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Many thanks Mark. Sorry that it wasn't Angelina paying you a visit...ha ha. :laugh:

Just a reminder to everyone as well that the Xmas Prize Wheel is up in the 32Red lobby. I had a 150% bonus for today...unfortunately, I have an extremely sick (with the flu) little girl..and won't be able to get out to load my CC. But make sure and check it every day, as the prizes are usually pretty stellar, ie. deposit bonuses, free games and free chips. And of course a slightly higher level for Club Rouge players.

Cheers!!
 
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December Results

Happy New Year everyone!

Some fantastic scores in December, SJN and VWM battling it out for the top spot - SJN managed a whopping 1,000,000 points - but, I'm afraid the average bet was short of the 0.10 requirement so that amazing score doesn't qualify. :(

The table and prizes below have been reshuffled to accomodate for this:

Position - ForumId - Points - Prize
1 - vinylweatherman - 576227 - 250
2 - BIGZEDBUD - 364408 - 150 plus 50 Bonus
3 - Tirilej - 178213 - 125
4 - plasticnote - 175691 - 100
5 - davidkohcg - 168649 - 100
6 - Jasminebed - 87869 - 75
7 - DeBeuker - 81745 - 50
8 - maxwall - 71823 - 50
9 - RUSTYROO - 71819 - 50 plus 32 Bonus
10 - paulcr - 71801 - 50 plus 32 Bonus

11 - Monsun2000 - 64688 - 50
12 - AudiManinBoro - 60533 - 32
13 - Pinababy69 - 58562 - 32
14 - ternur - 57370 - 32
15 - birder - 51952 - 32
16 - suomikala87 - 51839 - 32
17 - bubbleg - 49256 - 25
18 - klara1968 - 49253 - 25
19 - osloking - 47320 - 25 plus 50 Bonus
20 - mippsaublue - 46732 - 25 plus 50 Bonus

21 - gokkie - 45079 - 20
22 - PNEFOREVER2 - 39273 - 20
23 - mellowmenjo - 37707 - 20
24 - sat777 - 36360 - 20
25 - mattsgame - 36247 - 20
26 - pianoman - 35665 - 15
27 - sagera - 30485 - 15
28 - slotobob - 30039 - 15
29 - mn001 - 30038 - 10 plus 32 Bonus
30 - andi - 29975 - 10 plus 32 Bonus

31 - Takkaone - 28937 - 10
32 - TBC - TBC - 10

You will see that, where players were due to get a special prize before the disqualification, I have also given them the special prize as well as the promoted position.

Moving forward, I have requested a change so only players with an average of > 0.10 will show in the leaderboard, that way it will be possible for players to identify when they have fallen short of the requirement. I'll let you know when this change has been made.

I'm awaiting details of the 32nd place, the report I get only shows 32 and I obviously need 33 now!

Prizes will be in shortly.

Mark
 
Thank you for the prize, and thanks for doubling the bonus prizes for those lucky players. Wish I hadn't gone to bed drunk so early, mine's been added to an account that needs quite a bit of wagering!

Even though sjn missed the qualifications, maybe he could get last place, just for the sheer effort?

Best of luck in 2013 everyone
 
This comes as a surprise. I conceded defeat after I could see that SJN had a PC just as fast as mine and I couldn't gain any ground. Pity a careless error allowed her to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory at the last moment:p

I think changing the scores to only show those that have met the 0.10 average will help in these high score contests, as it would have allowed SJN to retain the hard fought victory.

It's pretty close to the all time record too!

I was caught napping by SJN and didn't start my sprint soon enough, it won't happen again:o


I was also rudely interrupted on the 30th, and could not concentrate on the hard fight needed to make up the 200K shortfall.
 

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I saw that SJN was way ahead also, after Christmas. Did not have access to computer, only phone and was out of town enjoying the festivities at Niagara Falls ( real casinos...lol ).

Kinda was waiting for VWM to turn on his jets. But alas, there are priorities in life other than this monthly competition.

Happy New Year all. Let the games begin !

G
 
I lost track totally of my average amount per spin, I usually try to use the rubie points as a guide but with Christmas etc I was distracted. I then thought i'd just try to reach a million.

I noticed something a bit odd in some of my sessions this month. My main machine has 32gb ram and often i see one of the casinogame processes just grow and grow in memory usage upto in excess of 8gb used which obviously is not right. I can run 8 games at once reliably but more than that i get intermittant failures and the 'we have a casino error message'.
 
I lost track totally of my average amount per spin, I usually try to use the rubie points as a guide but with Christmas etc I was distracted. I then thought i'd just try to reach a million.

I noticed something a bit odd in some of my sessions this month. My main machine has 32gb ram and often i see one of the casinogame processes just grow and grow in memory usage upto in excess of 8gb used which obviously is not right. I can run 8 games at once reliably but more than that i get intermittant failures and the 'we have a casino error message'.

That's the well known MGS "memory leak".

I have a mere 16gb of RAM, but it seems enough. I find also that if large numbers of games are running, some tend to fall over with casino error 2 and have to be restarted. It looks like we both have equal capabilities when it comes to a sprint finish, but I was more careful to keep an eye on my betting average, so didn't have to worry about defeat or rude interruptions in the end:p

It seems that the casino server can't cope with too many bet requests from a single account, so some go unanswered, and the games fall over with this error 2.

Certain games seem more prone to such failures as others, but I am not telling you which ones:p:p:p
 
I have been thinking about the fairness in this competition.

Some people play a lot more than others and in a way I think that is what should be awarded.
Not that you have a machine so great that you can leave everyone else behind you by playing just one line on several games.

I know it have been discussed a lot in this thread earlier too, but it's a long thread to read for those who are new:eek2:

I do have an okey computer now and have tried to play more than one game at a time, but since I like to see what happens on a game I have stopped to even try.
For those that don't have those great computers it isn't really fair.
They maybe are playing just as much as those that are in the top positions every month, but will never reach to the top.

I agree that it was nice to see when the record was taken not too long ago, but still....;)
 
I have been thinking about the fairness in this competition.

Some people play a lot more than others and in a way I think that is what should be awarded.
Not that you have a machine so great that you can leave everyone else behind you by playing just one line on several games.

I know it have been discussed a lot in this thread earlier too, but it's a long thread to read for those who are new:eek2:

I do have an okey computer now and have tried to play more than one game at a time, but since I like to see what happens on a game I have stopped to even try.
For those that don't have those great computers it isn't really fair.
They maybe are playing just as much as those that are in the top positions every month, but will never reach to the top.

I agree that it was nice to see when the record was taken not too long ago, but still....;)

What Tirilej said ! totally .
 
Perhaps it is time to change the format for this, it has been running for some years in it's current version.

The actual amount wagered has been discussed before, but rejected on the grounds that it would only allow another group of players to dominate, the high rollers as opposed to those with the fastest PC.

One inclusive format might be a table based on the biggest win as a multiple of the bet, with a qualifying minimum bet. It would be luck, rather than fastest spin rate, that would dominate. One could make a million spins, yet be beaten by a lucky player who got a 5 wild wildstorm off a 30p minimum bet.

The format could change regularly, so that no one group of players could end up dominating as is currently the case.
 
Nothing in life is entirely fair. I have 1 mg of ram, have no hopes of top spot even staying up all night. I don't know where anyone sets 9999 spins, all mine seem to be topped at 999. But I could have purchased a newer PC, I could spend more in deposits, I could low roll for pennies for a few hours instead of making a withdraw.

I rather like the Slotmeister as it is. It's not like I couldn't use the same kind of strategies. It's not as if I had to be taller, or stronger, or better looking, things beyond my control.

I don't make the board every month, but when I do I always appreciate that it's there.

As for the fact that some players have bigger bankrolls than others.... well, has the distribution of wealth in the world EVER been entirely fair?
 
The mere fact that the same people ... the ones who can be bothered spinning 1 cent one line day in and day out ... win this every single time, should tell everyone that it's a bad setup imo.

I don't have an opinion either way, as to whether it should be changed or not, since it's 32Red's decision to run it like this, but a change to something else once in a while would be refreshing ;)

Personally I've completely lost interest in the way it's set up now.
 
The mere fact that the same people ... the ones who can be bothered spinning 1 cent one line day in and day out ... win this every single time, should tell everyone that it's a bad setup imo.

I don't have an opinion either way, as to whether it should be changed or not, since it's 32Red's decision to run it like this, but a change to something else once in a while would be refreshing ;)

Personally I've completely lost interest in the way it's set up now.

This is a compelling reason to review this tournament on a regular basis. The idea is to have something that is of interest to as many players as possible. At present, this has evolved into a spectator sport.

Perhaps 32Red could offer betting on the outcome of this tournament so that player with no chance of making 1 million spins could at least wager on who can.

There was once a trial of having the top prize paid for 6th place, so that it became a strategic game rather than a most spins one. Perhaps something along these lines could be run every few months, maybe even an "upside down" version where position 32 paid 250, and the higher ones paid less. 33-36 could have the mystery prizes for a good try, but a miss.
 
It doesn't matter if you spin 1 cent or 25 cents per line or if you have 1 GB or 32 GB of RAM. Play one game or 5 at a time. The point is you must have some sort of bankroll ( or hit some nice payouts ) and the time to do it. If you think its "free" to spin a million times a month, you need your head examined.

I would have no problem trading my $125-250 tourney prize for my months losses. ( Mark, do you hear that....lol ) Some months are better than other, some are just terrifying.

This is GAMBLING. Some win, some lose. Its just refreshing that 32Red would offer a little bone for us to go after. I can guarantee the top 30 spend more playing then the prizes allotted at the end of the month. If not, 32Red would pull it.

Sorry if I sound bitter, but those are the facts. I would offer no suggestions that I could possibly think of that would "level" the playing field. Unless it was completely random.
 
Well...there are other ways of "rewarding" people, who are willing ... note that I'm not saying able ... to do a million spins a month. If I wanted to, I could too.
Imo it's both pointless and a bit (lot) silly to spend time and resources playing one cent one line...each to their own tho ;)
If 32Red wants to reward this kind of "play" they could simply give those (same) players some comp points for their effort, or write them a check each month.

Anyway...it's the same to me, as I said, but if the purpose is to have a bit of fun, for as many players as possible, they should look into something fun, instead of this ;)
If the purpose however, is to reward the same people for doing a million pointless spins a month, month after month, then it's a perfect setup for that.


It doesn't matter if you spin 1 cent or 25 cents per line or if you have 1 GB or 32 GB of RAM. Play one game or 5 at a time. The point is you must have some sort of bankroll ( or hit some nice payouts ) and the time to do it. If you think its "free" to spin a million times a month, you need your head examined.

I would have no problem trading my $125-250 tourney prize for my months losses. ( Mark, do you hear that....lol ) Some months are better than other, some are just terrifying.

This is GAMBLING. Some win, some lose. Its just refreshing that 32Red would offer a little bone for us to go after. I can guarantee the top 30 spend more playing then the prizes allotted at the end of the month. If not, 32Red would pull it.

Sorry if I sound bitter, but those are the facts. I would offer no suggestions that I could possibly think of that would "level" the playing field. Unless it was completely random.
 
Sorry LaHutti, I was just pointing out the obvious. I am not on the mountain shouting down. I am far from it.

When 32Red started this tourney, all the scores were close ( look back ). Not until MG changed and offered up to 5 games at a time, did the scores start to increase. This is the cause of what you see now. It is not level at all due to computer differences. If you have the advantage, then you can use it.

Possibly, Mark can pick one game per month ( we should all be able to spin around the same speed for one game ), total spins divided/multipled by some sort of bet size per spin. There would still be ways around being "fair". Leave your computer on all day versus playing a few hours a day. Even with that, I would still play more than one game at a time.

Or, like 32RED already provides "CasinoMeister only" special tourneys every now and then. Do this monthly, no rebuys. That is as fair as it would get.
 
I believe I started a little discussion again and that was my purpose of course.
Nothing is so good it can't get better, but on the other side it's not broken so why fix it.

What I really wanted to say is that I think it's ridiculous of those who actually are playing just one line, just to get to the top spots.
If that changed then we might could keep it as it is. They might win anyway and that's perfectly fine for me, but not in a way that it's not fair.
 
I love the idea of a monthly/biweekly/however often Mark would see fit, casinomeister tournament. That way everyone would have a chance, without having to spend half their life watching 1 line spins ;)

To make sure it's being financed, have a minimum deposit amount for the previous month to qualify.
Something along those lines would be great.

Sorry LaHutti, I was just pointing out the obvious. I am not on the mountain shouting down. I am far from it.

When 32Red started this tourney, all the scores were close ( look back ). Not until MG changed and offered up to 5 games at a time, did the scores start to increase. This is the cause of what you see now. It is not level at all due to computer differences. If you have the advantage, then you can use it.

Possibly, Mark can pick one game per month ( we should all be able to spin around the same speed for one game ), total spins divided/multipled by some sort of bet size per spin. There would still be ways around being "fair". Leave your computer on all day versus playing a few hours a day. Even with that, I would still play more than one game at a time.

Or, like 32RED already provides "CasinoMeister only" special tourneys every now and then. Do this monthly, no rebuys. That is as fair as it would get.
 
I figure, it's free, I've no obligation to participate, if I place, great, if not oh well. I placed once. Didn't do anything different from my normal gameplay, just a good run. Tweak it, keep it, toss it, I figure it's a perk, I'm good with it.
 
I believe I started a little discussion again and that was my purpose of course.
Nothing is so good it can't get better, but on the other side it's not broken so why fix it.

What I really wanted to say is that I think it's ridiculous of those who actually are playing just one line, just to get to the top spots.
If that changed then we might could keep it as it is. They might win anyway and that's perfectly fine for me, but not in a way that it's not fair.

As with any contest, some participants just get better and rise to the top of the field. It might be like changing the rules for the 100M sprint to stop Usain Bolt from winning all the time. If the attainable scores depend on computer power and bankroll, perhaps the bonus prize system for getting a certain position needs a revamp, making this part of the contest about as profitable as doing a million spins. Having some aspect change every month would open the field to a new set of players each time. The big spinners could still fight their way to the top.

It's not about making a profit from the prize money at all, it is about beating the field. I can assure everybody that getting first place costs far more than the 250 prize. A million spins at an average of 10p costs £100,000 in wagering. 5% goes to the house, hence the cost can be £5000 if an average of 95% RTP is achieved. Whilst some of this £5000 comes from the daily boni, this still leaves £3000 or more to come from deposits. Over the long term, this tournament can never be profitable for the top positions.

For the lower positions, this is not necessarily true, as it may take relatively few spins to achieve the first bonus prize rung, and this could just boost what the player has made from the daily boni.

Having greater prizes for lower placings, such as an upside down scoreboard, would be "unfair" on another group of players - the elite with fast PCs and a million spins.

With the newest lobby upgrade, the 5 game limit no longer applies, it seems there is no limit other than what the PC can handle. It is the casino server that starts to trip up first, as it starts losing the connection to individual games which need to be restarted. Next, the PC processor hits 100%, and this slows down the speed of all open games.

SJN has revealed that she can sustain up to 8 games with reasonable stability. I have found it to be about the same. Without stability being a criterion, I can have a dozen games running to completely fill my monitor. For casinos that run the more traditional wager challenge tournaments, this has been a very useful discovery - I always thought the 5 game limit still applied.
 
January Results

Hi Guys,

Sorry for the slight delay this morning, here are January's results. Thanks for playing!

Position - ForumID - Points - Prize
1 - BIGZEDBUD - 358662 - 250
2 - sjn - 169025 - 150 plus 50 Bonus
3 - Tirilej - 90172 - 125
4 - RUSTYROO - 72582 - 100
5 - birder - 69149 - 100
6 - Takkaone - 65142 - 75
7 - shanetospin - 63440 - 50
8 - plasticnote - 59048 - 50
9 - Jasminebed - 58948 - 50
10 - Monsun2000 - 58941 - 50 Plus 32 Bonus
11 - paulcr - 58926 - 50
12 - Pinababy69 - 56068 - 32
13 - kavaman - 56055 - 32
14 - DeBeuker - 50606 - 32
15 - davidkohcg - 39703 - 32
16 - maxwall - 35924 - 32
17 - sjonnny - 35542 - 25
18 - LaHutti - 35515 - 25
19 - mippsaublue - 35450 - 25
20 - leetarded - 35283 - 25 Plus 75 Bonus
21 - 1366613 - 32449 - 20
22 - lowdwnsteve - 32081 - 20
23 - sagera - 32047 - 20
24 - andi - 31835 - 20
25 - wtrdrgns - 29551 - 20
26 - PNEFOREVER2 - 29121 - 15
27 - purpletin - 29039 - 15
28 - bubbleg - 28419 - 15
29 - 09237653 - 27938 - 15
30 - Mullemaus1108 - 26943 - 10 Plus 32 Bonus
31 - pianoman - 26818 - 10
32 - mattsgame - 26079 - 10

Prizes will be in shortly!

Cheers
Mark
 
Hi Guys,

Here are February's results. Congratulations to all the winners!

Position - ForumID - Points - Prize

1 - sjn - 154983 - 250
2 - RUSTYROO - 132059 - 150 Plus 50 Bonus
3 - Tirilej - 117836 - 125
4 - BIGZEDBUD - 90386 - 100
5 - flyer187 - 85078 - 100
6 - Jasminebed - 71075 - 75
7 - plasticnote - 70171 - 50
8 - suomikala87 - 63248 - 50
9 - leetarded - 60088 - 50
10 - paulcr - 57210 - 50 Plus 32 Bonus
11 - slotobob - 56025 - 50
12 - sattty - 55528 - 32
13 - Pinababy69 - 48913 - 32
14 - lowdwnsteve - 48460 - 32
15 - Takkaone - 45898 - 32
16 - Monsun2000 - 44613 - 32
17 - DeBeuker - 44546 - 25
18 - kavaman - 42161 - 25
19 - mippsaublue - 41455 - 25
20 - purpletin - 36369 - 25 Plus 50 Bonus
21 - davidkohcg - 36094 - 20
22 - birder - 35725 - 20
23 - mattsgame - 35544 - 20
24 - preside500 - 34452 - 20
25 - maxwall - 31287 - 20
26 - AintWon1967 - 26770 - 15
27 - bubbleg - 25815 - 15
28 - andi - 24146 - 15
29 - sjonnny - 23020 - 15
30 - shanetospin - 21966 - 10 Plus 32 Bonus
31 - The Viking - 21772 - 10
32 - osloking - 21464 - 10

Prizes will be in shortly.

Regards
Mark
 
I dont really understand this competition.

Thanks once again 32Red and gl everyone with their prizes.

Is it the one who makes the most spins in a month? Ummm how are spins worked? Is it like minimum bet, say 25 lines at 1 cent, a spin or could one get away with playing 1 cent, 1 line;)

It looks interesting and I keep meaning to get into it, just havent got around to it, being a Netent freak at the moment:o

So anyone? How does this work?:confused:
 
Is it the one who makes the most spins in a month? Ummm how are spins worked? Is it like minimum bet, say 25 lines at 1 cent, a spin or could one get away with playing 1 cent, 1 line;)

It looks interesting and I keep meaning to get into it, just havent got around to it, being a Netent freak at the moment:o

So anyone? How does this work?:confused:

You have to make an average bet of 0.10 per spin over the month. One point is given for a bet, and another if you get a payout on the spin.

The aim is to be beaten by sjn, bigzedbud, or vinylweatherman by the least embarrassing margin by the end of the month:p
 
Would be nice if they could implement into casino account what each month's average spin amount is :p
Would be interesting to know :)

Are the prizes cash or do they carry the usual 30x wager requirements?
 
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