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[Hihohiho0]

Babs: thanks for the 2x4 over the head!! very valid points! even though I have never had any issues with Inet or CW...

 

[pacers31]

WHOOOOSH (DEEP BREATH). Sorry Bryan, I know they are a client of yours, but Inets attitude sure has taken some of us aback. Enzo, looks like you can make a fortune as a consultant to the casino world. Being flippant and acting as if customers are a pain in the ass is no way to increase your revenue. And by the way, you still haven't given a tangible answer to my question. Why are you so displeased about answering questions in public? Too busy for us little player types I guess.

Thanks Babs, I'm going for the medicine cabinet now! HAHA. Ahhhh, that's better. I was only pointing out that if legalities (documents, etc.) are so important to Inet, why are we being allowed to play in the first place?? I guess I'm not going to get the answer. Sorry to mix it up, but say what you mean and mean what you say. Quit dancing around the questions!!

 

[RobWin]

OK,,,My Turn...LOL...The only thing that I have been able to come up with over the past 12 years of gambling online for the reason that a lot of these casinos request your docs is this...

What I have noticed is they always ask for you to submit the docs and fax back form when you have used a credit card ie: MC, Visa etc., to make deposits with and I truly believe that the only single reason for this is to somehow thwart off a way of you doing a charge back against your card...I remember years ago each time I would do a cash-out with "The Gaming Club" or "Riverbell" then a couple days later Proc Cyber Services would send me a form listing all of my recent deposits to "Initial Off" on and send back in before they would pay me my winnings.

I guess at the time they could actually make a legitimate case with the credit card provider should you choose to do a chargeback against those deposits once you were paid your winnings...

But what a lot of them don't understand now is the fact that that game doesn't work any longer...at least not here in the US anyway, as the credit card companies would now take the side of the customer since gambling charges and gambling debt are not enforceable here anyway...and most MC charges are now blocked...

I just wish they (The Online Casinos) would stop saying that it is for my protection or for our mutual protection and for my online security, I see so much fallacy in these statements in the fact that if they were truly concerned with my protection and security they would require all these docs Up Front...BEFORE...they allowed you or whomever you say you are to make a deposit using your card...it's that simple, but nary a one that I have ever played at has required this up front.

 

[hippo925]

Hope you get a big bonus for this one hippo!!! I'm sure you will!

i understand your frustration and my post was in no way to belittle your concerns about inet. I do hope that your concerns get addressed but i was really just sharing my opinion based on my knowledge and my experience. I really do try to be as objective as possible but i can totally appreciate that you are coming from a different angle and perspective. Again, my intention was not to upset you and be rest assured i would refuse any benefit related to any of my posts.

I clearly don't play at this casino as much as other members and would gladly defer to a general consesus by our other members, and of course, that includes pacers, kakata, robwin and babs above . I kinda follow where you guys go anyway, lol.

 

[pacers31]

My point exactly Robwin!

 

[pacers31]

Sorry hippo, my comment was out of line. Please accept my apologies.

 

[hippo925]

I just wish they (The Online Casinos) would stop saying that it is for my protection or for our mutual protection and for my online security, I see so much fallacy in these statements in the fact that if they were truly concerned with my protection and security they would require all these docs Up Front...BEFORE...they allowed you or whomever you say you are to make a deposit using your card...it's that simple, but nary a one that I have ever played at has required this up front.

The best message of the day!

and pacers, no, no no. No need to apologize for anything! i think my post was badly timed and misplaced.... easily misunderstood. Your points are very, very valid.

 

[pacers31]

thanks for understanding hippo, heat of the moment, ya know? One last question Inet. In your PM you stated that the reason for requesting my ID was so you had my signature?? Care to elaborate on that one? Not sure how my signature helps you though. I kind of doubt you will respond to it though as you've done such a stellar job thus far. I really have no ax to grind with you, but some of your answers just don't make sense. As judge Judy says, "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining"!

 

[RobWin]

As judge Judy says, "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining"!

How bout this one pacers...

"You bullshit your friends and I'll bullshit mine but lets not bullshit each other"

That's what me and my buddies always say to each other when we know one of us in getting in it too deep...

 

[NASHVEGAS]

How bout this one pacers...

"You bullshit your friends and I'll bullshit mine but lets not bullshit each other"

That's what me and my buddies always say to each other when we know one of us in getting in it too deep...

Siggy material

 

[RobWin]

Siggy material

Good Idea there Nash...

You're welcome to use it if you like...

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Good Idea there Nash...

You're welcome to use it if you like...

TX RW, it would go well as an addition to my current siggy, kinda like Pledge on dust

 

[pacers31]

Man, I never thought I'd say this about anything, but I can't wait for government regulation! (oops, just about threw up in my mouth again!)

 

[RobWin]

Man, I never thought I'd say this about anything, but I can't wait for government regulation! (oops, just about threw up in my mouth again!)

 

[pacers31]

SHHHH, do you hear the Inet crickets chirping???

 

[SlotsWizard]

I don't blame the iNetBet rep for being firm; they're often the first casino to take a beating around here. Even I have sometimes dished it out, but this thread is going a little overboard. If you don't like the way a casino operates, don't play there - it's fairly simple.

As far as documents and ID, have you ever played at a US casino? You need documentation to sign up for the comp program, you need documentation for $1200+ wins, you need documentation to write a check, you need documentation to do a cash advance on your credit card (if done at the cage), etc.

Inetbet is complying with the regulations of their licensing jurisdiction and/or credit/debit card processors by requiring this information. Of course they can't verify face-to-face that you are you, in the way that a land casino cashier can, but when the US finally regulates online casinos you can most likely count on the documentation requirements being two or three times more involved than they currently are. We'll probably have to print and fill out an application form by hand, sign it, snail-mail it, then wait for them to receive it and approve it before letting you play.

iNetBet's procedures are a breeze compared to what the future will be like when the US finally gets it act together.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

I don't blame the iNetBet rep for being firm; they're often the first casino to take a beating around here. Even I have sometimes dished it out, but this thread is going a little overboard. If you don't like the way a casino operates, don't play there - it's fairly simple.

As far as documents and ID, have you ever played at a US casino? You need documentation to sign up for the comp program, you need documentation for $1200+ wins, you need documentation to write a check, you need documentation to do a cash advance on your credit card (if done at the cage), etc.

Inetbet is complying with the regulations of their licensing jurisdiction and/or credit/debit card processors by requiring this information. Of course they can't verify face-to-face that you are you, in the way that a land casino cashier can, but when the US finally regulates online casinos you can most likely count on the documentation requirements being two or three times more involved than they currently are. We'll probably have to print and fill out an application form by hand, sign it, snail-mail it, then wait for them to receive it and approve it before letting you play.
iNetBet's procedures are a breeze compared to what the future will be like when the US finally gets it act together.

If you don't like the way a country operates, don't live there - it's fairly simple.

 

[pacers31]

Until now there hasn't been any beating up of Inet around here. This is the Meisters favorite site! Get serious! Of course BM casinos ask for ID because face to face it is pertinent! And by the way Wiz, how do you know so much about Inet, are you connected to them?? Not making an accusation, but you come across like you are representing them. Just because someone disagrees with you Slotswizard, doesn't make them wrong. I welcome the scrutiny of regulation, at least there will be an enforcement tool to make sure we don't get screwed. You have been on this forum at least as long as me Slots, I sure hope you, more than anyone understands what this whole discussion is about. Maybe you can explain how in an unregulated, illegal business, my signature means squat!! Either party can (and apparently will in some instances) screw the other at any time. Come on regulation, it is time!!

 

[SlotsWizard]

As far as I know, iNetBet doesn't offer illegal sports betting. I'm merely trying to present a different point of view than what's been presented.

And Nash, seriously man... it's much easier to click over to another site than it is to drop everything, leave your friends and family behind, and move to the UK just so you can gamble online.

 

[catrina m]

I have played at INETBET since before the US ban.

They have always been courteous and extremely co-operative when I won, especially when all the other casinos were panicking.

I would say inetbet is one of the safest places to play.

The best RTG in the world as a matter of fact!

 

[pacers31]

I'm glad to hear it Catrina, like I said, I don't play there. The condescending attitude of the Inet rep is what triggered all this. I have no doubt that they are reputable and will pay. My issue is with the attitude that we should be in awe of them or something because they do their job.

Slots, what about sports books?? Maybe I missed something in the post, what are you talking about??

 

[NASHVEGAS]

As far as I know, iNetBet doesn't offer illegal sports betting. I'm merely trying to present a different point of view than what's been presented.

And Nash, seriously man... it's much easier to click over to another site than it is to drop everything, leave your friends and family behind, and move to the UK just so you can gamble online.

Better left for PM as before between you and I, my only real point, reasonable debate can be had without you constantly telling others if you do not like,trust,etc, then do not__________. Do you not see the hypocrisy in your post(s)????? You can PM me if you desire but not really necessary, to avoid more of a derail!

 

[pacers31]

Damn Slots! Sounds like you are telling stories about Nash out of school!! Not my business so that's all I'll say!

 

[SlotsWizard]

Nash - I understand your point, but picking a casino to play at is a far easier choice (for myself at least) than choosing a country to live in. I know I don't have the means to pick up and move to a gaming-friendly jurisdiction, nor would I feel comfortable explaining to my friends and family that I'm moving abroad just so I can play at Cryptologic casinos. I dare say that most people would be of a similar mindset. My point was that if you don't like Pepsi, try Coke! Also, I don't think I am constantly telling others to not _______. I have made very few posts in the past couple of months.

Pacers - I'm not sure what you're talking about with school and such. What I was referring to with sports betting was the US Wire Act, which makes it illegal to accept sports bets over telephone lines. This is the only type of internet gambling which is illegal at the Federal level. The UIGEA only applies to "illegal gambling", which therefore means sports betting, which iNetBet does not offer.

I am not a lawyer, blah blah blah.

 

[chuchu59]

Pacers

Take a deep breath hon! I understand (believe me) how you feel. I too feel that I am bothering them when I have a question and EVERY time I make a post, the first thing they say is "Id appreciated if you kept this information off the boards"

I am sorry, but if you have to go as far as posting on the boards, doesnt that show that they are not handling things the most efficient way. After almost 2 years of playing at tons of casinos, this is the first I had to openly post about receiving docs, bank info, withdraw questions etc...

I too dont know why you guys put this casino on such a high pedestal, because they have fast payouts? Arnt they suppose to pay fast. That is like thanking a father for babysitting his own kids. And to tell you the truth, If I have to hear one more time "I wish we could ....." when they know they can but dont feel like it, Im gonna burst

A casino is a business....you take money , you either give the product if you win or handle customers as you would if they were staring you in the face. They only look so great because there are so many Rogued RTG's. If other RTG's got their act together than Inet wouldnt be so up there. In other words, dont praise a casino because they do what their suppose to do, you praise a company because they go BEYOND and not having live chat is needed and they need to go further before getting so much praise

Anyway Pacer lol......I derailed my own post......I dont think you should chat about US laws and such because they may take that as a threat and since you do partake, you may only be hurting yourself sweetie!

Ah Babs, I wouldnt call this derailing. In fact, I think your post provides much food for thought for the several parties concerned.

Inetbet, it is understandable that you are concerned about people posting on issues concerning your casino. However, your replies were not exactly tone-friendly. There are several casinos eg 32RED, 3 Dice and TIV who are ranked at the top of the list as far as customer service is concerned yet they still receive the occasional complaint here. They came thru these tests with flying colours and there are now even more players impressed by them. Postings from players on issues with casinos may not necessarily be a bad thing. It's how you handle it. The out-and-out roguester, Virtual had Virtualted at the helm for a period and he managed to survive the onslaught by many members here and it was thought then that they had gotten their act together and might be a site worth playing at.

Whenever players bash casinos here at this forum without solid backing, the moderators and a number of members will come to the defence of the casinos so there is no great damage done even if what was posted was detrimental to the reputation of the casino. Conversely, to jump at every post and querying why they were posted does raise suspicions as to why you are so touchy on them.

Pacers31, my friend and obviously a hot-blooded youngster. Maybe you ought to revisit your posts before sending them out. I know we all have our 'spur of the moment' but if this amounts to a personal attack and the integrity of another member, we ought to cool off before posting. Hippo is nice but you might find others deeply offended. We dont want adversaries in this forum, do we?

Sorry to be such a nag guys, but I am getting a little long in the tooth.