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Why Affiliates don't like 888.com (or other similar affy programs)

Discussion in 'Affiliate Issues' started by Casinomeister, Dec 15, 2015.

    Dec 15, 2015
  1. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Just found this in my in box. Not that I'm an affy of 888 - but the entire tone of this email is a total turnoff:

    The first thing that comes to mind is "what arrogance." They could have easily written this in a more business-like manner. Here it's like they are getting ready to sue your ass. What a bunch of posers.

    It's as if these guys were never schooled on how to speak to your so-called partners. Seriously, would you ever send a message like this to someone you work with?
     
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  2. Dec 15, 2015
  3. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    The reason I wont work with them is the difference in culture. Over here in Europe the emphasis is much more on building and nurturing the relationship which gives me more confidence, while in some parts of the world, it is more about the business. Nothing wrong with either, it's just a matter of which way of working you prefer. As an example, this came in moments ago:

    No messing around with niceties: the message is quite clear which is good in a way as it tells me straight away it's not for me. I also recently tried to work with Ladbrokes on a modest media buy and it was a horrible experience for someone like me but for others with a different approach to me, it probably works very well. Horses for courses if you'll forgive the pun.
     
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  4. Dec 15, 2015
  5. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    The OP is simply bullying, an unbelievable arrogance that comes from a group that clearly think that as they are the 'Big Boys' they can impose agreements on a 'like it or lump it' basis. It almost says "Are you up to it, can you handle us?" They seem to forget that their presence now is party due to all the little people who promoted them previously.
     
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  6. Dec 15, 2015
  7. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    This one brought a smile to my face. 888 are infamous for refusing to make it clear in their terms what constitutes a "sister site" when it comes to free bets and bonuses, and even when players have the sense to ask first, they still often end up being lead into a trap by the CS agents.

    Does this mean that from the 15th December 888 are also going to be abiding by the UK laws and clearly list all important restrictions "in the ad itself" and provide a full list of sister sites in the terms.

    It would be interesting to know what our ASA thinks of their "fully compliant" landing pages and terms for UK customers, especially at the more secretive sister sites.

    I am still puzzled as to how any of this is relevant to someone who is NOT one of their affiliates, are you using "prohibited marketing materials" in the rogue pit:D
     
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  8. Dec 15, 2015
  9. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    My guess is that it will apply to their 888 UK sites. Just like the slew of Playtech casinos that do not pay progressive winnings in full, go to the UK counterpart and this rogue term is absent from their T&Cs.
     
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  10. Dec 15, 2015
  11. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

    Occupation:
    The PAB Guy
    Location:
    Saltirelandia
    If it was me I'd word that a little more bluntly: "... in some parts of the world it is more about 'How much money can you make for me?'" If you ain't filling their bank account you are dead to them. "Oh, and please f*** off so the next sucker can step up and beg for their chance to make us richer."
     
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  12. Dec 17, 2015
  13. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Ah yes, it's a pleasure doing business with ya.

    Why not just send a subpoena? :rolleyes:
     
  14. Dec 28, 2015
  15. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Webmaster
    Location:
    Block S25, South Stand, Ashton Gate, BS3
    Ah yes 888. I've worked with them in the past, but it was a media buy deal and I worded the IO so they wouldn't hassle me 24/7 during the period of the media buy.
     

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