Wild Swarm by PUSH Gaming

[Cyclops]

Has anyone played this? Thoughts?

I haven't played it yet, please let me know how you get on with the game, hope you win big

 

[nikantw]

Anybody that won in 5th level is very lucky or it pays differently in high bets.
I lost another 20k fun money in 5th level with 10-20 bet size without any win over 40x.

 

[Oscar Arnhem]

just played it again a 20c till level 5 ,than on 2$ a spin.

46 bee's later and 1250$ down ,still not the bonus

 

[KasinoKing]

just played it again a 20c till level 5 ,than on 2$ a spin.

46 bee's later and 1250$ down ,still not the bonus

It MUST be compensated. No company would be stupid enough to release a slot that is "abusable" these days.

I got my one & only Wild Swam from a chest pick on level 4 - so I'm very glad I wasn't micro-betting at the time!

KK

 

[JGslots]

I'm still not too sure. I think it could be exploited, if you found the optimum point to increase the stake when a number of bees hadn't triggered the hive or when your balance decreased by a certain level.

I could see it getting quite hairy if your up to the maximum £100 stake though.

You've got to ask yourself though, if it was that good, they'd be losing a fortune and the game would have been pulled long before now.

Rob

 

[TheAverageGuy]

Goes both ways I expect. I know the one time I filled it, probably put $400-$500 in bets $1-$3... and then it still took another 400+ spins before it went off (at a $1 bet) for a super impressive $60someodd dollars.. so you're welcome to whoever filled it with quarters and broke it with dollars... I'm the yin to your yang.

 

[Borgie]

I'm still not too sure. I think it could be exploited, if you found the optimum point to increase the stake when a number of bees hadn't triggered the hive or when your balance decreased by a certain level.

I could see it getting quite hairy if your up to the maximum £100 stake though.

You've got to ask yourself though, if it was that good, they'd be losing a fortune and the game would have been pulled long before now.

Rob

Someone above said they watched Nick slots trigger swarm on 2nd bee. I've seen people say it's been well over a 100 bees . Theres no way of predicting it. Also no guarantee of a big win . Ive seen Nick get a very v bad return on the swarm feature.

I'm convinced there is nothing abusable about this slot. It's exciting because it pays out at the stake you trigger the hive on but you could lose megabucks triggering it and then get a poor return. It's luck.

 

[steveh35]

Well you did 20p rob and won over 1000 so doesnt this say its not compensated. Maybe be aware of any future updates see if things change

 

[Borgie]

Well you did 20p rob and won over 1000 so doesnt this say its not compensated. Maybe be aware of any future updates see if things change

Surely you can't base that assumption on one result?

 

[JGslots]

Surely you can't base that assumption on one result?

Surely It's got to be compensated?

 

[Borgie]

Surely It's got to be compensated?

I agree

 

[vnk207]

While ago i played many spins on 1, 2, 4 euro and had the swarm feature at max. Did hundreds of spins on 2/4 euro's and the f**(&in swarm feature would still not activate. When my balance and money where absorbed by this, i get it on 0,40 cents. Believe me when i say that i was stupid to play high bets to get the swarm feature, the software was not random anymore and i burned 100eu, 1000eu,200eu, i think more than 1000eu.. I had nice play before i reached max of the swarm. But i really didnt get anything anymore, the slot knew that i was going for the swarm feature and was set to money eating mode. Very bad experience, watch out

 

[JGslots]

You need to look more into the morals of this slot. It's clear a large chunk of the RTP is tied up with the max swarm bonus.

So in essence, in order to get your full RTP you need to see it through to the point of getting the swarm feature.

When you look at it from a distance it actively encourages you to keep gambling, more than likely way past the point where it's still entertaining to play, chasing the feature. From a RG point of view, this isn't very good for problem gamblers.

It's such a clever, yet sinister slot. I think we may see some more of these, just because it has created so much hype and will be getting played a lot.

Rob

 

[pinnit2014]

Tried it on pounds with 100 quid left in Redbet hoping to trigger Wild Swarm. Think i got 2 bee's and had 20 quid left at the end of 100 autospins

One of those i'll try once a month and just leave it until the next month - which may be 2019

Arguably may lead to more chasing that any BTG Buy Feature

 

[slotter999]

You need to look more into the morals of this slot. It's clear a large chunk of the RTP is tied up with the max swarm bonus.

So in essence, in order to get your full RTP you need to see it through to the point of getting the swarm feature.

When you look at it from a distance it actively encourages you to keep gambling, more than likely way past the point where it's still entertaining to play, chasing the feature. From a RG point of view, this isn't very good for problem gamblers.

It's such a clever, yet sinister slot. I think we may see some more of these, just because it has created so much hype and will be getting played a lot.

Rob

I think people eventually figure this out for themselves....usually the hard way.

I don't know how many times I've stubbornly chased these token games only to be served a turd sandwich....but it's definitely enough to make me instantly close down a game as soon as I spot it.

Interesting thought about the responsible gambling angle. I wonder if the UKGC consider something like that when they write the remote gaming standards and consciously make a decision that it's ok. You have to assume they do.

 

[Playford7]

It totally promotes you to gamble more for the end goal which is the swarm. It also gives you the option to max out on minimum bets then raise to crazy stakes to active the bloody thing...
There is no way it’s exploitable, it can’t be. The amount of money people would win should they have the bankroll would be devastating to some casinos.
And also most if not all of casinos have ‘spirit of the bonus’ terms...
surerly using ‘advantage’ play if that’s what it is would breach said terms?...
Not my kind of game at all, I’ll never play it.
But very interesting none the less.

 

[sledge13]

An utter disgrace, 1000s of spins hours of play barely any bonus or wins, finally THE SWARM...pays x 35, what's the point? apart from them getting rich!!!

 

[lotusch]

I like this slot actually.
Not playing the "tactics" as many have done by low rolling and filling up the hive and then increase bets.
Have the hive on level 2 on most casinos as there was no more need to continue playing as I am well up on this slot.
Played this on 3 or 4 casinos and was lucky that the slot was always in a good mood.

Had free spins quite fast in most occasions and on 1 of the free spins I got a chest dropped for a nice 150x bet win to add to my free spin wins.
Think I got 313x on €1.00 bet.

Not gonna fill them hives as it seems you need a trillion bees and have no patience for this kind of stuff.
No guarantee for a big win and you might need to spend a couple of 1000 of spins to fill the hive & trigger it.

I like PUSH gaming slots as they are innovative, fun to play and hey they do pay from time to time.
Something some other providers do not seem to understand and producing only crap slots with crap pay tables and well basically just crap.

 

[dionysus]

I play the game like I would Vikings go Berzerk......a few spins here and there each visit

 

[Boris85]

5 scatter bonus trigger nearly 1000x... I’ll take it !

Triggered the swarm later that day at £10 pound bet (filled it up on 4-10 pounds) I think it paid around 200x, I wouldn’t chase it again.

 

[trancemonkey]

I have watched a few streamers play this. They all seem to be adamant that the swarm pays out at the bet size you are playing at the time. So they get it up up to max level at 20p bets and then raise stake to 2 quid or higher trying to get swarm.

Have seen some massive payouts on swarm and some terrible ones too.

They have to have some way of adjusting the feature / win based on bet size, otherwise you would just fill it on 20p and then play at £10 until it triggered.

 

[Oscar Arnhem]

They have to have some way of adjusting the feature / win based on bet size, otherwise you would just fill it on 20p and then play at £10 until it triggered.

Asked shirox1980 after his session yesterday, was tilting on 40€ bets on level 5,and after losing 17000€ he got the bonus on 20€ bets(7500€)

 

[Borgie]

Asked shirox1980 after his session yesterday, was tilting on 40€ bets on level 5,and after losing 17000€ he got the bonus on 20€ bets(7500€)

Oh my goodness

 

[Jono777]

That to me just isn't gambling, showing off or pure 100% out of control addiction!

Sorry, just my thoughts on this!

 

[steveh35]

I have reached level 5 and am taking it very slow did a few £6 spins from my wins on the battle weekend but will not be doing anymore attempts until I get a decent win no matter how long I have to wait.

 

[trancemonkey]

Asked shirox1980 after his session yesterday, was tilting on 40€ bets on level 5,and after losing 17000€ he got the bonus on 20€ bets(7500€)

Well clearly he's a millionaire and can afford it

 

[SpinUk]

The bandit did well at this - 20k win on £40

 

[goatwack]

I just wanna know if this game has cutscenes to replace actual gameplay. Otherwise forget it

 

[kazzi]

Stuck on lvl5 also for around 800spins so far cost a fortune, gonna stop chasing it just do few spins when the balance is for it, just way too few wins to justifice the deadspins kinda need the chest to even make even with lucky picks.

 

[EkJR]

Far easier to have serious addiction problems these days with these kind of games! I think I had a problem when I was playing Bar X about 20 years ago at the amusements, this is just a new level. Actively encourages spunking away substantial sums of money.

 

[Siohmy]

Far easier to have serious addiction problems these days with these kind of games! I think I had a problem when I was playing Bar X about 20 years ago at the amusements, this is just a new level. Actively encourages spunking away substantial sums of money.

You are not wrong. Very high volatility so you can often go through a lot of money for not much return, coupled with a clear enticement to carry on at higher than average stakes is a lethal concoction. Add in numerous streamers with their “look at me” 1000x plus wins and many out there will have no hope.

 

[nikantw]

It probably goes as far as to change the hitrate of the bonus and/or the RTP of the base game, when you get to the final level.

 

[kazzi]

I did get the swarm finally yeasterday been farming the feature on 6kr for ~95% of the collection did tons of 10kr spins after to trigger with without luck so yday i had a bit of luck and did like 50spins at 20kr and got the feature paid ~550x.

But its been atleast over 1000spins to trigger it, but happy atleast i got my money back + some in the end.

But dont think im gonna go for this anytime soon just to much RNG on getting the trigger after collecting 1000bee's or wtf u need

 

[KasinoKing]

I too finally triggered the Wild Swarm from Level 5 (on my 15th bee), after 1000's of spins, mostly @ £2...
And what did it give me? SHITE!!!

The Swarm feature just put 3 bees on reel 4. 1st spin added the 4th, and one on reel 5 - but I won NOTHING in the first 4 spins.
Final result below - a MASSIVE bet x23

KK

 

[Playford7]

Cannot see the fascination with this slot at all.
Yes you can build the hive on small stakes and then go mental to trigger it..
but clearly it can’t be +ev, it wouldn’t of been made that way, if there was a glitch with every streamer under the sun exploiting it then surerly it would be pulled by now.
I find the slot utterly mind numbing.

 

[thecon]

Played thousands of spins trying to trigger hive - never got it. Don't touch it now - a scam.

 

[snorky510238]

Played thousands of spins trying to trigger hive - never got it. Don't touch it now - a scam.

I don’t get involved with any game that you have to invest a lot of money on the pretence I might be lucky enough to get it back plus a bit. I am well aware of what’s likely to happen. These type of games shouldn’t be allowed IMO as they are sucking players in until they are totally committed to try and hit the big one.

 

[Borgie]

Played thousands of spins trying to trigger hive - never got it. Don't touch it now - a scam.

Are you sure you played 1000 of spins AFTER you got hive to max level, the most I've seen on streams is 265 bees after max level. They play 20p spins to max level then raise their stake to open hive.

 

[pinnit2014]

In my last few I was about 300 bees after I hit max. Next one was 20...one good, one crap

 

[Playford7]

Keep away. Isn’t a regular players slot with there own funds.
Only for the streamer using others.

 

[Greigssy]

For fuck sake this slot is crooked, how it passes an audit as random I'll never know, brown envelopes and Caribbean cruises maybe.

£150 loss on 0.20 to get to the max level on the beehive, so I'm thinking 1 or 2 more bees and its burst.
Nope instead it took another £40 loss and ten more bees to activate the free spin and it paid whopping 52xbet.

£190 to trigger a 52xbet win and never notably ahead at any point.
The beehive should trigger on the last bee collected for the hive, a hugely compensated slot that doesn't in fact compensate anywhere near the loss.

 

[Playford7]

For fuck sake this slot is crooked, how it passes an audit as random I'll never know, brown envelopes and Caribbean cruises maybe.

£150 loss on 0.20 to get to the max level on the beehive, so I'm thinking 1 or 2 more bees and its burst.
Nope instead it took another £40 loss and ten more bees to activate the free spin and it paid whopping 52xbet.

£190 to trigger a 52xbet win and never notably ahead at any point.
The beehive should trigger on the last bee collected for the hive, a hugely compensated slot that doesn't in fact compensate anywhere near the loss.

When you try to emulate a streamer whom plays with no risk financially to himself it'll always end badly trying to replicate such poor gambling practices

 

[Greigssy]

When you try to emulate a streamer whom plays with no risk financially to himself it'll always end badly trying to replicate such poor gambling practices

Mate, I'm one of those few people who have never watched a streamer in my life.
I don't get what the enjoyment is watching someone else playing, same can't be said for my son right enough he's happy watching people play Minecraft etc.

I just got passed the first few levels and thought I'd charge on and see what happens at the end.
Lesson learned and I wont go back near it even though it restarted back on level 4.

 

[greylady]

First time I played this, it threw a random bonus in after 10 spins and gave me £90 on a 20p bet - not been back since.

 

[Reelsoffun]

For fuck sake this slot is crooked, how it passes an audit as random I'll never know, brown envelopes and Caribbean cruises maybe.

£150 loss on 0.20 to get to the max level on the beehive, so I'm thinking 1 or 2 more bees and its burst.
Nope instead it took another £40 loss and ten more bees to activate the free spin and it paid whopping 52xbet.

£190 to trigger a 52xbet win and never notably ahead at any point.
The beehive should trigger on the last bee collected for the hive, a hugely compensated slot that doesn't in fact compensate anywhere near the loss.

Im guessing you didnt up your stake after maxing it then? That seems to be generally the only way to get a decent win from the hive, not that I play the evil game, but my mates do and have had some monsters by filling it up on 20p stake and switching to £2+ till the hive burst. IIRC the best my mate had was cost £140 to fill on 20p switched to £2 stake hive burst on 7th bee and paid just shy of £1200 ( think the exact amount was 596x )

Not that im suggesting in any way you try this method as others will confirm its a very dangerous slot, even more than Extra Chilli buys lol

 

[Reelsoffun]

Are you sure you played 1000 of spins AFTER you got hive to max level, the most I've seen on streams is 265 bees after max level. They play 20p spins to max level then raise their stake to open hive.

Could be right as spins and bees are not the same it can be in excess of 50 spins for a bee remember....

 

[lotusch]

Got it last week and played the whole thing through on €1.00 bets, had a few nice base game hits in between and level 4 & 5 were boosted by the purple chest.
Did cost me about €120.00 on the end but the swarm feature then paid 575.1x = €575.10.
Won't play it anymore though, too long to get to that swarm mode.

 

[DreamRJ]

There is nothing wild about this slot. It is pure evil. I call it Evil Swarm

I still do think and do play it to level 5 on min bet. Then I increase. I notice though as soon as you increase the bet it seems the bees then vanish from the reels completely and so do the chests................ Oh and the scatters for that manner. It then becomes Dead Swarm................

If only I could f*ckin swat the bastid bees..............

 

[steveh35]

I have been on max since September only play at a big stake when I win anything on videslots so that is why I am still on maximum 7 months later

 

[nabbz]

I need to vent a little.

Had a good session today. Withdrew and left 200 euro. Yada yada yada I ended up with a balance of 600 euro...

Okay. Hey. Maybe I'll give Wild Swarm a go again. It hasn't worked out great most of the time, but I'm having some good luck so why not just give it a shot? Right? No harm?

First off, just getting the damn thing maxed took HOURS. To be fair, one of the reasons was that I got the instant trigger in the pick me. Never got that before, and when I do it is of course two or three bees away from a maxed hive and at minimum stake. But no worries, it paid 50x and put my hive back at level 2. Perfect.

At this point it would be just silly to keep going, so that is of course what I did.

When I eventually reached the max level again I was actually 20 euro up on my starting balance. Amazing. So I raised my stake to 1 euro and dived in with no intention of stopping without triggering the swarm mode.

Bees were somewhat frequent for a while, and so were those supremely annoying teases where it looks like it's about to trigger and then doesn't. Hell, it even pretended to not be an irredeemable piece of shit by throwing in a couple of normal features that payed more than 20x.

It actually played something resembling okay for a while... but as bee number 25 dropped in to get my hopes up Wild Swarm suddenly remembered it was Wild Swarm and proceeded to rob me of 200 euro before bee 26 stumbled in to flip me off and then buzz off again.

Intentions to trigger the swarm mode be damned, I gave up when I was down to 100 euro. 64 bees had flown in to watch me suffer. Nothing. Just an endless parade of dead spins, crap features and chests that never payed more than 3x.

Went on to lose 90 euro more on Gold King. At least that one didn't need an entire evening to do so.

So. With 10 euro left I figured I'd throw them at Wild Swarm on the off chance I could salvage the session again. Went in with 4 cent spins expecting (and secretly hoping for) nothing.

Three spins I got my first bee. It triggered swarm mode.

120x.

You just can't make this up.

So there it is. 3447 spins and 500 euro lost to win less than 50.

It's a dirty, predatory garbage slot that's designed to make you raise your stakes to even have a slight chance of getting ahead, and even if you do you're lucky to break even. I've had a 8 or 9 swarm features at this point, and I've seen nothing that justifies how insanely hard this thing is to trigger.

tldr: Don't play this.

And just to end on a slightly more positive note, I turned the mind blowing swarm mode win into 200 euro on slots that suck less. Yay. Didn't even take me 3000 spins.