Why do microgaming suck compared to NetEnt?

[whodatrec]

Im sure its not just me, ive seen countless threads around the internet regarding Microgmaing slots. Why is it so incredibly hard to win? Ive deposited thousands of euros and i never ever cashed out anything.. I never even won anything remarkable.. Compare this to my results at NetEnt casinos its a HUGE difrence. Ofcourse ive lost money on NetEnt but i also cashed out tens of thousands of euros.

Now why is so? A few things ive noticed is its conciderably easier to hit Bonus/Free Spinn rounds on NetEnt casinos compared to Microgaming. Im also pretty sure the RTP % gotta be way higher on NetEnt casinos.

 

[akrus88]

RTP difference is not so big. I think netent slots run around 95-98. You can quite many slots, with rtp higher then 97%.
With microgaming rtp is around 95% with most of the slots. Correct me if Im wrong?

I think bonuses are as hard or as easy to hit with both of them.
Me myself have won more with MGS comparing to Netent.

Allthough I think netent games have much more variety and innovative ideas and features. Netent slots are allso much lower variance then micogaming.

 

[PNEFOREVER2]

Seems to be harder to win on MG of late. Had a few half decent back-to-back-to-back wins over Christmas, which was strange as I had never achieved back to back w/d's at the same MG casino, then ever since New Year its just been awful.


Not had 1 good session lasting at least a few hours in the past 3 months, same happened the year before last, had 1 good result at Christmas - only a couple of hundred pounds then the next 4-5 months was just cack.

 

[plasticnote]

I played quite a bit NetEnt and MG (daily).

MG gives bigger wins and more often than NetEnt.

I have not hit 1000x bet on NetEnt for many months during this period , I got 20 - 30 times 1000x on MG.

If you say small wins between 50 - 99 x bet, NetEnt slots gave out more often...

From screenshot section, you can find significantly more from MG than NetEnt.

Another thing I want to add but it is just my feeling:

Have any of you tried playing NetEnt using USD or AUD ? For me, the payout is much worse than I played in Euro...
Not sure why...

 

[xxshepxx]

I have noticed microgaming to be very very bad this past couple of months.

I cant seem to hit anything at all.

0 cashouts in 4 months is terrible, considering i was managing 4/5 cashouts per month

 

[mrmark21]

I've actually had the opposite experience recently. I'm doing better at Microgaming than Netent. Never thought I'd see the day Netent just wont give me any features. No matter what slot I'm on I can be sure to expect no features. Just went through 200 spins on Jack and the Bean Stalk without a single bonus round Yesterday I put about four hundred spins through those retro seventies games I've actually been playing some of the Microgaming slots that arent on the download client like Medusa and Land of Lemuria etc. While I'm not winning at MG at least I'm getting features So for me at the moment Microgaming has to be the better of the two.

I tend not to deposit as much when I'm having crappy play time.

 

[KasinoKing]

Just went through 200 spins on Jack and the Bean Stalk without a single bonus round

200 spins is relatively "nothing" on that slot - and most others for that matter. The majority of slots (MG and the higher variance NetEnt ones) tend to trigger the bonus between once in 150 - 180 spins, so 200 is not really giving it enough of a chance.
I once went over 1,000 spins without the feature on Jack!
But other times I have hit it 2 or 3 times in under 100 spins - you have to take the rough with the smooth...

@OP:
I think it's too hard to compare MG to NetEnt generally, you need to say which specific games you are playing.
For example, if you are only playing high variance games at MG, but low-medium games at NetEnt, then it would not be surprising that you have better play-time and more cash-outs at NetEnt.

KK

 

[ChopleyIOM]

MG's output over the last few years has tended towards higher and higher variance slots (TS2/IR/FR being pretty crazy high variance), which by design give vivid peaks and troughs.

Netent's output on the whole is far lower variance, and whilst they do have a handful of high variance slots on the books (DoA being the poster child), on the whole they're low-medium variance - and these are going to give you a far steadier ride than high variance slots.

The way to get a less jolty ride with MG is to play their older slots, the likes of Osbournes and Boogie Monsters, it's hard to give an exact date, but certainly the 243-way era pretty much marks them abandoning low variance slots IMO.

Personally I just binned off MG almost completely, I get far better playtime with other softwares and still cash out regularly, the WMS slots being my current favourite.

 

[dunover]

I have had 3 freespin rounds on JaTB in 17 spins, and the same on TSII.
The thing is I have noticed all MG slots seem to have the same undercurrent of bonus round frequency and win-spread, resulting in the almost clearly defined cycles of play deviating from the RTP line. Foil hat territory, but nevertheless a valid observation.
What makes it even more weird, is that lately I've being playing Netent, and it's almost as if the same MG programmers have been working for them. I feel like I'm playing MG under different skins.
I accept that this is more likely a result of commonalities that will occur on any slot software computed to pay 96% while providing bonus rounds and a fair spread of wins in the pool to maintain play and player interest than the different brands having the same underlying programmes, but I sense some posters like Chopley desire a variation from this.
WMS seem to offer a slight move away, which is welcome. But then we have the observations from myself, Chopley and latterly KK about the dodgy reels....

 

[mrmark21]

I have had 3 freespin rounds on JaTB in 17 spins, and the same on TSII.
The thing is I have noticed all MG slots seem to have the same undercurrent of bonus round frequency and win-spread, resulting in the almost clearly defined cycles of play deviating from the RTP line. Foil hat territory, but nevertheless a valid observation.
What makes it even more weird, is that lately I've being playing Netent, and it's almost as if the same MG programmers have been working for them. I feel like I'm playing MG under different skins.
I accept that this is more likely a result of commonalities that will occur on any slot software computed to pay 96% while providing bonus rounds and a fair spread of wins in the pool to maintain play and player interest than the different brands having the same underlying programmes, but I sense some posters like Chopley desire a variation from this.
WMS seem to offer a slight move away, which is welcome. But then we have the observations from myself, Chopley and latterly KK about the dodgy reels....

Couldn't agree with you more

 

[plasticnote]

I've actually had the opposite experience recently. I'm doing better at Microgaming than Netent. Never thought I'd see the day Netent just wont give me any features. No matter what slot I'm on I can be sure to expect no features. Just went through 200 spins on Jack and the Bean Stalk without a single bonus round Yesterday I put about four hundred spins through those retro seventies games I've actually been playing some of the Microgaming slots that arent on the download client like Medusa and Land of Lemuria etc. While I'm not winning at MG at least I'm getting features So for me at the moment Microgaming has to be the better of the two.

I tend not to deposit as much when I'm having crappy play time.

May I ask...

What currency you use when you are playing NetEnt slots?

thank you

 

[whodatrec]

I usually play in € or NOK, and i play these games: Gonzos Quest,Muse,Wild Turkey,Jack and...,DOA,Mythic Maiden,Thief pretty much all the "newer" games. I stay away from the old ones cuz they seam to be horrible.

 

[mrmark21]

200 spins is relatively "nothing" on that slot - and most others for that matter. The majority of slots (MG and the higher variance NetEnt ones) tend to trigger the bonus between once in 150 - 180 spins, so 200 is not really giving it enough of a chance.
I once went over 1,000 spins without the feature on Jack!
But other times I have hit it 2 or 3 times in under 100 spins - you have to take the rough with the smooth...

@OP:
I think it's too hard to compare MG to NetEnt generally, you need to say which specific games you are playing.
For example, if you are only playing high variance games at MG, but low-medium games at NetEnt, then it would not be surprising that you have better play-time and more cash-outs at NetEnt.

KK

I've been thinking about that Trying to weigh up the pros and cons of different softwares so to speak... Let's say I'm betting $1.00 a spin so for two hundred spins I'd need a $200 bankroll right? Now think $1 a spin on a $1000 bankroll Dosent that sound like an awful lot of money to spend without a single feature on a low-medium variance slot?

I'd be extremely happy with 3 bonus features in under 100 spins. However the reality is that dosent happen for me. I can't even score one bonus on ANY Netent slot within two hundred spins (bar maybe one or two).

I just get kinda bored constantly clicking the mouse over and over again... Waiting for the reels to do their thing and knowing I'm not going to see a bonus round. I feel like turning the Auto-Play on but then that would be a waste of money since I wouldn't even be playing.

I play low-medium variance slots for that reason because they tend to give more play time and generally the feature should come up more often. I may as well be playing on DOA.

 

[tinybettor]

Damn Microgaming has been brutal for me the past week or so. Its seems almost impossible to hit a bonus round, let alone one that pays anything decent. $600 bux gone in the past few days with bets less than $1. Could barely get past my initial balance. I know with gambling you can experience winning or losing streaks but it seems trying to get that one small withdrawal in a tsunami of deposits is almost akin to hitting the lottery. Has anyone had any experience in winning big multiple times, because it seems like I'm on massive losing streak that just wont stop, no matter what slot I play. I know big hits in succession is a rarity but it just kills you when you think hmm...will the next dozen deposits be as cold as this and lo and behold, twelve deposits later, your left thinking what on earth just happened!

 

[mrmark21]

Damn Microgaming has been brutal for me the past week or so. Its seems almost impossible to hit a bonus round, let alone one that pays anything decent. $600 bux gone in the past few days with bets less than $1. Could barely get past my initial balance. I know with gambling you can experience winning or losing streaks but it seems trying to get that one small withdrawal in a tsunami of deposits is almost akin to hitting the lottery. Has anyone had any experience in winning big multiple times, because it seems like I'm on massive losing streak that just wont stop, no matter what slot I play. I know big hits in succession is a rarity but it just kills you when you think hmm...will the next dozen deposits be as cold as this and lo and behold, twelve deposits later, your left thinking what on earth just happened!

You can't expect to win every time. The slots are there to make money. I wouldn't mind even getting a non-paying bonus however to go all these deposits and not see one or get a big win is kind of disheartening. I understand you completely and would say that you're experience on Microgaming is pretty much spot on with mine at Netent.

Have you tried WMS slots? They are fun and I've always been up at some point during my sessions on them. Also have you tried the Microgaming slots on Maxino? They have a better variety compared to the downloadable clients and the features seem to come up pretty regularly.

 

[SirWegs]

I played quite a bit NetEnt and MG (daily).

MG gives bigger wins and more often than NetEnt.

I have not hit 1000x bet on NetEnt for many months during this period , I got 20 - 30 times 1000x on MG.

If you say small wins between 50 - 99 x bet, NetEnt slots gave out more often...

From screenshot section, you can find significantly more from MG than NetEnt.

Another thing I want to add but it is just my feeling:

Have any of you tried playing NetEnt using USD or AUD ? For me, the payout is much worse than I played in Euro...
Not sure why...

I agree with you, seen the same pattern.

 

[kktmd]

...Now think $1 a spin on a $1000 bankroll Dosent that sound like an awful lot of money to spend without a single feature on a low-medium variance slot?

Unlikely....the chance of that happening should be less than 1 in 50 mio playing IR (which is a pretty high variance slot). Play 2 hours every day, and you should see this once every 140.000 years ;-)

 

[mrmark21]

Unlikely....the chance of that happening should be less than 1 in 50 mio playing IR (which is a pretty high variance slot). Play 2 hours every day, and you should see this once every 140.000 years ;-)

I'm saying 1000 spins. I've gone a kazillion over a span of different slots without a feature. I'm saying 1000 spins as an example because KK brought up his experience with the slot I'm just scratching my head trying to get a feature

 

[akrus88]

I'm saying 1000 spins. I've gone a kazillion over a span of different slots without a feature. I'm saying 1000 spins as an example because KK brought up his experience with the slot I'm just scratching my head trying to get a feature

I have gone trough 1000 spins on j&b without a feature .. 400+ quite often without feature.
Mrmark, going 1000 spins without bonus round, does not mean you would have to have bankroll of 1000xbet .

 

[whodatrec]

Yesterday i hit the feature twice in two spinns. Back 2 back on Wild turkey

 

[kktmd]

I'm saying 1000 spins. I've gone a kazillion over a span of different slots without a feature. I'm saying 1000 spins as an example because KK brought up his experience with the slot

ah, ok...that makes more sense Thats certainly doable on a bad day....my own record is about 1420, switching between IR and BDBA (I hit WildDesire several times, so it doesnt really count as featureless).