32 Red is now taking US players!

[Simmo!]

Maybe you'll have better luck with your birthday present!

Yeah true! Maybe a re-instatement of the old version of Thunderstruck

 

[Petunia]

And the bruhaha about 32Red is...???

Fill me in.

--- Let's see, untill now, their service was always available.
--- They have a good client service
--- They pay fast
--- They don't have a bad rep.... yet.
--- They actually have FACES behind the name
--- They don't spam.... yet
--- They seem to be well rounded, well supported and operating well.

I think that in itself should help you out some Caruso!

 

[DeMango]

--- Let's see, untill now, their service was always available.
--- They have a good client service
--- They pay fast
--- They don't have a bad rep.... yet.
--- They actually have FACES behind the name
--- They don't spam.... yet
--- They seem to be well rounded, well supported and operating well.

This can be said for 50-100 casinos out there! Most have better wagering requirements.

 

[thetest32]

And to make things better I just got my highest poker hand at 32Red - a straight flush!

Plus my balance is currently standing at 300 and all from a free bonus I got

I am happy...LOL

B.

 

[Slotster!]

The distinguishing factor for me is definitely customer service. You literally get a response to your emails within minutes, sometimes quicker! The response is always personal, accurate and friendly. Payouts are always back in my bank account within three days too.

In the world of signup bonuses, free play blah blah blah - a casino that you feel comfortable, secure and happy playing at goes an awful long way in the real world!

Heads would be rolling at that ISP though if I were in charge! When your entire business depends on the internet, and the internet breaks, there'd be hell to pay!!

 

[KasinoKing]

Not every gambler is a wild eyed, foaming at the mouth, crazed looking, bonus hunter!

People who value good reputation and customer service should sign up now!

The rest of us are going to give it a VERY wide birth!

Min bet = 5% of Deposit. Wagering requirement x 103.125
_________ ______________________________ __ Give me a break!

(WR was only x90 last week - they've put it UP!)

 

[GrandMaster]

This can be said for 50-100 casinos out there! Most have better wagering requirements.

Could you post this list of casinos?

 

[Macgyver]

Min bet = 5% of Deposit. Wagering requirement x 103.12
(WR was only x90 last week - they've put it UP!)

KK, though I agree with you that the minimum bet of 5% of deposit makes this particular bonus offer pretty bad, how do you get a wagering requirement that high?

Their site lists a 25X WR. If a player accepts the minimum bet percentage (read to mean: bets that percentage listed every bet), the WR still hasn't changed.

Am I missing something?

 

[KasinoKing]

I now always quote WR in terms of how many times you have to play through the amount awarded in bonus money. It's the best way to compare bonus value. (Thanks to Simmo!)

e.g. $100 with 100% bonus;
Wager both D&B x25 = $5000. $5000/$100 = 50 x the bonus amount.

With 32 Red, the bonus is (this week!) 32%
e.g. Deposit $100, get $32 bonus.
$132 x 25 = $3,300. $3,300/$32 = 103.125 x the bonus amount!

Scary, isn't it!

 

[Macgyver]

Thank you, that makes much more sense now.

 

[Petunia]

This can be said for 50-100 casinos out there! Most have better wagering requirements.

--- DeMango, but somehow they are lost in the whole yarball-mousenest-effect. I think the Red is doing good PR and THAT as well as everything else is setting them apart from the rest. I like them. I like their site, I like their pple, I just plainly like them THen again, I do have my very own 'pad' that I hang out too... hehehe
----------- ME? A well balanced individual, I think not! *grin*

 

[DeMango]

Thanks Petunia!
However there are many of us, I'm guessing a sizable majority, who have little need for customer service. We can read, we can follow instructions, we deposit correctly, and if we win, we withdraw the same way. So this "outstanding" customer service means nothing.
If I don't have a fair shot at a bonus that is a deal breaker. As I have said elsewhere, variance is the number one reason for busting out, not -ev. With these ludicrus terms the player is exposed, usually fatally. Not surprising then is the cacophony of portal and affiliates praise for this casino.

 

[Simmo!]

Not surprising then is the cacophony of portal and affiliates praise for this casino.

Well maybe thats true in some quarters - but I'm a portal owner and I've researched a shedload of casinos and 32Red is the casino i play myself out of choice. Make of that what you will Besides which, any affiliate who felt the need to support a casino because it had a bonus trap doesn't know the first thing about marketing!

With these ludicrous terms the player is exposed, usually fatally

Philosophy...
In my book, if you choose to accept "something for nothing" in life, you choose to take the baggage that goes with it. Doesn't matter if it's a free casino bonus, a free holiday from a timeshare company or anthing else for that matter. You may as well do a "get rich quick" search on Google and take a few of the offers that come up

Rant...(not aimed at anyone specifically)
Seriously though, I can see why a "bonus" is attractive to some people, hell i take them from time to time, but i sense that some people see it as their "right" to get free money for playing a casino and it really bugs me when they whinge on about the terms. If you don't like 'em, don't take 'em...no one's forcing you. Just don't bang on sounding like your human rights have been violated. Get over it and play somewhere else. Grrrrr.

If i ran a casino i wouldn't even offer a signup bonus - just give better loyalty bonuses. A well-run casino will thrive on its reputation. Besides, it won't be that long before bonuses are a thing of the past anyway, and no prizes for guessing why.
/Endrant

However there are many of us, I'm guessing a sizable majority, who have little need for customer service.

No offence DM, but thats what everyone says til they find they need it. Then the same people who thought that start banging on on these BBS's about "poor responses", "bad support" blah blah blah. They may not *need* "good customer service" but they need to know its there IMHO.

Cheers

Simmo!

 

[gfkostas]

I would have expected from 32red a montly bonus similar to the one at william hill or inter casino.Their current bonus is for laughs for me.

 

[largeeyes]

Here is my unbiased opinion. I have no connections with 32red whatsoever.

32red is a reputable online casino, which these days, is saying something. If you deposit and play, you're going to get paid. This is a comforting thing for anyone out there looking for a safe place to play.

Their bonus, especially the signup, for 95% of people is a bad deal. Just because I deposit $1,000 doesn't mean I like playing $50 hands of blackjack. To have to play such large hands, and with minimal bonus and very large WR I stand a large chance of being substantially down, if not ruined, by the time I have finished. I am betting that those $400 down get scared and then try to cut their losses and lose the whole grand, making it very profitable for the casino.

 

[gaputernut]

Can't try somewhere you can reg.

I tried again last night, to register, still getting same "illegal operation"
hummm....oh well....spend my few $$ elsewhere...
When I get that error I also can not get to site to all anyone.
That is too much trouble to type all that in 4+ times...errrr

 

[KasinoKing]

I agree with gfkostas. The problem here is 32 Red seem to be dissuading both types of players because their sign-up bonus is so totally crap.
Anyone vaguely bonus-hunterish will just laugh & go elsewhere. (No bad thing )
But a non-bonus-hunting player looking for all the good things that I have no doubt 32 Red offers, will also be put off by the ludicrous terms of this SUB!

Unless it is very easy to opt out of (I haven't checked), they would be a lot better off just scrapping this SUB altogether!

But having said that - if 78 other MG operators can offer something a little more sensible to attract new custom - why can't 32 Red?

 

[DeMango]

I'm sorry Simmo but the fact is this: The bonus offer s**ks for a thinking human being! The offer is ridiculous, the variance at $50 hands will kill you! Just got a reup bonus from FL last week: 50% on upto $1500 deposit with a 10X wagerthrough (d+b) with only craps and roulette excluded. Can you say Autoplay at $1-$2 a hand at BJ?
That's 7 casinos (Grandmaster), I'm sure from Cryptos to other MG groups (VPL) to almost all Boss outfits you can easily find 50-100 better casinos as far as bonus, fair WR are concerned. My personal favorite is the betting limits & bonus of Will Hill. Their $40 monthly is not a lot of money but the terms are reasonable. I love FL because of the table game variety (not a slot slut). Check out their new French Roulette with en prison rule!
I note many agreements to the above thread here. It's called "Calling a spade, a spade)". I am not a bonus whore but I will not enter this garbage offer. I may someday play this casino if the baccarat is less than $10 a hand (unlike FL) so let me know. And trust me the present bonus offer would be refused!

 

[Simmo!]

I'm sorry Simmo but the fact is this: The bonus offer s**ks for a thinking human being!

You may be right DM

All I was saying really was that i think people should look beyond a one-off bonus when looking for a casino to play regular. Especially as bonuses won't be around for much longer IMHO anyway.

Plus, and without meaning to sound condescending, i doubt whether a player who takes a signup bonus seriously is a player that a casino really values, so why should they really offer great "terms"? Bonuses, as i understand it, are really there so people get a chance to play the games and check out the casino, not so they can win and run. This behaviour is exactly why i think signup bonuses will soon be gone from the reputable casinos in the industry.

In fact, personally i think casinos have a moral obligation to remove signup bonuses. Not that this is worth debating, but i think a lot (not all!) of people who are the type to try a casino because of its bonus are also the type of person who will chase their losses a bit too hard. But anyway, thats for another day...

The real "bonuses" should come from a casino with loyalty. Just as an example: 32Red give me a Club Rouge bonus of $132 every month. No wagering terms attached to the bonus per-se other than i must have deposited at least that, and before i withdraw the actual $132 must have wagered $3500. As this is my regular casino, thats all met by day 3 or 4 normally so its a bonus freebie.

 

[chuchu59]

[The real "bonuses" should come from a casino with loyalty. Just as an example: 32Red give me a Club Rouge bonus of $132 every month. No wagering terms attached to the bonus per-se other than i must have deposited at least that, and before i withdraw the actual $132 must have wagered $3500. As this is my regular casino, thats all met by day 3 or 4 normally so its a bonus freebie.[

Isnt wagering $3500 to cashing out a $132 bonus equivalent to a wagering term?

 

[Slotster!]

I was going to mention the Club Rouge thing.. There was a lot of complaining about why casino's go mad on enticing new players, but don't reward regular players so handsomely. 132 match every single month is surely one of the best in the business?... I'd be interested to see if any US players do sign up, and hear your opinions!

 

[Simmo!]

Isnt wagering $3500 to cashing out a $132 bonus equivalent to a wagering term?

Yes it is - but my point is if you are a loyal player and hence qualify for Club Rouge then you are wagering this each month anyway so the $132 is just a nice extra. Its a sensible bonus in that it rewards the regulars rather than the cut-and-run brigade. What would probably be termed "good business practice"

Also, it doesnt stop you taking out your winnings off the bonus anytime as i understand it. One minor gripe is that they say Club Rouge members get regular promotions ("check back here for more details" on the CR page) - but i've not seen one yet

To sum up my posts as its all getting a bit fragmented - i regard 32Red as the best casino (IMHO) for regular players, though not for bonus hunters.

 

[DeMango]

Okay Mr Simmo, so now you interest me (us). This regular bonus - is it tied to a 5% average bet? I love craps and baccarat - restrictions? Betting limits on the two games? Single deck (Classic) BJ?

 

[Simmo!]

Okay Mr Simmo, so now you interest me (us). This regular bonus - is it tied to a 5% average bet? I love craps and baccarat - restrictions? Betting limits on the two games? Single deck (Classic) BJ?

No average bet sizes. Just that Sic Bo, Craps or Roulette dont count to the $3500 wagering. Everything else is ok and assuming you've met the $3500 already you can play the bonus on any game you like as far as i'm aware.

But I'd suggest dont take the bonus til you've wagered $3500 in the month then you get zero restrictions and unlimited withdrawals. $3500 is easy anyway - I generally do that off a couple of hundred bucks no sweat and then i'll take the bonus later in the month when i'm cash-unrich

 

[gfkostas]

You may be right DM

All I was saying really was that i think people should look beyond a one-off bonus when looking for a casino to play regular. Especially as bonuses won't be around for much longer IMHO anyway.

I beleive that online casinos won't stop bonuses because it's the main thing that might attracts new 'fishes'.I like the idea of getting bonus due to my loyalty.I wouldn't play as I do without bonuses because I always feel that no matter if i win or lose the games might be 'fixed'.I would never bet serious ammount of money online and i think many of us wouldn't when a landbased casino is accesible.I trust online casinos fairness but I don't TRUST them.I can't trust any online casino to a degree that will make me bet 1 grant on black.....