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Smithyy said:
I logged into my BC Games account and I was able to deposit/play - didn't try to withdraw though. I wasn't forced to submit verification docs, just incentivized with 15 dollars worth of bonus funds.

And just FYI, the way it works in Curacao; there are four Master License holders who then allow companies like Goldenbet and Metaspins to "sub-license" - so there is no casino with a "Master License" so to speak. But you are correct that some Curacao-licensed casinos have started to update their terms and conditions to explicitly mention they don't take UK players.

Laughable, really, though, as any casino in Curacao has NEVER been allowed to take UK players. They should have always stated that in their terms and conditions.
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last time I made deposit and withdraw on Bc last week before update, they not ask me yet for any KYC
 
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justdoit said:
last time I made deposit and withdraw on Bc last week before update, they not ask me yet for any KYC
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If your experience is before the update, I think it's irrelevant to what's going on right now. What I'm seeing is people in the last 24-48 hours being KYC'ed, although I was able to login myself earlier without any problems - but I did not attempt a withdrawal.
 
For ID verification the UK is in there by the way. This is the newly opened casino account via Proton VPN, Ireland. There is no reason for a UK ID not to be accepted, IMO, because a person may be living elsewhere other than the UK. And in general, there could be a number of other reasons. I also see, they even include an option in case one has a UK phone number.

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In my real BC.game account under the Advanced Verification tab, the UK is also available.

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Guntis said:
For ID verification the UK is in there by the way. This is the newly opened casino account via Proton VPN, Ireland. There is no reason for a UK ID not to be accepted, IMO, because a person may be living elsewhere other than the UK. And in general, there could be a number of other reasons. I also see, they even include an option in case one has a UK phone number.

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I use UK id and bills from EU I got accept it on other casinos, on Gamdon I send UK id and UK bill by mistake got accept it, like 2 years ago, maybe they never checked
 
Tried buying crypto on Binance this morning and kept getting an error. Tried crypto.com and it went through. I'll give my bank a call later to find out exactly what is going on. Maybe a change of banks away from BoS is whats needed for me.

They will continue to clamp down before launching their own versions. They are all in favour of the technology, just not the freedom that comes with it.

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Guntis said:
For ID verification the UK is in there by the way. This is the newly opened casino account via Proton VPN, Ireland. There is no reason for a UK ID not to be accepted, IMO, because a person may be living elsewhere other than the UK. And in general, there could be a number of other reasons. I also see, they even include an option in case one has a UK phone number.

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In my real BC.game account under the Advanced Verification tab, the UK is also available.

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you can get lycamobile Irish sim for free you need to pay £5 top up
 
Guntis said:
For ID verification the UK is in there by the way. This is the newly opened casino account via Proton VPN, Ireland. There is no reason for a UK ID not to be accepted, IMO, because a person may be living elsewhere other than the UK. And in general, there could be a number of other reasons. I also see, they even include an option in case one has a UK phone number.

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But if you registered from an Irish IP address there wouldn't be any problems anyway, no? AFAIK Curacao-licensed casinos are allowed to accept Irish players
 
justdoit said:
no idea but I see RocknRolla is flying to Ireland to play, he got fully verified from Ireland
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Yes, many streamers went to Ireland after the UKGC banned bonus buys, autoplay etc. So signing up successfully from an Irish IP address and not being asked (immediately) for KYC docs doesn't surprise me. Just take a look at BCGAME's Twitter/TrustPilot page from the past 48 hours to see how many people are struggling to get their funds though
 
Smithyy said:
Yes, many streamers went to Ireland after the UKGC banned bonus buys, autoplay etc. So signing up successfully from an Irish IP address and not being asked (immediately) for KYC docs doesn't surprise me. Just take a look at BCGAME's Twitter/TrustPilot page from the past 48 hours to see how many people are struggling to get their funds though
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looks like they start paying
 

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justdoit said:
looks like they start paying
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Yes I saw these, but I'm yet to confirm any UK players were able to submit UK docs to pass a KYC check. From what I can tell those were withdrawals that were stalled/awaiting successful KYC confirmation
 
Smithyy said:
But if you registered from an Irish IP address there wouldn't be any problems anyway, no? AFAIK Curacao-licensed casinos are allowed to accept Irish players
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That's right. But for UK players it's impossible to register on BC using their real UK IP address. They get sent to that newly 'invented' BC's .uk version. The point I was making is that if a UK player joins from another country all verification options are available to them, if needed.

As for KYC and providing all their UK docs, I'm not sure how that would turn out. I guess they would need to state that they're not living in the UK, at least at the moment. If anyone had experience with this, it would be interesting to see.
 
Guntis said:
That's right. But for UK players it's impossible to register on BC using their real UK IP address. They get sent to that newly 'invented' BC's .uk version. The point I was making is that if a UK player joins from another country all verification options are available to them, if needed.

As for KYC and providing all their UK docs, I'm not sure how that would turn out. I guess they would need to state that they're not living in the UK, at least at the moment. If anyone had experience with this, it would be interesting to see.
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BC is paying a lot of money for UK streamers to target UK gamblers, I am sure they know the have lot of UK players,
 
Guntis said:
That's right. But for UK players it's impossible to register on BC using their real UK IP address. They get sent to that newly 'invented' BC's .uk version. The point I was making is that if a UK player joins from another country all verification options are available to them, if needed.

As for KYC and providing all their UK docs, I'm not sure how that would turn out. I guess they would need to state that they're not living in the UK, at least at the moment. If anyone had experience with this, it would be interesting to see.
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Yes, exactly. I actually have been in this spot a couple of times in the past and had to use somewhat creative methods to get verified - but it's possible. I was paid in full both of the times I was 'caught' playing from the UK. But due to all of streamers (Bandit, Craig Slots, Jimbo Slots, all guilty, can't stick up for them anymore) convincing players it would all be fine, you can now see on other forums tens and tens of players all saying the same thing - some none-the-wiser, some who understood the risks at least.
 
Smithyy said:
Yes, exactly. I actually have been in this spot a couple of times in the past and had to use somewhat creative methods to get verified - but it's possible. I was paid in full both of the times I was 'caught' playing from the UK. But due to all of streamers (Bandit, Craig Slots, Jimbo Slots, all guilty, can't stick up for them anymore) convincing players it would all be fine, you can now see on other forums tens and tens of players all saying the same thing - some none-the-wiser, some who understood the risks at least.
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if they dont help they own Supporters is very bad, Bandit dont give ? if they get paid or not, and his most paid UK streamer, someone sad he gets paid up to £50k pm from BC, not sure if is true or BS, but he did say he gets paid like £10k from youtube
 
justdoit said:
if they dont help they own Supporters is very bad, Bandit dont give ? if they get paid or not, and his most paid UK streamer, someone sad he gets paid up to £50k pm from BC, not sure if is true or BS, but he did say he gets paid like £10k from youtube
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I don't see any positive outcome; if these KYC checks really are the result of the new changes to the Curacao licensing structure, then it doens't matter how much money the streamers generate for them - they will not break their license terms and conditions and risk their entire business by paying out the streamer's 'fans'.

If, on the other hand, they've just randomly brought in this new rule, I also see little incentive for them to pay out. I have always defended - particularly the Bandit, feel he's a genuine, stand-up guy - but a glance at his forum and how many being are being screwed right now is something that is entirely on him. And I won't at all be suprised if the ASA come down on him like a ton of bricks.

Actually, I'll be even less surprised if we suddenly see Bandit and co vanish without a trace, never to be heard of again.
 
Smithyy said:
I don't see any positive outcome; if these KYC checks really are the result of the new changes to the Curacao licensing structure, then it doens't matter how much money the streamers generate for them - they will not break their license terms and conditions and risk their entire business by paying out the streamer's 'fans'.

If, on the other hand, they've just randomly brought in this new rule, I also see little incentive for them to pay out. I have always defended - particularly the Bandit, feel he's a genuine, stand-up guy - but a glance at his forum and how many being are being screwed right now is something that is entirely on him. And I won't at all be suprised if the ASA come down on him like a ton of bricks.

Actually, I'll be even less surprised if we suddenly see Bandit and co vanish without a trace, never to be heard of again.
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Stake never block Withdraw, but they did block Deposit, so fair play to Stake
 
Guntis said:
How would Stake know that a crypto deposit comes from a UK player?

I think a reason for them to check the player's account is the use of account currency in £ and a .uk email address. No person from other countries would have this combination.
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they ask to get verified, you cant get verified you get deposit blocked, I don't think any Crypto casino cares where you playing from, all they need ID Bill to shout up Licence police
 
satchnz said:
For those who have been asked for KYC by BC Game, which docs are they asking for?

Also, as I have family visiting at the moment, I haven’t watched any of The Bandit’s videos this month. Has he mentioned the KYC actions BC is taking?
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no he sad nothing about KYC, only complaint about withdraw fees ?
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As no one seems to definitively know what's happening with their sudden KYC escapades, I'm to assume that they are adhering to a 'non-UK please' rulebook, in light of any legislative changes.

Or they're being cautious and pre-emptively and outwardly appearing to be KYC-heavy, before slipping back into old habits once all this upheaval is done.

Still not sure how a KYC can be anything other than proof of being a UK player, unless they'd accept any old document. How much are Portuguese passports these days? :p
 
I had no KYC requests but I think I did shove them my other none UK passport a few months back to get level 1 KYC out of the way. But that said im halting play and gonna watch how this all plays out as other changes which are crap now at BC ... such this shit dep bonus. i took it then read terms in 7point type face ;-) restricted games 100s of them loads of potential pitfalls ... and game selection rubbish. It did allow me to cancel the bonus so funds were freed up. Withdrew no issues - this was after the "down time for maintenance"

The rake back is going which on lower VIP levels is crap but higher you got the better it was - think the daily weekly and monthly rake back is also getting hit. They seem to be going for a more standard bonus structure rather than it all tied into wagering to release. But at the same time to stop multi accounters abusiing it they make the terms well in there own favour and ramping up KYC for many. I took me money and run. Will see in a month or so where it is all at.
 
Sudden KYC requests could also be caused by the recent removal of their useless welcome bonus for which you needed to be a friend of Alfred Einstein or have ChatGPT 4 to help you understand how its calculation exactly works and what you can expect overall.

Now these jokers replaced it with a standard one. So it could be that many players are claiming it every 5 minutes using new accounts, and to stop that from happening KYC is a solution.

For cashouts from no-deposit bonuses, they mention KYC in the terms.
 
Deeplay said:
im halting play and gonna watch how this all plays out
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This is the only smart remove right now IMO. I'd go as far as saying even non-UK/US players should consider the same until there's some clarity on exactly what's going on.
 
slot_zombie said:
This is as clear as mud. Some folks have been halted in their tracks such as @kou187 , others report no issues with being able to at least upload.UK docs.

Twitter complaints indicate that players from all over the world are being KYC'd, not just UK and USA players that are being targeted.
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verification is all robots, BC operate same as stake casino, same page set up, same verification service, new company name, they talk to add 98% RTP games etc UKGC licence same place as stake
 
To my surprise, I must admit, I'm starting to see numerous reports that UK players were successfully verified and paid winnings from BCGAME. This could be somewhat of a first; a casino actively conducting KYC checks on UK players they shouldn't be taking bets from and approving them - so it will be interesting to see if this continues.

Note: By no means should this tempt you into heading back there to play, or joining the site if you're a new player. Who knows what's going to happen in the coming days, hours, minutes.
 
Smithyy said:
To my surprise, I must admit, I'm starting to see numerous reports that UK players were successfully verified and paid winnings from BCGAME. This could be somewhat of a first; a casino actively conducting KYC checks on UK players they shouldn't be taking bets from and approving them - so it will be interesting to see if this continues.

Note: By no means should this tempt you into heading back there to play, or joining the site if you're a new player. Who knows what's going to happen in the coming days, hours, minutes.
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Yep have read these reports coming through. Seems like they are paying ... im still holding off though a few weeks to see if things settle. I hope so as BC are just so easy hassle free play. Deposit & loose - goodbye. Deposit and win - cash out instant. end off. No qs asked.
 
bamberfishcake said:
Binance is paying the US Government 4 Billion to stop a year-long investigation.

This is a protection racket, right? Like when the mafia visits your premises and tip bottles off the shelves (or worse) until you agree to pay a cut of your profits each week.

I wonder, is there a bigger bunch of criminals and bandits than the US government?
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Just head east towards Belarus and Russia. There is pride on being a gangster or crook - and no shame whatsoever.
 
Afraid my knowledge of how those governments operate is limited.

I just don't like the way the American Govt is dealing with things at the minute.

Epstein, mRNA vaccines, censorship, insider trading, and the promotion of war don't really follow the intentions of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution.

I don't like the current UK Govt either. I don't think we have ever been in a more worrying time. Maybe the internet just sheds a new light on things, and it has always been like this. In any case, I hope these people get their comeuppance.
 
bamberfishcake said:
Binance is paying the US Government 4 Billion to stop a year-long investigation.

This is a protection racket, right? Like when the mafia visits your premises and tip bottles off the shelves (or worse) until you agree to pay a cut of your profits each week.

I wonder, is there a bigger bunch of criminals and bandits than the US government?
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on Covi19 time App called Robin Hood they had future where you can get $50k as start up credit, one time was bug you got $500k for repayment of $50k back, group of ppl got $500k 2mins later they paid $50k back they transfer $450k on Crypto to another App, year later court latter for cheating wtf ?, but same time Robin hood was under investigation from US Gov do to GameStop, so all their cheating accusations got drop by court, lot of ppl got free $450k, many ppl open multi accounts got like $1m etc ,
P.s. Yolo is group on reddit made by Martin Shkreli

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