Need your input: Which Game Providers are on the Decline?

[Webzcas]

Ok this is a pretty subjective topic, but I am sure there will also be in the main consensus on some of the answers provided. So, in your opinion which game providers are on the decline?

Whether it’s stale game design ( and innovation ), poor RTPs, or just losing their edge, some names aren’t quite what they used to be. Curious to hear your takes.

 

[satchnz]

ELK, Thunderkick, and 4ThePlayer for poor maximum RTP offerings (all new releases max out at 94%) . I mean a provider called "4ThePlayer" with substandard RTPs...

Play'N Go - I've never been a fan of their constant micro wins and poor bonus performance.

BTG - Their styling is very stale now as are their mechanics.

Pragmatic Play - Their slots have just become increasingly volatile to the point where I just don't enjoy playing them anymore. Add to the fact that they regularly release new slots with buy only super bonuses and that puts the icing on the cake...

I am pretty sure that Hacksaw and their under studios are going to get a mention in this thread but they are the only providers that give be regular decent wins now.

 

[Webzcas]

Talking of Hacksaw Gaming, they are looking to float in Sweden.

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[satchnz]

Yeah I had heard about Hacksaw's intention to list.

 

[YouTubeSlots]

Most Providers, Net Ent, Microgaming, being 2 of the worst declines in slot developing history.

 

[L&L-Jan]

Red Tiger

 

[johnnymcc1966]

BTG and Play N Go spring immediately to mind. Play N Go's reduced RTPs make most of their games impossible to play.

 

[Webzcas]

Microgaming

Yeah the problem with Microgaming / Games Global is that they really did set the bar high in the early 2000's. Some of their oldies are still enjoyed just as much today as they were back in the day.

 

[conker]

Agree with Red Tiger and BTG.

NetEnt for me is the one. They had it all circa 2012, with a stream of exciting releases and eye-catching licensing deals. We had a recent thread on some of members' favourite NetEnt slots.

I couldn't name a single game they have released in the last year or so. The Evolution take over, the affiliate links all over the website, it was like Ferrari turning into Dacia over the course of 10 years.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Every provider that started using 6 coins or 3 pots to start the bonus.

 

[L&L-Jan]

@Webzcas you should also start a topic about rising stars, so members know what to play

 

[conker]

@Webzcas you should also start a topic about rising stars, so members know what to play

One of the mods can do that soon.

 

[SYPlayer95]

All of them, the casinos dont help either running on low RTP.

 

[L&L-Jan]

help either running on low RTP.

reword that please otherwise I post your results from ABC

 

[Webzcas]

Jan vying with Elon Musk and Donald Trump in winning the internet for today

 

[mulven]

reword that please otherwise I post your results from ABC

Also post the stuff you saw in the background of his ID Selfie. Shameful possessions!

 

[SYPlayer95]

Also post the stuff you saw in the background of his ID Selfie. Shameful possessions!

Don't do that. Face for crimewatch.

 

[satchnz]

Red Tiger

Yes, good call.

 

[Nate]

Most of them have completely run out of ideas. I stick to classics to be honest. The reskinning of games with the same mechanics are shameful.

Look at the past games from Netent and MG and there is an unlimited catalogue of games with 9, 20, 25, 30 or 50 lines with unique mechanics.

Pragmatic Play for me is on the decline with their super bonus buys. You have to give it to them though, they know how to add a gimmick to their games.

Slots advertised as having 25 000x win, which you need to pay 5x more for a feature... Still works out to 5000x eh?

Coupled with the fact that the variance is crazy and not even on par with what the max win is. I mean think of it, max win on a feature buy is something like 50x Only.

I often ask myself, should I play roulette instead? A straight up pays 35 to 1 and that's not far off what Pragmatic Play claims to be a 'MAXIMUM WIN' on their slots...

Nate

 

[slotmaster]

Every provider that started using 6 coins or 3 pots to start the bonus.

Ya it is like every slot now, online and land based. I am o.k. with 3 pots for the few but it is getting too much now, always hated the 6 coin ones.

 

[Nate]

BTG and Play N Go spring immediately to mind. Play N Go's reduced RTPs make most of their games impossible to play.

Play n Go's CEO bragged about how they do the right thing by not adding feature buys to their slots.

Well... back at the ranch these muckers are supplying 81% RTP versions of their slots to whoever wants them... Bullshitters..

Nate

 

[ritae]

Big Time Gaming haven't brought out a decent game in years. You would always find their titles on the front page of casinos as popular slots, now they are buried deep down the list.

Selling out to Evolution put an end to the innovation.

 

[Webzcas]

Selling out to Evolution put an end to the innovation.

Seems to be a theme happening here...

 

[dunover]

IGT (used to be really good)
WMS (now Light&Wonder Why) nothing good any more.
Netent (we all know how they turned)
Games Global (ruined MG classics and most sub-developer output is awful)
Play'N Go (Not produced any good games in years)
Yggdrasil (same as above)
Playtech (what happened to them?)
Novomatic (too many low-pay boring ones nowadays)

 

[L&L-Jan]

WMS (now Light&Wonder Why) nothing good any more.

Huff n Puff is performing really strong to be fair.

 

[Ginogenelli]

Blueprint. What the hell has happened over there? I used to look forward to their games. Not huge payers but good fun. The likes of duckula, beavis and butthead, goonies etc.

Now they seem to churn out the same gold blitz clones.

 

[paul02085]

Most Providers, Net Ent, Microgaming, being 2 of the worst declines in slot developing history.

I used to love MG slots back in the day. Time flies.

 

[09237653]

allowing reduced RTPs kills nearly any provider for me have not played any new BTG release since they did that and im not gonna go out of my way searching for them at max RTP I just wont bother.

playngo have many classics but they seem to be on a lazy one at the moment just cloning tome of madness and tome of insanity over and over, still my number 1 provider but make some new stuff, stop cloning.

 

[lockinlove]

It has to be BTG. Their games are total garbage and never pay big compared to others.

 

[slotmaster]

Huff n Puff is performing really strong to be fair.

Yup they are wildy popular here and a few of them got released online here in Ontario. I can never win on them yet.

 

[dunover]

We should perhaps rephrase the question to: "What game providers aren't in decline?"

 

[YouTubeSlots]

We should perhaps rephrase the question to: "What game providers aren't in decline?"

True as most providers have fell off, I really cant think of any provider that has got better rather then decline.

 

[CryptoG82]

Play N Go - was by far my favourite for years with games like Reactoonz, Book of Dead and Moon Princess but appears they have done nothing even remotely good for years

 

[Reelsoffun]

In answer to the thread title,

pretty much all of them, the end.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Which slot was actually the one that introduced the hold & spin function online? Wolf Gold from Pragmatic comes to mind as one of the early adopters.

 

[Lucky Loser]

I'm boycotting all the providers that set their slots at less than 95%. I try to stick to 96%+.

Gone are Play N Go and Yggdrasil for me.

My favourite casino King Billy have nerfed Playtech slots from 96% to 94% recently too so they are gone. This just really sucks.

 

[X-Raided]

Red Tiger

YES! Red Tiger has never been a favorite of mine at all. The only game they released that I'll come back to play, every once in a blue moon, is Piggy Riches Megaways. The newest Piggy Riches 2 is absolute garbage.

 

[X-Raided]

Ok this is a pretty subjective topic, but I am sure there will also be in the main consensus on some of the answers provided. So, in your opinion which game providers are on the decline?

Whether it’s stale game design ( and innovation ), poor RTPs, or just losing their edge, some names aren’t quite what they used to be. Curious to hear your takes.

The Games Global/Microgaming games being pushed out...quantity over quality. They release so many games monthly, yet none of the releases have me coming back for more. In fact, I just ignore any Games Global releases like they didn't exist when choosing what slot to play.

Elk Studios is another. I used to LOVE Elk, especially their Nitropolis products... specifically Nitropolis 3. But I can't take them seriously any longer, due to their games being so tight and piss poor paying. It would take ages to land a bonus and then usually end up paying 3X to 10X stake. So scripted too.

BTG used to be one of my all time favorites.. that was before they got acquired by Evolution. Their new slots are simply unbearable to play.

Red Tiger. Nothing more to add to it.

 

[spindoctor99]

Playngo is by far the worst provider. I have never known a slot provider to have more deadspins than Playngo. The features are fucken impossible to get and when you get them they are very hit and miss.

Whoever designed these scrub slots needs to get their head read. WHY do they think its acceptable for a slot to constantly give these dogshit micro wins which equate to 8% of the bet size. I checked the statistics for more than 32,000 spins on Playngo slots. 83% were dead spins.

I use to be a fan 10 years ago, if you play them now its guaranteed to be a losing session.

 

[spindoctor99]

Play N Go - was by far my favourite for years with games like Reactoonz, Book of Dead and Moon Princess but appears they have done nothing even remotely good for years

Moon Princess was a favourite of mine years ago. The bonus was difficult to get but would generally pay. Its still impossible to get now but on the off chance you get it, your lucky to win 20x.

 

[Mouche12]

All of them, the casinos dont help either running on low RTP.

I know what you mean, it's the game providers that set the RTP but the casinos choose which version they use. As gambling taxes have gone up in the Netherlands, most casinos have now started offering slots with lower RTPs...

 

[sufferinsilence]

I know what you mean, it's the game providers that set the RTP but the casinos choose which version they use. As gambling taxes have gone up in the Netherlands, most casinos have now started offering slots with lower RTPs...

Same in Belgium. Regulations are tighter, less visibility through ads,.. so RTP goes down to compensate.