A question about Slots from a beginner...

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Hi, I do fully realise this question may seem daft, but as a newbie to playing slots i had to ask/clarify...

Is there any skill involved in playing slots??

You see, i am more of a roulette, blackjack and baccarat player, where there are certain tactics & strategies you can apply in your quest to win.

But with slots, are there any strategies in winning on them or is it simply put X amount of money in your account, then just spin, spin, spin?? (and hope for a win)

If this is the case, i still don't mind playing on them, it would just make things a lot clearer for me on playing on slots.

Also, what should i look for in a slot?? (i.e. RTP etc.)

Thanks for reading.
 
You see, i am more of a roulette... player, where there are certain tactics & strategies you can apply in your quest to win.
What tactics and strategies might they be?


One strategy for slots is to double up if you can. This increases the return of the game. The more you double the higher the return.
 
IMO, each slots game is different, 1st thing is 1st.
understanding the variance of slots you are playing.

Also, some slots are AWP, better not mixed up with normal slots games.
 
You should look at the paytables before playing. Some games you must be playing max lines and/or max bets to win the jackpot or trigger a feature.

Games with stacked or expanding wilds, very high multipliers or large amounts of freespins tend to be much higher variance (few small/med hits, a very few very large ones), so govern your bankroll accordingly.

Play at trustworthy casinos. It's enough to gamble with your bankroll, you don't need to gamble on getting paid as well. CM has an accredited list, they all meet certain standards.

All casinos offer a free play mode. It's a good way to test the waters on unfamiliar games and find ones you enjoy before spending your hard earned cash in real. You may just find the music appealing, the colour scheme or the bonus round especially fun (I particularly like multiple pick features myself, and slots that have some kind of random bonus so you have hope until that last reel).

If you take bonuses, read and understand all of the Terms and Conditions. If you are unsure, contact support either by live chat or email (or if you prefer the telephone, ask them to immediately send you an email confirming what you've been told).

Most of all, have fun, accept that most sessions you won't come out ahead, and don't get too greedy! A decent hit can quickly disappear if you start betting too big for your bankroll. A good rule of thumb is probably around .5 - 1% of your bankroll per spin.
 
What tactics and strategies might they be?


One strategy for slots is to double up if you can. This increases the return of the game. The more you double the higher the return.

I never try to double when I win.

How about other people here, do you double if possible?
 
I never double when I win.

How about other people here, do you double if possible?

I always find that when a slot is paying well and I up my bet, it goes dead. Probably just my luck though.

Edit: Oops, didn't realize you meant the 'gamble' feature, I never use that.
 
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Hi, I do fully realise this question may seem daft, but as a newbie to playing slots i had to ask/clarify...
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Thanks for reading.

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I never try to double when I win.

How about other people here, do you double if possible?
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I do. I double up, but keep my auto spin parameters in place of 100 spins or $100 loss, so I don't go too crazy.

my largest wins have been when I "pressed" my bets after a nice bonus spin or other wise larger than normal spin win.

Diane
 
:) Awesome. I just managed to come back on after doing house tasks to look if there were any replies... and WOW! I'm impressed. Thanks Guys.

Playing slots, seems a lot clearer to me now. I appreciate the advice on the bankroll %, stuff like that is always really useful.

I think i will certainly play around on free play/practice mode to get a 'feel' for different slots and see which clicks right with me.

As for my roulette strategy Petro, it's nothing earth shattering, i just mix it up between playing the fibonacci system, D'Alembert system and sometimes (i emphasise sometimes) the martingale system. All this is done while playing with a sensible bankroll management. So i don't go 'chasing' the win and end up losing more (IMO a very bad habit i've seen some of my friends fall into.) Hope that is of some help.

And once again, Thanks everyone for helping me with my query.
 
Definitely no skill involved in general although I can think of a very few exceptions. However like Plasticnote says, make sure you understand the concept of variance as this can make a HUGE difference when it comes to getting a decent session. Bet too high on a high variance slot and you could be busted out in no time. Risk/reward :)

Also bear in mind that any slot with a progressive jackpot will generally have a lower expected "return to player" (RTP) on normal play, ie: without hitting the jackpot.

In general, most online slots on the big software platforms (Microgaming, Playtech, Wagerworks/IGT) are set between 92% and 97% although there are a few exceptions at either end.
 
One strategy for slots is to double up if you can. This increases the return of the game. The more you double the higher the return.
:confused: What do you mean?
I have always believed the double up to be a true 50/50 chance, therefore it will have zero effect on your RTP.

KK
 
Terminology

Also, some slots are AWP, better not mixed up with normal slots games.

Forgive my ignorance but what exactly is "AWP"? I googled this and came up with "Amusement with Prizes". Does this mean a slot with a bonus game? Also, on the same topic, I have seen the term "fruit machine" or "fruities". I have come to the conclusion that this is just a British term for a slot machine.

Can someone please educate me on these terms? Thanks! :)
 
Hi, I do fully realise this question may seem daft, but as a newbie to playing slots i had to ask/clarify...

Is there any skill involved in playing slots??

You see, i am more of a roulette, blackjack and baccarat player, where there are certain tactics & strategies you can apply in your quest to win.

But with slots, are there any strategies in winning on them or is it simply put X amount of money in your account, then just spin, spin, spin?? (and hope for a win)

If this is the case, i still don't mind playing on them, it would just make things a lot clearer for me on playing on slots.

Also, what should i look for in a slot?? (i.e. RTP etc.)

Thanks for reading.

Just ask nifty29 he should know
 
:confused: What do you mean?
I have always believed the double up to be a true 50/50 chance, therefore it will have zero effect on your RTP.

KK

I think we had this discussion in another thread. Doubling up only increases your RTP if you go in with the following mentality: "I'm going to wager $100 on the slot machines." So, for instance, let's say you bet $1 at a time, you big spender, you. You win $30, you gamble it on the double-up, you win $60, and you gamble that. You've now wagered $91 at a much better RTP than wagering $91 on the slots. But that lasted you, what, all of 45 seconds?

So it makes sense to say that doubling up does not increase your RTP if you go in with the following mentality: "I'm going to play the slots for an hour." In fact, it'll probably reduce your return for the session since you'd have significantly more variance in that hour and would probably deposit again to buy more entertainment.
 
Forgive my ignorance but what exactly is "AWP"? I googled this and came up with "Amusement with Prizes". Does this mean a slot with a bonus game? Also, on the same topic, I have seen the term "fruit machine" or "fruities". I have come to the conclusion that this is just a British term for a slot machine.

Can someone please educate me on these terms? Thanks! :)

AWP abbr for "Amusement with Prizes" is one type of "legally rigged slots". It is not true random. It is UK "fruit machine".
 
IMO there is only one really important skill or strategy for slots= we all know it (and like me many of us ignore it:))

KNOW WHEN TO CASHOUT !

THat aside its really down to which slots you enjoy and betting the right amount for your bankroll pending the slots variance. Kasino Kings and SImmo's sites will give you some info on these and payout times.

From a personal perspective I never double up- too damn hard to get a win in the first place LOL- also be aware that if using a bonus double ups do not count towards wagering requirements in most places.
 
Definitely no skill involved in general although I can think of a very few exceptions. However like Plasticnote says, make sure you understand the concept of variance as this can make a HUGE difference when it comes to getting a decent session. Bet too high on a high variance slot and you could be busted out in no time. Risk/reward :)

Also bear in mind that any slot with a progressive jackpot will generally have a lower expected "return to player" (RTP) on normal play, ie: without hitting the jackpot.

In general, most online slots on the big software platforms (Microgaming, Playtech, Wagerworks/IGT) are set between 92% and 97% although there are a few exceptions at either end.

Simmo, please elaborate on the exceptions that you thought up...

The first one's I can think of are skill based bonus rounds i.e. many of the islots on Rival powered sites, for example, Hole In Won; there are a couple holes in the mini golf bonus feature that one must know the break on.

Then of course you have the AWP slots like Treasure Island AWP, but that skill is quite different than the first example. As the MG press release says, "an Irish adventure in the great fruit machine tradition". And just like the fruities, there is a progressive pattern that once memorized, can be recognized so that when the machine is dead, the players recognizes such after so many spins and gets up. And when the machine is in a sequence leading to the big win, the player sticks it out and gets the jackpot. Of course, players with no knowledge may win and may lose, but they are at a distinct disadvantage from the "skill' players in any AWP slot.

Any other exceptions?
 
Fruit machine is a UK term for slot machine, yes you're right. It heralds back to teh days of the old 3-reelers where the symbols were predominantly fruit. The AWP machines provide some examples of these.

Simmo, please elaborate on the exceptions that you thought up...

The first one's I can think of are skill based bonus rounds i.e. many of the islots on Rival powered sites, for example, Hole In Won; there are a couple holes in the mini golf bonus feature that one must know the break on.

Then of course you have the AWP slots like Treasure Island AWP, but that skill is quite different than the first example. As the MG press release says, "an Irish adventure in the great fruit machine tradition". And just like the fruities, there is a progressive pattern that once memorized, can be recognized so that when the machine is dead, the players recognizes such after so many spins and gets up. And when the machine is in a sequence leading to the big win, the player sticks it out and gets the jackpot. Of course, players with no knowledge may win and may lose, but they are at a distinct disadvantage from the "skill' players in any AWP slot.

Any other exceptions?

AWP is one for sure - thetre are certain "cheats" which you should know to make the most of them. The most common one being when you get "nudges", don't get a win but then the hold lights flash. If you nudged in 2 of the same symbol, don't press HOLD and the it will often spin in 3 of those symbols.

Additionally, there are a handful of online slots (Dolphin Tale on MG, Hulk Ultimate Revenge on Crypto and Queen Of The Nile 2 from Aristocrat spring to mind) where you pick the number of free spins/multiplier you want. If you multiply the no of spins by the multiplier they add up differently to create a bigger chance of winning IMO.

For example on QOTN 2, you can pick 5 at 10x, 10 at 5x, 15 at 3x, 20 at 2x. The 5 at 10x and 10 at 5x are better options (5 x 10 = 50) than say the 15 at 3x (15 x 3 = 45) but at the same time they increase the variance.

On Doubling Up, I would never do that unless the slot stated the chances were 50/50 which most (all?) don't.
 

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