32 red £20k 'freeroll'

[cheekymonkey]

What is the point of this freeroll when clearly the leaders are buying their way to the top?

I just don't get it and what's with the 999 continues?

 

[Jakestar]

Agreed. Only purpose those MG freerolls serve me is to kill time when I've busted out at Guts.

 

[cheekymonkey]

It's pointless, it's the same leaders nearly every time.

May I be the first to congratulate VWM on the £4k, even though there are still 9 days to go.

Well done mate, don't spend it all at once!

 

[Jono777]

agree to whole thread lol

They should do either no re-buys or totally free, not for all tourneys just one here n there.

Not sure which casinos it was linked to but Digimedia (Jackpot City / Lucky Nugget etc) used to do monthly IR tourney with 20 free re-buys each, totally fair n square

 

[dunover]

It's pointless, it's the same leaders nearly every time.

May I be the first to congratulate VWM on the £4k, even though there are still 9 days to go.

Well done mate, don't spend it all at once!

With the money he's spent 'buying' first prize, he won't have much left to spend anyway...

It's a ridiculous concept of a tournament, 999 continues. All it does it attract people who have the time and funds to play and spend a 4-figure sum chasing a relatively small profit. The only reason Vinyl sees it as low risk is that there are but a few others who choose to do the same as him - therefore guaranteeing him at least most of his money back if not a profit.

Should there be say 10 people who all copied him, he'd never do it again as there would be far less chance of a placing which would pay a profit.

 

[Tirilej]

As long as they make money on them and the players want them then they will have them

The rest of us can just keep on complaining about them I guess. I don't bother playing them either. It's just frustrating if you get a good score at the start but then know you can't afford to keep it.

So let them have them and ask for other tournaments instead.
We do have the Daily there and that is a great and fair tournament.

Maybe there is time for a special CM-Tourney again though?

 

[cheekymonkey]

With the money he's spent 'buying' first prize, he won't have much left to spend anyway...

It's a ridiculous concept of a tournament, 999 continues. All it does it attract people who have the time and funds to play and spend a 4-figure sum chasing a relatively small profit. The only reason Vinyl sees it as low risk is that there are but a few others who choose to do the same as him - therefore guaranteeing him at least most of his money back if not a profit.

Should there be say 10 people who all copied him, he'd never do it again as there would be far less chance of a placing which would pay a profit.

Yup, good point.

A freeroll should be just that though, this is not a freeroll by any means. It should be called 20k guaranteed or something, as it's very misleading and will inevitably pull some poor suckers in after they hit a modest win with their free entry.

Come on 32 red, play fair!

 

[dunover]

As long as they make money on them and the players want them then they will have them

The rest of us can just keep on complaining about them I guess. I don't bother playing them either. It's just frustrating if you get a good score at the start but then know you can't afford to keep it.

So let them have them and ask for other tournaments instead.
We do have the Daily there and that is a great and fair tournament.

Maybe there is time for a special CM-Tourney again though?

Yes, that's my attitude too!

Have you seen those new tourneys with the yellow logo by them, the 'player prize pot' ones?

There was one finished today with $2 for the first prize, and only FOUR entrants each paid 60c!

 

[Tirilej]

Yes, that's my attitude too!

Have you seen those new tourneys with the yellow logo by them, the 'player prize pot' ones?

There was one finished today with $2 for the first prize, and only FOUR entrants each paid 60c!

Nope, for the simple reason that I would never pay a cent for a tournament
If I have money to play I choose my normal games and don't even play the freerolls.

Some like them so let them have it. Some are the casinos and some are MG's. I don't care to be honest

 

[xxshepxx]

Bit of a farce really, it dangles a carrot in front of people,

ButlersBingo has the best tourney, if you deposit that week you are entered into a one shot tournament, I've placed well a couple of times, and won £50

The MG ones are impossible due to high rollers strangling the fun out of it, at least at butlers everyone who plays has the same chance.

 

[vinylweatherman]

With the money he's spent 'buying' first prize, he won't have much left to spend anyway...

It's a ridiculous concept of a tournament, 999 continues. All it does it attract people who have the time and funds to play and spend a 4-figure sum chasing a relatively small profit. The only reason Vinyl sees it as low risk is that there are but a few others who choose to do the same as him - therefore guaranteeing him at least most of his money back if not a profit.

Should there be say 10 people who all copied him, he'd never do it again as there would be far less chance of a placing which would pay a profit.

This is actually true. It may also be the case that if only 100 continues were allowed, there would be many more players willing to go all the way.

In this one, first and second place guarantees a profit for 999 continues, so where no one else feels it's worth the bother, it really is an easy £1500 "earnings".

However, where is Lion? He also tends to "go for it".

On a more serious note, there has been a new bug introduced by Microgaming, two in fact.

1) When attempting to purchase a continue when there is insufficient cash available, the client freezes up with the "failed to purchase....due to unknown error". It is impossible to close the error window, close the tournament, visit the bank, or exit the client. It's a task manager only exit. Before this, running out of cash was handled properly. The rebuy or continue button would be greyed out, and the player told they had insufficient funds. It also used to be possible to mouse over the left bottom corner of the tournament screen and see the balance cash/bonus popup. This now no longer works.

2) Quite often, I get a "double purchase", in that instead of receiving 12000 coins, I receive 24000. I only receive the standard amount of time though. I have checked, and I am properly charged for both continues, and they also deduct two continues from what I have left. However, for someone else who is playing, they just see 24000 coins instead of 12000 showing up after I have run down to zero and purchased a continue. This makes it look as though I am getting double the coins for one continue, and leads to the impression that I would be unbeatable due to the bug allowing me many more coins than should be allowed in total.

I am sure that if this was raised with Microgaming, they would check my stats and say (quite rightly) that there was "nothing wrong" and that I was receiving the correct number of coins for the number of continues purchased.

I have noticed that this error seems to be related to the amount of lag on the tournament (an ever present problem that MGS simply fail to address). If the purchase is quick (no lag) I get 12000 coins, but where there is more significant lag, I seem to end up with 24000 coins a fair bit. It has never given more than 24000, not even on one occasion where the lag was SO bad that the purchase hung for a couple of minutes, and then I was booted with "connection to casino server has been lost".


MGS have at least fixed the earlier bug where it was impossible to launch a tournament from the lobby, however just in case, 32Red have put a permanent launch link to this in the lobby.

 

[The Viking]

Quite often, I get a "double purchase", in that instead of receiving 12000 coins, I receive 24000. I only receive the standard amount of time though. I have checked, and I am properly charged for both continues, and they also deduct two continues from what I have left..

maybe they are just trying to speed thinks up for you as they know you buy another continue anyway

 

[jimbob]

freeroll

got about as many wins as i do playing for free money haha so nothing different there, at least its free!!!!

 

[vinylweatherman]

maybe they are just trying to speed thinks up for you as they know you buy another continue anyway

This bug is no laughing matter though. It has been causing some discontent among other 32Red players who thought it was somehow giving me an unfair advantage through allowing me more coins than most others. There have been complaints before about players who seem to have found a way to "cheat" the MPV, but in every case MGS have said there is nothing wrong.

I am now in a position to see this for myself. There really is "nothing wrong" in terms of accounting, but when someone is looking at the scoreboard and seeing that about half the time I get a 24000 coin continue instead of 12000, how can they know that each time it happens I am not getting 12000 extra coins for one continue? This is because the scoreboard does not show the whole story. Indeed if it only showed the win box, and not the coins, this kind of thing would never be spotted. If it showed even more, then someone looking would see that the 24000 coins were from TWO continues.

In a tournament with less time, or even not enough time, something that was common even a couple of years ago, this bug would put me at a serious DISadvantage, and I would be the one sending a stiffly worded email of complaint to the casino.

The current problem is that seeing this bug in action might put other players off from even trying, and whilst it would be an easy win for me, the casino would not make as much money as expected through purchases of continues.

Hopefully, Mark will look into this so as to reassure other players that they do have a fair chance of beating me, .... if they have the £2500 needed to buy 999 continues that is

 

[sscrabble]

This is actually true. It may also be the case that if only 100 continues were allowed, there would be many more players willing to go all the way.



I have noticed that this error seems to be related to the amount of lag on the tournament (an ever present problem that MGS simply fail to address). If the purchase is quick (no lag) I get 12000 coins, but where there is more significant lag, I seem to end up with 24000 coins a fair bit. It has never given more than 24000, not even on one occasion where the lag was SO bad that the purchase hung for a couple of minutes, and then I was booted with "connection to casino server has been lost".


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You must have a hell of a fast computer considering you are suffering from lag - keeping an eye on your scoring while having lunch I saw you managing to play your 80 spins from 24000 in just over 4 minutes - it takes me nearly 3 minutes for 40 spins and I do not have any lag - or is it just the rebuys that give lag, not the play ?

 

[vinylweatherman]

You must have a hell of a fast computer considering you are suffering from lag - keeping an eye on your scoring while having lunch I saw you managing to play your 80 spins from 24000 in just over 4 minutes - it takes me nearly 3 minutes for 40 spins and I do not have any lag - or is it just the rebuys that give lag, not the play ?

Play is mostly fine, it is the process of purchasing a continue that seems to lag.

However, I do occasionally experience lag in play, including a couple of disconnects.

This PC cost a small fortune, and was bought custom made with Microgaming casinos in mind. It seems that when it comes to the simpler slots, it plays VERY fast indeed. It's not so good when the slots with the more complex and lengthy bonus rounds are used in tournaments. This is a simple "free spins" slot, and I ALWAYS select the 10 spins @ 5x, as it plays though much faster than the other options, but the TRTP of all 4 options is the same. As a general rule, I choose the fastest playing bonus round where a choice is offered.

When it comes to 32Red though, they seem to have learned to give plenty of time for ALL players to finish their coins, rather than just those with the fast PCs as has been the case in the past, and the driving force behind me buying such a high spec machine.

Fortune Lounge were notorious for having marathon tournaments with up to 999 continues, although mostly less, with too many coins for even the fastest PC to reliably get through. This gave anyone willing to splash the cash on a fast PC an advantage over the rest, although it seems that several players decided to take this route.

I am out of the game now due to UK gambling laws, so the Fortune Lounge and Belle Rock marathon tournaments are no longer open to me.


It seems that casinos run these 999 continue events because it allows the few to "buy" their way to the top, even when this results in an overall loss. It seems that others would prefer a large number of rebuys, and very few continues, so that although some could try to buy their way to the top by using hundreds of rebuys, it would still be possible for a lucky low roller to hit big on just the ONE buy in and its continues.

 

[cheekymonkey]

I'm guessing it's costing you around £2.50 per 10,000 coins earned, so to get to where you currently are now has cost you in the region of £1500 or so, maybe more?

 

[vinylweatherman]

I'm guessing it's costing you around £2.50 per 10,000 coins earned, so to get to where you currently are now has cost you in the region of £1500 or so, maybe more?

Easily. The idea is that coming in the top 2 guarantees a profit, and the fact that it's a 999 continue ordeal means that the number of participants willing to go this far is tiny compared to the number entered. Many decide to go for the lower prizes, where there is still profit to be had.

If more players went all out for the 999 continues, most would suffer losses. If the prizes were higher, the profit potential would be greater, and so more would be going all out for the top.

An alternative format would be 999 REBUYS at £2.50 each. This might still mean that it's possible to buy first place by taking the best score of 999, but it also opens up the possibility that someone could come top with just their free entry.

With so many continues, even a 5 reel "shitstorm" isn't enough to get into the top positions where scores are already TWICE what this exceptional event would pay out. In a tournament with limited continues however, such an event would be a 99%+ certainty of victory.

I once won the Monthly Monster with a 4 reel "wild desire" netting some 300,000 coins. Continues were not necessary. The same thing, a 4 reel champagne cork popping, could win the current 100K network event BECAUSE of the limited continues, despite the large number of rebuys allowed.

 

[cheekymonkey]

Easily.

Ok, let's put it this way.

How many continues do you have left?

 

[hedgehok]

Ok, let's put it this way.

How many continues do you have left?

If he would tell me that I would calculate his current RTP and catch him if he is under ~96%

 

[cheekymonkey]

If he would tell me that I would calculate his current RTP and catch him if he is under ~96%

I'm guessing he has about 800 continues left.

 

[syntynyt]

hmm some valued infos in this post thanks

Easily. The idea is that coming in the top 2 guarantees a profit, and the fact that it's a 999 continue ordeal means that the number of participants willing to go this far is tiny compared to the number entered. Many decide to go for the lower prizes, where there is still profit to be had.

If more players went all out for the 999 continues, most would suffer losses. If the prizes were higher, the profit potential would be greater, and so more would be going all out for the top.

An alternative format would be 999 REBUYS at £2.50 each. This might still mean that it's possible to buy first place by taking the best score of 999, but it also opens up the possibility that someone could come top with just their free entry.

With so many continues, even a 5 reel "shitstorm" isn't enough to get into the top positions where scores are already TWICE what this exceptional event would pay out. In a tournament with limited continues however, such an event would be a 99%+ certainty of victory.

I once won the Monthly Monster with a 4 reel "wild desire" netting some 300,000 coins. Continues were not necessary. The same thing, a 4 reel champagne cork popping, could win the current 100K network event BECAUSE of the limited continues, despite the large number of rebuys allowed.

 

[cheekymonkey]

Hey Weatherman.

How come you currently have 105300 coins to play with? Weird....

Scrabble's not making it easy for you as well, is he?

 

[fun4all]

Hey Weatherman.

How come you currently have 105300 coins to play with? Weird....

I see this thread and go and look, vinyl currently has 140 thousand COINS according to my lobby now but I can only buy 12,000 a time. Surely that is unfair to the other players chasing the top?

EDIT : now up to to 160k!!

 

[paul7388]

The reason he has so many coins is because of the amount of rebuys.

Every time he rebuys he gets another 12,000 coins. So if he gets free spins etc. his time runs out before he uses all his coins. So every rebuy adds 12,000 coins to the amount he has left.

 

[cheekymonkey]

So he is buying the coins but not using them. What's the motive behind that then?

 

[paul7388]

So he is buying the coins but not using them. What's the motive behind that then?

He will be using them. Say you have 20,000 coins and get free spins a couple of times. By the time you play them you run out of time before using all your coins. So you rebuy and get 12,000 more coins and say 5 minutes more. Once the 5 minutes are up you have to rebuy again .Each time he rebuys it keeps adding coins to what he had left .

But you only get so much time and if you get bonus rounds you use very few coins. Remember he probably ends up using the whole 999 continues by end of tournament.

 

[fun4all]

Say you have 20,000 coins and get free spins a couple of times. By the time you play them you run out of time before using all your coins

This is not true in this tournament, there is plenty of time. I've used 20 continues and you get 12 mins per continue and its more than enough time to play out loads of free spin rounds.

To me it looks like vinyl Is buying 12,000 coins at a time and not choosing to play them at all at the minute.

 

[cheekymonkey]

This is not true in this tournament, there is plenty of time. I've used 20 continues and you get 12 mins per continue and its more than enough time to play out loads of free spin rounds.

To me it looks like vinyl Is buying 12,000 coins at a time and not choosing to play them at all at the minute.

Exactly. Either he has the lost the plot or he is off out for the evening and leaving it on autoplay, but free spins would halt the auto play.

Strange.

Edit: Maybe he is trying to intimidate sscrabble?

 

[Tirilej]

Exactly. Either he has the lost the plot or he is off out for the evening and leaving it on autoplay, but free spins would halt the auto play.

Strange.

Edit: Maybe he is trying to intimidate sscrabble?

If you go back one page in this very thread then he is telling the reason why he have that many coins.
He is getting the double almost each time, and pay for them too, but he don't get more time to play than for one.

 

[cheekymonkey]

If you go back one page in this very thread then he is telling the reason why he have that many coins.
He is getting the double almost each time, and pay for them too, but he don't get more time to play than for one.

I have a very slow old pc and play out my 12000 coins in about 4 or 5'mins though.

It doesn't add up.

 

[fun4all]

If you go back one page in this very thread then he is telling the reason why he have that many coins.
He is getting the double almost each time, and pay for them too, but he don't get more time to play than for one.

This is way more than double coins though its like 20x coins

 

[muziq]

just relax guys this happens for a number of reason for example i was playing the tourney

i set on auto play and i got a call when i come back after 15 mins i saw fresspin was triggered and i had still 11000 coins

then i have to rebuy cus time was out when i rebuyed lobby shows 12000+11000 coins

so things like this can happen .... i played a lot of tourneys and im sure its fair ... u jus need the guts to go and time and patience thats all

 

[fun4all]

Yeah muziq you are right I am sure cheers

 

[cheekymonkey]

Anyway, whatever the reason, this is not a freeroll by any means as no-one has a chance of winning a top prize with their free entry.

It's a £20k guaranteed tourney and it shouldn't be advertised as a freeroll.

-1 32red!!

 

[vinylweatherman]

Exactly. Either he has the lost the plot or he is off out for the evening and leaving it on autoplay, but free spins would halt the auto play.

Strange.

Edit: Maybe he is trying to intimidate sscrabble?

Finally

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

Anyway, whatever the reason, this is not a freeroll by any means as no-one has a chance of winning a top prize with their free entry.

It's a £20k guaranteed tourney and it shouldn't be advertised as a freeroll.

-1 32red!!

You do!!!!! Just hit 5 wilds or scatter on several spins so Freeroll is correct. It is the same with poker freerolls here you can also win but can pay for add ons or sometimes rebuys.

 

[dunover]

Finally

Yes, I was going to use that exact word! It's the jungle, and Vinyl has left his scent on the trail in the form of a huge steaming pile of dung. The animal following sees the huge dung heap and thinks "f*cking big beast up ahead, methinks I'll change trails now and steer clear of it's path."

 

[vinylweatherman]

just relax guys this happens for a number of reason for example i was playing the tourney

i set on auto play and i got a call when i come back after 15 mins i saw fresspin was triggered and i had still 11000 coins

then i have to rebuy cus time was out when i rebuyed lobby shows 12000+11000 coins

so things like this can happen .... i played a lot of tourneys and im sure its fair ... u jus need the guts to go and time and patience thats all

Exactly.

This is more or less a strategy of intimidation. The time allowed is very generous, it's possible to play at least 24000 coins in the allowed 12 minutes, so provided I have enough continues left, I can play off all those coins.

The way to build such a stack is simple. Buy a continue as normal, and take 1 or 2 spins. This sets the clock going, and 12 minutes later come back and buy another 12000 coins and repeat until the desired stack has been obtained, and in terms of effect evidenced by this thread, that time has come

This particular tournament is buggy as hell. The attempt by Microgaming to fix the 24000 coin bug has not only failed (same bug now, just manifests in a different manner), it has introduced crippling lag in the purchase process, sometimes SO crippling that after waiting for a minute or more for the server to verify the purchase, I get "failed to purchase due to unknown error" and have to try again.

I am now getting the oddity that after playing for about 15 to 30 seconds, I will get a "reset" back to 12 minutes and another 12000 coins added, with the reels freezing for a few seconds to warn me this is about to occur, which is what I mean by "same bug, just manifests differently". Sometimes, instead of getting 12000 extra coins after a few seconds play, I get the "failed to purchase" message instead, but I am already playing my SUCCESSFULLY purchased continue

The lengthy lag of the purchase process contrasts sharply with almost no lag in gameplay, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong here, and Microgaming need to take another look. I believe they have "bodged" something in the hope of fixing the initial 24000 coins bug, but have not properly investigated WHY it's happening, hence the bodge has merely altered the manifestation of the bug, rather than fixing it, and seems to have created new problems.

I have also uninstalled and reinstalled 32Red casino, and it has made no difference, the bugs remain.

 

[fun4all]

I had a few continues to start with just to see if I got something ridiculous like a 4 or 5 reel wildstorm - don't know what I was thinking those things are just a rumour!

 

[sscrabble]

Exactly.

This is more or less a strategy of intimidation. The time allowed is very generous, it's possible to play at least 24000 coins in the allowed 12 minutes, so provided I have enough continues left, I can play off all those coins.

The way to build such a stack is simple. Buy a continue as normal, and take 1 or 2 spins. This sets the clock going, and 12 minutes later come back and buy another 12000 coins and repeat until the desired stack has been obtained, and in terms of effect evidenced by this thread, that time has come

This particular tournament is buggy as hell. The attempt by Microgaming to fix the 24000 coin bug has not only failed (same bug now, just manifests in a different manner), it has introduced crippling lag in the purchase process, sometimes SO crippling that after waiting for a minute or more for the server to verify the purchase, I get "failed to purchase due to unknown error" and have to try again.

I am now getting the oddity that after playing for about 15 to 30 seconds, I will get a "reset" back to 12 minutes and another 12000 coins added, with the reels freezing for a few seconds to warn me this is about to occur, which is what I mean by "same bug, just manifests differently". Sometimes, instead of getting 12000 extra coins after a few seconds play, I get the "failed to purchase" message instead, but I am already playing my SUCCESSFULLY purchased continue

The lengthy lag of the purchase process contrasts sharply with almost no lag in gameplay, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong here, and Microgaming need to take another look. I believe they have "bodged" something in the hope of fixing the initial 24000 coins bug, but have not properly investigated WHY it's happening, hence the bodge has merely altered the manifestation of the bug, rather than fixing it, and seems to have created new problems.

I have also uninstalled and reinstalled 32Red casino, and it has made no difference, the bugs remain.

I suppose I have to ask - are these bugs giving you any advantage - in other words , can you purchase more than 1000 games, or through the faults will you actually end up having more than 12000000 coins to spend in total for the game ?

 

[fun4all]

I suppose I have to ask - are these bugs giving you any advantage

Thing is (and I am SURE there is no advantage to vinyl he is an honest guy) - but the thing is, if there WAS a way to glean an advantage somehow with more coins why would anyone admit it on a public gambling forum? Especially one where his competitor is watching!

 

[vinylweatherman]

I suppose I have to ask - are these bugs giving you any advantage - in other words , can you purchase more than 1000 games, or through the faults will you actually end up having more than 12000000 coins to spend in total for the game ?

As far as I can see, no advantage.

Despite this new manifestation, I am still finding that each batch of 12000 coins is properly charged and removed from the count of available continues.

I also saw YOU with some 23700 coins at one point today, so you may also have fallen victim to this bug.


There is, of course, the currently unknown way these bugs might manifest when I reach zero continues remaining. Normally, the purchase button gets greyed out at this point, but it's just possible that as with the current bug managing to bypass the checks, it might add a second continue to allow a total of 1001 sessions due to bypassing a check on the counter as it clearly already bypasses the check on whether a successfully purchased continue already exists.

I feel that it's the excessive lag in the purchase process that is causing this bug to be a problem, the server is SO slow that it's managing to respond to a subsequent click as well as the click that successfully purchased a continue, and doing so because it has issued a continue, but is so slow that when the second click is dealt with, the checks still show that no continue already exists. The way the second set of coins gets added some 15 to 30 seconds into the play of the purchased continue, when it should already be "bleedin' obvious" to the server that I am currently a few spins and seconds into playing a fresh continue, suggests that lag on the server is a key issue when it comes to the bugs on this tournament.

The internet can't be the problem because the server manages to deal with the in game spin requests quickly, yet it can take a minute or more to process, and sometime reject "for unknown reason", a purchase of a continue.

 

[sscrabble]

As far as I can see, no advantage.

Despite this new manifestation, I am still finding that each batch of 12000 coins is properly charged and removed from the count of available continues.

I also saw YOU with some 23700 coins at one point today, so you may also have fallen victim to this bug.


There is, of course, the currently unknown way these bugs might manifest when I reach zero continues remaining. Normally, the purchase button gets greyed out at this point, but it's just possible that as with the current bug managing to bypass the checks, it might add a second continue to allow a total of 1001 sessions due to bypassing a check on the counter as it clearly already bypasses the check on whether a successfully purchased continue already exists.

I feel that it's the excessive lag in the purchase process that is causing this bug to be a problem, the server is SO slow that it's managing to respond to a subsequent click as well as the click that successfully purchased a continue, and doing so because it has issued a continue, but is so slow that when the second click is dealt with, the checks still show that no continue already exists. The way the second set of coins gets added some 15 to 30 seconds into the play of the purchased continue, when it should already be "bleedin' obvious" to the server that I am currently a few spins and seconds into playing a fresh continue, suggests that lag on the server is a key issue when it comes to the bugs on this tournament.

The internet can't be the problem because the server manages to deal with the in game spin requests quickly, yet it can take a minute or more to process, and sometime reject "for unknown reason", a purchase of a continue.

It did happen to me just the once yesterday afternoon. I have been having the same trouble buying games for the last few hours - why would it suddenly start after a week? (although the lag when making a purchase has been 10 seconds or so for the last couple of days, whereas it was instantaneaus before they presumably 'fixed it') - I keep getting the 'unable to purchase ' message so can take 15 minutes to buy a game !- very frustrating.

You can understand my concern that you might , through no fault of your own, be gaining extra spins - looks like 5 or 6 players going for all the games, so potentially a £1500 loss if it goes pear shaped- it is not great when you cannot be confident that the game is giving the correct number of spins to everyone - microgaming need to get their house in order !!

 

[cheekymonkey]

You do!!!!! Just hit 5 wilds or scatter on several spins so Freeroll is correct. It is the same with poker freerolls here you can also win but can pay for add ons or sometimes rebuys.

You would need to hit 5 full reels of wild symbols 5 times to pass the leader - you would have more chance of winning the lottery.

 

[fun4all]

 

[vinylweatherman]

It did happen to me just the once yesterday afternoon. I have been having the same trouble buying games for the last few hours - why would it suddenly start after a week? (although the lag when making a purchase has been 10 seconds or so for the last couple of days, whereas it was instantaneaus before they presumably 'fixed it') - I keep getting the 'unable to purchase ' message so can take 15 minutes to buy a game !- very frustrating.

You can understand my concern that you might , through no fault of your own, be gaining extra spins - looks like 5 or 6 players going for all the games, so potentially a £1500 loss if it goes pear shaped- it is not great when you cannot be confident that the game is giving the correct number of spins to everyone - microgaming need to get their house in order !!

I had this just now. However, the last time I had REAL problems purchasing I saw you and 3 others merrily purchasing away with no problem.

It really should be as instantaneous as the spins, but I find that it's almost like the "unable to purchase" message is a timeout problem rather than an actual problem. It seems the client or server just gives up after about 30 seconds to a minute, and if a purchase hasn't been processed it issues the error. I fail to see how "unknown reason" constitutes a valid error response from supposedly well written software. It's either an amateur piece of code from one of the premier games developers, or it's an error that hasn't even been considered as possible, hence it has not been properly trapped and issued with a code (like "casino error 2" for example).

It is significantly worse after the supposed fix for the 24000 coin bug, as with the bug in it's original form, it was fairly easy and quick to purchase successive continues.

It seems as though the 32Red tournament server just can't cope with the load of this key tournament alongside the regular freerolls. I am not seeing a great deal of action on the 20K at present, just me trying and 3 others playing in the top 17.

 

[fun4all]

I am not seeing a great deal of action on the 20K at present, just me trying and 3 others playing in the top 17.

I am not in the top 17 but I am trying to purchase a continue just now, I cannot get one at all. I have restarted computer twice, cleared cookies and been trying for at least 20 mins now but not a single one can be bought. Always unknown error. Can you buy one at all at the moment?

 

[kavaman]

I dont really have a doubht in my mind that someone would get more coins then another one. Microgaming tournaments have been buggy and laggy since they started , and also some places have run tournaments poorly when all players were unable to use all of their tokens, because they put so little amount of time to use the coins. At 32red the tournaments they run in house give enought time to use all the continues so no-one gains an unfair edge over another players.

I still like mg tournaments, and have been playing them for a very long time. Btw i think nearly all top 5 players are here from casinomeister... im also in top5. I am also unable to buy continues , i hope it gets fixed soon.

 

[vinylweatherman]

It seems like this is a general outage, rather than just isolated players unable to buy further continues. This of course also explains why I see so little activity whilst I am staring at the screen waiting for "unknown error" to pop up.

Are you all playing through 32Red, as opposed to through Dash or any of the other sisters?