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I've had several problems in the past with the Betat site not allowing me to log in, because the system said i was logging in from a restricted location. <br />
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The last time it happened, I emailed them about it, and their attitude wasn't particularly pleasant, Like they were accusing me of doing something fraudulent. <br />
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So I used a ip tracing site, and took screenshots from it, showing that I was indeed in the UK. <br />
They then replied to say that<b> it was a error in their system</b>, No apology or anything.<br />
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Needless to say, I stopped playing there quite as often, not because of the technical problem, but because of their attitude
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The error is in THE system of using IP addresses of players as though they are unique identifiers like fingerprints. They are not, and never have been, and no amount of technology their end can correct the fundamental problem that IP addresses are DYNAMICALLY ALLOCATED ON DEMAND, rather than provided to subscribers for their exclusive use throughout the length of their contract with their ISP. It is even a problem when on a home internet connection. Using mobile devices the truly suspicious thing would be a player NOT signing on with different IP addresses, as it would point to them using a proxy server or VPN rather than revealing their true IP address.<br />
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Accusing random players of "fraud", even indirectly, when all they have done is use what their ISP or mobile carrier provides, is going to make players feel that the casino is simply inventing reasons not to pay out, especially when these issues usually come up with a withdrawal, rather than a deposit. If they want an explanation, they are asking the wrong people, they need to be asking the big ISP and mobile network providers why different people are showing the same IP address when visiting their site.<br />
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This problem is well known in the fight against piracy, and IP address does not identify an offender. What has to be done is to ask the relevant ISP which of it's subscribers was allocated a given IP address at certain times. This can be used to determine who's internet connection was used to illegally share the latest movie, but would also help in cases like this by showing which casino account holders were connecting via this IP address at the specified times, and from where.<br />
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This problem isn't going away until we all have IPv6.</div>