Woman blames gambling debt on casino

No argument here..

I am sorry i dont wish to start an argument but this is just how little people actually kow about such addictions
You sit there and assume I don't know what I am speaking of..sorry to burst your bubble but my father was a gambler, and so IS my little brother who also lost everything..and yes, we lost our home, land, and everything of value through his addiction..I lived it....
If it was as easy as you say just to "fix" this then the world would be so god damn easy for everyone. tobacco, alcohol, drugs would not be an problem for anyone and lives would not be ruined by such addictions
Why stop at only those addictions? And then what, we ALL have some kind of ADDICTION that affects others throughout life..shoe fetishes, bingo holics, shopaholics, chargeaholics, foodaholics, binge purgers, hair pullers, nail biters, tattoo addictions, cosmetic surgery addictions, sex addicts, internet porn addicts.....etc and I could go on and on..when do we say as a country..take responsibility for your choices of addictions, take responsibility and get the help you need or do we lock them all up? We wouldn't have anyone out there to run the programs that are needed then for these addictions, for the ones that are supposed to help us have addictions too....

Everyone likes a good rush, it makes them feel ALIVE. Look at the car racers...they live to feel the speed..and they need it right to the end..to their death sometimes..do we tell them they are sick and need to get help or have the government intervene because they choose to race and thwart death every time they get into a race car for a rush? Thats almost like committing suicide on a russian roullete game...

So please stop this ignorance and try to help rather than mock these people.
You really do have it bad..nowhere have I mocked anyone...being in the position of having lived through a mother instituted in a mental home because of my fathers actions throughout my childhood for manic depression..I would be the last one to mock any REAL illness..addiction is not an illness in my opinion. it is a prolonged habit that manifests itself into something that grows beyond a persons caring or feeling due to becoming desensitized more and more to the feel they need and a need for a greater rush versus losing the feeling of caring about another persons well being..just as my father didn't care about losing everything he owned in life to get his rush, including my mother...because he had a need he wanted filled and no matter what and he had the same choices to get help too if he WANTED to and he refused to take them!

My opinion from experience is this need pertains to all addictions....we have become a society of instant gratifications...and when it fails to thrill us anymore we move on to bigger and more thrilling things..until we lose sight of ourselves and hurt the ones we love. No government can fix that...

So before you go off high and mighty on addictions, I am very well aware of them..please ask before you condemn...

Again to the post above if this was all so easy just to give up then why do governemnts spend millions of s per year putting help measures in place
To appease their conscience knowing what kind of society we have become..

So, the point I was trying to make is...addicts of every walk of life, will not get help until they feel the need to themselves..no amount of programs out there is going to help 1 person if they don't WANT the help..
 
...errmm i dont thinkso once your an compulsive gambler this will never leave you and if you do still have this why are u on an casino forum??? Sorry but lot of inaccuracies here.

I won't be as rude as you and say your comment is ridiculous, I will just call you ignorant and assume you have been brainwashed by a twelve step program.

Ignorance: Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Ignorance is sometimes misinterpreted as a synonym of stupidity, and is as thus often taken as an insult.
I am not saying you are stupid, you just don't know.

Brainwashed: (also known as thought reform or as re-education) consists of any effort aimed at instilling certain attitudes and beliefs in a person, sometimes beliefs in conflict with the person's prior beliefs and knowledge.

Twelve step programs have been shown to do more harm than good, and their 'recovery' rate is less than 'spontanious remission'. Don't let the 5% that Buchmanism has 'helped' determine your belief system about the 95% it can't.
 
I won't be as rude as you and say your comment is ridiculous, I will just call you ignorant and assume you have been brainwashed by a twelve step program.

Ignorance: Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Ignorance is sometimes misinterpreted as a synonym of stupidity, and is as thus often taken as an insult.
I am not saying you are stupid, you just don't know.

Brainwashed: (also known as thought reform or as re-education) consists of any effort aimed at instilling certain attitudes and beliefs in a person, sometimes beliefs in conflict with the person's prior beliefs and knowledge.

Twelve step programs have been shown to do more harm than good, and their 'recovery' rate is less than 'spontanious remission'. Don't let the 5% that Buchmanism has 'helped' determine your belief system about the 95% it can't.


oh dear dear..ill say very little about that post except try telling your argument to the millions of people round the world this has helped.such an sad sad post.
 
To noluckever67

Just because I like to gamble and have since stopped doesn't mean I cant go to a gambling forum. It is self will and god's will to stop your addiction. Once you love god and yourself everything else will fall into place. I know many alcoholics that stopped drinking for 30-40 years. People have addictions mainly due to something missing in their lives. They use addiction to fill the void. You have to look inside yourself to find the void. No I don't feel like once addicted always addicted. I don't feel addiction is a disease. It is a choice. Just my opinion.
 
oh dear dear..ill say very little about that post except try telling your argument to the millions of people round the world this has helped.such an sad sad post.

We're all welcome to our own opinions, but not our own facts!

Try looking Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) with an open mind (no your brains won't fall out) but your eyes might blur before reading the whole thing.

Again, the recovery rate for AA is about five percent. Spontaneous remission is greater. No treatment is better than 12 step treatment - literally!

If you wish to discuss it further, please start a thread in the wildcards section. I have many more scientific sources to offer, the 12-step argument has NONE.

Thanks and good luck:thumbsup:
 
Very good article..

Lojo, it was a very good article. I especially liked the fact that it stated.
But of course. The urge to heal oneself, to fix whatever is broken, is one of the most deep-seated basic drives in life. People will fight oppression however they can.)
And the reason that they finally quit drinking is because they really want to quit -- want it so strongly that they finally really do it. And the commonest reason for quitting is because people just get sick and tired of being sick and tired
This is the most persuasive article I have read...it almost reflects the way I believe in the acts of a person in their addictions..you must WANT to quit for ANY program, support, or whatever else is out there to work...if these things truly worked, we would have a society that would have no addictions, or repeat offenders in the choice of addiction.

I smoked for over 35 years...I quit in 2000 because I felt the need to and WANTED to. I drank like a fish for many years and I mean I drank..I quit over 20 years ago because I WANTED to...so far so good. Knowing that I might have the same tendencies as my father ( the uncontrollable need of something) ...that fear alone helps me be centered in my life...and I WANT to be free from these things..I feel the less bad habits I keep, the less likely to go to the extreme my father and brother did.

The one thing I still do is my monthly trips to a casino and online horse racing with a budget. My fear is stronger than my need. My choice is to stay free.

I am hoping others learn to get the need controlled to where they too can benefit from the relief it brings...if this helps just one person..It would be the best thing that could happen in my life time...

Thanks, for the article! Really was good.
 

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