32 red £20k 'freeroll'

[cheekymonkey]

So he is buying the coins but not using them. What's the motive behind that then?

 

[paul7388]

So he is buying the coins but not using them. What's the motive behind that then?

He will be using them. Say you have 20,000 coins and get free spins a couple of times. By the time you play them you run out of time before using all your coins. So you rebuy and get 12,000 more coins and say 5 minutes more. Once the 5 minutes are up you have to rebuy again .Each time he rebuys it keeps adding coins to what he had left .

But you only get so much time and if you get bonus rounds you use very few coins. Remember he probably ends up using the whole 999 continues by end of tournament.

 

[fun4all]

Say you have 20,000 coins and get free spins a couple of times. By the time you play them you run out of time before using all your coins

This is not true in this tournament, there is plenty of time. I've used 20 continues and you get 12 mins per continue and its more than enough time to play out loads of free spin rounds.

To me it looks like vinyl Is buying 12,000 coins at a time and not choosing to play them at all at the minute.

 

[cheekymonkey]

This is not true in this tournament, there is plenty of time. I've used 20 continues and you get 12 mins per continue and its more than enough time to play out loads of free spin rounds.

To me it looks like vinyl Is buying 12,000 coins at a time and not choosing to play them at all at the minute.

Exactly. Either he has the lost the plot or he is off out for the evening and leaving it on autoplay, but free spins would halt the auto play.

Strange.

Edit: Maybe he is trying to intimidate sscrabble?

 

[Tirilej]

Exactly. Either he has the lost the plot or he is off out for the evening and leaving it on autoplay, but free spins would halt the auto play.

Strange.

Edit: Maybe he is trying to intimidate sscrabble?

If you go back one page in this very thread then he is telling the reason why he have that many coins.
He is getting the double almost each time, and pay for them too, but he don't get more time to play than for one.

 

[cheekymonkey]

If you go back one page in this very thread then he is telling the reason why he have that many coins.
He is getting the double almost each time, and pay for them too, but he don't get more time to play than for one.

I have a very slow old pc and play out my 12000 coins in about 4 or 5'mins though.

It doesn't add up.

 

[fun4all]

If you go back one page in this very thread then he is telling the reason why he have that many coins.
He is getting the double almost each time, and pay for them too, but he don't get more time to play than for one.

This is way more than double coins though its like 20x coins

 

[muziq]

just relax guys this happens for a number of reason for example i was playing the tourney

i set on auto play and i got a call when i come back after 15 mins i saw fresspin was triggered and i had still 11000 coins

then i have to rebuy cus time was out when i rebuyed lobby shows 12000+11000 coins

so things like this can happen .... i played a lot of tourneys and im sure its fair ... u jus need the guts to go and time and patience thats all

 

[fun4all]

Yeah muziq you are right I am sure cheers

 

[cheekymonkey]

Anyway, whatever the reason, this is not a freeroll by any means as no-one has a chance of winning a top prize with their free entry.

It's a £20k guaranteed tourney and it shouldn't be advertised as a freeroll.

-1 32red!!

 

[vinylweatherman]

Exactly. Either he has the lost the plot or he is off out for the evening and leaving it on autoplay, but free spins would halt the auto play.

Strange.

Edit: Maybe he is trying to intimidate sscrabble?

Finally

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

Anyway, whatever the reason, this is not a freeroll by any means as no-one has a chance of winning a top prize with their free entry.

It's a £20k guaranteed tourney and it shouldn't be advertised as a freeroll.

-1 32red!!

You do!!!!! Just hit 5 wilds or scatter on several spins so Freeroll is correct. It is the same with poker freerolls here you can also win but can pay for add ons or sometimes rebuys.

 

[dunover]

Finally

Yes, I was going to use that exact word! It's the jungle, and Vinyl has left his scent on the trail in the form of a huge steaming pile of dung. The animal following sees the huge dung heap and thinks "f*cking big beast up ahead, methinks I'll change trails now and steer clear of it's path."

 

[vinylweatherman]

just relax guys this happens for a number of reason for example i was playing the tourney

i set on auto play and i got a call when i come back after 15 mins i saw fresspin was triggered and i had still 11000 coins

then i have to rebuy cus time was out when i rebuyed lobby shows 12000+11000 coins

so things like this can happen .... i played a lot of tourneys and im sure its fair ... u jus need the guts to go and time and patience thats all

Exactly.

This is more or less a strategy of intimidation. The time allowed is very generous, it's possible to play at least 24000 coins in the allowed 12 minutes, so provided I have enough continues left, I can play off all those coins.

The way to build such a stack is simple. Buy a continue as normal, and take 1 or 2 spins. This sets the clock going, and 12 minutes later come back and buy another 12000 coins and repeat until the desired stack has been obtained, and in terms of effect evidenced by this thread, that time has come

This particular tournament is buggy as hell. The attempt by Microgaming to fix the 24000 coin bug has not only failed (same bug now, just manifests in a different manner), it has introduced crippling lag in the purchase process, sometimes SO crippling that after waiting for a minute or more for the server to verify the purchase, I get "failed to purchase due to unknown error" and have to try again.

I am now getting the oddity that after playing for about 15 to 30 seconds, I will get a "reset" back to 12 minutes and another 12000 coins added, with the reels freezing for a few seconds to warn me this is about to occur, which is what I mean by "same bug, just manifests differently". Sometimes, instead of getting 12000 extra coins after a few seconds play, I get the "failed to purchase" message instead, but I am already playing my SUCCESSFULLY purchased continue

The lengthy lag of the purchase process contrasts sharply with almost no lag in gameplay, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong here, and Microgaming need to take another look. I believe they have "bodged" something in the hope of fixing the initial 24000 coins bug, but have not properly investigated WHY it's happening, hence the bodge has merely altered the manifestation of the bug, rather than fixing it, and seems to have created new problems.

I have also uninstalled and reinstalled 32Red casino, and it has made no difference, the bugs remain.

 

[fun4all]

I had a few continues to start with just to see if I got something ridiculous like a 4 or 5 reel wildstorm - don't know what I was thinking those things are just a rumour!

 

[sscrabble]

Exactly.

This is more or less a strategy of intimidation. The time allowed is very generous, it's possible to play at least 24000 coins in the allowed 12 minutes, so provided I have enough continues left, I can play off all those coins.

The way to build such a stack is simple. Buy a continue as normal, and take 1 or 2 spins. This sets the clock going, and 12 minutes later come back and buy another 12000 coins and repeat until the desired stack has been obtained, and in terms of effect evidenced by this thread, that time has come

This particular tournament is buggy as hell. The attempt by Microgaming to fix the 24000 coin bug has not only failed (same bug now, just manifests in a different manner), it has introduced crippling lag in the purchase process, sometimes SO crippling that after waiting for a minute or more for the server to verify the purchase, I get "failed to purchase due to unknown error" and have to try again.

I am now getting the oddity that after playing for about 15 to 30 seconds, I will get a "reset" back to 12 minutes and another 12000 coins added, with the reels freezing for a few seconds to warn me this is about to occur, which is what I mean by "same bug, just manifests differently". Sometimes, instead of getting 12000 extra coins after a few seconds play, I get the "failed to purchase" message instead, but I am already playing my SUCCESSFULLY purchased continue

The lengthy lag of the purchase process contrasts sharply with almost no lag in gameplay, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong here, and Microgaming need to take another look. I believe they have "bodged" something in the hope of fixing the initial 24000 coins bug, but have not properly investigated WHY it's happening, hence the bodge has merely altered the manifestation of the bug, rather than fixing it, and seems to have created new problems.

I have also uninstalled and reinstalled 32Red casino, and it has made no difference, the bugs remain.

I suppose I have to ask - are these bugs giving you any advantage - in other words , can you purchase more than 1000 games, or through the faults will you actually end up having more than 12000000 coins to spend in total for the game ?

 

[fun4all]

I suppose I have to ask - are these bugs giving you any advantage

Thing is (and I am SURE there is no advantage to vinyl he is an honest guy) - but the thing is, if there WAS a way to glean an advantage somehow with more coins why would anyone admit it on a public gambling forum? Especially one where his competitor is watching!

 

[vinylweatherman]

I suppose I have to ask - are these bugs giving you any advantage - in other words , can you purchase more than 1000 games, or through the faults will you actually end up having more than 12000000 coins to spend in total for the game ?

As far as I can see, no advantage.

Despite this new manifestation, I am still finding that each batch of 12000 coins is properly charged and removed from the count of available continues.

I also saw YOU with some 23700 coins at one point today, so you may also have fallen victim to this bug.


There is, of course, the currently unknown way these bugs might manifest when I reach zero continues remaining. Normally, the purchase button gets greyed out at this point, but it's just possible that as with the current bug managing to bypass the checks, it might add a second continue to allow a total of 1001 sessions due to bypassing a check on the counter as it clearly already bypasses the check on whether a successfully purchased continue already exists.

I feel that it's the excessive lag in the purchase process that is causing this bug to be a problem, the server is SO slow that it's managing to respond to a subsequent click as well as the click that successfully purchased a continue, and doing so because it has issued a continue, but is so slow that when the second click is dealt with, the checks still show that no continue already exists. The way the second set of coins gets added some 15 to 30 seconds into the play of the purchased continue, when it should already be "bleedin' obvious" to the server that I am currently a few spins and seconds into playing a fresh continue, suggests that lag on the server is a key issue when it comes to the bugs on this tournament.

The internet can't be the problem because the server manages to deal with the in game spin requests quickly, yet it can take a minute or more to process, and sometime reject "for unknown reason", a purchase of a continue.

 

[sscrabble]

As far as I can see, no advantage.

Despite this new manifestation, I am still finding that each batch of 12000 coins is properly charged and removed from the count of available continues.

I also saw YOU with some 23700 coins at one point today, so you may also have fallen victim to this bug.


There is, of course, the currently unknown way these bugs might manifest when I reach zero continues remaining. Normally, the purchase button gets greyed out at this point, but it's just possible that as with the current bug managing to bypass the checks, it might add a second continue to allow a total of 1001 sessions due to bypassing a check on the counter as it clearly already bypasses the check on whether a successfully purchased continue already exists.

I feel that it's the excessive lag in the purchase process that is causing this bug to be a problem, the server is SO slow that it's managing to respond to a subsequent click as well as the click that successfully purchased a continue, and doing so because it has issued a continue, but is so slow that when the second click is dealt with, the checks still show that no continue already exists. The way the second set of coins gets added some 15 to 30 seconds into the play of the purchased continue, when it should already be "bleedin' obvious" to the server that I am currently a few spins and seconds into playing a fresh continue, suggests that lag on the server is a key issue when it comes to the bugs on this tournament.

The internet can't be the problem because the server manages to deal with the in game spin requests quickly, yet it can take a minute or more to process, and sometime reject "for unknown reason", a purchase of a continue.

It did happen to me just the once yesterday afternoon. I have been having the same trouble buying games for the last few hours - why would it suddenly start after a week? (although the lag when making a purchase has been 10 seconds or so for the last couple of days, whereas it was instantaneaus before they presumably 'fixed it') - I keep getting the 'unable to purchase ' message so can take 15 minutes to buy a game !- very frustrating.

You can understand my concern that you might , through no fault of your own, be gaining extra spins - looks like 5 or 6 players going for all the games, so potentially a £1500 loss if it goes pear shaped- it is not great when you cannot be confident that the game is giving the correct number of spins to everyone - microgaming need to get their house in order !!

 

[cheekymonkey]

You do!!!!! Just hit 5 wilds or scatter on several spins so Freeroll is correct. It is the same with poker freerolls here you can also win but can pay for add ons or sometimes rebuys.

You would need to hit 5 full reels of wild symbols 5 times to pass the leader - you would have more chance of winning the lottery.

 

[fun4all]

 

[vinylweatherman]

It did happen to me just the once yesterday afternoon. I have been having the same trouble buying games for the last few hours - why would it suddenly start after a week? (although the lag when making a purchase has been 10 seconds or so for the last couple of days, whereas it was instantaneaus before they presumably 'fixed it') - I keep getting the 'unable to purchase ' message so can take 15 minutes to buy a game !- very frustrating.

You can understand my concern that you might , through no fault of your own, be gaining extra spins - looks like 5 or 6 players going for all the games, so potentially a £1500 loss if it goes pear shaped- it is not great when you cannot be confident that the game is giving the correct number of spins to everyone - microgaming need to get their house in order !!

I had this just now. However, the last time I had REAL problems purchasing I saw you and 3 others merrily purchasing away with no problem.

It really should be as instantaneous as the spins, but I find that it's almost like the "unable to purchase" message is a timeout problem rather than an actual problem. It seems the client or server just gives up after about 30 seconds to a minute, and if a purchase hasn't been processed it issues the error. I fail to see how "unknown reason" constitutes a valid error response from supposedly well written software. It's either an amateur piece of code from one of the premier games developers, or it's an error that hasn't even been considered as possible, hence it has not been properly trapped and issued with a code (like "casino error 2" for example).

It is significantly worse after the supposed fix for the 24000 coin bug, as with the bug in it's original form, it was fairly easy and quick to purchase successive continues.

It seems as though the 32Red tournament server just can't cope with the load of this key tournament alongside the regular freerolls. I am not seeing a great deal of action on the 20K at present, just me trying and 3 others playing in the top 17.

 

[fun4all]

I am not seeing a great deal of action on the 20K at present, just me trying and 3 others playing in the top 17.

I am not in the top 17 but I am trying to purchase a continue just now, I cannot get one at all. I have restarted computer twice, cleared cookies and been trying for at least 20 mins now but not a single one can be bought. Always unknown error. Can you buy one at all at the moment?

 

[kavaman]

I dont really have a doubht in my mind that someone would get more coins then another one. Microgaming tournaments have been buggy and laggy since they started , and also some places have run tournaments poorly when all players were unable to use all of their tokens, because they put so little amount of time to use the coins. At 32red the tournaments they run in house give enought time to use all the continues so no-one gains an unfair edge over another players.

I still like mg tournaments, and have been playing them for a very long time. Btw i think nearly all top 5 players are here from casinomeister... im also in top5. I am also unable to buy continues , i hope it gets fixed soon.

 

[vinylweatherman]

It seems like this is a general outage, rather than just isolated players unable to buy further continues. This of course also explains why I see so little activity whilst I am staring at the screen waiting for "unknown error" to pop up.

Are you all playing through 32Red, as opposed to through Dash or any of the other sisters?