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Thread: Venetian Gold. DO NOT PLAY HERE!

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    Why on earth would he have contacted them and asked if it was OK to change betsize while playing? Julies contacts in the Las Vegas summed it up pretty well if his betting strategy was abusive or not.

    As for the danish thing. Danish players are NOT banned from the casino - they're banned from the 100% signup bonus. Only Costa Ricans are banned from the casino. If the casino handed out the bonus to Boxplayer, danes can hardly have been banned at the time when he signed up, deposited and met the initial requirement for the bonus.

    Why did they boot him - if it wasn't for the betting strategy? From their first email to Meister it seems pretty clear: The play strategy of this player is the reason the account was de-activated. The decision to exclude players from Denmark came some days later, and was not applied retrospectively to this player

    Boxplayer - I can't remember when you signed up?

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    Thank you for your work Bryan, always nice to have someone who can push some buttons!

    If I had put my entire balance down on one hand, that would have been abusive as well. And if I got a blackjack on that hand? Well who knows, maybe they'd charge me extra for being extra abusive?
    I think I'll set up a casino and invite the Venetian Gold Administration to play there. Of course I would set up
    T&C
    so I can claim any result of their play abusive, that should be quite entertaining endeed...

    -Box

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    <,Jyde

    Me neither in fact, but I always check if danes are allowed to play and receive bonusses. And we were in this case.
    And they DID boot me based on the betting strategy only. The mail quote is in my initial post.

    -Box

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    Exactly - they booted you because of the betting strategy. When they found out they would be laughed at because of this they changed it to the dane stuff.

    However - in the first mail they SPECIFICALLY said the dane rule weren't retrospectively applied to you. And IF it had been applied to you it would only have meant they pulled the bonus (that would have been a crooked thing to do - of course) - since the dane rule is only about the 100% bonus.

    A lot of contradictions - bottomline is they couldn't afford to lose a few hundred $$. Which brings us back to the topic: Venetian Gold. DO NOT PLAY HERE!

    (Message edited by jyde on February 27, 2003)

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    Absolutely - and spread the word widely. There is no doubt in my mind that they have used their own absurd unilateral interpretation of what constituted an illegal playing strategy to void Boxplayer's winnings. Remember that earlier in this thread we had the opinion of top Las Vegas pitbosses who did not find Boxplayer's playing pattern untoward at all. I very much doubt that the management at Venetian Gold are more expert than that.

    This really stinks and Venetian Gold are clearly taking a short term view of business by stiffing a player like this.

    I am quite sure they will soon feel the consequences of their actions.

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    The unlycky thing is that some people might still use www.onlineplayersassociation.co.uk without knowing that the real OPA people have left and that the OPA is now just another affiliate portal. They might think that Venetian Gold is ok because of the OPA recommendation.

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    I received a check yesterday for the full amount owed, $52. I will cash it today to make sure it doesn't bounce.

    I noticed that they are certified by the Internet Gaming Comission, and filed a dispute with them the other day. The URL for filing a dispute is http://www.internetcommission.com/dispute.asp

    Bryan

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    As mentioned elsewhere: The internetcommission is as big a joke as Venetian Gold.

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    I've never known the Internet Gaming Commission to investigate or solve a single case of a player complaint. I've never met any of these people, and they keep an extremely low profile, which is very odd in this business. As far as I'm concerned, it's a rubber stamp of approval. The OPA? Don't get me started on this one. If anyone wants to read about my involvement and my feelings about this "organization", please read my newsletter dated 10 January 2003 http://www.casinomeister.com/newslet....html#article2

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    It looks like my check cleared OK. I don't know why they paid me and not Boxplayer. I guess mine was cheaper. Because of the number of times they failed to pay me, I think they are crooks. Also, their
    BJ
    software does screw you by over 2% by not paying 3-to-2 for blackjacks. The owners call themselves Global Dip, so any casino that uses this trade name should be avoided. The following two casinos are also Global Dip: http://www.slotsandthecity.com http://www.paddysgold.com
    You should play at these casinos if you like being cheated and ripped off.
    Regarding the
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    , I sure hope nobody thinks I was trying to endorse VG by mentioning the certification. =) BTW they never responded to my complaint. Their website says that all licensed casinos are in good standing and have no pending disputes. This is an obvious lie.

    Bryan

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