3Dice.com - first time deposit bonus wagering requirements are insane!

[frazze2]

bonuses are designed for this , they wipe you clean. small amount of people beat it and come out on top.
i personally ban myself from bonuses . dont trust them.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Upping your bet at 3Dice is not tha same as upping it at the average casino. Their slots are VERY high variance, and a bet of 2 credits is "big". Bets up to 2 credits are enough for a significant win which would guarantee (almost) the making of WR on the SUB.

I also doubt many 3Dice players are "better at math than the casino manager"

 

[LaHutti]

In my opinion 3Dice, and 32Red are (again) doing it right.
We see a lot of casinos lure people in with huge "welcome bonuses", that they in most cases still bust on, and then forget about actual loyalty.
This is the main reason, why these places are subject to bonus hunters, that will do the first deposit, hoping to survive the wr, just to dissapear, and never become actual customers at the casino.
3Dice and 32Red understand, that real loyalty is what they need, so their offers to real loyal customers are better than the "welcome bonus".
Can hardly say anything bad about that.....and I believe vwm is absolutely right, about the math thing ...

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Impressive customer service!

Credit where it's due!

In response to this thread, the 3Dice rep here at CM sent me a private message inviting me to create an account at 3Dice, take the SUB, drop him a message back and he would remove the WR for me.

As such I've created an account, made a deposit, and taken the SUB. Now just waiting to hear back from him, and then I'll give their slots a try.

Certainly an excellent first impression and really quite unexpected, hopefully it augurs well for the rest of my experience at 3Dice

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Enzo (the 3Dice rep here at CM) got back to me promptly and has removed the WR on my first deposit, which I have to say I'm very impressed with as a personal touch when it comes to customer service.

I still haven't actually played any games there yet, but was hoping to get going soon, so was wondering if anyone has any pointers on the slots?

As I understand it from their own stats page (linked in my OP), they only have medium-high variance slots.

Since my starting bankroll is just £150, and I'm intending to play at 50p (or thereabouts) per spin, I don't want to jump straight onto a high variance slot and get wiped out.

What are a good couple of bets for the more medium variance slots?

Also, anyone know why they don't have any low variance slots?

 

[zap987]

This thread might explain why they don't have really low variance slots, https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/high-variance-understanding-it-loving-it.20229/

I do think it's a bit relative though, no slots are marked as low variance because all slots are higher variance than most other non-slot games, some of the medium variance slots don't really seem that high in variance compared to other slots. Industria is marked as low variance if only playing colours though.

Of the slots marked medium variance I'd suggest Fortune Falls and Payola.

 

[Mojack]

There is usually a free tournament running at 3Dice, maybe join the free tournament and play on a number of different slots and see which ones you like before wagering your bankroll?

 

[nisosbar]

If you look at the Zeitgeist (stats page), you'll see that some of the slots are hot, but most are not, at any one time.

I have found it's all just a matter of trial and error. For example, the other day, StickShifter (my personal favorite) was showing as cold blue as ice on the stats page; yet, I kept triggering free spin rounds. It didn't pay out all that much, but I did have a couple nice moments, despite what the stat page was showing. So in other words, your payouts aren't necessarily going to match anyone else's.

I'm not sure exactly why there aren't any low variance slots.

 

[vinylweatherman]

If you look at the Zeitgeist (stats page), you'll see that some of the slots are hot, but most are not, at any one time.

I have found it's all just a matter of trial and error. For example, the other day, StickShifter (my personal favorite) was showing as cold blue as ice on the stats page; yet, I kept triggering free spin rounds. It didn't pay out all that much, but I did have a couple nice moments, despite what the stat page was showing. So in other words, your payouts aren't necessarily going to match anyone else's.

I'm not sure exactly why there aren't any low variance slots.

I think this was discussed a while ago. In essence, 3Dice didn't want a long list of "clones", so released few new games relative to other softwares, but each game was intended to be different. Low variance slots tend not to be exciting enough for most players. Big wins of relatively low stakes are more likely at 3Dice, but so is busting out quickly.

There have been quite a few posts from players who have bet too high at 3Dice because they have been used to lower variance, and then complained that they "bust out in no time".

 

[Nate]

You can play the lower variance games at lower stakes and the outcome is always the same... lose lose lose lose lose lose... win a little bit.. lose lose lose

Gave it a fair shot... There are higher variance games at other Casinos that pay more often than at 3Dice.

In any event, each to their own... some swear they win, my experience has been the complete opposite.

Nate

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Finally started playing at 3Dice this evening, have only tried a few of the medium variance slots up to now, initial thoughts and impressions....

1) Within about an hour of me starting playing, Enzo opened up a private chat window with me in the chat client to welcome me to the casino and wish me luck. A very nice personal touch, there was nothing intrusive or uncomfortable about it, it just felt like a sincere personal introduction to the casino.

2) The graphics and sound aren't going to give MG any sleepless nights yet, and the interface is a touch clunky - but I'm learning my way around it. I'll be back with a wishlist and suggestions in due course There are quite a few elements of the graphics and game design I'm warming to already though.

3) Live chat is an excellent addition. This is also available at Jackpot Party (not sure who came up with the idea first ), but I do like it.

4) They actually list the variance of every single game on the main slots page, mouse over a game, and it'll tell you its expected variance. This is superb IMO, especially for a brand new player like myself. Other casinos take note.

5) The Zeitgeist page. Speaks for itself!

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6) The games appear to render 'properly' using the GPU, which is nice (it kicks off both FRAPS and my graphics card's overclocking software, which I have running at all times), but it looks a bit screwy on my PC with some games. (The basic slots in particular look all kinds of messed up.)

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7) I'm enjoying the games themselves, low-rolling at 50p per spin or less I'm getting regular feature hits and decent wins, in profit at the moment but not massively so. After my first few thousand spins, the games are feeling pretty good.

8) Customer service has so far been impeccable, from Enzo's PMs here at CM, to his welcome on the casino itself. Next test will be when I make a withdrawal I guess

9) I still think they need to get the SUB sorted out, it's downright unwelcoming for new players who like a bonus - either remove it completely or ease off on the WR a bit. Were it not for me posting here about it and Enzo contacting me as he did, I'd have never deposited there at all.

10) Being able to stream internet radio as a function of the casino client whilst you're playing the slots. Pure genius. I've been playing Payola with the 'Digitally Imported - European Trance' channel thumping along in the background, and it's got proper sound to light functionality built in. Quality

 

[ChopleyIOM]

First impressions video after a few hours slotting:

(I had to move over to my media centre PC to get this video, as my main gaming PC has a lot of graphical issues with 3Dice's software, which I am currently working out with their support.)

EDIT - Graphical issues sorted out, I needed to add a -jdib switch to the 3Dice executable, not sure what it does, but it did the job. And for the record, 3Dice's support got back to me within 1 hour after 11pm GMT - not bad going, and yet another reason I'm starting to like this casino more and more

 

[Mojack]

Enjoyed your video Chopley!
Just a note on Payola; 4 scatters is a 4x multiplier and 5 scatters is an 8x multiplier.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Just a note on Payola; 4 scatters is a 4x multiplier and 5 scatters is an 8x multiplier.

Ooops, I'd only had a quick look at the paytable, and it was quite late, and I'd had rather a lot of wine......