Anyone here still playing at 3Dice?

[jas2587]

I think reindeer
still think its odd several months no screen shots
then a not to flattering post an wham
we got yo high roller screen shots



Merry Xmas

We know you will have a better one then most of your players this year Enzo

Have a great day

Cindy

 

[Jasminebed]

Hi Kato,

That pretty much coins high-variance. I wont go mathematical again, but in simple terms .. high variance = bad for casino; good for player.

Hooey Enzo. High variance or low variance, the casino gets it 5percent cut. Not that I have a problem with that, and there was a lot of complaining about Wizard Gaming's software being too low variance.

Now, high or low variance may be a different choice for different players, and I quite like that the 3Dice Slots lobby indicates the variance now.

I've had some good luck at 3Dice and some bad. And I am a continued player, and intend to be.

But to say that high variance is bad for the casino? Yes, sometimes you have to pay out large, but a lot of players bust out of their bankroll. You could nibble it away on low variance, BUT IT IS STILL 5% RETURN to the casino.

There is an interesting thread elsewhere about how casinos still win even with zero edge games, because of their larger bankroll and human nature.

The casino industry is a private sector, profit driven one. But it is also competive.

3Dice still has my business, but that quote is bunkum.

 

[3Dice]

Hooey Enzo. High variance or low variance, the casino gets it 5percent cut. Not that I have a problem with that, and there was a lot of complaining about Wizard Gaming's software being too low variance.

Now, high or low variance may be a different choice for different players, and I quite like that the 3Dice Slots lobby indicates the variance now.

I've had some good luck at 3Dice and some bad. And I am a continued player, and intend to be.

But to say that high variance is bad for the casino? Yes, sometimes you have to pay out large, but a lot of players bust out of their bankroll. You could nibble it away on low variance, BUT IT IS STILL 5% RETURN to the casino.

There is an interesting thread elsewhere about how casinos still win even with zero edge games, because of their larger bankroll and human nature.

The casino industry is a private sector, profit driven one. But it is also competive.

3Dice still has my business, but that quote is bunkum.

Hi Jasmine, this is a common perception mistake. You see the variance determines the playthrough directly. If you would play every session to 0 then it makes no difference indeed. But players generally dont do that - they cash out when they reach a certain amount. It is the amount of play before reaching 0 or cashing out that determines how much the casino makes.

Lets do a numbers sample to make things clear. (I simplified to stay away from decimal numbers). Envision a simple high variance machine. a wheel with 100 possible outcomes, 1 outcome pays 95, the other 99 pay nothing. This is the highest variance machine one could make of this type. If ten players deposit $10, and pull the machine 10 times, then 9 will lose everything and the last one will walk away with the 95. the total stake would be $100, the casino made $5.

A same 95% machine could also be made by a reel with 200 positions .. 1 pays out 95 and the other 199 pay out 0.5. That results in a much lower variance machine. If the same 10 players deposit $10 and play till either cashout or bust, still only one will cashout, but there will be a lot more pulls for the others to find out its not them .. and so a lot more in accumulated house-edge.

From a mathematical and financial point of view, high variance is bad for the casino - good for the player - there's no two ways about it. And if you are not interested in the best odds, but rather playtime, then tournaments are a much better investment of your funds, delivering guaranteed playtime in a way that even the lowest variance machine can't.

Kindest Regards,

Enzo

 

[RobWin]

From a mathematical and financial point of view, high variance is bad for the casino - good for the player - there's no two ways about it. And if you are not interested in the best odds, but rather playtime, then tournaments are a much better investment of your funds, delivering guaranteed playtime in a way that even the lowest variance machine can't.

Kindest Regards,

Enzo

I still fail to see how you are arriving at this end...

Are you saying that the high variance slots are not in the end result still returning to 3Dice the built-in 5% House Edge ?

 

[catrina m]

Do the xmas gifts consider yearly deposits or just the last 30 days

 

[3Dice]

I still fail to see how you are arriving at this end...

Are you saying that the high variance slots are not in the end result still returning to 3Dice the built-in 5% House Edge ?

They absolutely are. I'm saying that the average play-through on a deposit before reaching a desired cashout or zero will be much lower on a high variance machine than on a low variance one.

So in the sample, on the high variance machine the total stake is only $100 .. since 9 of the players go bust without any wins. With a total stake of only $100 that means a house edge of $5.

On the lower variance machine, those 9 people will be able to make more than 10 bets, since their original 10 losing spins will pay back $5, for 5 more spins that will pay back $2.5 so on average they'll get to do about 18 spins instead of 10. Totalling over $170 in total stake meaning more house edge for the casino.

Once again, if everyone plays to 0 there is no difference between low and high variance. But if cashing out once in a while is to be feasible, you need variance. No variance means no chance to win .. the ultimate low variance machine simply pays back $0.95 for every $1 bet .. as you may notice .. no chance to reach your cash-out balance at all ..

Let me know if it makes sense - it is really not as easy a subject as it may seem at first. Which reminds me - I should make a post on another common maths mistake made here on the forum - has to do with the popular formula I keep seeing pop up to calculate the expectation value of bonuses - I've got a $50 for who spots the fundamental flaw before I post about it

Greets,

Enzo

 

[RobWin]

They absolutely are. I'm saying that the average play-through on a deposit before reaching a desired cashout or zero will be much lower on a high variance machine than on a low variance one.

So in the sample, on the high variance machine the total stake is only $100 .. since 9 of the players go bust without any wins. With a total stake of only $100 that means a house edge of $5.

On the lower variance machine, those 9 people will be able to make more than 10 bets, since their original 10 losing spins will pay back $5, for 5 more spins that will pay back $2.5 so on average they'll get to do about 18 spins instead of 10. Totalling over $170 in total stake meaning more house edge for the casino.

Once again, if everyone plays to 0 there is no difference between low and high variance. But if cashing out once in a while is to be feasible, you need variance. No variance means no chance to win .. the ultimate low variance machine simply pays back $0.95 for every $1 bet .. as you may notice .. no chance to reach your cash-out balance at all ..

Let me know if it makes sense - it is really not as easy a subject as it may seem at first. Which reminds me - I should make a post on another common maths mistake made here on the forum - has to do with the popular formula I keep seeing pop up to calculate the expectation value of bonuses - I've got a $50 for who spots the fundamental flaw before I post about it

Greets,

Enzo

Enzo, Suppose that a bag contains three red marbles, four blue marbles, and five white marbles. Then the probability of pulling out a white marble without looking is 5/12, the probability of pulling out a second is 4/11, and the probability of pulling out a third is 3/10. So the probability of pulling out three white marbles is 5/12 4/11 3/10, or 1/22. The chance of getting three red marbles, on the other hand, is 3/12 2/11 1/10, or only 1/220.

In any situation where there are multiple outcomes with different likelihoods, you can calculate the expected value of an investment by multiplying the value of each outcome by the probability that it will occur and then adding all of the results together....

Let me know if any of that makes sense...

 

[just play]

Let me know if it makes sense - it is really not as easy a subject as it may seem at first. Which reminds me - I should make a post on another common maths mistake made here on the forum - has to do with the popular formula I keep seeing pop up to calculate the expectation value of bonuses - I've got a $50 for who spots the fundamental flaw before I post about it

Darn! Can't you post a non math question for people who don't understand these kind of conversations?

 

[mercy]

Thought I was on a playground.

 

[trade]

They absolutely are. I'm saying that the average play-through on a deposit before reaching a desired cashout or zero will be much lower on a high variance machine than on a low variance one.

So in the sample, on the high variance machine the total stake is only $100 .. since 9 of the players go bust without any wins. With a total stake of only $100 that means a house edge of $5.

On the lower variance machine, those 9 people will be able to make more than 10 bets, since their original 10 losing spins will pay back $5, for 5 more spins that will pay back $2.5 so on average they'll get to do about 18 spins instead of 10. Totalling over $170 in total stake meaning more house edge for the casino.

Once again, if everyone plays to 0 there is no difference between low and high variance. But if cashing out once in a while is to be feasible, you need variance. No variance means no chance to win .. the ultimate low variance machine simply pays back $0.95 for every $1 bet .. as you may notice .. no chance to reach your cash-out balance at all ..

Let me know if it makes sense - it is really not as easy a subject as it may seem at first. Which reminds me - I should make a post on another common maths mistake made here on the forum - has to do with the popular formula I keep seeing pop up to calculate the expectation value of bonuses - I've got a $50 for who spots the fundamental flaw before I post about it

Greets,

Enzo

I have noticed that if I take a 100% bonus, or something high like that, my play time is miserable. When I play without a bonus, it usually gives me better play time. I have often thought that this is due to the match we are granted is being calculated into the payout odds.... i.e. 50% higher than they would be without a bonus. Does this make sense and is it possible?

 

[BingoT]

I think reindeer

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[jas2587]

I don't play there anymore, but i've noticed the same things others have noticed. There's a significant decrease in the 3dice screenshots which would mean no one from here is doing well, or many of us just aren't playing there.

Also, i get the feeling that a lot of people are finally realizing the difference between "high variance" slots and slots that simply pay poorly. I think you can only push the "high variance" idea only so far before people start realizing, hey... maybe they are just set lower than we would led to believe.

As for people "withholding" their true experiences or opinions because they are afraid they will no longer get those "freebies", they are doing a true disservice to themselves and others.

What i am looking forward to seeing now, for the people that still play there, is the sudden resurgence of 3dice screens after this thread was started. Also, i'll be looking for the "out of the blue" screenshots that will come just around christmas time.... then the interesting part comes.... everyone noticing how they can't win a thing after christmas.

I don't know what it is about the 3dice slots, but at least i know i'm not the only one getting cautious about it.

And Trollet, just read your post... i respect your opinion and thoughts, but maybe do the same for others? They are just expressing their opinions, asking questions, sharing concerns. Maybe just pretend the title of the thread is not about 3dice? Also, i didn't get the impression that this was a 3dice bashing thread, but your post insinuates that it is.... I hope you don't think that a thread not praising 3dice equals 3dice bashing. Also, i too believe if you don't enjoy yourself at a casino, move on. Maybe this is a sign that players are doing just that and it is an opportunity for the casino to see why?

Anyway, just my opinion.

Have a great weekend everyone!!

The sceenshots have all ready started an didnt even wait a day
wow a miracle

just tooo funny

Cindy

 

[LaurieJim]

The sceenshots have all ready started an didnt even wait a day
wow a miracle

just tooo funny

Cindy

Why are so many concerned about where some like to play and spend their own money, what business is it of yours or anyone elses how many winning screenshots were from 3 dice today? This thread is starting to sound like a bunch of high schoolers, instead of mature adults, the original posters question was asked and answered by some and even a rep. came on and how was he treated? Has anyone ever wondered why some reps have quit posting ?

When people start to complain about 3 dice not paying or i see alot of pitch a bitches, then i will have to call it a day with them, but for now i will continue to play at 3 dice, as well as several other casinos i enjoy.

I was not thrown any bones to post this, i am not a dog............laurie

 

[silcnlayc]

Why are so many concerned about where some like to play

I don't think the question is the concern of where one plays but why does one play at a casino knowingly when it shows not to be player friendly. No one cares where anyone plays, just sometimes one wonders WHY one keep playing at a certain place that a majority has rejected due to different things...this does not say the casino is bad..or the reps are bad..it just interest in why one does what one does when others pass on their experiences..

No harm, no foul on this, just plain curiosity on the WHY...because many see the bad in a place and is really amazed others don't I guess..

To each their own we all do say, just wondering the way...for curiosity's sake, and if it bothers one, then ignore the post..it was a perfect question with no harm meant IMO..but some get testy over others questions and this is what we are here for, to SHARE....if this bothers some, then don't SHARE...

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[LaurieJim]

I don't think the question is the concern of where one plays but why does one play at a casino knowingly when it shows not to be player friendly. No one cares where anyone plays, just sometimes one wonders WHY one keep playing at a certain place that a majority has rejected due to different things...this does not say the casino is bad..or the reps are bad..it just interest in why one does what one does when others pass on their experiences..

No harm, no foul on this, just plain curiosity on the WHY...because many see the bad in a place and is really amazed others don't I guess..

To each their own we all do say, just wondering the way...for curiosity's sake, and if it bothers one, then ignore the post..it was a perfect question with no harm meant IMO..but some get testy over others questions and this is what we are here for, to SHARE....if this bothers some, then don't SHARE... but shouldnt the street run both ways, c/m isnt a one way street..........correct ?

 

[chuchu59]

After a brief absence, I deposited a small amount through ecocard at 3 Dice, won a bit and pressed the cashout button. To my surprise, the withdrawal was not instant. After a couple of hours, as this was only a small amount, I reversed it and lost the whole lot. That's my own fault. What I want to ask though is whether the withdrawals to e-wallets are instant or not.

 

[silcnlayc]

but shouldnt the street run both ways, c/m isnt a one way street..........correct ?

Absolutely but it seems you are in the attack mode

what business is it of yours or anyone elses

and name calling -->

This thread is starting to sound like a bunch of high schoolers, instead of mature adults

Which really isn't sharing your experiences now is it? The actual question was, anyone here STILL play at 3dice, and we replied to the curiosity...no slamming...just responding...and with the STILL in the question it seems that this player had stopped and he/she noticed others have too...


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[RobWin]

After a brief absence, I deposited a small amount through ecocard at 3 Dice, won a bit and pressed the cashout button. To my surprise, the withdrawal was not instant. After a couple of hours, as this was only a small amount, I reversed it and lost the whole lot. That's my own fault. What I want to ask though is whether the withdrawals to e-wallets are instant or not.

QT used to be less than an hour there earlier in the year Chu but as the year went on it became longer and longer to get my cashouts processed back into my QT account...but the way I hear others talk about Moneybookers it is apparently faster than QT but the problem for us in the USA is we can not use MB and one of our fastest choices is QT but I can not figure out why they can do instant cashouts to Moneybookers but can't to QT ??

 

[Pinababy69]

Fundamental flaw = most posters always say how a bonus never costs the casinos a penny, not taking into account the player(s) who cashout on them? And the fact that the longer you play (as in with a bonus), the more likely you are to hit a large win and cashout? That's my guess. OR....it's the fact that they don't take into account ANY wins along the way while playing the bonus? They simply use a mathematical formula that runs your balance down to zero, not factoring in any wins, and especially any large wins.....just saying that you will bust out in x amount of spins at a certain coin amount. Am I close? Huh huh....

You guys seriously sound like a bunch of high school kids....absolutely unreal. Cindy, did it ever occur to you that not everyone posts screenshots? For the most part, I don't. And I've got tons that I could post.....both from MG (32Red) and 3Dice. And if anyone spent any time on 3Dice chat (I haven't lately as I've been busy), they'd know that the people who play the most at 3Dice don't post here at CM and don't post screenshots.

Jesus Christ people, if you don't like a place, don't play there. If you have a bad experience, share it. But to continue to harp on and on and on about a place that you no longer even play at and haven't for a long time....is totally ridiculous. If you want to make a "point" to a casino regarding your feelings for them, do it with your pocketbook. You like them, you play there. You don't like them, don't play there. And if you think online gaming is "rigged" completely, then don't play at all.

IF I do get a Xmas present from 3Dice, 32Red or anywhere else for that matter, I won't be posting about it.....as it just seems like an opportunity for some people to jump all over you that a casino has thrown you a bone or that you're on their payroll. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with saying thanks for being a loyal customer could it?

Simply unfucking real. Glad I took a break to get some work done, I see I haven't missed a thing. Some of you need to grow up and stop treating this forum like a kid's playground.

 

[RobWin]

IF I do get a Xmas present from 3Dice, 32Red or anywhere else for that matter, I won't be posting about it.....as it just seems like an opportunity for some people to jump all over you that a casino has thrown you a bone or that you're on their payroll. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with saying thanks for being a loyal customer could it?

IMO, that's all it is about...about being a Loyal customer with your wallet and I believe I stated that here earlier today...

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/3dice-christmas-presents.28524/

 

[Pinababy69]

IMO, that's all it is about...about being a Loyal customer with your wallet and I believe I stated that here earlier today...

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/3dice-christmas-presents.28524/

If I do get anything Rob, I'll PM you and let you know. I know how you boys like to compare the "size" of things.

 

[RobWin]

If I do get anything Rob, I'll PM you and let you know. I know how you boys like to compare the "size" of things.

Thanks, you know I like to have me cake and eat it too, right...lol

 

[mercy]

And my peeps, what does this have to do with this thread? Huh?

 

[Pinababy69]

Thanks, you know I like to have me cake and eat it too, right...lol

Yes brat. :smilewink:

 

[mercy]

And my peeps, what does this have to do with this thread? Huh?

I'll repeat myself.

 

[RobWin]

And my peeps, what does this have to do with this thread? Huh?

Sorry for the derail there Mercy, it was Pina's fault...

 

[Pinababy69]

I'll repeat myself.

Drinking again you tart?

 

[mercy]

You could have gotten a room or something:xxx

 

[mercy]

Drinking again you tart?

If the shoe fits

 

[Pinababy69]

If the shoe fits

Just ground up coffee beans my friend, lol.

Okay...no more derailing the thread for me, I'll be good.

 

[mercy]

Just ground up coffee beans my friend, lol.

 

[chuchu59]

If I do get anything Rob, I'll PM you and let you know. I know how you boys like to compare the "size" of things.

In Asia, we boys like to talk of things in terms of length

 

[jas2587]

Fundamental flaw = most posters always say how a bonus never costs the casinos a penny, not taking into account the player(s) who cashout on them? And the fact that the longer you play (as in with a bonus), the more likely you are to hit a large win and cashout? That's my guess. OR....it's the fact that they don't take into account ANY wins along the way while playing the bonus? They simply use a mathematical formula that runs your balance down to zero, not factoring in any wins, and especially any large wins.....just saying that you will bust out in x amount of spins at a certain coin amount. Am I close? Huh huh....

You guys seriously sound like a bunch of high school kids....absolutely unreal. Cindy, did it ever occur to you that not everyone posts screenshots? For the most part, I don't. And I've got tons that I could post.....both from MG (32Red) and 3Dice. And if anyone spent any time on 3Dice chat (I haven't lately as I've been busy), they'd know that the people who play the most at 3Dice don't post here at CM and don't post screenshots.

Jesus Christ people, if you don't like a place, don't play there. If you have a bad experience, share it. But to continue to harp on and on and on about a place that you no longer even play at and haven't for a long time....is totally ridiculous. If you want to make a "point" to a casino regarding your feelings for them, do it with your pocketbook. You like them, you play there. You don't like them, don't play there. And if you think online gaming is "rigged" completely, then don't play at all.

IF I do get a Xmas present from 3Dice, 32Red or anywhere else for that matter, I won't be posting about it.....as it just seems like an opportunity for some people to jump all over you that a casino has thrown you a bone or that you're on their payroll. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with saying thanks for being a loyal customer could it?

Simply unfucking real. Glad I took a break to get some work done, I see I haven't missed a thing. Some of you need to grow up and stop treating this forum like a kid's playground.

Since this has my name in it I will respond as for the not every 1 post screenshots its awful funny none for months an your Buddy Robwin brings it to every 1 attention that there is none then LOOKY there are 2 randomly posted amazing

I answered the post that Trollet posted because it had my name in it just Like Enzo's post

no different then any of the rest of yas would do
so enough of 3Dice I used to play there an I know for a fact Enzo throws the bones when he see's a whining customer so he can suck em right back in

wow a potty mouth an religion all in the same post (((Jesus Christ people))) won't repeat the potty mouth

Merry Xmas All


Cindy

 

[spearmaster]

Speaking of length, the length of my patience grows considerably shorter when I have to wade through two pages of total nonsense.

My morning coffee only helps a little bit.

Kindly refrain from any more of the OT posts.... thanks. And also - no more accusations without some reasonable proof.

 

[jas2587]

It's not just you chayton, I think most peeps here feel the same way but most likely are too afraid for whatever reason to speak out about the piss poor payouts there...I have not been able to win anything at all decent there since the middle of August. Something has most definitely been tweaked or changed with the way the software there is paying out the RTP percentages.

I went back thru the screenshots for the past 3 months the other day just to see how many were from 3Dice and compared that to this same time last year and it was close to about 25% or so...

I've almost just stopped depositing there, I might as well just take my lighter and set fire to my money and watch it burn...I would probably get to watch that longer than I can get a decent run with my deposit at 3Dice...

I just can't figure out why Enzo would think that tightening up all the games this bad could possibly help his long term business plan and gain himself and 3Dice more customers by doing this, what I would really like to see is for someone to post their stats here for the past 3 months of play there...I think that would be a huge eye opener for a lot of folks here !

Wow could it all have started with this post hmmmmmmmm

sry Spearmaster saw your post after I clicked save

Cindy

 

[LaHutti]

After a brief absence, I deposited a small amount through ecocard at 3 Dice, won a bit and pressed the cashout button. To my surprise, the withdrawal was not instant. After a couple of hours, as this was only a small amount, I reversed it and lost the whole lot. That's my own fault. What I want to ask though is whether the withdrawals to e-wallets are instant or not.

Can only speak for myself and Neteller, and that's usually instant.
I think one time my withdrawal went into pending, for whatever reason, and I asked Anna in chat why that was...10 secs later the money was in my account.
Now I dare you to try that in ANY other casino.

 

[The Dude]

...if you don't like a place, don't play there. If you have a bad experience, share it. But to continue to harp on and on and on about a place that you no longer even play at and haven't for a long time....is totally ridiculous. If you want to make a "point" to a casino regarding your feelings for them, do it with your pocketbook. You like them, you play there. You don't like them, don't play there. And if you think online gaming is "rigged" completely, then don't play at all.

Thank you for pointing this out. I've mentioned this occasionally, but I think it needs to be repeated every so often.

IF I do get a Xmas present from 3Dice, 32Red or anywhere else for that matter, I won't be posting about it.....as it just seems like an opportunity for some people to jump all over you that a casino has thrown you a bone or that you're on their payroll. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with saying thanks for being a loyal customer could it?

It's always interesting to hear what differing casinos send as gifts, coupons, or bonuses, but in no way should this be a platform to hammer away at a singular company wondering "where's my pressie/bonus etc.?" It comes across as a bit whiny But I'm sure everyone realizes this

Speaking of length, the length of my patience grows considerably shorter when I have to wade through two pages of total nonsense.
...

Kindly refrain from any more of the OT posts.... thanks. And also - no more accusations without some reasonable proof.

Exactly. If you are going to make an accusation that a certain casino runs crooked software, then publish your claim in a coherent and objective manner. This is not the place for casino bashing - I don't care which casino it is. Thank you

 

[Edward D. Wood]

Strange question...

I never managed in the past to get a "woohoeee" moment.
but in the last days, the slots were MORE than nice, and I made
several (from 50$ - 380$) withdrawals.

So, alltogether...maybe you are just the magnet of bad luck.
My advice as a smartass - stop playing there or if you have some
suspicious thoughts...PAB.

 

[prindi]

Huh?

Let me know if it makes sense - it is really not as easy a subject as it may seem at first. Which reminds me - I should make a post on another common maths mistake made here on the forum - has to do with the popular formula I keep seeing pop up to calculate the expectation value of bonuses - I've got a $50 for who spots the fundamental flaw before I post about it

Greets,

Enzo

Enzo! No math mistakes here! I don't care about the math. That just gets in the way of my concentration on getting those butterflies to go down the side. The popular formula is give me the $50. Just me asking for the bonus is the fundamental flaw. Did I win? ROFL!

 

[babs7262]

Id like to take a shot at your $50 flaw contest. This is something I do often at 3dice. Its never been discussed much but my screenshots show it so maybe I have a shot at this lol

I dont play all the lines. IMO (yes, my opinion) I feel ppl think they need to play all the lines as not to miss a win BUT...the way I think is this: Ill play less lines because that gives me more spins and the more spins I get the bigger chance I have at a bonus round.

If I have $10 to play with and tut has 25 lines, I will get 40 spins at 1 coin per line BUT if I only play 20/25 lines I get one extra spin per $1 which gives me 50 spins instead of 40 (its very early and my math may be off). So even though you might miss out on a win from one of the 5 lines your not playing, youll have better odds at getting 3 or more tuts.

One time I played only 3 lines out of 25 but played 17 coins for those 3 lines, got the tuts and it paid out $138. On HV, I often play 10 lines out of 15 at 8 coins per line and although I miss out on some wins, the wins I do get are big.

Does this make sense to you? Do you believe that a player like me (who deposits small) and plays like this has a better chance of getting a higher balance to the point of being able to play all lines with more coins which will result in a higher cashout in the end? Or even if it doesnt, I still like this method because as I said, the more spins you have with your $10, the more likely to hit a bonus round

 

[spike38]

3Dice

When talking payout percentages (like 95 %) these are achieved over thousands upon thousands of spins. There will always be folks that lose straight up without achieving these %'s who believe they've been robbed, and the other end of the spectrum there will be a little old lady from Saginaw that puts in two dollars, takes one spin on one of those high variance games , hits the bonus and wins thousands. The casino doesn't get 5 % automatically from each player just as every player doesn't always get 95 % return. Factor in bonuses and the math really becomes skewed.

 

[DarkMage]

I was going to deposit $50 onto 3dice to play some blackjack but the dealer got 20's every other hand in the play mode for a hour and a half.

Maybe I will wait a little while

 

[RobWin]

One time I played only 3 lines out of 25 but played 17 coins for those 3 lines, got the tuts and it paid out $138. On HV, I often play 10 lines out of 15 at 8 coins per line and although I miss out on some wins, the wins I do get are big.

How in the world did you manage that ?

 

[babs7262]

oops, 5 lines not 3

like this:

 

[RobWin]

oops, 5 lines not 3

like this:

ahhhh, I see...

 

[LaurieJim]

How in the world did you manage that ?

babs has been doing pretty good with the vegasbum method, i just dont have the balls to do it, im a puss...........laurie

 

[Stovetopp]

babs has been doing pretty good with the vegasbum method, i just dont have the balls to do it, im a puss...........laurie

What an understatement LOL

 

[RobWin]

babs has been doing pretty good with the vegasbum method, i just dont have the balls to do it, im a puss...........laurie

That's the same way I won awhile back at Cherry Red by betting big on only five lines as you can see here !

 

[RobWin]

Enzo, did I win the $50 HERE

 

[babs7262]

I just did it again today LOL. Not at 3dice so i wont post the SS here but go look at WS.....5 lines for 50cents and won $153!!!!