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Any help with 'Remote Control' software?

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Any body up for a little project?

I have recently tried to download and use the software provided by Delaware on-line gaming. I can install it and register an account but when I try to log on it tells me there is 'remote control' software on my computer and it must be removed before I can log in.

I'm not too concerned about it now but when New Jersey (my state) comes on line at the end of the month I don't want to have this same problem.

I want to see if any members here can tell me which of the programs on my computer are causing this problem. I'm going to attach screenshots of all the installed software on my computer if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.

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Hm.. Nothing of this looks like a "real" Remote-Control-Software like teamviewer or vnc or something like that.

It could be:

- The Windows-own "Remote-Desktop-Service" (you could deactivate it via services.msc)
- "Windows-Optimizer" like "PC Tools Registry Mechanic" or "RegAlyzer" or "RunAlyter" or ..
- A Virus (like a Keylogger)


That´s what It could be with the information you will give us or me.. :)


EDIT: I remember that when I was install several casinos at my PC my Anti-Virus-Guard alerts me, that there is a trojaner inside.. But not a trojaner in traditional-sense.. but a kind of keylogger / spyware. Many casinos are interested to your "Click-Behavior" inside the software... So what I will say: It could one of your Online-Casino-Software too...
 
Any body up for a little project?

I have recently tried to download and use the software provided by Delaware on-line gaming. I can install it and register an account but when I try to log on it tells me there is 'remote control' software on my computer and it must be removed before I can log in.

I'm not too concerned about it now but when New Jersey (my state) comes on line at the end of the month I don't want to have this same problem.

I want to see if any members here can tell me which of the programs on my computer are causing this problem. I'm going to attach screenshots of all the installed software on my computer if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.

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In a Windows system just open your control panel, then double-click “Internet Options” and in that panel select "Connections", then "LAN Settings". These are the settings used by Internet Explorer and other software. Firefox will also use it if the option "Use Automatically detect System Settings" is selected.

Another way maybe is to use the run box, on the menu bar in XP or type “run” on the search box in Vista, 7 or 8.

Type “firefox -safe-mode” without the quotes to fire up the browser in safe mode and without a proxy or a VPN which could flag a geo-loaction issue, if it works then consider any add ons that may be causing issues.
 
I would def say like Mark that it would be Utorrent with no doubt.

But best suggestion would be if you made extra partion and windows (clean install) And just have that for your Daleware software. At least then you should have no problems. And can have your other windows for everything else. But of course depends on how much storage etc you have :thumbsup:
 
I took off uTorrent and disabled the 'windows remote desktop service' option from the control panel. Same problem.

I started in 'safe mode with networking' and it works fine.

So, it's gotta be one of the programs that starts on boot.

I'll go through them one by one and I'll get the bastard that's messin' with me!

Thanks for the input, much appreciated. :thumbsup:
 
It was the PC Tools Registry Mechanic. An item called SSDMON.

Thanks again for the input.

Looks like a "false positive" issue with their software. It would be helpful if their casino gave a more specific error message as to what was causing the issue, rather than the very vague "remote control software".

Do they REALLY expect their customers to buy a second PC just so that their casino works OK, or stick with the one PC and the regular "black market" casinos that work fine.
 
Looks like a "false positive" issue with their software. It would be helpful if their casino gave a more specific error message as to what was causing the issue, rather than the very vague "remote control software".

Do they REALLY expect their customers to buy a second PC just so that their casino works OK, or stick with the one PC and the regular "black market" casinos that work fine.

Who said anything about being expected to buy a second PC?? Did I miss something??

Geez Vinyl...it was ONE issue on ONE person's PC. You're making it sound like a conspiracy between the casino operators and Microsoft etc to force you to buy new PCs.
 
Looks like a "false positive" issue with their software. It would be helpful if their casino gave a more specific error message as to what was causing the issue, rather than the very vague "remote control software".

Do they REALLY expect their customers to buy a second PC just so that their casino works OK, or stick with the one PC and the regular "black market" casinos that work fine.

I'm sure that's all it was, a false positive, but I think it's just an over-cautious approach to our evolving regulations. There are very specific rules in Delaware (and in New Jersey when it starts) that players must be within the State boundaries when playing. I guess they picture people leaving their computer in Delaware with a remote system running and then playing from somewhere else, which is certainly do-able.

Turns out SSDMonitor is short for 'start up/shut down monitor', which apparently monitors the time it takes for the computer to start up and shut down and uses those times as part of their diagnostic system. I believe when I installed Registry Mechanic (BTW IMO a great program which I highly recommend) I was asked if I wanted to use the 'tea timer' tool, when I checked yes, SSDMonitor was added to my startup.

As a side note my computer started running real hot so I figured, time to clean the cooling fan. I had done this on my old desk top before but never tried it on a laptop. What a nightmare! Tiny screws from 6.5mm to 2mm, tiny plugs, had to take the keyboard off, ribbon cables with no plug end (just the flat cable gets inserted into a clip with a tiny latch). When I had it all apart I thought I had about a 50% it would ever work again, but I got it back together and I'm all good...for now.
 
Who said anything about being expected to buy a second PC?? Did I miss something??

Geez Vinyl...it was ONE issue on ONE person's PC. You're making it sound like a conspiracy between the casino operators and Microsoft etc to force you to buy new PCs.

It was one REPORTED issue, but there was nothing on that list that looked out of place, and there was next to no explanation as to what this "remote control software" was likely to be in the error message. It is very likely that many people will have this trouble, for example, EVERY user of Registry Mechanic living in Delaware will find themselves unable to get the site to work.

There could be many other products that cause such problems, and it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. The "second PC" approach is because it would take a "bare bones" system in order to be free of such problems. Most users install all sorts of things on their PC, and there will be frustration at these problems as there would be an expectation that a properly licensed US based operation would NOT inflict the kinds of problems many players have experienced with other softwares. A "bare bones" second PC would be cheap, probably under $100. It would not have to do much more than be capable of showing web pages and processing web graphics.

These legal US operations not only have to draw in new players, they have to wean existing US players off the "illegal" casinos they currently play at, and hitting them with problems is not going to help.

If anyone REALLY wanted to circumvent the restrictions, they would know how to do it, and how to make their "remote control software" invisible to the probe.

We have already discovered that Geolocation is inaccurate in the Kentucky fiasco, so we will have players in neighbouring states able to play the Delaware only casino, and some players IN Delaware told they are "out of state" and cannot play.
 
It was one REPORTED issue, but there was nothing on that list that looked out of place, and there was next to no explanation as to what this "remote control software" was likely to be in the error message. It is very likely that many people will have this trouble, for example, EVERY user of Registry Mechanic living in Delaware will find themselves unable to get the site to work.

There could be many other products that cause such problems, and it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. The "second PC" approach is because it would take a "bare bones" system in order to be free of such problems. Most users install all sorts of things on their PC, and there will be frustration at these problems as there would be an expectation that a properly licensed US based operation would NOT inflict the kinds of problems many players have experienced with other softwares. A "bare bones" second PC would be cheap, probably under $100. It would not have to do much more than be capable of showing web pages and processing web graphics.

These legal US operations not only have to draw in new players, they have to wean existing US players off the "illegal" casinos they currently play at, and hitting them with problems is not going to help.

If anyone REALLY wanted to circumvent the restrictions, they would know how to do it, and how to make their "remote control software" invisible to the probe.

We have already discovered that Geolocation is inaccurate in the Kentucky fiasco, so we will have players in neighbouring states able to play the Delaware only casino, and some players IN Delaware told they are "out of state" and cannot play.

Nonsense.

You don't have to have a bare bones system to be free of problems.

You have absolutely NO idea how many people are having this issue....it might be specific to that particular program. You have NO idea if there are any geolocation issues in Delaware. You have NO idea whether people are being "hit with problems" en masse.

You're making stuff up again. Adding 2 and 2 and getting 27.

One swallow does not a summer make (unless you're Joanne from the summer I spent near the beach in 1989....)
 
I would suggest uninstalling the other casinos. One by one and then reinstalling if no effect. Apple has remote aspects but you haven't got that in the program list.
 
Nonsense.

You don't have to have a bare bones system to be free of problems.

You have absolutely NO idea how many people are having this issue....it might be specific to that particular program. You have NO idea if there are any geolocation issues in Delaware. You have NO idea whether people are being "hit with problems" en masse.

You're making stuff up again. Adding 2 and 2 and getting 27.

One swallow does not a summer make (unless you're Joanne from the summer I spent near the beach in 1989....)

I can estimate how many people face this problem now that the cause has been identified. The cause is a rather popular piece of software, so a significant number of people face this issue because this piece of software conflicts with the Delaware casino application. As it's a false positive, it is likely to happen with other pieces of software.

The designers of the Delaware system should have thought of this, but it seems they decided to let the customers do their testing and diagnostics for them. Unfortunately, they have been unhelpful with the instructions so that when faced with such an issue, the customer is faced with a vague error message that makes it hard to pin down the cause.

There are other solutions apart from the bare bones system, but they are more technically challenging. Most people buy an off the shelf PC with everything already installed and configured, with the most technical challenge faced then being the installation of new software, expecting it to work provided the step by step instructions are followed. Diagnosing an issue from error messages that are not fully documented in the users guide is not something most customers can do. We see here how unhelpful CS often is when the regular crop of casinos cause odd errors for players. There is no users guide for these softwares, so when a player gets "casino error 2" they expect the CS department to tell them in plain English what is wrong and how to fix it. This rarely happens, and the most common reply is "turn off your anti virus and firewall and try again".

What the Delaware operators need to do is EXPLAIN in PLAIN ENGLISH what they mean by "remote control software", as well as list those products that they know will cause the problem and should be removed before using their casino.

The problem here is that players could be faced with having to remove software they use on a regular basis, so would be faced with uninstalling it to play, but having to reinstall it when they want to use it. This is where a second PC looks like a very good solution, as the softwares that conflict can be on different machines.

I expect an IT expert could come up with a bespoke single PC solution to the problem, but they are unlikely to do this for free. There are however, guides on the Internet on such customisations, some better than others. Some manufacturers and software designers do not like these guides, as some fix things that are intentionally broken by the manufacturer or software designer. Apple don't like them for sure ;-)

This is a case of something being "intentionally broken" by the designers of the Delaware casino, as they have deliberately created this conflict that prevents the casino from working when certain other software is installed on the system.

A guide they would like would say "remove the offending software", but equally there could be a guide on how to get the casino to work alongside the offending software. These guides will be produced because a demand has been created for a solution.

The idea they may not like is to change the name of the offending process so that it looks more "innocent". If they are scanning process names, this move will fool the software. This would not just work with registry mechanic, but also with a true "remote control software" on the list they are intending to ban.
 

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