Any casino/rep willing to step up and promote high RTP

[CasinoNinja]

Really nice to see high RTP games actually being made, like this one

 

[slot_zombie]

Really nice to see high RTP games actually being made, like this one

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That's great. Should give some fair play time and still make money for the casinos.

 

[bamberfishcake]

I had a decent hit last night on it and am chuffed to see games of this RTP coming out.

Mucho kudos to Relax Gaming!

Be warned though, this dead spins and dwains the bawance easiwy. I think a lot of RTP is weserved for the Centuwions.....

 

[Kroffe]

I had a decent hit last night on it and am chuffed to see games of this RTP coming out.

Mucho kudos to Relax Gaming!

Be warned though, this dead spins and dwains the bawance easiwy. I think a lot of RTP is weserved for the Centuwions.....

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I quite like their slots, but i think its a shame they have started including bonus buy in their latest releases.
Probably just in my head, but it feels like slots with the bonus buy function is much harder to bonus than they should be to push people into just buying the bonus.
After all, they make more money that way, and money seems to dictate most decisions made in the casino business.

 

[bamberfishcake]

I quite like their slots, but i think its a shame they have started including bonus buy in their latest releases.
Probably just in my head, but it feels like slots with the bonus buy function is much harder to bonus than they should be to push people into just buying the bonus.
After all, they make more money that way, and money seems to dictate most decisions made in the casino business.

Dont know if it makes much difference either but i feel the same and stay away from them mostly.

Ones like Lil Devil or White Rabbit where it still contributes to one, i feel a little better about.

Hoping that DOA2 bonus buy edition doesnt surface. I probably wont play it so much.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Thanks to those previous few posters who made me aware of Marching Legions!

 

[bamberfishcake]

Thanks to those previous few posters who made me aware of Marching Legions!

Glad i watched your video.

Been playing on and off for a couple of days and am on the way to getting my first feature. Seeing your vid make me withdrawal lol.

Im in profit and was going to try and burn a bit but ill think i will wait for them to come naturally rather than chase.

Decent slot in my short experience. Still capable of major dry spells though. Not sure if you had the same experience.



Had a couple of x200's over a few hit and runs.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Yes it's definitely got some dead patches in it but it doesn't feel crazy high volatility to me. Currently got it lumping away in demo play on turbo spin, as per the video my early guess at a 'safe balance' to see out a feature is 500x stake, but the feature itself is so variable that it guarantees nothing whatsoever. (And literally nothing if you get a zero pay feature, which it can totally do!)

Currently trying to get a fix on the average number of spins to get a feature, and since you need 330 stacks to get a feature that should actually work out to a fairly consistent number.

I reckon about 3000 spins (!) per feature might end up being about right

 

[DeidreB]

Team Videoslots
Been using you a quiet a bit over the years and recently reached Level 300

Wanted to use this thread to say I will be moving on to other providers, specifically due to greedy RTPs.

I closed my video slots account months ago, easy to see the difference in the wins there over time...more I deposited, the less I won...great scene eh! no thanks but keep away from Play N Go, I have noticed lots of changes to the win opportunity at various casino's. Again, the idea of randome anything is a foolish notion when other configurable items are involved, I have noticed the low payouts and quite honestly its pretty damm boring. This industry will eat itself alive, greed always works that way...

Add in a few other fun things like player monitoring of safe gambling practices, nice to get a notification while you are in mid-spin on a game and it pops up to block what you are doing, after an hour.

When I did resign from a casino, they have set me as self-exclusion, which was not correct but buggered me on other casino's. I wrote @Rizk Casino to ask how it was that I had become self-excluded, no answer to that. It definitely didn't come from me. I stopped playing at a few casino's due to poor RTP..

 

[bamberfishcake]

I closed my video slots account months ago, easy to see the difference in the wins there over time...more I deposited, the less I won...great scene eh! no thanks but keep away from Play N Go, I have noticed lots of changes to the win opportunity at various casino's. Again, the idea of randome anything is a foolish notion when other configurable items are involved, I have noticed the low payouts and quite honestly its pretty damm boring. This industry will eat itself alive, greed always works that way...

Add in a few other fun things like player monitoring of safe gambling practices, nice to get a notification while you are in mid-spin on a game and it pops up to block what you are doing, after an hour.

When I did resign from a casino, they have set me as self-exclusion, which was not correct but buggered me on other casino's. I wrote @Rizk Casino to ask how it was that I had become self-excluded, no answer to that. It definitely didn't come from me. I stopped playing at a few casino's due to poor RTP..

Ive only gone back recently to VS because i miss the battle access. Its easy for me now. I habitually stay away from PlaynGo and Red Tiger without any thought. I also leave my favourite provider, No Limit City, when playing at VS.

I hit Netent, BTG, Relax, Push and Microgaming. Plenty to choose from.

I also hit the new releases but like i said, if the PlaynGo or Red Tiger loading screen shows i shut it down before the reels have loaded.

I also resigned from a casino once asking them to remove my data and delete my account to which they replied 'you want to self exclude?' I had only recently started slotting but the grammar caught my attention and i said no. I want my data removed and my account closed. Still not sure if they did what i asked. Following up those things is so time consuming.

 

[pinnit2014]

Ive only gone back recently to VS because i miss the battle access. Its easy for me now. I habitually stay away from PlaynGo and Red Tiger without any thought. I also leave my favourite provider, No Limit City, when playing at VS.

I hit Netent, BTG, Relax, Push and Microgaming. Plenty to choose from.

I also hit the new releases but like i said, if the PlaynGo or Red Tiger loading screen shows i shut it down before the reels have loaded.

I also resigned from a casino once asking them to remove my data and delete my account to which they replied 'you want to self exclude?' I had only recently started slotting but the grammar caught my attention and i said no. I want my data removed and my account closed. Still not sure if they did what i asked. Following up those things is so time consuming.

They have to keep certain data for a period of time (6 years?) for legal/regulatory purposes but closing the a/c kick starts it, plus they shouldn't be processing any of it.

Yeah - had the same with one place: can you close....how you do you want to SE for? I don't want to SE, i want to close: Ok, we offer 6 months etc. OH, ffs, close, close close, no SE, close!

 

[colinsunderland]

Did everyone who's still playing there get notification that the privacy policy changed a few days ago?

 

[Mouche12]

Yes, I did but only had a brief look. Did anything interesting catch your eye?

 

[slotmaster]

Did everyone who's still playing there get notification that the privacy policy changed a few days ago?

Yes, I was going to ask you your thoughts, haha.

Also terms and conditions like yesterday.

 

[colinsunderland]

Yes, I did but only had a brief look. Did anything interesting catch your eye?

That they can share your data with MrVegas, which isn't an issue if you play there (and don't mind) but is if you have closed your account, and therefore haven't agreed to the new policy.
Videoslots live chat say Videoslots and MrVegas are the same company, but thats not true as Videoslots is Videoslots Ltd, MrVegas is MrVegas Ltd.

@Team.Videoslots why are live chat saying its the same company?
What are the circumstances you share data with each other, in the event a customer has a closed account, or is self excluded, therefore hasn't agreed to the new Privacy Policy?
I also asked a question about affiliate tags that you seem to have missed?

 

[Harry_BKK]

Yes it's definitely got some dead patches in it but it doesn't feel crazy high volatility to me. Currently got it lumping away in demo play on turbo spin, as per the video my early guess at a 'safe balance' to see out a feature is 500x stake, but the feature itself is so variable that it guarantees nothing whatsoever. (And literally nothing if you get a zero pay feature, which it can totally do!)

Currently trying to get a fix on the average number of spins to get a feature, and since you need 330 stacks to get a feature that should actually work out to a fairly consistent number.

I reckon about 3000 spins (!) per feature might end up being about right

Your estimate for the feature frequency is not that wrong.



However, look at the RTP distribution, the FS part is very low. Usually, when a slot has a 2-scatter pay in the base game, e.g. DOA, it amounts to about 5% RTP.:



The average payout for organic FS triggers is 116.5x bet. The RTP for the feature buy is lower at 97.13%, so the average payout will be lower too. Not to forget, the RTP might be exceptionally high but the game is still very volatile as they rated it at 4/5.

The good part is that the collection is not bet sensitive as it will memorize the bet size for each collected marching stack. The FS feature is then played with the average value of all stacks.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Not bad

Please estimate the lottery numbers next thank you!

 

[Harry_BKK]

Not bad

Please estimate the lottery numbers next thank you!

Here some numbers that alleviate the shock for the long wait for an FS feature trigger and explain the high RTP

Big Win average frequency (15x bet or more): 1:81 spins
Mega Win average frequency (30x bet or more): 1:206 spins
Super Mega Win average frequency (60x bet or more): 1:709 spins

Those numbers are relatively low compared to other slots.

 

[Harry_BKK]

That they can share your data with MrVegas, which isn't an issue if you play there (and don't mind) but is if you have closed your account, and therefore haven't agreed to the new policy.
Videoslots live chat say Videoslots and MrVegas are the same company, but thats not true as Videoslots is Videoslots Ltd, MrVegas is MrVegas Ltd.

@Team.Videoslots why are live chat saying its the same company?
What are the circumstances you share data with each other, in the event a customer has a closed account, or is self excluded, therefore hasn't agreed to the new Privacy Policy?
I also asked a question about affiliate tags that you seem to have missed?

Because they are the same company or let's say sister companies. AFAIK, Mr Vegas has only a MGA licence.





From the Mr Vegas terms:

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Your estimate for the feature frequency is not that wrong.

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However, look at the RTP distribution, the FS part is very low. Usually, when a slot has a 2-scatter pay in the base game, e.g. DOA, it amounts to about 5% RTP.:

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The average payout for organic FS triggers is 116.5x bet. The RTP for the feature buy is lower at 97.13%, so the average payout will be lower too. Not to forget, the RTP might be exceptionally high but the game is still very volatile as they rated it at 4/5.

The good part is that the collection is not bet sensitive as it will memorize the bet size for each collected marching stack. The FS feature is then played with the average value of all stacks.

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3.79% of RTP allocated to free spins?

That's a crazy low number isn't it?

 

[Harry_BKK]

3.79% of RTP allocated to free spins?

That's a crazy low number isn't it?

Yes. But then, the game can pay well in the base game too.

For comparison, DOA has roughly 27% for the FS round.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Yes sorry I should have been clearer I'm not saying it's a bad thing

My conclusion in the video was that the way to play this is not to get fixated on the free spins and expect them to pay well when you finally get there, but to see them as a potential cherry on the cake for a base game that is very high RTP and has the potential to knock out some decent wins.

The fact that the game overall has a higher RTP than the feature buy says it all really IMO.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Yes sorry I should have been clearer I'm not saying it's a bad thing

My conclusion in the video was that the way to play this is not to get fixated on the free spins and expect them to pay well when you finally get there, but to see them as a potential cherry on the cake for a base game that is very high RTP and has the potential to knock out some decent wins.

The fact that the game overall has a higher RTP than the feature buy says it all really IMO.

You could say: It's not about the destination, it's the journey."

 

[pinnit2014]

You could say: It's not about the destination, it's the journey."

Yeah, tried using that line on my bank once when trying to get out of my overdraft.

They weren't having any of it.

 

[CasinoNinja]

I'm not great with maths, but if I have done a whole level on £5 stake (66 stacks I believe) and another say 15 stacks.

If I were to collect the rest on £0.10 bet, what would my average stake be for the bonus?