€5,000 Avalon II Challenge?

[Balthazar]

I'm making this thread because it's spread all accross several threads.

I got email from ComeOn offering 5k to first 3 players with 5 wilds on any row on Avalon II, IR, TS 2 and Dark Knight. No need for the lady of the lake.

I'm not sure what's going on, it looks like several casinos are running a similar "€5,000 Avalon II" promotion at the same time independently?

I received this email from RedBet:

 

[miso]

Good idea, to start a thread.

Like the fact that I haven´t seen any minimum bet specified.

Good luck to everyone

 

[Balthazar]

Like the fact that I haven´t seen any minimum bet specified.

I'm too lazy to do it but it's possible to calculate the odds to get it with the reel strips from kktmd. With and without the lady in the middle.

 

[Jory]

Just got the same thing from 10bet.

It did not include the terms though so It doesn't interest me.

 

[Balthazar]

Just got the same thing from 10bet.

Can you paste the email here? Is it the same as RedBet or ComeOn?

 

[Jory]

Can you paste the email here? Is it the same as RedBet or ComeOn?

Matthew, have you got what it takes to reclaim the Grail and win £5000 cash?

Play our most magical game: Avalon II and you could win £5000 cash if you hit 5x Wild on any horizontal row using the Wild symbol and the Lady of the Lake expanding Wild!

The promotion starts today and ends once someone hits that magical combination. Anyone could be the lucky winner so don't miss your chance!

What's more, there are 8 bonus games to accomplish, and a maximum jackpot of 2,400,000 coins to play for.

Don't miss your chance to play for the prize - you might just live happily ever after…

 

[Patriot66]

Matthew, have you got what it takes to reclaim the Grail and win £5000 cash?

Play our most magical game: Avalon II and you could win £5000 cash if you hit 5x Wild on any horizontal row using the Wild symbol and the Lady of the Lake expanding Wild!

The promotion starts today and ends once someone hits that magical combination. Anyone could be the lucky winner so don't miss your chance!

What's more, there are 8 bonus games to accomplish, and a maximum jackpot of 2,400,000 coins to play for.

Don't miss your chance to play for the prize - you might just live happily ever after…

These are the T&C's from the 10bet website:

 

[Patriot66]

I'd be amazed if it isn't won within 2 days on most sites to be honest. A HUGE incentive given no minimum stake.

 

[Balthazar]

edited, see below

 

[zap987]

Should be 729 in 10,220,842,800 for the Wilds with Lady in the middle. Which is about 1 in 14 million spins if you need the Lady and 1 in 7 million if you don't. At minimum bet and 96% RTP, this will only cost you 168000!

 

[Balthazar]

Should be 729 in 10,220,842,800 for the Wilds with Lady in the middle. Which is about 1 in 14 million spins if you need the Lady and 1 in 7 million if you don't. At minimum bet and 96% RTP, this will only cost you 168000!

We've got different numbers here. Can you explain how you did it?

 

[Patriot66]

By it's very nature, it's not something you can 'chase'. As likely to hit it on your first spin as any other.

Point is that £5k is a decent incentive to play the slot over any other, even if it's just over the course of a normal deposit.

 

[zap987]

There are 3 ways to get a wild on reel 1, either the top, middle or bottom symbol of the three wilds. Then same for remaining reels, which gives 3*3*3*3*3 ways to get a wild on each reel, 3*3*6*3*3 if you count both wilds and Lady of the Lake on reel 3. That means there are 243 different reel stop combinations that will show a line of wilds on line 1. Same for lines 2 and 3 which gives 729 or 1458 possible ways to get the screenshot out of the 10 billion something total possible reel stops.

Your calculation is wrong in that it calculates the chance to hit a wild on a specific line, not any of the 3 that counts.

The chance to hit any wild on reel one is 5 in 79, reel 2 is 5 in 108, reel 3 is 8 in 110, reel 4 5 in 110 and reel 5 5 in 99. In total the chance to hit ANY five wilds is 5*5*8*5*5 in 78*108*110*110*99 or 1 in 2,044,000 but a lot of those combinations will not make a line good enough for the promotion.

 

[miso]

These are the T&C's from the 10bet website:

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These are the terms from Redbet -

1.General terms and conditions apply
2.Only real money game play placed on the flash game on Avalon II will qualify for the promotion.
3.Redbet reserves the right to discontinue the promotion at any time.
4.When a screenshot purporting to be a winning screenshot is submitted to Redbet, it will have seven working days from the date of receipt of the screenshot to verify the screenshot is the winner.
5.Should more than one screenshot be received, all screenshots submitted to it in order to determine which player achieved the winning screen first.
6.The start date of this promotion is the 17th of March 2014, screenshots submitted before 17th March 2014 and after the prize is won will not qualify.
7.To win, a player needs to send a screenshot showing the winning row to Redbet to be verified as the winner of the prize. The date and time of the player’s session should also be clearly indicated on the screenshot submitted to Redbet.

..........................................

Unlike 10bet, no mention of win during play with bonus not being eligible.

 

[miso]

And this is from ComeOn -

HOW TO WIN?

The first 3 players getting "5 of a Kind Lucky Wilds" in a row on any of the games mentioned below, will win a cash prize of €5,000 each, in addition to your winnings achieved on the game:

Avalon II + Immortal Romance + Thunderstruck 2 + Dark Knight Rises

You can also find these games in our "Lucky Wilds" game bundle on the Casino start page.

We will award this prize to the first 3 players who send us a screenshot of the game with these winning symbols to [email protected] with subject line: 5 Lucky Wild



Once the win has been verified we will pay the winnings as a cash amount directly to your player'a account.



The screenshot will only be valid if it clearly shows that you are logged in and playing with real money.

ComeOn! reserves the right to cancel or modify the terms of this offer at any time

............................................

Pretty straightforward, fair play to them

 

[Balthazar]

Your calculation is wrong in that it calculates the chance to hit a wild on a specific line, not any of the 3 that counts.

You're right. There are 5 stops on reel 1,2,4 and 5 and 3 stops on reel 3 (lady).

So the odds the get the "lady" win at Redbet and 10bet are 1 in 5,182,225

It's bad, but not as bad as expected.

Edit: didn't see that it needs to be on a line.

 

[zap987]

You're right. There are 5 stops on reel 1,2,4 and 5 and 3 stops on reel 3 (lady).

So the odds the get the "lady" win at Redbet and 10bet are 1 in 5,182,225

It's bad, but not as bad as expected.

No, the chance to get that is 1 in 14 million as I said in my first post. If you get a wild on reel 1, but not the whole reel, then there are less than 5 stops for the following reels since it needs to be on a line. What you calculated is the chance to get any 5 wilds with the lady showing.

 

[Balthazar]

No, the chance to get that is 1 in 14 million as I said in my first post. If you get a wild on reel 1, but not the whole reel, then there are less than 5 stops for the following reels since it needs to be on a line. What you calculated is the chance to get any 5 wilds with the lady showing.

Holy crap I completely missed the part that it needs to be on a horizontal line! That's just ridiculous now.

I've got a question here...If I make a $100 deposit and play at $0.30 a spin, I believe that I should average 2800 spins before busting out, but what's the exact formula to calculate that?

 

[mcgameboy]

I'm making this thread because it's spread all accross several threads.




I'm not sure what's going on, it looks like several casinos are running a similar "€5,000 Avalon II" promotion at the same time independently?

I saw this promo on Vegas Palms (within the download casino client) just before midnight Sunday, but I did get an e-mail about it as early as Thursday (I think it was Thursday anyway)....but I haven't seen it on any of the other four Fortune Lounge casinos that I have an account with (Euro Palace, Platinum Play, Royal Vegas and 7 Sultans).

All Slots appeared to have launched their own version on Monday (no sign of a popup anytime I was logged in on Sunday, but it came up on my first login on Monday).

I do not know of any other casinos that have a promotion for this apart from what has already been shown on this thread.

The question I want to ask is this....why has this competition been introduced?

Is there a lack of interest/positive feedback among the playing community with regard to Avalon II? And if so.....

Are Microgaming "panicking" that their latest big new shiny slot (that they put 2 years of work into) is not proving to be the lucrative money maker they hoped it would be and are now coming up with a "desperate measure" to generate some interest in the game? The negative feedback from a sizeable portion of the membership of this forum (and possibly other fora) would suggest that this slot is not anywhere near as popular as Microgaming had hoped it would be and is (perhaps) in danger of becoming a giant wasteful "own goal". £5,000 is basically the equivalent of getting 5 stacked wilds (or 4 stacked plus lady of the lake) on a 30p bet (£4,860). That's a pretty big prize for hitting something that could be as little as a £60 win on a 30p bet.

 

[Patriot66]

It is a slightly weird promo but interesting too. Not dissimilar to the recent rewards for completing IR/TSII achievements.

Suppose it's just designed to get more turnover in the casino. Not sure it will. The RTP of Avalon II is basically the same as any other slot so the only benefit to the casino is people playing when they ordinarily wouldn't rather than (as I expect) just playing Avalon II rather than another slot on the site.

In fact, it could reduce turnover as players playing £/$3 a spin may reduce their stake until the £5k is won.

It's certainly better than these turnover races that seem to be en vogue at the moment.

Any promo that sounds like it's been thought about is fine with me!

 

[mcgameboy]

It is a slightly weird promo but interesting too. Not dissimilar to the recent rewards for completing IR/TSII achievements.

Suppose it's just designed to get more turnover in the casino. Not sure it will. The RTP of Avalon II is basically the same as any other slot so the only benefit to the casino is people playing when they ordinarily wouldn't rather than (as I expect) just playing Avalon II rather than another slot on the site.

In fact, it could reduce turnover as players playing £/$3 a spin may reduce their stake until the £5k is won.

It's certainly better than these turnover races that seem to be en vogue at the moment.

Any promo that sounds like it's been thought about is fine with me!

I speak as someone who is wary of Avalon II but likes it "just enough" to want to play it on occasion. IR and TS2 will always be my favourite 243 ways slots. But a promo like this would certainly get me "more interested" in playing it more often. For that alone, the promo is a good thing. And it's great that low rollers have a shot too. I'll certainly give it a try.

You made a great point about the potential for the turnover to be reduced rather than increased.

 

[tinybettor]

Is anyone here still playing this slot? I'm gathering that it hasn't been as popular as they wanted.

 

[lockinlove]

Obviously its a ploy to get more people playing this since its such a piece of garbage slot.

2 years it took to make it. And when they reviewed how much traffic its getting, they saw the massive fail.

Heres a suggestion. Stop making money sucking crappy slots.

Cool graphics are nice but so is having a reasonable chance of hitting something.

 

[naththo]

Not really. I had no issue problem with Avalon II the payout is very reliable even hard to win. It still give me 90-100% payout rate overall from base game and bonus game. It is not really money sucking. Probably more reliable than Immortal Romance and The Finer Reel. Immortal Romance and The Finer Reel is terrible it sucks your money so fast.

 

[Jory]

The promotion may already be won. There is no way to tell as it says it will take 8 days from submitting the screen shot before you find out if you won. During those 8 days people will still be chasing the big hit and many could land the same win .

Imagin having to wait 8 days only to be told you haven't won. Although the odds are in the millions, the amount of casinos running the promotion means a million spins will be turned over in no time.

Don't get too excited about £5000 if you land 5 wilds, chances are someone beat you to it.

 

[Balthazar]

Cool graphics are nice but so is having a reasonable chance of hitting something.

My problems with it are the capped bonus rounds and the absence of a potentially high paying secondary feature (ie: Wild Desire). It makes it impossible to win anything substantial outside of lining up a bunch of wilds in the base game, which is extremely unlikely since most of the RTP is distributed on small wins.

It's a low variance slot with a few massive hits well hidden in there. Not my cup of tea.

Imagin having to wait 8 days only to be told you haven't won. Although the odds are in the millions, the amount of casinos running the promotion means a million spins will be turned over in no time.

Since casinos are running a slightly different promotion, I'd assume that there's a €5,000 prize for each casino.

 

[mrmark21]

The promotion may already be won. There is no way to tell as it says it will take 8 days from submitting the screen shot before you find out if you won. During those 8 days people will still be chasing the big hit and many could land the same win .

Imagin having to wait 8 days only to be told you haven't won. Although the odds are in the millions, the amount of casinos running the promotion means a million spins will be turned over in no time.

Don't get too excited about £5000 if you land 5 wilds, chances are someone beat you to it.

Sounds like a terrible promotion to me

 

[maphesto]

Obviously this is a promotion to make players use the new videoslot. The thing is that players can't know if the promotion still is live when they click "spin".

It has to be seen as a RJ at RTG. Don't chase it, but choose the machines with high RJ's in case you win.

It's a smart promotion, they will definately increase their spins on this particular slot machine the next few days. Some players who haven't been that lucky on Avalon II might win some and begin to like it.

 

[dionysus]

No, the chance to get that is 1 in 14 million as I said in my first post. If you get a wild on reel 1, but not the whole reel, then there are less than 5 stops for the following reels since it needs to be on a line. What you calculated is the chance to get any 5 wilds with the lady showing.

I'll just buy a couple local lottery tickets for a couple bucks. Odds are 1 in 14 million, but the prize is several million v 5k. I mean, did anyone even win the Avalon I challenge from January?

 

[Nate]

Well look at it this way - If you were going to play Avalon II to begin with, see as a nice little prize if you manage to accomplish getting 5 horizontal wilds ...

If not, don't chase and go on with your session as intended. NetEnt also runs these promos to bulk up the number of spins on their slots. You will notice how a few places offer Free Spins on the same slot.

In any event, hope someone hits it here... somewhere.

Nate

 

[Balthazar]

Obviously this is a promotion to make players use the new videoslot.

I wonder if MGS offered some type of incentives to casinos if they get more spins on Avalon II? That would explain why many different casinos came up with their own Avalon II promotion at the same time.

 

[MillyOfLeValley]

I wonder if MGS offered some type of incentives to casinos if they get more spins on Avalon II? That would explain why many different casinos came up with their own Avalon II promotion at the same time.

I would suspect so, everyone can't just be jumping on the bandwagon because its such a revolutionary promo coz its actually really crap, unless you really like playing Avalon 2 ofcourse.
Otherwise in terms of getting new players to play, I doubt they'll move much traffic by way of this promotion.
Saw it at Thrills also, but they're offering an apple pack, iphone, ipad, mac book etc as a prize

 

[quber]

I wonder if MGS offered some type of incentives to casinos if they get more spins on Avalon II? That would explain why many different casinos came up with their own Avalon II promotion at the same time.

On BetVictor they have the term '11.This is a Microgaming Network promotion and the prize is only available once across all participating operators.
'
Looks like some operators have added their own prizes to it just to boost it.

 

[rainmaker]

On BetVictor they have the term '11.This is a Microgaming Network promotion and the prize is only available once across all participating operators.
'
Looks like some operators have added their own prizes to it just to boost it.

Yes, I think the prize only is available once across all operators.

Microgaming was running a similar promotion for Avalon back in December/January:


Link Outdated / Removed

 

[Nicola]

This competition may actually break Advertising Standards Authority guidelines (in the UK at least) as punters may well be playing at these casinos when the prize could have already been won.

Also worth a point, how many people will hit the win and not even know about the competition to send a screen print to claim the extra £5k on top!

Smell of desperation from Microgaming Towers on this one

 

[jjezebel37]

Derail but there is a horse running in Grand National next week with your name....Balthazar King.

I just chucked a fiver each way on it.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

Derail but there is a horse running in Grand National next week with your name....Balthazar King.

I just chucked a fiver each way on it.

Came second not bad. I had small punt myself also on Balthazar sadly not each way lol. But u won phew quid then...

I was happy today until I wasted winnings on ShitNetDent at Bet365.......

Pineau De Re @ 26.00
£1.00 EW Single 05/04/2014 16:01:00 2.00 33.25
Pineau De Re @ 26.00
£1.00 Single 05/04/2014 15:54:47 1.00 26.00
Total for this period 59.25

Had £2 total as winner and £1 each way... Normally i would bet 5 or 10 quid each way when feeling confident what a shame