WARNING Affiliates Who Target Problem Gamblers

BetBlocker

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Sadly, this was actually brought to my attention by a BetBlocker user who requested one of these pages be added to our excluded list. Having worked in the gambling industry for a long time you end up developing a pretty thick skin for some of the questionable practices going on, but this genuinely made me really angry. Hopefully other webmasters will follow suit and post their own pages with Responsible Gambling information talking about 'non-gamstop casinos'. If enough other sites rank for that search term and are specifically avoiding advertising on those pages it should make this practice not worthwhile for those that would prey on vulnerable players by trying to drive traffic to rogue operators.

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Casinomeister

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There are more sites btw:

casinos-not-blocked.PNG

mobilecasinokings.com is directly connected to choicecasinos.com. And then there is pokerplayernewspaper.com
 

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Yes! See screenshot. Under the Software Menu and it is still there now. View attachment 112739
Do you know why it's hidden under the software menu? So it's not that obvious. But it's obvious enough for the search engines to rank that page. That is a almost perfectly cloaked page right there, with pure intention to rank on those target keywords.

The whole affilliate account(s) of that website owner should be removed, any funds taken and not paid out. He's a crook.
 

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If you ever find yourself in need of real cash casinos not blocked by Gamestop, we have some great options here. These three operators can meet the needs of all players in terms of game offer, bonus opportunities, and customer care. Whichever you choose, you won’t make a mistake.
Man thats harsh. People signed themself up for a reason.
 

L&L-Jan

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FML - ok nice one, thanks @colinsunderland

So tomorrow all affiliates will receive a newsletter, where the content is related to this subject. The options are: Either remove the content or remove our brands, if the latter has been picked, we will also close the affiliate account.

We would say the same for regular affiliates who are still promoting these kind of brands.

Kr.
 

Nicola

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That Casinomir site is really pushing it by listing UKGC sites and highlighting the fact they are not on GAMSTOP.

So glad I left the affiliate industry. Last few months the desperation of some affiliate managers pushing 70% commission to list non-licensed sites to UK markets.
 

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There are more sites btw:

View attachment 112740

mobilecasinokings.com is directly connected to choicecasinos.com. And then there is pokerplayernewspaper.com
Time this was sent over to Mr Twatski. This is f*cking outrageous.

EVERY ACCREDITED CASINO ON HERE SHOULD TERMINATE THEIR ACCOUNTS WITH ANY OF THE AFFILIATE SITES SEEN TO DO THIS!!!!
:mad:

Are this filthbags really the kind of affiliates you guys want to be in bed with and pay commission to?
 

L&L-Jan

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FML - ok nice one, thanks @colinsunderland

So tomorrow all affiliates will receive a newsletter, where the content is related to this subject. The options are: Either remove the content or remove our brands, if the latter has been picked, we will also close the affiliate account.

We would say the same for regular affiliates who are still promoting these kind of brands.

Kr.
just thinking a bit more about it, this topic is on casinomeisters forum ... so this topic needs to removed after our email, otherwise all CM accounts will be closed...
 

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Did anyone manage to find the page through the regular URL?

Anyway, we are asking him to remove the page and if he is not keen to do so he can remove us.

We already had issues with the UKGC about an affiliate with similar tactics, that caused us a lot of stress and shit. So basically zero tolerance when it comes down to L&L.
Sorry Jan - with respect that simply isn't good enough. You need to do what KateCherry and 32Red have and summarily terminate their accounts with any L&L properties, because an "IF you do or don't do etc.." response implies a choice for the affiliate and some degree of tolerance from yourselves, despite your protestations otherwise.

This kind of shit gives all affiliates a bad name. If these wankers are willing to get 50% + RS for not only listing the worst shithole casinos imaginable, but also targeting the very people who will provide these shitholes with the most revenue, i.e. problem gamblers, then I'd say that's terminal. These people are facilitating misery, they're greedy, unethical and feeding organized crime. They've stuck their heads up above the parapet by doing this so EVERY ethical casino should blow them off. Simple.

If you are willing to give them a chance after this very loud statement they've made as to what kind of people they are, then I'm sorry, I think that's a big mistake. If these twats woke up tomorrow with an inbox full of account termination e-mails from the reputable programmes, then the problem would stop very quickly and they could then stick with the rogue programmes only who will ultimately shaft them.
 

L&L-Jan

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That was an initial reply after the post... If you are signed up as an affiliate, you get a proper information tomorrow that will satisfy your above statements.

If there is somebody who aims to "do good" it is us, trust me! Because I fully agree with your statements.
 

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just thinking a bit more about it, this topic is on casinomeisters forum ... so this topic needs to removed after our email, otherwise all CM accounts will be closed...
Could you explain what you exactly mean Jan, because for a moment here I interpret your post as requesting THIS thread gets removed from public eye, otherwise L & L will close down CM accounts??

Tagging @Casinomeister so he sees this post.
 

L&L-Jan

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Could you explain what you exactly mean Jan, because for a moment here I interpret your post as requesting THIS thread gets removed from public eye, otherwise L & L will close down CM accounts??
That was a joke to be fair :)

There is: promoting - not done
There is: warning - full fine

Sorry to waste you time on a joke at this hour of the evening!
 

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If these twats woke up tomorrow with an inbox full of account termination e-mails from the reputable programmes, then the problem would stop very quickly and they could then stick with the rogue programmes only who will ultimately shaft them.
This is the only punishment these affiliates deserve, no warning, no tap on the fingers, straight abandoning of their accounts and any funds remaining not paid out. Just by looking at the response by doing it next thing in the morning is just how serious these people 'problem gambling' really take.

In the meantime, the links are getting indexed on search engines, the damage is proberly done already. I have not much of a belief of a problem gambling stop thing. They dont care where their affiliates come from, as long as they keep coming in and even better keep depositting!

And that is the problem with this industry. All say having the best interest in not wanting problem gamblers but as long as registration without any documents is still possible they give a rats ass.
 

aidanlcfc

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I'm going to write a blog post on this and gamstop tomorrow. Any affiliate managers that know me, and indeed affiliates, will know I've always played it straight and find things like this terrible, and hate people going to the dark side like this (when I saw the first photo it instantly reminded me of the hacking still a few years back). I'll write about GamStop and the virtues of it and highlight what some shaddy operators are up to purely to hope to push some of these down the ranks and actually help people
 

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