as it's 24 hours since I got the £500, or I could take the second deposit SUB at BetAt and see if lightning is minded to strike twice.....

Yes the chances of my second session coming within a million miles of my first session are pretty damn remote, but a £400 bankroll would at least guarantee me a lot of playtime, (assuming I bust out my real funds before hitting anything big that is), and there is always the outside chance of making that 60xB WR.....

I'm in a pretty sanguine place because my first session at BetAt was such a good one (and my gambling spreadsheet is in massively positive territory overall thanks to my continual pillaging of the local AWPs), so I'm very much minded to have a go.

I really am talking myself into this one lolz

I'd personally go for it - maybe a 150 or 100 deppo rather than the full 200. In my experience when you are on one of those 'runs' as you are, they seem to go on for 15-20 x original deposit. Plus if you hit a profit again before bonus is touched, you can repeat your triumph of the other evening. I'm optimistic for you here. Of course you've still got the banknotes in hand from your profit if you bust. If you feel 'good' go for it. Apparently being in 'a positive frame of mind bring more success at gambling' according to the gem a CS rep once gave me....

P.S. Igor it's dead and gone now.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I'm feeling bold so I've gone for £200.

Which high variance MG monster shall I present myself to for a mauling?

 

[theapple]

I'm feeling bold so I've gone for £200.

Which high variance MG monster shall I present myself to for a mauling?

avalon? jk dont take my advice that slot hates me

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I've decided to have another crack at Bust The Bank. I had a couple of decent hits on this when it was first released (not amazing, just in the region of 300-400x stake IIRC), and it's been a desert of despair for me ever since then, over many thousands of spins.

It's not rolling much better for me this time either

 

[dunover]

I've decided to have another crack at Bust The Bank. I had a couple of decent hits on this when it was first released (not amazing, just in the region of 300-400x stake IIRC), and it's been a desert of despair for me ever since then, over many thousands of spins.

It's not rolling much better for me this time either

I'd have gone for BDBA again. The slot paid you one decent win, and remembering my great run on it at Videoslots tells me that it can give big hit after big hit. Avalon could (as suggested by the other chap) be a potential source of return.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I'd have gone for BDBA again. The slot paid you one decent win, and remembering my great run on it at Videoslots tells me that it can give big hit after big hit. Avalon could (as suggested by the other chap) be a potential source of return.

Yeah I was thinking about BDBA again, but I lost £200 of pretend money on it at 32Red this morning on 45p spins and hardly topped 100x stake, which was a reminder of how horrible it can be when you catch it on the downswing. (I logged in to see what the dish of the day bonus was, needless to say I wasn't tempted by the amazing 25% match offer so just switched to pretend money instead.)

I know what you mean about MG slots when they seem to be on a 'run' (and similarly when they're dead and just never seem to snap back like a random slot should eventually) but I have to overrule myself and remember they're 100% random and there's no such concept as hot or cold (or at least, we have to believe they're 100% random otherwise we're into tinfoil territory, although our DoA escapades have tested my faith in that somewhat, and MG has had me scratching me head over the years I have to say.....).

Bust The Bank is playing like crap though, nearly £100 of my bankroll gone at 30p spins and it hasn't managed over 100x stake yet.

TBH though I really am treating this as a 'no lose' session, my first session at BetAt was so insanely good, and I've got that £500 cash in my hand from my withdrawal already, that I decided to just have a punt with the remaining £200 in my Neteller account, if I l lose it then so be it, an RTP of 383% on my first session was always due to correct downwards sooner rather than later!

(This incidentally is why I absolutely insist on playing at fast paying casinos these days, I know you're fairly happy with the Red Flush group dunover, but for me the pending period alone would totally put me off, I'd have been lucky to get my withdrawal from them before the weekend even if they didn't need docs, let alone if they did. So I'd have had over £700 'stalled' in the casino payout system, which would have prevented me from (a) Getting the satisfaction of having the money in my hand and (b) Having some left over for a redeposit if I wished to, as I don't like funding my Neteller account with further funds when I know have payouts pending, which is why I just don't play at casinos that do that.

BetAt, by contrast, trundled through withdrawal > docs request > docs verification > payout in about 16 hours, and even then they apologised for a delay by their usual standards!)

UPDATE - Bust The Bank managed 119x stake and a couple of Piggy Bank bonuses to put me back up to about £370, time to move on to a different slot I think, the free spins round is very frustrating when those three middle symbols won't drop in.

 

[gagamel]

And may I ask again when Netent is coming on board please?
You would be one of my favourites, but I need Netent games to cover my MG losses.
Do you have a timeframe?

Cheers

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Yes it would be nice to see Netent slots on there, as much as I would happily chuck the vast majority of their recent output into the world's most hellish dustbin, I do have a soft spot for some of their older stuff like Evolution, Beach, JaTB and Wild Rockets.

Plus they have a unique audio/visual style that's very appealing. (Even their shit slots are often very nice to look at and listen to.)

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Problems with Quickfire at the moment? Can't get any MG slots to load......

EDIT - Switched from Chrome to Firefox and now it's fine, unless it was just the new browser session that sorted it. Oh well, IR it is, the last great slot MG produced IMO.

EDIT AGAIN - Or maybe not, the game loads but any attempt to spin produces the old chestnut 'Casino Error' (Number 2, specifically).

EDIT AGAIN - Seems to be anything delivered by Quickfire (not just MG slots), as Supernova does the same which is a Play 'N Go slot but delivered by Quickfire.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Confirmed by live chat as a problem they are trying to fix with MG - on a Saturday night as well! Oh well, it's Battlefield with the chaps at 9pm so I've just got to find something to do until then

(Very quick response from live chat BTW, about 30 seconds.)

Oh yes and only my mum calls me Alexander when she's cross with me about something. (Even now, at the age of 39.) For everyone else it's Alex (I registered with Alexander as it is my full name, so it's not Jorge's fault )

info: Welcome to Bet-at Customer Support. Our Agent will be with you shortly.
info: You are now chatting with 'Jorge'
info: Your Ticket ID for this chat is XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Jorge: Hi Alexander! How are you?
Jorge: Can I assist you with something?
Alexander: Hi there I'm getting 'Casino Error 2' on all Quickfire games at the moment.
Alexander: The games load but I can't spin
Jorge: We are trying to fix this situation with Microgaming
Jorge: This must be solved soon
Alexander: Ahhh right so it's a problem on your end, just wanted to check
Jorge: I regret any inconvenience that this situation may cause
Jorge: Yes
Alexander: That's fine I'll try again later thanks
Jorge: sorry for this Alexander
Jorge: Thanks for your understanding
Alexander: no problem, thanks for the quick response, bye
Jorge: Bye!

 

[Igor82]

MG has indeed played up again. on it.

These days (not jinxing it, not jinxing it, not jinxing it) it gets resolved within hours.

will keep you posted.

EDIT: has just been escalated to senior tech on MG side.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

MG has indeed played up again. on it.

These days (not jinxing it, not jinxing it, not jinxing it) it gets resolved within hours.

will keep you posted.

EDIT: has just been escalated to senior tech on MG side.

Shame that your entire casino can be taken down by a Quickfire/MG problem!

The games are working alright in fun mode but not in real, so presumably you're calling back to the MG servers alright, but they can't process bets or something?

 

[dunover]

When these problems occur, do the casinos get any compensation for the loss of revenue? Like us serfs do for example when the power or water goes off?

 

[Igor82]

When these problems occur, do the casinos get any compensation for the loss of revenue? Like us serfs do for example when the power or water goes off?

We should if you ask me, but fat chance

There are added calls when processing real bets and they aren't being processed on game end. Still waiting for an update... Will keep you posted.