and yet more Skrill changes

[dionysus]

so, WDs about a month or 2 ago, were always in, in 24-48 hours
now it takes over a week

today, WDed, and see the fees went up
what was 2.50 is now 4.5


sigh
i need a new e-wallet
Skrill is so damn inconsistent

 

[Cleveland]

I've never used it so forgive my ignorance but when you say WDs take a week or you talking about the time it takes to hit your Skrill account from the casino or the time it takes after the casino has already paid and you're trying to get it out of the Skrill account? Guess I'm not understanding why it would take that long after it hits your account to be able to get it. Either way seems like a long time to get your money. Hell my checks from 3dice come in quicker than that.

 

[dionysus]

lol, no from casino to skrill is instant - well, instant from when the casino sends it that is

from skrill to my bank acct, about a week now
seems I'm always phoning them, chasing them up
theyll swear they sent it, bank will swear they havent received it
push comes to shove demanding tracking numbers and skrill will be 'ooooh, we meant it JUST went out today'

it used to be, it came to my bank the following day, now it seems, well, whenever they get around to it....2 days, 12 days, w/e

then about every month, there's new terms...fees are less...yay...then, fees are more....booo
i swear they have a wheel with a spinner with spaces like 'WDs in a day', 'WDs in 2 week', 'let's rewrite the terms'

 

[Cleveland]

K, I get it now .

I can't stand paying fees on my money unless it's very very small. ATM fees about make me sick . Some are close to $ 4.00. and I know it doesn't cost anywhere near that to process my transaction. Sorry not to get side tracked. Just saying...me hate fees.

 

[Janek12]

i swear they have a wheel with a spinner with spaces like 'WDs in a day', 'WDs in 2 week', 'let's rewrite the terms'

Perhaps it may have something to do with the availability of funds on their Canadian account.

Approximately 5-6 years ago, it took Moneybookers 3 weeks to transfer money to my bank account. I also chased it but to no avail; and just when I thought it was hopeless, the money arrived.

Then I started using it some time after that and the service improved and during the last year, it always arrived in the bank account the next business day.

My conjecture was that the service improved as a result of more Czechs having accounts at Moneybookers and, consequently, Moneybookers having more funds in their account in a Czech bank from which they make the withdrawal transfers.
So perhaps it was a one-time thing because of some miscalculation on their behalf...

 

[Jasminebed]

I rarely had a wire transfer from Skrill take less than 3 business days to post to my bank account. The longest has been 5 business days.

The jump to $4.50 is substantial.

It's the $14 incoming foreign wire fee that kills me. (my bank's end).

Did you notice if there was a change to the cheque fee? It was just a little more than $5 recently.

 

[dionysus]

I rarely had a wire transfer from Skrill take less than 3 business days to post to my bank account. The longest has been 5 business days.

The jump to $4.50 is substantial.

It's the $14 incoming foreign wire fee that kills me. (my bank's end).

Did you notice if there was a change to the cheque fee? It was just a little more than $5 recently.

Not sure. Skrill to my bank has always been 10 bucks wire transfer fee, and the 2.5 from Skrill. I'll see when funds arrive. I assume the 4.50/10. I don't think I've used a cheque in 20 years lol

 

[dunover]

Not sure. Skrill to my bank has always been 10 bucks wire transfer fee, and the 2.5 from Skrill. I'll see when funds arrive. I assume the 4.50/10. I don't think I've used a cheque in 20 years lol

If it wasn't so annoying I'd laugh and say "Congratulations! You've managed to find a webwallet with a pending period".

Seriously, I liked them when they were plain old Moneybookers, but they aren't a touch on Neteller.

 

[Andy Walker]

so, WDs about a month or 2 ago, were always in, in 24-48 hours
now it takes over a week

today, WDed, and see the fees went up
what was 2.50 is now 4.5


sigh
i need a new e-wallet
Skrill is so damn inconsistent

I have no comment on skrill not used it, but that picture of the dog and kitten is so great, is that your own or obtained from the “net”?

Made me smile nevertheless and thanks.

 

[dionysus]

I have no comment on skrill not used it, but that picture of the dog and kitten is so great, is that your own or obtained from the “net”?

Made me smile nevertheless and thanks.

lol, they're mine, just snapped a candid this afternoon - he's learned to scale the couch to climb on the dog he's only just been allowed out of the cell to explore

 

[Tirilej]

I just wonder why you want to transfer it to your bank at all?
Doesn't Skrill also have a Master Card that you can use?
I have mine from Neteller and I haven't made a transfer in two years to my bank. I use my card for everything. In rare occasions I need to use an ATM but I avoid that since it cost me $6 every time + currency fees.

 

[dionysus]

I just wonder why you want to transfer it to your bank at all?
Doesn't Skrill also have a Master Card that you can use?
I have mine from Neteller and I haven't made a transfer in two years to my bank. I use my card for everything. In rare occasions I need to use an ATM but I avoid that since it cost me $6 every time + currency fees.

well, I don't own credit cards, and i never upload to skrill
i always dep with prepaids,and move money back and forth from skrill for casinos (no fees) until at some point there's a wothwhile win i want. In my bank is good cuz either the bf or i can grab it for shopping, pay bills online etc

 

[Tirilej]

well, I don't own credit cards, and i never upload to skrill
i always dep with prepaids,and move money back and forth from skrill for casinos (no fees) until at some point there's a wothwhile win i want. In my bank is good cuz either the bf or i can grab it for shopping, pay bills online etc

You can use that card just the same way you use your bankaccount, both of you, and it doesn't cost anything either.
Take a look at it. You maybe don't have anything to lose
If it's the same kind as Neteller has...

 

[johnsteed]

Over the past several months, RBC in particular, has been closing down bank accounts that are receiving wired funds via Skrill. I received a letter from them a few weeks ago, warning me about using my account for any gambling related activity, so I've opened up a new account with a different bank. Word of mouth is that the best options going forward for Canadians would be to use BMO, CIBC, or Credit Union. Scotia Bank and TD are perceived as being the next two to follow the route that RBC is taking.


For the record, I haven't been putting/using any of my funds from my RBC account towards gambling (specifically poker now), I've only been wiring money from PokerStars -> Skrill -> RBC. I originally suspected it raised some flags because the money wired was in USD, but even those wiring the funds in CND still have had the same problems.

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[lotusch]

I have the Mastercard from Skrill as well.
So I never upload funds to my bank.
If money on the card,mostly from casino withdrawals or stuff I sell online I can go to an ATM to withdraw up to €500 cash a day and up to €3000 in PoS in shops so I have yet no issues with Skrill.
As long as my monies are there and I can use them as a third party payment processor I have no issues with them.

And the prepaid Mastercard is a great addon to their services.
I use it for nearly everything,up to paying for my groceries and petrol.

 

[Jasminebed]

It's only very recently (past three months maybe?) that there has been a credit card offered by Skrill to Canadians, which can be used for purchasing or withdrawing at ATMs.

But the big problem lies with the fact the card is in US dollars. So I guess pay to convert your CAD to US, then get dinged big time if you want to use those US dollars here at home, or heavens forbid, withdraw at a ATM machine. It is fast however. I looked over the info when I received a mail that a card was now available to Canadians, but I can't see it holding any attraction from me. Might work for those Canadians who have US dollar Skrill accounts they use however, or shop online from US sources.

If they offer it CAD soon, I would probably get one.

 

[johnsteed]

I made a recent inquiry, to find out if RBC would allow cheques from Skrill (as opposed to wired funds). The person that I had spoken to - RBC's Regulatory Support Team - felt that there "shouldn't" be a problem, since the cheque would be in CND, and that the funds wouldn't be hitting the U.S.; going directly from Skrill (U.K.) to my RBC account in Canada. Still, "it shouldn't" be a problem isn't "it won't" be a problem.


The person who I had talked to, was understanding and very helpful, and it didn't sound like he/she cared for their vague policies when it came to online gambling.

 

[randomiam]

shame

i just noticed it takes forever now it used to be very quick might move more over to my ecopayz account as i got the atm card i think its euro currency but it works in Australia im not fussed about being charged $6 all up when i take out 200 that includes the atm fee here might look into netella also now

 

[kazzi]

Mines changed to 3.98 from 2.5 nothing major but still sucks, but i like when i make a withdraw to my bank account its less than 24hours and the second i get a email confirmation withdraw been processed i got money in my bank instantly.

 

[Nate]

I know Canadians are not allowed to use Neteller, however; anyone else that can use the service doesn't necessarily need to pay $6 per ATM withdrawal.

I get 10 'Withdrawal Fee's' credited back to my Neteller account every month. They also offer 10 of your highest charges for Credit Card Uploads back each month.

In a nutshell I get 10 Free Withdrawals as well as 10 Free uploads a month. I have a US$ and a Eur account but from time to time I incur currency charges transferring money...

If anyone has the ability to use Neteller I suggest you do... I simply HATE Skrill.

Nate

 

[Tirilej]

I know Canadians are not allowed to use Neteller, however; anyone else that can use the service doesn't necessarily need to pay $6 per ATM withdrawal.

I get 10 'Withdrawal Fee's' credited back to my Neteller account every month. They also offer 10 of your highest charges for Credit Card Uploads back each month.

In a nutshell I get 10 Free Withdrawals as well as 10 Free uploads a month. I have a US$ and a Eur account but from time to time I incur currency charges transferring money...

If anyone has the ability to use Neteller I suggest you do... I simply HATE Skrill.

Nate

I have just managed to reach Bronze level of Vip staus at Neteller and there is a little difference in what you and I have to pay Nate. Nothing is credited back to my account and I do have to pay my fee to take my money out.
The last time I checked I would have to pay $20 for a wiretransfer so the convertingfees doesn't bother me when I use my card.

 

[Slotaholic]

When i withdraw from Skrill to my bank i always have my money the next bank day, and the fee is 14 sek, its about 2usd.

 

[Tirilej]

When i withdraw from Skrill to my bank i always have my money the next bank day, and the fee is 14 sek, its about 2usd.

Do you have your account in SEK? It sounds cheap with just 14sek otherwise.

 

[leonardo99]

When i withdraw from Skrill to my bank i always have my money the next bank day, and the fee is 14 sek, its about 2usd.

Same here..yesterday withdraw..few minutes ago money reached my bank account...Rare it's take more than 2 days..

 

[jjezebel37]

Very quick withdrawals for me (UK)

Request Friday morning and in my account 3 hours later.

Seems the fees have went up a few pence though....

 

[chayton]

My last few withdrawals from skrill were much faster than in the past too. Twice in the distant past they lost a withdrawal, once I waited for a month before they found it, the other time about 14 days. The last two times I withdrew it took less than 2 days. To be honest I didn't notice if the fees were more or not though.

 

[dionysus]

My last few withdrawals from skrill were much faster than in the past too. Twice in the distant past they lost a withdrawal, once I waited for a month before they found it, the other time about 14 days. The last two times I withdrew it took less than 2 days. To be honest I didn't notice if the fees were more or not though.

@chay...if you dont mind answering, what Cd bank are you using, because it's still taking a week for WDs from skrill to my bank. I put one though Monday, still hasn't hit today, which means I'll still be looking at next week
Thanks

 

[chayton]

@chay...if you dont mind answering, what Cd bank are you using, because it's still taking a week for WDs from skrill to my bank. I put one though Monday, still hasn't hit today, which means I'll still be looking at next week
Thanks

I'm with BMO

 

[sagera]

I use Bank of Montreal and as soon skrill posted it was processed it would be in my account exactly one hour later. The last two months something has changed. I was waiting for a withdrawal for 2 weeks and they sent me notice it was returned to my skrill account. They sent me notice that the problem has been fixed, but I doubt it.

I had changed banks because Scotia Bank told me a year ago already that if funds were from gambling they would return them to the source.

 

[sagera]

I have the skrill mastercard. To withdraw $300 from ATM $11 charge. To withdraw $500 from ATM $15 charge.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I use Bank of Montreal and as soon skrill posted it was processed it would be in my account exactly one hour later. The last two months something has changed. I was waiting for a withdrawal for 2 weeks and they sent me notice it was returned to my skrill account. They sent me notice that the problem has been fixed, but I doubt it.

I had changed banks because Scotia Bank told me a year ago already that if funds were from gambling they would return them to the source.

How come the banks are allowed to do this without specific laws or regulations being in place. Their job is surely to look after customers' money, not pass moral judgements on how they spend it.

In any case, they cannot know for certain that funds from Skrill are gambling related, it can be nothing more than "highly probable" that they are.

I can't see UK banks getting away with such BS, the Financial Ombudsman can intervene, and HAS intervened when banks have summarily closed accounts as a means to bully customers into not fighting for their rights. Several banks got into trouble for making threats to close accounts of customers who took complaints to the FSA over excessive charges and/or mis selling. Some pretty hefty fines have been levied on some banks to remind them of the need to behave fairly. They are also under fire for misusing the KYC procedures as a means to ditch low value customers, such as the elderly and those on benefits, and keep them from mainstream banking altogether.

I can't see how a lack of specific prohibitions in Canada allows the banks to get away with this. If anything, I would have expected Skrill to be the first to pull out of Canada if they feared they were breaking the law.

It's not up to the US to make laws for other countries, so the use of the US Dollar as an excuse doesn't wash. It's a freely traded "world" currency, used in many other countries besides the US, and held in considerable quantities as investments by both large funds and individuals as an investment.

 

[loren]

bmo and instadebit

Seems everybody now has fees...
Direct deposit from my bank account to say 32red,guts 365 costs 1$,if there was money
in my instadebit account already...free.
Withdrawal from Guts,say 550 costs on their end 3.48 into instadebit,but even with their
lightning speed(it's the banks you know)best was 18hour,same for 32red,they have no charge,
but same speed during the week,weekends everybody here knows that story.
Back to my own checking account instadebit charges 2$...and they say 2-5 days,but during
the week its like less than 24hours...
I have skrill but I guess I prefer not to use it.

 

[kazzi]

What made me sick today was withdraw 4160kr > skrill > bank > got 3890kr thats 270kr in looses just cause of currency conversion that just insane, guess i gotta skip skrill for larger 1k+ withdraws and go straight bank transfers its just slow

 

[refre]

What made me sick today was withdraw 4160kr > skrill > bank > got 3890kr thats 270kr in looses just cause of currency conversion that just insane, guess i gotta skip skrill for larger 1k+ withdraws and go straight bank transfers its just slow

It seems that instead of giving top VIPs free currency conversion, they have just upped the fees for everyone else.
The best you can hope for is a 1.75% exchange fee at the Diamond level.

If you don't hold a Skrill account in on of the big currencies (USD, GBP, EUR, CAD or PLN) you are looking at a 3.99% fee.
Plain greedy IMO, considering they also charge a big percentage from the merchant sending you funds.

It does give the multi currency casinos a big advantage though.
You can get away with paying very few fees, as long as you keep your casino, skrill and bank account, in the same currencies.

Freddy

 

[Unterfranke123]

The money conversions fees that Moneybookers lists on their website are from their "wholesale rate" and this is another 0.5 percent away from the real(mid price) rate, so you have to at at least half a percent on top of that. I very rarely use wire cashouts and always get the withdrawal fee refunded as a Silver VIP, I mostly withdraw by Card which is totally free for me/i have no other creditcards, only (Net-card(Neteller), Moneybookers-Card and Skrill-Card). I have also found ways to avoid currency converion fees completely (or at least almost completely), you have to be a little bit creative, but it´s possible, you can have different wallets in different currencies and there are certain places that convert money for free or for very little, at least if you are a good customer or don´t do it too often.

 

[Unterfranke123]

"In any case, they cannot know for certain that funds from Skrill are gambling related, it can be nothing more than "highly probable" that they are."

This is completely right, it just can be debt repayment, borrowed money from friends, all kind of business income, or just many that you "parked" there because you sould need have to spend it with your debit card, or which you need to withdraw sometimes in places where you cannot use my bank card(if I want to withdraw money I have to either travel to the next branch of my bank(which is war away and it has to be at business hours), or upload it to Neteller account for free and instantly and then I can withdraw it via Moneybookers-Mastercard for free at every ATM nearby, and the are weveral just 1 or 2 minutes walk away). Also it could be that you do not trust banks, because of the banking crisis and think(what is definetly true), that Moneybookers/Skrill are more stable than most banks in a big financial crises, because they do not give out huge amounts of risky loans.

 

[Unterfranke123]

By the way the interest rates are about zero and you money is ensured against abuse(certain conditions apply). Once my Moneybookers-Mastercard(less then a year ago) got abused and I got all my money back within a few days, without having any big trouble. When my debit card was abused and all my bank accounts(even all foreign money and saving accounts were connected with the card and my spending limits were huge) were emptied, I took me many month, to get only 10000 back, more was not insured. I had absoluely huge problems because of this. I keep my money more savely at many different internet accounts now and never use a debit card that is card that is connected to an account with a huge amount of money on it or chose quite low spending limits.