32RED - great bonus

Has anyone else got the 200% offer for 32RED. It is up to 200$, absolutely fabulous. :thumbsup:

I know now where my next deposit will go. :D
Yep - I got it too! :thumbsup:

Much appreciated as my last 2 deposits didn't last very long... :(
And haven't managed a cash-out on my last 11 deposits! (Mostly my own fault for not quitting when ahead).

KK
 
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25% is all i can find.. :what:

Who takes a 25% bonus? They are useless! :p

I tried to talk with Live CS but when i click the link in the client it just goes to a FAQ help page?

Also i couldnt find the client on their webpage?
I had to dig out an old downloaded1.

Click on any of the FAQ tabs and then scroll down to see the Chat button. It won't show otherwise. That's how it was until i last used it some months ago
 
25% is all i can find.. :what:

Who takes a 25% bonus? They are useless! :p

I tried to talk with Live CS but when i click the link in the client it just goes to a FAQ help page?

Also i couldnt find the client on their webpage?
I had to dig out an old downloaded1.

It was through email. I hope I get one too and maybe I can afford one deposit this month. Maybe, or I ask if I can save it one month or so ;)

I know it doesn't say download on their webpage. It say's Premium casino instead.
 
I never got any bonus but I'm not complaining as I've had UNBELIEVABLE luck at 32red lately :D:D

Took today's 'Dish of the Day' and 88 spins in......:p:p:p


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Thanks 32red! :thumbsup:
 
The day 32RED goes multi-platform will be the day that i have only 1 active casino account! :D

Said this a few times myself matey.

No info but I reckon it will happen in the next 12 months or so ;)

Didn't get the 200% but gutted about it and happy at the same time as I'm on a deposit break right now anyway lol :)

Edit: Spotted the screenie above this post as I made it, sobbing into my coffee here :p
 
Said this a few times myself matey.

No info but I reckon it will happen in the next 12 months or so ;)

Didn't get the 200% but gutted about it and happy at the same time as I'm on a deposit break right now anyway lol :)

Edit: Spotted the screenie above this post as I made it, sobbing into my coffee here :p

Its good to TAB im always taking them ha ... clear the decks so to speak. And they will be other offers.
The worry for me was when I didnt know when to take a break and ended up loosing my mind (and wallet ) usually every month.

So some self inflicted discipline is the way to go :thumbsup:
 
Got only the 50% dotd, lasted about 20 mins on BSG and LV , these larger offers are to incentivize less active players to come back I think, us regular players are already "active" so no need to reel them in with decent offers, but they can keep them if they come with 40x WR anyway.
 
Got only the 50% dotd, lasted about 20 mins on BSG and LV , these larger offers are to incentivize less active players to come back I think, us regular players are already "active" so no need to reel them in with decent offers, but they can keep them if they come with 40x WR anyway.

40 X B is a very bad EV-

£100 at 200% = £300 x 40 = 8000/0.04 (96% average slot RTP) = £480 cost to WR completion.

Average outcome therefore will be minus £180 from your starting balance of £300 bonus tie-in.

£100 at 50% = £150 x 40 = 6000/0.04 = £240 cost to WR completion.

Average outcome therefore will be minus £90 from your starting balance of £150 bonus tie-in.

Assuming average variance you have about 35% chance of ANY positive balance left on meeting WR, to be above the starting bonus amount at wagering about 12.5%.

'Great Bonus' my arse. If it was 'great' you wouldn't be offered it. People should get their calculators out before calling any bonus 'great'.

It's 'great' for the casino in that cash-outs will be few, 'great' for players who like clicking the start button for longer than usual before busting out but not that great for people hoping to make a profit to cash-out. You'll need luck like the guy's 4-reel WD to make it EV+...... :)

APOLOGY - Brianmon has pointed out an error - while my calculations above are correct, they apply to 40x D+B not just B on its own. 32Red are offering x B WR only.

It's still EV- (i.e. you will lose your bonus and some of the deposit whether at 30 or 40x B WR) but it's nowhere near a poor as a D+B WR....
 
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40 X B is a very bad EV-

£100 at 200% = £300 x 40 = 8000/0.04 (96% average slot RTP) = £480 cost to WR completion.

Average outcome therefore will be minus £180 from your starting balance of £300 bonus tie-in.

£100 at 50% = £150 x 40 = 6000/0.04 = £240 cost to WR completion.

Average outcome therefore will be minus £90 from your starting balance of £150 bonus tie-in.

Assuming average variance you have about 35% chance of ANY positive balance left on meeting WR, to be above the starting bonus amount at wagering about 12.5%.

'Great Bonus' my arse. If it was 'great' you wouldn't be offered it. People should get their calculators out before calling any bonus 'great'.

It's 'great' for the casino in that cash-outs will be few, 'great' for players who like clicking the start button for longer than usual before busting out but not that great for people hoping to make a profit to cash-out. You'll need luck like the guy's 4-reel WD to make it EV+...... :)

Great post to see once the pure numbers!

My offer is still at the usual 30xB WR...but i do not particularly look for large withdrawals or the like unless i get superlucky and hit as well a 4-reeler. The download client is just still my favorite way to play online and if i do a session on VIPER it will be no other than 32RED....on top a balance of $300 will give me plenty of play time for a deposit of $100. And of course once in a while i like to beat a WR challenge. :)

Lastly, playing with a bonus at 32RED is as worry free as it can be these days, no need to read a gazillion T&C pages.
 
40 X B is a very bad EV-

£100 at 200% = £300 x 40 = 8000/0.04 (96% average slot RTP) = £480 cost to WR completion.

Average outcome therefore will be minus £180 from your starting balance of £300 bonus tie-in.

£100 at 50% = £150 x 40 = 6000/0.04 = £240 cost to WR completion.

Average outcome therefore will be minus £90 from your starting balance of £150 bonus tie-in.

Assuming average variance you have about 35% chance of ANY positive balance left on meeting WR, to be above the starting bonus amount at wagering about 12.5%.

'Great Bonus' my arse. If it was 'great' you wouldn't be offered it. People should get their calculators out before calling any bonus 'great'.

It's 'great' for the casino in that cash-outs will be few, 'great' for players who like clicking the start button for longer than usual before busting out but not that great for people hoping to make a profit to cash-out. You'll need luck like the guy's 4-reel WD to make it EV+...... :)



how do you do this really are you some sort of mathematician, I am looking but all I seeing is blah blah blah.

Can you also please educate me on how to work out a rhino win I am really struggling with it
 
how do you do this really are you some sort of mathematician, I am looking but all I seeing is blah blah blah.

Can you also please educate me on how to work out a rhino win I am really struggling with it

I would say don't bother trying to understand. Guy's just have to try and think they win both with luck and their intelligence.
We are smart enough to know it's mostly based on luck or no luck, and are enjoying the games instead :)
 
how do you do this really are you some sort of mathematician, I am looking but all I seeing is blah blah blah.

Can you also please educate me on how to work out a rhino win I am really struggling with it

I'll try (and also keep it simple) but I'm also knackered lol.

Best way to work it out is

Working across the screen from left to right, physically count the Rhinos (or any symbol involved in the win)
also include 'x2' and 'x3' wilds which count in with the win.

For example

Reel 1 has 2 Rhinos
Reel 2 has 1 Rhino
Reel 3 has 2 Rhinos
Reel 4 has a 'x3' wild
Reel 5 has 1 Rhino
Reel 6 has 3 Rhinos

so now for the maths bit lol, using the numbers in bold above...

2 x 1 x 2 x 3 x 1 x 3 = 36 - This tells you how many different 'ways' you have the 6OAK Rhinos

To work out x Stake you multiply the ways as Follows...

Rhinos stop at (and inclusive of) Reel 3 = 3.75 x ways
Rhinos stop at Reel 4 = 5.00 x ways
Rhinos stop at Reel 5 = 6.25 x ways
Rhinos across all 6 reels = 7.5 x ways

Or you can say (for 6OAK's) ways x £3 per 0.40p staked (in this example lets say we played at 0.80p)

It would be the ways above (36) x £6 = £216.

Hope this helps and makes sense as when I read it back I've confused myself lol :oops:
 
40 X B is a very bad EV-

£100 at 200% = £300 x 40 = 8000/0.04 (96% average slot RTP) = £480 cost to WR completion.

Average outcome therefore will be minus £180 from your starting balance of £300 bonus tie-in.

£100 at 50% = £150 x 40 = 6000/0.04 = £240 cost to WR completion.

Average outcome therefore will be minus £90 from your starting balance of £150 bonus tie-in.

Assuming average variance you have about 35% chance of ANY positive balance left on meeting WR, to be above the starting bonus amount at wagering about 12.5%.

'Great Bonus' my arse. If it was 'great' you wouldn't be offered it. People should get their calculators out before calling any bonus 'great'.

It's 'great' for the casino in that cash-outs will be few, 'great' for players who like clicking the start button for longer than usual before busting out but not that great for people hoping to make a profit to cash-out. You'll need luck like the guy's 4-reel WD to make it EV+...... :)

Shouldn't that be

£100 at 200% = £200 x 40 = 8000 x 0.04 (96% average slot RTP) = £320 cost to WR completion.
and
£100 at 50% = £50 x 40 = 2000 x 0.04 = £80 cost to WR completion.


or if it is the regular 30x WR like harry says

£100 at 200% = £200 x 30 = 6000 x 0.04 (96% average slot RTP) = £240 cost to WR completion.
and
£100 at 50% = £50 x 30 = 1500 x 0.04 = £60 cost to WR completion.
 
I'll try (and also keep it simple) but I'm also knackered lol.

Best way to work it out is

Working across the screen from left to right, physically count the Rhinos (or any symbol involved in the win)
also include 'x2' and 'x3' wilds which count in with the win.

For example

Reel 1 has 2 Rhinos
Reel 2 has 1 Rhino
Reel 3 has 2 Rhinos
Reel 4 has a 'x3' wild
Reel 5 has 1 Rhino
Reel 6 has 3 Rhinos

so now for the maths bit lol, using the numbers in bold above...

2 x 1 x 2 x 3 x 1 x 3 = 36 - This tells you how many different 'ways' you have the 6OAK Rhinos

To work out x Stake you multiply the ways as Follows...

Rhinos stop at (and inclusive of) Reel 3 = 3.75 x ways
Rhinos stop at Reel 4 = 5.00 x ways
Rhinos stop at Reel 5 = 6.25 x ways
Rhinos across all 6 reels = 7.5 x ways

Or you can say (for 6OAK's) ways x £3 per 0.40p staked (in this example lets say we played at 0.80p)

It would be the ways above (36) x £6 = £216.

Hope this helps and makes sense as when I read it back I've confused myself lol :oops:



ok thanks for trying but lets just give up now lol, I am not saying its your formula its just me I cant grasp it :oops:
 
how do you do this really are you some sort of mathematician, I am looking but all I seeing is blah blah blah.

Can you also please educate me on how to work out a rhino win I am really struggling with it

OK simply look at the paytables for rhino say and start with x stake for each 6-of-a-kind.

40P spins 6 Rhinos pays £3 so that's 7.5x stake.

Cheetahs pay 6.25x stake for 6 (£2.50, and say 9's pay £1 (2.5 x stake)

So you get 6 single Rhinos pays 7.5x stake. Get the same win but with one double one and you now have 2 ways of 6OAK Rhinos which is thus 15x stake. Get the same again but this time with 3 singles, one triple and 2 double Rhinos you have 1x1x1x3x2x2 = 12 ways x 7.5 = 90x stake for the rhino win.

The Wilds in the bonus work the same as the stacks, but as they only take a single position on the reel they can work for multiple symbols. The simplest example is say you get Triple rhino reel 1 then the 4 wilds and single Rhino on reel 6. To make it easier the Wilds all award 2x. So you would get 3x2x2x2x2x1 Rhinos = 48 x 7.5x stake so would get 360x stake for the rhino win. Now given that if you had 3 rhinos reel 1 you would have a crocodile between them, you would have 1x2x2x2x2 = 16 x 5OAK crocs too (pays 4x stake), more if a crocodile was visible next to one of the Wilds which it can be. If you had 1 croc on the same reel as any of those 2x Wilds, then effectively it would become 3x so it would be 1x2x2x3x2= 24 ways of 5 crocs at 4x stake per way.

This why Wilds are so crucial. In the Rhino example, just ONE of those Wilds being 3x would increase your 360 x stake Rhino pay by 50% to 540 x stake, an increase of 180x stake!
 
Shouldn't that be

£100 at 200% = £200 x 40 = 8000 x 0.04 (96% average slot RTP) = £320 cost to WR completion.
and
£100 at 50% = £50 x 40 = 2000 x 0.04 = £80 cost to WR completion.


or if it is the regular 30x WR like harry says

£100 at 200% = £200 x 30 = 6000 x 0.04 (96% average slot RTP) = £240 cost to WR completion.
and
£100 at 50% = £50 x 30 = 1500 x 0.04 = £60 cost to WR completion.

Yes, I gave the D+B example which is correct at 40x - kick my ass as the 32red offer only applies to bonus as Brianmon has pointed out thanks!

Even so, in all cases on average you WILL lose your bonus plus some of your deposit. This then means you'll likely go and try and get your original deposit back by keeping playing, then lose it all when you can't!

It's still EV- as I stated originally but not as badly EV- as D+B would be. Sorry for the misunderstanding!
 
OK simply look at the paytables for rhino say and start with x stake for each 6-of-a-kind.

40P spins 6 Rhinos pays £3 so that's 7.5x stake.

Cheetahs pay 6.25x stake for 6 (£2.50, and say 9's pay £1 (2.5 x stake)

So you get 6 single Rhinos pays 7.5x stake. Get the same win but with one double one and you now have 2 ways of 6OAK Rhinos which is thus 15x stake. Get the same again but this time with 3 singles, one triple and 2 double Rhinos you have 1x1x1x3x2x2 = 12 ways x 7.5 = 90x stake for the rhino win.

The Wilds in the bonus work the same as the stacks, but as they only take a single position on the reel they can work for multiple symbols. The simplest example is say you get Triple rhino reel 1 then the 4 wilds and single Rhino on reel 6. To make it easier the Wilds all award 2x. So you would get 3x2x2x2x2x1 Rhinos = 48 x 7.5x stake so would get 360x stake for the rhino win. Now given that if you had 3 rhinos reel 1 you would have a crocodile between them, you would have 1x2x2x2x2 = 16 x 5OAK crocs too (pays 4x stake), more if a crocodile was visible next to one of the Wilds which it can be. If you had 1 croc on the same reel as any of those 2x Wilds, then effectively it would become 3x so it would be 1x2x2x3x2= 24 ways of 5 crocs at 4x stake per way.

This why Wilds are so crucial. In the Rhino example, just ONE of those Wilds being 3x would increase your 360 x stake Rhino pay by 50% to 540 x stake, an increase of 180x stake!


yay now I understand!, sorry John lol, thanks for taking the time (both of you) its been messing with my head for a while now.

after many thousands of spins I am still waiting for that monster hit
 
yay now I understand!, sorry John lol, thanks for taking the time (both of you) its been messing with my head for a while now.

after many thousands of spins I am still waiting for that monster hit

I've always had a knack for teaching the ladies patiently and properly....:D
 
No, it shouldn't - £100 at 200% bonus (HARRY'S EXAMPLE) = £300 starting balance. To convert that 12k wagering. Lose 4p per pound per spin at 40x wagering = 480 to complete.

I was demonstrating how badly EV- 40x B was.

Even if 30x it would still be EV-, but 33% more favourable to the chances of cash-outs I exemplified. 9k wagering x 0.04 = £360 to complete wagering, so minus £60 for your £300 starting bonus tie-in. :)

Don't forget your whole balance becomes effectively bonus as you cannot w/d until wagering completed at 32red...

But the wagering is on the £200 bonus not the £300 starting balance. It's not D+B, just xB

so even if if you count the starting balance as bonus money the wagering is still only £8000.
 
But the wagering is on the £200 bonus not the £300 starting balance. It's not D+B, just xB

so even if if you count the starting balance as bonus money the wagering is still only £8000.

Sorry, read back a bit and you'll see I noticed that error around the time you made your post, and have amended my 2 posts accordingly. :oops::oops:

Still EV- but nowhere near as bad as I made out. :oops:
 
Sorry, read back a bit and you'll see I noticed that error around the time you made your post, and have amended my 2 posts accordingly. :oops::oops:

Still EV- but nowhere near as bad as I made out. :oops:

It's ok.
Those sort of calculations are more useful from a casino's point of view anyway.
Where it's likely that from all the customers taking a bonus the average RTP will work out around 96% and the variance becomes negligible.

Where as an individual player is unlikely to get 96%, especially over only £8,000 worth of wagering. some may get 30% and some may get 300%
 
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