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Really nice to see high RTP games actually being made, like this one
Any casino/rep willing to step up and promote high RTP
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That's great. Should give some fair play time and still make money for the casinos.
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I had a decent hit last night on it and am chuffed to see games of this RTP coming out.
Mucho kudos to Relax Gaming!
Be warned though, this dead spins and dwains the bawance easiwy. I think a lot of RTP is weserved for the Centuwions.....
Mucho kudos to Relax Gaming!
Be warned though, this dead spins and dwains the bawance easiwy. I think a lot of RTP is weserved for the Centuwions.....
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I quite like their slots, but i think its a shame they have started including bonus buy in their latest releases.
Probably just in my head, but it feels like slots with the bonus buy function is much harder to bonus than they should be to push people into just buying the bonus.
After all, they make more money that way, and money seems to dictate most decisions made in the casino business.
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Dont know if it makes much difference either but i feel the same and stay away from them mostly.
Ones like Lil Devil or White Rabbit where it still contributes to one, i feel a little better about.
Hoping that DOA2 bonus buy edition doesnt surface. I probably wont play it so much.
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Thanks to those previous few posters who made me aware of Marching Legions! 
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Thanks to those previous few posters who made me aware of Marching Legions!
Glad i watched your video.
Been playing on and off for a couple of days and am on the way to getting my first feature. Seeing your vid make me withdrawal lol.
Im in profit and was going to try and burn a bit but ill think i will wait for them to come naturally rather than chase.
Decent slot in my short experience. Still capable of major dry spells though. Not sure if you had the same experience.
Had a couple of x200's over a few hit and runs.
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Yes it's definitely got some dead patches in it but it doesn't feel crazy high volatility to me. Currently got it lumping away in demo play on turbo spin, as per the video my early guess at a 'safe balance' to see out a feature is 500x stake, but the feature itself is so variable that it guarantees nothing whatsoever. (And literally nothing if you get a zero pay feature, which it can totally do!)
Currently trying to get a fix on the average number of spins to get a feature, and since you need 330 stacks to get a feature that should actually work out to a fairly consistent number.
I reckon about 3000 spins (!) per feature might end up being about right
Currently trying to get a fix on the average number of spins to get a feature, and since you need 330 stacks to get a feature that should actually work out to a fairly consistent number.
I reckon about 3000 spins (!) per feature might end up being about right
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I closed my video slots account months ago, easy to see the difference in the wins there over time...more I deposited, the less I won...great scene eh! no thanks but keep away from Play N Go, I have noticed lots of changes to the win opportunity at various casino's. Again, the idea of randome anything is a foolish notion when other configurable items are involved, I have noticed the low payouts and quite honestly its pretty damm boring. This industry will eat itself alive, greed always works that way...
Add in a few other fun things like player monitoring of safe gambling practices, nice to get a notification while you are in mid-spin on a game and it pops up to block what you are doing, after an hour.
When I did resign from a casino, they have set me as self-exclusion, which was not correct but buggered me on other casino's. I wrote @Rizk Casino to ask how it was that I had become self-excluded, no answer to that. It definitely didn't come from me. I stopped playing at a few casino's due to poor RTP..
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Ive only gone back recently to VS because i miss the battle access. Its easy for me now. I habitually stay away from PlaynGo and Red Tiger without any thought. I also leave my favourite provider, No Limit City, when playing at VS.
I hit Netent, BTG, Relax, Push and Microgaming. Plenty to choose from.
I also hit the new releases but like i said, if the PlaynGo or Red Tiger loading screen shows i shut it down before the reels have loaded.
I also resigned from a casino once asking them to remove my data and delete my account to which they replied 'you want to self exclude?' I had only recently started slotting but the grammar caught my attention and i said no. I want my data removed and my account closed. Still not sure if they did what i asked. Following up those things is so time consuming.
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They have to keep certain data for a period of time (6 years?) for legal/regulatory purposes but closing the a/c kick starts it, plus they shouldn't be processing any of it.
Yeah - had the same with one place: can you close....how you do you want to SE for? I don't want to SE, i want to close: Ok, we offer 6 months etc. OH, ffs, close, close close, no SE, close!
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Did everyone who's still playing there get notification that the privacy policy changed a few days ago?
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Yes, I did but only had a brief look. Did anything interesting catch your eye?
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Yes, I was going to ask you your thoughts, haha.
Also terms and conditions like yesterday.
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That they can share your data with MrVegas, which isn't an issue if you play there (and don't mind) but is if you have closed your account, and therefore haven't agreed to the new policy.
Videoslots live chat say Videoslots and MrVegas are the same company, but thats not true as Videoslots is Videoslots Ltd, MrVegas is MrVegas Ltd.
@Team.Videoslots why are live chat saying its the same company?
What are the circumstances you share data with each other, in the event a customer has a closed account, or is self excluded, therefore hasn't agreed to the new Privacy Policy?
I also asked a question about affiliate tags that you seem to have missed?
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Yes it's definitely got some dead patches in it but it doesn't feel crazy high volatility to me. Currently got it lumping away in demo play on turbo spin, as per the video my early guess at a 'safe balance' to see out a feature is 500x stake, but the feature itself is so variable that it guarantees nothing whatsoever. (And literally nothing if you get a zero pay feature, which it can totally do!)
Currently trying to get a fix on the average number of spins to get a feature, and since you need 330 stacks to get a feature that should actually work out to a fairly consistent number.
I reckon about 3000 spins (!) per feature might end up being about right
Your estimate for the feature frequency is not that wrong.
However, look at the RTP distribution, the FS part is very low. Usually, when a slot has a 2-scatter pay in the base game, e.g. DOA, it amounts to about 5% RTP.:
The average payout for organic FS triggers is 116.5x bet. The RTP for the feature buy is lower at 97.13%, so the average payout will be lower too. Not to forget, the RTP might be exceptionally high but the game is still very volatile as they rated it at 4/5.
The good part is that the collection is not bet sensitive as it will memorize the bet size for each collected marching stack. The FS feature is then played with the average value of all stacks.
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Not bad
Please estimate the lottery numbers next thank you!
Please estimate the lottery numbers next thank you!
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Not bad
Please estimate the lottery numbers next thank you!
Here some numbers that alleviate the shock for the long wait for an FS feature trigger and explain the high RTP
Big Win average frequency (15x bet or more): 1:81 spins
Mega Win average frequency (30x bet or more): 1:206 spins
Super Mega Win average frequency (60x bet or more): 1:709 spins
Those numbers are relatively low compared to other slots.
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Because they are the same company or let's say sister companies. AFAIK, Mr Vegas has only a MGA licence.
From the Mr Vegas terms:
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Your estimate for the feature frequency is not that wrong.
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However, look at the RTP distribution, the FS part is very low. Usually, when a slot has a 2-scatter pay in the base game, e.g. DOA, it amounts to about 5% RTP.:
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The average payout for organic FS triggers is 116.5x bet. The RTP for the feature buy is lower at 97.13%, so the average payout will be lower too. Not to forget, the RTP might be exceptionally high but the game is still very volatile as they rated it at 4/5.
The good part is that the collection is not bet sensitive as it will memorize the bet size for each collected marching stack. The FS feature is then played with the average value of all stacks.
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3.79% of RTP allocated to free spins?
That's a crazy low number isn't it?
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Yes. But then, the game can pay well in the base game too.
For comparison, DOA has roughly 27% for the FS round.
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Yes sorry I should have been clearer I'm not saying it's a bad thing
My conclusion in the video was that the way to play this is not to get fixated on the free spins and expect them to pay well when you finally get there, but to see them as a potential cherry on the cake for a base game that is very high RTP and has the potential to knock out some decent wins.
The fact that the game overall has a higher RTP than the feature buy says it all really IMO.
My conclusion in the video was that the way to play this is not to get fixated on the free spins and expect them to pay well when you finally get there, but to see them as a potential cherry on the cake for a base game that is very high RTP and has the potential to knock out some decent wins.
The fact that the game overall has a higher RTP than the feature buy says it all really IMO.
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Yes sorry I should have been clearer I'm not saying it's a bad thing
My conclusion in the video was that the way to play this is not to get fixated on the free spins and expect them to pay well when you finally get there, but to see them as a potential cherry on the cake for a base game that is very high RTP and has the potential to knock out some decent wins.
The fact that the game overall has a higher RTP than the feature buy says it all really IMO.
You could say: It's not about the destination, it's the journey."
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You could say: It's not about the destination, it's the journey."
Yeah, tried using that line on my bank once when trying to get out of my overdraft.
They weren't having any of it.
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I'm not great with maths, but if I have done a whole level on £5 stake (66 stacks I believe) and another say 15 stacks.
If I were to collect the rest on £0.10 bet, what would my average stake be for the bonus?
If I were to collect the rest on £0.10 bet, what would my average stake be for the bonus?
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Well, I grinded my way to complete this, at one point the game broke a little bit and stacks didn't collect, I thought it was a visual glitch so I kept on playing, but since I only had like 10 left to complete level 5 and I had collected more than that I got worried.
Luckiely, I continued on mobile and it worked again.
Not so lucky, was that I only got paid £41 on a average stake of 0.60.. oh well
Luckiely, I continued on mobile and it worked again.
Not so lucky, was that I only got paid £41 on a average stake of 0.60.. oh well
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Editing my post so I dont get in trouble
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If I play on direx NV, I go there for thunderkick, MG, endorphina and no limit mostly. I wont touch the playngo there, no idea what they are running but seems about 12% rtp lol.
L&L I mostly stick to MG, netent and amatic..I will dabble a bit in playngo but not very much I dont really like the 94%. 96% playngo is brutal let alone anything less.
L&L I mostly stick to MG, netent and amatic..I will dabble a bit in playngo but not very much I dont really like the 94%. 96% playngo is brutal let alone anything less.
Stay away from these greedy casinos guys.
the more ppl are doing this the more they maybe rethink their strategy.
i closed my acc at Videolsots and other sites like rikz...months ago.
i don’t want to spend more money in a Casino that lower the rtp or hide behind eyecandy great jackpot wheels!
all of that is just fooling the customer, earn more and more money and safe more and more money by not providing fair Goodwills on netlosses.
the more ppl are doing this the more they maybe rethink their strategy.
i closed my acc at Videolsots and other sites like rikz...months ago.
i don’t want to spend more money in a Casino that lower the rtp or hide behind eyecandy great jackpot wheels!
all of that is just fooling the customer, earn more and more money and safe more and more money by not providing fair Goodwills on netlosses.
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Thats the attitude to have.
The power and ultimate influence is nearly always with the majority/public or end user's.
Its banding together for the common good that is the hard thing to achieve.
Just cannot play Pragmatic or Red Tiger with those daily drops also taking all the fun (rtp) out of slotting. Wouldnt mind if it was an extra but were paying for the amazing 'giveaways'.
@andym what casinos do you play at that have max RTP?
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Thanks
I dont know what its like for the German market but i keep a list of max casinos for UK.
I imagine the ones max for UK are a good shout for you maybe....
What casinos have the best payouts UK?
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Had a proper shitter on Marching Legions last night. I'm not averse to occasionally firing this game up and grinding out a bonus, for those not familiar with the game this is the slot where it takes around three hours (~3000 spins) on turbo play to get a bonus (there's a link to my video about it on the previous page of this thread).
Generally speaking I'll start with £100 on 20p spins, to give myself 500x stake to get the feature, and I'm very well aware that there's no guarantee the feature will pay much at the end of it. However, this approach has never gone wrong before and I've always managed to get a feature, and sometimes made a few quid by the end of it.
Anyway, on this occasion it wanted 779x stake to trigger the feature, so it actually bust out my £106 starting balance and I had to redeposit to finish off getting the bonus.
At the end of it all the feature paid 42x stake.
As you can see my Bandicam recording of the play is over three hours long, and this was non-stop turbo play apart from a couple of minutes where I had to redeposit. I had it set to a 100x stake stop trigger which it didn't hit once.
And here is the final feature win.
Not overly impressed!
Generally speaking I'll start with £100 on 20p spins, to give myself 500x stake to get the feature, and I'm very well aware that there's no guarantee the feature will pay much at the end of it. However, this approach has never gone wrong before and I've always managed to get a feature, and sometimes made a few quid by the end of it.
Anyway, on this occasion it wanted 779x stake to trigger the feature, so it actually bust out my £106 starting balance and I had to redeposit to finish off getting the bonus.
At the end of it all the feature paid 42x stake.
As you can see my Bandicam recording of the play is over three hours long, and this was non-stop turbo play apart from a couple of minutes where I had to redeposit. I had it set to a 100x stake stop trigger which it didn't hit once.
And here is the final feature win.
Not overly impressed!
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I realised i played a 91.40% PLAYNGO provider yesterday and some people say you cannot notice, seemed difficult the games, to put it at 91.40 its to low there's room for more its not right
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Of all the providers you really need to check the help files for before committing any funds, Play 'N Go are absolutely at the top of the list due to all the maths models they offer, 91% isn't even the lowest, they offer an 88/89% maths model too, which is pure robbery.
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In fact it's worse than that, here are all the RTPs they run one of their slots at - think it's Book Of Dead.
87% and 84% are offered!
87% and 84% are offered!
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Tried that marching legions last month. Took about 3.5 hours, spinning on 10p. Was £60 down at the point of when the feature dropped, which luckily thanks to the final spin returned about £12.
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I don't know why I keep punishing myself with Marching Legions, after a decent run on Pragmatic Play slots I decided to grind out another bonus on it whilst we were all playing family WoW, since you literally just throw the fucker on autoplay for at least three hours on infinite spins autoplay with a 100x stop trigger and there's a good chance it'll get to the bonus round without hitting the stop trigger.
And so it was for this attempt. My starting point was £355, on 20p spins on continuous turbo autoplay it took just about exactly three hours and £95 of that balance to trigger a bonus that paid 39x stake, and it didn't hit the 100x stake stop trigger (although it came close a couple of times).
(i.e. A feature that cost 475x stake paid 39x stake.)
I've never actually won anything of note on this slot, best case scenario seems to be getting to the bonus round about even or a little bit up, and then the feature itself is almost invariably a crusty old wank sock.
Not quite sure where the 98% RTP on this thing is supposed to come from.
Start balance:
Feature triggered three hours later with this balance:
Feature paid..... (And of that £7.80, £5.40 of it I actually went into the feature with from the wins in the base game.)
And so it was for this attempt. My starting point was £355, on 20p spins on continuous turbo autoplay it took just about exactly three hours and £95 of that balance to trigger a bonus that paid 39x stake, and it didn't hit the 100x stake stop trigger (although it came close a couple of times).
(i.e. A feature that cost 475x stake paid 39x stake.)
I've never actually won anything of note on this slot, best case scenario seems to be getting to the bonus round about even or a little bit up, and then the feature itself is almost invariably a crusty old wank sock.
Not quite sure where the 98% RTP on this thing is supposed to come from.
Start balance:
Feature triggered three hours later with this balance:
Feature paid..... (And of that £7.80, £5.40 of it I actually went into the feature with from the wins in the base game.)
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Doing exactly that is always terrible results.
Spin. Stop spin. Quick spin. Normal speed.
Play with those 4 and quit after 100 spins.
Or not
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This kicked me in the bollocks again last night, I really am a mug when it comes to this game.
Just short of three hours to get the bonus round and was 500x stake down, bonus round paid 70x, so overall result was 430x down.
TBH it was looking like it was going to be worse than that as it got off to a really horrible start but it stabilised a bit during the final third of the grind.
Doubtless I'll have another go on it before too long because I'm stupid.
Just short of three hours to get the bonus round and was 500x stake down, bonus round paid 70x, so overall result was 430x down.
TBH it was looking like it was going to be worse than that as it got off to a really horrible start but it stabilised a bit during the final third of the grind.
Doubtless I'll have another go on it before too long because I'm stupid.
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Einsteins theory of madness springs to mind mate. As much as the RTP is a draw its still a slot, but you know that
Was this all at one stake?
Was this all at one stake?
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In fact let's look at the numbers, although I should note I'm in no way complaining about my luck recently, as I've still got a balance of over £1000 from a £60 deposit!
So this is where Marching Legions started, as you can see my balance is £1190 and the time is 18:19, and I am playing on my usual stake for this game which is 20p.
And it got off to a truly rancid start, just one hour later my balance is down at £1069 so I'm 605x stake down and am still plodding through Level 3 on the way to the bonus. It was playing so horribly I checked the help file to see if the RTP had been nerfed or something!
It stabilised a bit but then headed south again, down at £1043 at the 2h16m mark, so 735x down, grinding out a feature that is entirely capable of doing a zero pay!
However the next 40 minutes it did roll better and recovered to this balance when I triggered the feature after 2h54m.
The feature didn't get past Level 2 and paid 61.5x stake.
So after three hours and one bonus round I was 435x stake down.
Amazing game, would highly recommend this thrilling rollercoaster of emotions to anyone.
So this is where Marching Legions started, as you can see my balance is £1190 and the time is 18:19, and I am playing on my usual stake for this game which is 20p.
And it got off to a truly rancid start, just one hour later my balance is down at £1069 so I'm 605x stake down and am still plodding through Level 3 on the way to the bonus. It was playing so horribly I checked the help file to see if the RTP had been nerfed or something!
It stabilised a bit but then headed south again, down at £1043 at the 2h16m mark, so 735x down, grinding out a feature that is entirely capable of doing a zero pay!
However the next 40 minutes it did roll better and recovered to this balance when I triggered the feature after 2h54m.
The feature didn't get past Level 2 and paid 61.5x stake.
So after three hours and one bonus round I was 435x stake down.
Amazing game, would highly recommend this thrilling rollercoaster of emotions to anyone.
@ChopleyIOM Long time lurker but never posted before , sorry if its irrelevant , don't want to create a new thread just for this.
So the story is after seeing your post about gonzo's 98% rtp on unibet , wanted to try it myself and deposited €100 to get the maximum bonus of €200 , after depositing i noticed that gonzo's is not available for me here in Ireland . So went to roulette and played thinking its my real money i can do whatever i want , it was friday night yesterday if you know what I mean lol.
The balance went upto 450 and then down to €311 , my bets were around 50 euros a spin on real money ( thts what I thought ) ...
So now this morning woke up and noticed that all the €311 euros are in bonus balance , read the terms now there is no mention of max bet anyway but just want to confirm whether I broke the terms already .
If I broke it already , i would just not bother playing the balance and write it off , want to save myself from heart attack just incase if I win something massive hehe.
Thanks in advance
So the story is after seeing your post about gonzo's 98% rtp on unibet , wanted to try it myself and deposited €100 to get the maximum bonus of €200 , after depositing i noticed that gonzo's is not available for me here in Ireland . So went to roulette and played thinking its my real money i can do whatever i want , it was friday night yesterday if you know what I mean lol.
The balance went upto 450 and then down to €311 , my bets were around 50 euros a spin on real money ( thts what I thought ) ...
So now this morning woke up and noticed that all the €311 euros are in bonus balance , read the terms now there is no mention of max bet anyway but just want to confirm whether I broke the terms already .
If I broke it already , i would just not bother playing the balance and write it off , want to save myself from heart attack just incase if I win something massive hehe.
Thanks in advance
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You'll only get the 98% slots selection if you're playing at Unibet.com, the .co.uk site doesn't carry them - hopefully that was clear from the video!
I was able to close my account at .co.uk and open a .com account, which site are you playing at?
As for the bonus terms I didn't take a bonus when I signed up at the .com site so didn't have any cause to avail myself of them!
I was able to close my account at .co.uk and open a .com account, which site are you playing at?
As for the bonus terms I didn't take a bonus when I signed up at the .com site so didn't have any cause to avail myself of them!
I think I am ok as there is no max bet on bonus money and I signed up at unibet.ie . I did some research and all good mate it looks like if i cancel the bonus the money( €111) would show up on my real money balance so i haven't touched the bonus yet anyway
Will try my luck tonight on someother slots , 200% bonus with 35× wagering is still good to me , cheers
Will try my luck tonight on someother slots , 200% bonus with 35× wagering is still good to me , cheers
